merci merci infiniment
Traversée Gênes-Tunisie pour la première fois
by Sami2012
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour a toutes et tous
je vis en suisse et je viens de réserver un billet aller-retour Genes-Tunis avec le GNV, pour le mois d'octobre .1 bebe + 1 enfant + papa et maman
- Pensez vous que cette période le bateau et vide. pour sortir du la Gaulette ?
- J'ai une voiture Renault Megane si je met un toit pour mettre les valises est-ce-que il y a un sur tax au débarquement?
- les repas sont chères ? et quelle sont les pris?
- Mon permis de conduire est expire, est-ce-que les douanier demande de présenter le permis de conduire ? ou seulement
- Comment faire pour les paperasses de la voiture ?est-ce-que sur le bateau ou une fois arrive a la gaulette?
les passeports avec les billets
merci merci infiniment
merci merci infiniment
Bonjour
- Pensez vous que cette période le bateau et vide. pour sortir du la Gaulette ?
ça dépend, au mois d'octobre tu as l'Aïd El Kebir, c'est le 3
- J'ai une voiture Renault Megane si je met un toit pour mettre les valises est-ce-que il y a un sur tax au débarquement?
il y a une hauteur à respecter, sinon taxe ; de toute façon avant d'embarquer les agents mesurent la hauteur
- les repas sont chères ? et quelle sont les pris?
assez, un moyen : emmener une glacière
- Mon permis de conduire est expire, est-ce-que les douanier demande de présenter le permis de conduire ? ou seulement les passeports avec les billets
là ça va pas le faire : pour avoir ton permis de circuler sur sol Tunisien il faut présenter son permis de conduire et les papiers de la voiture,
- Comment faire pour les paperasses de la voiture ?est-ce-que sur le bateau ou une fois arrive a la gaulette?
voici un lien où nous avons déjà parlé du sujet : http://voyageforum.com/discussion/partir-tunisie-en-bateau-ferry-depuis-genes-ete-2014-d6355863/
- Pensez vous que cette période le bateau et vide. pour sortir du la Gaulette ?
ça dépend, au mois d'octobre tu as l'Aïd El Kebir, c'est le 3
- J'ai une voiture Renault Megane si je met un toit pour mettre les valises est-ce-que il y a un sur tax au débarquement?
il y a une hauteur à respecter, sinon taxe ; de toute façon avant d'embarquer les agents mesurent la hauteur
- les repas sont chères ? et quelle sont les pris?
assez, un moyen : emmener une glacière
- Mon permis de conduire est expire, est-ce-que les douanier demande de présenter le permis de conduire ? ou seulement les passeports avec les billets
là ça va pas le faire : pour avoir ton permis de circuler sur sol Tunisien il faut présenter son permis de conduire et les papiers de la voiture,
- Comment faire pour les paperasses de la voiture ?est-ce-que sur le bateau ou une fois arrive a la gaulette?
voici un lien où nous avons déjà parlé du sujet : http://voyageforum.com/discussion/partir-tunisie-en-bateau-ferry-depuis-genes-ete-2014-d6355863/
kol wahed shitana fi jibou
;-)
Je ne sais pas ce que tu as comme permis de conduire... Mon permis suisse, format carte de crédit, ne comporte aucune date d'échéance, seule la date d'émission y figure...
Mathilde
J'ai un permis provesoire de deux ans , mais je viens de voire qu'il est expire depuis le 13/07/2013.accident et retrait pendant 6 mois, je pouvais pas passe le cours de deux phases, et a l'instant même je viens d'appeler le service de navigation, il m'ont dit il faut tout recommences, cour examens blabalab bala....
Et tu conduis quand même ? 😮
Mets ta femme au volant depuis la Suisse, et pour le bateau, et pour la Tunisie... sinon, en cas d'accident, ça va très mal finir cette affaire !
Mets ta femme au volant depuis la Suisse, et pour le bateau, et pour la Tunisie... sinon, en cas d'accident, ça va très mal finir cette affaire !
Mathilde
nn comme je l'ai dis a cause de mon accident de route je pouvais pas conduire, mai mnt sa fait un mois qui je repris le volant sans savoir que mon permis est expire, et quand j'ai prépare mes papier pour le voyage vérifier passeport, permis conduire, séjour etc etc alors surprise :passeport expire (demain je dois aller a bern pour faire une demande), permis de séjour expirera su milieu de vacances (je dois faire demande de visa de retour) et permis de conduire ...
il reste que moi que je ne suis pas expire ,
il reste que moi que je ne suis pas expire ,
Rassure-moi là, la voiture, elle bien assurée au moins ? 😛
Parce qu'on s'approche d'un sketch de Fernand Raynaud... 😉
Parce qu'on s'approche d'un sketch de Fernand Raynaud... 😉
Mathilde
😉bonjour , alors votre histoire est compliquéé😊 , pour le permis je confirme il faut le présenter sur le bateau pour les papiers ...pour les repas au self c, est bon marché , je ne sais pas combien exactement , car nous allons au resto a la carte , ,
pour les passeports et les billets c, est en entrant sur le port , ,le mieux après c, est de suivre les autres et demander aux gens , ,, on traverse depuis plus de 20 ans et quelques fois ça change , ,mais pas de souci ...bon voyage , ,😎
Bonsoir Naalta, Mammy48 et Sami,
"pour le permis je confirme il faut le présenter sur le bateau pour les papiers ..."
C'est absolument faux, on ne présente que la carte grise du véhicule. Ni permis, ni assurance.
Il est quand même indispensable que sur la route, la personne qui conduit puisse présenter un permis à jour... Il faudra également un passeport sur lequel sera noté le n° d'immatriculation du véhicule lors du passage à la douane.
Même si à Gènes, la hauteur du véhicule est moins surveillée qu'à Marseille, elle ne doit pas dépasser 1,80 m. Cet été, à Gènes, les employés dans le port surveillaient la hauteur des véhicules.
Sur les bateaux de la GNV, tu manges très bien au self pour 15 à 20 euros/personne. Mais tu peux aussi prendre de quoi pique-niquer. A Gènes, dans le port, c'est super pratique, il y a un grand magasin pour faire les courses de dernière minute.
Pour les papiers de débarquement, tu peux commencer les formalités à bord ou faire tout une fois arrivé à La Goulette.
Bon voyage.
La terre entière est ma patrie et la famille humaine est ma tribu.
BONJOUR oui pour le permis on ne le demande pas , ,j, ai fais une erreur , mais en tunisie lors des controles la police le demande , ,ce printemps nous avons passé des barrages vers la GOULETTE puis a SOUSSE la vous devez présenter le permis et le papier qui remplace votre carte grise valable 3 mois .alors le mieux c, est que madame se mette au volant ...
-- Bonne nouvelle aujourd’hui j' été a l'ambassade tunisienne Bern et j'ai eu mon passeport en 1Heure 30 min 😉...
-- Mauvaise nouvelle le numéro de passeport a changer , j'ai appelle l'agence pour modifier le numéro sur la réservation
est sa coute 50 Euro.
-- Pour le permis comme j'ai eu un accident pendant la période d'essai et je pouvais pas conduire , il m'ont demander d’écrire une lettre pour restituer mon permis a l'essai .....
-- pour renouveler mon permis séjour , comme c'est mon année de libération c-a-d je vais passer de permis B a permis C , et l'obtention prend entre 2 et 4 semaines, j'ai déjà déposer le dossier et inchallah je l'aurai avant mon départ sin non même avec une VISA retour sa change rien pour moi.
-- Une question les amis...j'ai entendu dire que a la Gaulette ils vident la voiture complètement ..Est-ce-que il fouille tous les baguages, les valise? est-ce-qui ls respectent les affaires pendant la fouille?
est-ce-que il ya des choses spéciaux qu'ont doit pas ramener ???
merci
-- J'ai deux enfant 4 ans et 2 ans est-ce-qu'il prennent en considération pour accéléré les démarches?
Bonsoir Sami,
Lorsqu'il m'est arrivé de changer de voiture avant le voyage, je n'avais pas procédé au changement d'immatriculation sur le billet et ça n'avait pas posé de problème. Peut-on faire pareil pour le passeport ?
Pour le débarquement à la goulette, c'est la roulette russe : tu es embêté ou tu ne l'es pas. Tu fais une déclaration papier sur l'honneur et tu attends qu'ils viennent voir. Dans la file où nous étions, nous ouvrions le coffre et les portières et défaisions 2 ou 3 trucs mais dans la file à côté, ils devaient tout vider...En fait c'est toi qui vide et le douanier qui regarde.
Dans les trucs à ne pas ramener : les TV de plus de 82 cm, les feux d'artifice et explosifs de toute sorte, les armes, les scooters sans papier ou de plus de x cm3, les moteurs de bateau... Si ton chargement n'est pas exagéré, pas trop de problème, ils font vider les véhicules qui sont manifestement trop chargés. Il vaut mieux tout noter sur ta déclaration plutôt que prendre le risque qu'ils trouvent quelque chose que tu aurais voulu passer discrètement. Si tu es tunisien, tu as droit de ramener du matériel pour lequel tu ne paies pas les frais de douane.
Enfants ou pas enfants, personnes âgées, ça ne change rien...
Puisque tu ne seras pas en pleine saison, tu peux espérer qu'il n'y aura pas trop de monde et que ce sera rapide.
Bon voyage
La terre entière est ma patrie et la famille humaine est ma tribu.
BONJOUR ah la douane ....armez vous de patience , comme on vous l, a déjà dit c, est la loterie ..je n, ai encore jamais compris leur système , ,nous ça va car nous sommes des touristes , mais les douaniers ce printemps nous ont demandé de la bière , ,n, importe quoi , pour finir il m, a demandé quelques euros , c, est la première fois en plus de 20 traverséés que je leur donne des euros ..mais on avait la route jusqu a SOUSSE et c, était tard alors j, ai cédé ...courage ...
vous n'avez pas besoin de présenter votre permis, il n y a que la carte grise de la voiture qui est indispensable. (même pas l'assurance).
les repas sont pas chères du tout en Tunisie, 10 Euro par personne (Maximum), sinon pour votre hébergement en Tunisie je vous conseil vivement un hôtel au centre ville de Tunis, c'est vraiment moins cher dans le centre, en plus c'est tout près du port de la goulette
Bonjour Sami,
Juste une remarque que tu ne trouveras pas constructive.😇
Alors que les autres intervenants parlent de La Goulette, cela fait deux messages dans lesquels tu parles de "La Gaulette".
Il me semble que ce lieudit n'est pas en Tunisie.
A moins qu'il ne s'agisse de l'endroit où on se fait gauler sans papiers, ni permis, ni assurance...🙂
Oui ce vrai , Quand j'ai écris la gOulette , l'ordi me demande de corriger l’orthographe et sans faire attention je l'ai modifie en gAulette . je ne suis pas dyslexique comme disent tout les mondes quand ils ont une faute d'orthographe
mais je t'assure je parle bien de port la Goulette (halque el wad). je ne suis pas fort en orthographe je admets, et si avec quelques mot il'y a pas des accents c’est parceque j'ai un clavier QERTY (amercian) de coup...
-- c'est quoi cette assurance dont tous les monde parle??j'ai une assurance normal en suisse sa me suffit pas?
-- Encore une dernières questions les amis est-ce-qu'il ya un petit espace de jeux pour les petits enfants???
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A lot of people find it important to stick to their budget when traveling—not to skimp, but to visit as many places as possible since traveling is their hobby.
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Hi,
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Hi there,
Can anyone tell me if it's possible to travel from the Dades Gorges (Msemrir) to the Todra Gorges (Tamtatouche) on a paved road? Thanks in advance for any answers.
Hello,
We’d like to hire a French-speaking guide (agency, professional, or volunteer) to show us around Cairo over three days.
Trip planned for November 22, 23, and 24, 2026—four veteran French travelers.
We’re open to any leads, contact info, or suggestions.
Best regards,
Jacques
Hi there,
I have a layover in Algeria.
I won’t be leaving the airport.
The two tickets aren’t with the same airline.
Do I need a transit visa?
Thanks for any details and your help!
Hi there,
I live in Casablanca and my parents, who are 80, will be joining me in Marrakech at the beginning of May for a few days.
We’ll be renting a car to get around.
Do you have any suggestions for things to see or visit within a 2-3 hour drive max from Marrakech that aren’t too touristy?
My parents can walk a bit, but at 80, no climbing Mount Toubkal!
Thanks so much in advance for your ideas!
Hi everyone, just back from the 8-day Marrakech-Merzouga loop by car, and I’d love to share my feedback in case it helps some of you. Big thanks to all the forum members who kindly answered my questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Hi there,
I’m traveling solo to Egypt. Could you give me a rough idea of the budget for:
meals
hotels
taxis including tips
visits...
Just an estimate, of course.
For 15 days, what would the price range be, considering there’s an overnight train and a Nile cruise?
I’d like to compare with a travel agency. Is it more worthwhile to go through an agency despite the downsides of group travel?
Otherwise, if a travel buddy is interested in this country, why not?
Thanks a lot!





