Merci d'avance
Traversée par bateau Marseille - Oran
by Slimaned
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour c'est la premiere fois que je vais prendre le bateau par Marseille et je voudrait connaitre vos avis sur la traversée , si les bateaux sont bien , si il n'y a pas souvent de retard . Normalement je devrait prendre le Bateau " Ariadne " .
Merci d'avance
Merci d'avance
Salut,
Un bon conseil évite le port de Marseille , la SNCM et Algeries ferries sont chéres et de plus la douche n'est pas dans la cabine. Le service est meilleur par l’Italie mais tu passes par la tunisie (tu gagne beaucoup de temps au port, tu sors en 1h contrairement au ports en Algérie où il faut minimum 5 h)
L'année dernière, j'ai fait un GENES-TUNIS avec 2 adultes, 1 enfant et 1 bebe avec une voiture pour un prix de 850 eur avec cabine privatif (douche+wc) avec la CTN
C t magnifique, le voyage c super bien passé, pour la route, LILLE - GENES via la SUISSE et hop on évite les péages français et bien sur les tarifs exorbitants de la SNCM et ALGERIES FERRIES.
Cette année, je part sans la famille, je fais un SALERNO-TUNIS et pour le prix.... 175 eur (car voiture gratos pour le mois de septembre) un adulte et une voiture.
Je conseille à toute le monde d'éviter le port de Marseille pour éviter le monopole. Pour beacoup moins chers, vous pouvez partir de GENES, ROME ou SALERNO (NAPLES).
Pour voyage à tous !
Un bon conseil évite le port de Marseille , la SNCM et Algeries ferries sont chéres et de plus la douche n'est pas dans la cabine. Le service est meilleur par l’Italie mais tu passes par la tunisie (tu gagne beaucoup de temps au port, tu sors en 1h contrairement au ports en Algérie où il faut minimum 5 h)
L'année dernière, j'ai fait un GENES-TUNIS avec 2 adultes, 1 enfant et 1 bebe avec une voiture pour un prix de 850 eur avec cabine privatif (douche+wc) avec la CTN
C t magnifique, le voyage c super bien passé, pour la route, LILLE - GENES via la SUISSE et hop on évite les péages français et bien sur les tarifs exorbitants de la SNCM et ALGERIES FERRIES.
Cette année, je part sans la famille, je fais un SALERNO-TUNIS et pour le prix.... 175 eur (car voiture gratos pour le mois de septembre) un adulte et une voiture.
Je conseille à toute le monde d'éviter le port de Marseille pour éviter le monopole. Pour beacoup moins chers, vous pouvez partir de GENES, ROME ou SALERNO (NAPLES).
Pour voyage à tous !
Bonjour
Les navires d'Algérie Ferries sont sales, mal entretenus ! Les pannes sont nombreuses... et arriver dans un port algérien c'est la galère ! Il vaut mieux passer par la Tunisie !
LILI
Les navires d'Algérie Ferries sont sales, mal entretenus ! Les pannes sont nombreuses... et arriver dans un port algérien c'est la galère ! Il vaut mieux passer par la Tunisie !
LILI
Il n'y a personne qui soit née sous une mauvaise étoile, il n'y a que des gens qui ne savent pas lire le ciel. (Dalaï Lama)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
Salut et bienvenu !🙂🙂🙂
Alors je vais tout te raconter : Moi personnellement, je l'ai déjà pris 3 fois ce navire et crois moi, je suis déçu !! 😕😕😕 Alors déjà, il devait partir à 13h - je suis arrivé au port, "zen" bien à l'avance vers 8h30 - j'ai attendu , attendu, attendu , des heures et des heures !!! un peu comme lui et voilà ce qui c'est passé : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YngL4QP7rxQ
Bref vu que j'étais vers les premiers, on a embarqué vers 17 h ( on a passé tout un après-midi dans un chaleur incroyable !!)



Le départ à 21 h au couché du soleil !! Et à l'arrivé ils nous ont fait attendre dans le garage une demi heure dans une chaleur d'au moins 33 °C

Et après un queue interminable au port d'oran , nous sommes sortis à 22h (il faisait nuit 😐😐😐 ) après 4 heures d'attentes !!! :O
Bref mais on peur dire que Ariadne était un peu luxieux malgrés qu'il n'y avait pas beaucoup de douche mais par contre en Algerie comme en France, le port est TRES MAL ORGANISE !!!
Mais bon voyage quand meme !! :D
Alors je vais tout te raconter : Moi personnellement, je l'ai déjà pris 3 fois ce navire et crois moi, je suis déçu !! 😕😕😕 Alors déjà, il devait partir à 13h - je suis arrivé au port, "zen" bien à l'avance vers 8h30 - j'ai attendu , attendu, attendu , des heures et des heures !!! un peu comme lui et voilà ce qui c'est passé : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YngL4QP7rxQ
Bref vu que j'étais vers les premiers, on a embarqué vers 17 h ( on a passé tout un après-midi dans un chaleur incroyable !!)




Le départ à 21 h au couché du soleil !! Et à l'arrivé ils nous ont fait attendre dans le garage une demi heure dans une chaleur d'au moins 33 °C

Et après un queue interminable au port d'oran , nous sommes sortis à 22h (il faisait nuit 😐😐😐 ) après 4 heures d'attentes !!! :O
Bref mais on peur dire que Ariadne était un peu luxieux malgrés qu'il n'y avait pas beaucoup de douche mais par contre en Algerie comme en France, le port est TRES MAL ORGANISE !!!
Mais bon voyage quand meme !! :D
bonjour, je suis de lille et j aimerais avoir plus de renseignement concernant cette route et traversé que vous avez faite .je voudrais avoir le nombre de km de lille a genes et le cout du bateau en aout pour voir s il y a une grosse difference merci d avance.
Salut Nassima,
J'ai réalisé plusieurs traversées Gênes - Tunis et une fois Salerno (Naples)- Tunis.
J'habite du côté de Batna (Aures), c'est pour cela que je passe par la Tunisie. Temps de route même chose que si j'arrive par un port d'Algérie (Alger, Annaba, Bejaia), mais moins de tracasserie au niveau de la douane... (temps d'attente sous le soleil à griller pour te faire craqué !)
Concernant la route à partir de Lille 100 % Autoroute : Autoroute de Lille direction Belgique, Luxembourg, Est de la France, Suisse et Italie (vers Gênes).
Temps de route idem qu'un trajet Lille-Marseille mais avantage tu gagnes en coût de péage.
Il te faut acheté une vignette suisse valable un an pour circuler sur l'autoroute et en Italie il y a deux petits péages.
Concernant les bateaux, il y a 3 compagnies CTN (nos amis tunisiens, très belle compagnie et bateaux récents), Grandi Navi Veloci et enfin Grimaldi Lines (Plus petites compagnies et moins de fréquence).
Pour te faire une idée des tarifs, je te conseille aferry pour comparer les compagnies. Tu peux économiser 20 à 30 % par rapport à Marseille.
Les réservations pour la CTN ne sont pas ouvertes, elles seront annoncées en même temps que la sncm (car ils sont sur le même système de réservation). Attention de voir pour comparer.
Si tu vas du côté de l'ouest de l'Algérie (Oran, Tlemcem), il y a aussi des bateaux qui partent de l'Espagne.
Slts
J'ai réalisé plusieurs traversées Gênes - Tunis et une fois Salerno (Naples)- Tunis.
J'habite du côté de Batna (Aures), c'est pour cela que je passe par la Tunisie. Temps de route même chose que si j'arrive par un port d'Algérie (Alger, Annaba, Bejaia), mais moins de tracasserie au niveau de la douane... (temps d'attente sous le soleil à griller pour te faire craqué !)
Concernant la route à partir de Lille 100 % Autoroute : Autoroute de Lille direction Belgique, Luxembourg, Est de la France, Suisse et Italie (vers Gênes).
Temps de route idem qu'un trajet Lille-Marseille mais avantage tu gagnes en coût de péage.
Il te faut acheté une vignette suisse valable un an pour circuler sur l'autoroute et en Italie il y a deux petits péages.
Concernant les bateaux, il y a 3 compagnies CTN (nos amis tunisiens, très belle compagnie et bateaux récents), Grandi Navi Veloci et enfin Grimaldi Lines (Plus petites compagnies et moins de fréquence).
Pour te faire une idée des tarifs, je te conseille aferry pour comparer les compagnies. Tu peux économiser 20 à 30 % par rapport à Marseille.
Les réservations pour la CTN ne sont pas ouvertes, elles seront annoncées en même temps que la sncm (car ils sont sur le même système de réservation). Attention de voir pour comparer.
Si tu vas du côté de l'ouest de l'Algérie (Oran, Tlemcem), il y a aussi des bateaux qui partent de l'Espagne.
Slts
bonsoir Chaouis (weld a bladi 😉) merci pour tous ces renseignements car nous aussi nous passons chaque année par
la Tunisie via Marseille et je me suis toujours demandé si par l'Italie ça ne serait pas mieux et peut être moins onéreux pour ma petite famille vu que nous partons de Paris. Donc je pense bien y réfléchir inchallah pour cette année vu vos commentaires. Merci encore
bonjour, tout d abord merci d avoir pris le temps de me repondre , comme nous allons du coté de oran maghnia je me suis penché sur une traversé alméria ghazaouet qui me semble moin compliqué car j ai un peu peur de partir a l aventure et avec 3 enfant! cela me couterais environ 1200e selon l agence de voyage a sa ajouter 600e de carburant et de peage doncje c pas trop sachant que je part en aout a ton que serais le mieux merci!!!
bonjour
j'ai pris en juillet 2011 ...alicante vers oran et retour avec algérie ferrys
un conseil ...utilise les toilettes du port et pas celles du bateau !!
les cabines ne sont pas terribles et chères
la plupart des passagers dorment entre les fauteuils à même le sol
à mon avis ...connaissant la route de gazaouet vers maghnia ...je préférerais prendre l'autoroute qui va de oran à maghnia
et j'avais pris une compagnie de bus de barbès qui m'a emmené jusque maghnia...à part le temps que met ce genre d'aventures ... 48 heures ...on est déposé au centre de maghnia ! pour 400€ aller et retour ! sans limitation de bagages !
bonnes vacances !
bonnes vacances !
j'appartiens à la race de ceux qui précèdent ...non qui suivent
bonjour, merci pour ton message, éffectivement je sais que les bateau sont sale car je les prend depuis que je suis née !!!lol.mais le soucis avec le bus .c est que la bas je veut pas etre a pied , c est la galére pour bouger , concerant les route je les connais et j ai l habitude des route pas térrible car quand je part en avions je loue sur place, mais la partir e avion a 5 2000e a sa s ajoute la location sur place soit 900e, et de l argent pour vivre et passer des vacances!donc a ce tarif autant partir en voiture cela me couteras 1200e plus carburant et péage 300e .... normalement;
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2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Hi,
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Hi there,
Can anyone tell me if it's possible to travel from the Dades Gorges (Msemrir) to the Todra Gorges (Tamtatouche) on a paved road? Thanks in advance for any answers.
Hello,
We’d like to hire a French-speaking guide (agency, professional, or volunteer) to show us around Cairo over three days.
Trip planned for November 22, 23, and 24, 2026—four veteran French travelers.
We’re open to any leads, contact info, or suggestions.
Best regards,
Jacques
Hi there,
I have a layover in Algeria.
I won’t be leaving the airport.
The two tickets aren’t with the same airline.
Do I need a transit visa?
Thanks for any details and your help!
Hi there,
I live in Casablanca and my parents, who are 80, will be joining me in Marrakech at the beginning of May for a few days.
We’ll be renting a car to get around.
Do you have any suggestions for things to see or visit within a 2-3 hour drive max from Marrakech that aren’t too touristy?
My parents can walk a bit, but at 80, no climbing Mount Toubkal!
Thanks so much in advance for your ideas!
Hi everyone, just back from the 8-day Marrakech-Merzouga loop by car, and I’d love to share my feedback in case it helps some of you. Big thanks to all the forum members who kindly answered my questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Hi there,
I’m traveling solo to Egypt. Could you give me a rough idea of the budget for:
meals
hotels
taxis including tips
visits...
Just an estimate, of course.
For 15 days, what would the price range be, considering there’s an overnight train and a Nile cruise?
I’d like to compare with a travel agency. Is it more worthwhile to go through an agency despite the downsides of group travel?
Otherwise, if a travel buddy is interested in this country, why not?
Thanks a lot!




