Trek dans le parc national d'El Cocuy (Colombie)
by Cha46lotte
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour,
Nous sommes actuellement en colombie. Nous aimerions aller faire un trek ds le parc del cocuy. Nous aurions aimé savoir si quelqu'un y était allé récemment, ?
Le parc est toujours ouvert ?
Cest toujours des randonnées à la journée et avec guide ?
Dans ces conditions c'est bcp moins atraillant...
Quelle alternative ?
Merci pour vos réponses.
http://www.parquesnacionales.gov.co/portal/es/ecoturismo/region-andina/parque-nacional-natural-el-cocuy-3/
Salut,
Apparemment ouai. Seulement 3 sentiers ouverts, guide et assurance obligatoire et interdiction de dormir dans le parc. Cela fait plusieurs années que la situation n'a pas évoluée...
Des alternatives de (beaux) treks en montagne en Colombie, je ne vois pas...
Bonne chance
Salut,
Apparemment ouai. Seulement 3 sentiers ouverts, guide et assurance obligatoire et interdiction de dormir dans le parc. Cela fait plusieurs années que la situation n'a pas évoluée...
Des alternatives de (beaux) treks en montagne en Colombie, je ne vois pas...
Bonne chance
J'ai fait une randonnée de la vallée de Cocora, vers Finca Primavera.
Mais c'est vrai que la Colombie n'est pas la meilleure destination pour des randonneurs indépendants, tous les autres pays andins sont plus accueillants ...
Bonsoir Charlotte,
....Cest toujours des randonnées à la journée et avec guide ? Dans ces conditions c'est bcp moins atraillant... Quelle alternative ? Merci pour vos réponses.
Un trek sympa, à faire en 2 nuits/ 3 jours et pas de guide nécessaire:
le canyon de Chicamocha, lien vers mon blog ci dessous:
https://marie-alain.blog4ever.com/colombie-27-canon-de-chicamocha-trek-de-3-jours2-nuitsmarche-a-l-ombre
Alternative possible, la Ciudad Perdida, mais trek payant et guide obligatoire:
https://marie-alain.blog4ever.com/colombie-21-dans-le-ventre-de-la-selva-la-ciudad-perdida
De belles randonnées également , à la journée, dans le Nariño et aussi dans les paramos comme Oceta avec ou sans guide..
Cordialement,
Alain
....Cest toujours des randonnées à la journée et avec guide ? Dans ces conditions c'est bcp moins atraillant... Quelle alternative ? Merci pour vos réponses.
Un trek sympa, à faire en 2 nuits/ 3 jours et pas de guide nécessaire:
le canyon de Chicamocha, lien vers mon blog ci dessous:
https://marie-alain.blog4ever.com/colombie-27-canon-de-chicamocha-trek-de-3-jours2-nuitsmarche-a-l-ombre
Alternative possible, la Ciudad Perdida, mais trek payant et guide obligatoire:
https://marie-alain.blog4ever.com/colombie-21-dans-le-ventre-de-la-selva-la-ciudad-perdida
De belles randonnées également , à la journée, dans le Nariño et aussi dans les paramos comme Oceta avec ou sans guide..
Cordialement,
Alain
Merci bcp pour ces réponses..
Nous allons peut être nous tourner vers le canyon de chicamocha.
Très triste d'apprendre que même pour le trek de la ciudad perdida il faut guide et tout le tralala... C'est sûre et certain ?
À bientôt !
Charlotte
Très triste d'apprendre que même pour le trek de la ciudad perdida il faut guide et tout le tralala... C'est sûre et certain ?
À bientôt !
Charlotte
Bonjour Charlotte,
"...Très triste d'apprendre que même pour le trek de la ciudad perdida il faut guide et tout le tralala... C'est sûre et certain ?"
Le parcours du trek de la Ciudad Perdida se situe dans sa totalité en "Terra Indigena", propriété des communautés Indiennes des Kogis, Wiwas et Arhuacos, tous descendants des Indiens Tayronas.
De la même façon que l'accès au parc Tayrona est réglementé en accord avec la communauté Indienne, la Ciudad Perdida n'est accessible qu'au travers d'agences qui ont négocié un partenariat avec le gouvernement Colombien et ces communautés .
Les Amérindiens considèrent ce secteur de la Sierra Nevada, en particulier les sentiers menant aux terrasses du site, comme lieu de purification attribuant à l'endroit un caractère sacré.
il est absolument impossible d'envisager d'effectuer ce trek sans passer par une des quatre agences qui ont leur siège à Santa Marta.
détails ci dessous:
https://marie-alain.blog4ever.com/colombie-21-dans-le-ventre-de-la-selva-la-ciudad-perdida
Cordialement, Alain
"...Très triste d'apprendre que même pour le trek de la ciudad perdida il faut guide et tout le tralala... C'est sûre et certain ?"
Le parcours du trek de la Ciudad Perdida se situe dans sa totalité en "Terra Indigena", propriété des communautés Indiennes des Kogis, Wiwas et Arhuacos, tous descendants des Indiens Tayronas.
De la même façon que l'accès au parc Tayrona est réglementé en accord avec la communauté Indienne, la Ciudad Perdida n'est accessible qu'au travers d'agences qui ont négocié un partenariat avec le gouvernement Colombien et ces communautés .
Les Amérindiens considèrent ce secteur de la Sierra Nevada, en particulier les sentiers menant aux terrasses du site, comme lieu de purification attribuant à l'endroit un caractère sacré.
il est absolument impossible d'envisager d'effectuer ce trek sans passer par une des quatre agences qui ont leur siège à Santa Marta.
détails ci dessous:
https://marie-alain.blog4ever.com/colombie-21-dans-le-ventre-de-la-selva-la-ciudad-perdida
Cordialement, Alain
Si tu laisse le touriste seul dans ces parcs cela devient l'usine à touriste avec déchet à volonté. Il y a plein de belles randonnées gratuites en Colombie mais il faut être bien équiper d'un GPS et pour lutter contre la pluie !
"Certes, un rêve de beignet, c'est un rêve, pas un beignet. Mais un rêve de voyage, c'est déjà un voyage". Marek Halter
« Les montagnes sont des géants assoupis. (...) Peut-être que nous ne sommes que leur rêve, un rêve de la terre somnolente » Théodore Roszak
« Les montagnes sont des géants assoupis. (...) Peut-être que nous ne sommes que leur rêve, un rêve de la terre somnolente » Théodore Roszak
Il n y a pas de culture randonnée en Colombie dû à un conflit armé de 50 années... Les populations ont étés chassés des montagnes. Il y a de quoi faire en randonnée pourtant mais c'est très humide et aucune signalisation.
"Certes, un rêve de beignet, c'est un rêve, pas un beignet. Mais un rêve de voyage, c'est déjà un voyage". Marek Halter
« Les montagnes sont des géants assoupis. (...) Peut-être que nous ne sommes que leur rêve, un rêve de la terre somnolente » Théodore Roszak
« Les montagnes sont des géants assoupis. (...) Peut-être que nous ne sommes que leur rêve, un rêve de la terre somnolente » Théodore Roszak
Pourtant, sur le trek de Cocuy et dans la vallée de Cocora, j'ai rencontré de jeunes Colombiens ...
En France on n'accepterait pas que la montagne soit interdite aux marcheurs sans guide ... Alors pourquoi trouves tu cela normal en Colombie ?
Et d'après toi les Colombiens sont des gens sales par rapport aux Européens ?
Vous connaissez mal la Colombie ! Ce sont 2 zones sacrées ! Le parc de Tayrona est aussi ferme de temps en temps.
Quittez un peu la France ou la Belgique ! En Chine l accès a la nature est en grande partie payant. En Tanzanie Ouganda de même. Oui en Europe, on a la chance d avoir un accès gratuit mais l accès au Mont Blanc va être réglementé. Regardez la poubelle géante de l Everest... Beaucoup de trek sont payant au Chili Pérou ...
Quittez un peu la France ou la Belgique ! En Chine l accès a la nature est en grande partie payant. En Tanzanie Ouganda de même. Oui en Europe, on a la chance d avoir un accès gratuit mais l accès au Mont Blanc va être réglementé. Regardez la poubelle géante de l Everest... Beaucoup de trek sont payant au Chili Pérou ...
"Certes, un rêve de beignet, c'est un rêve, pas un beignet. Mais un rêve de voyage, c'est déjà un voyage". Marek Halter
« Les montagnes sont des géants assoupis. (...) Peut-être que nous ne sommes que leur rêve, un rêve de la terre somnolente » Théodore Roszak
« Les montagnes sont des géants assoupis. (...) Peut-être que nous ne sommes que leur rêve, un rêve de la terre somnolente » Théodore Roszak
Je garde les mêmes opinions quel que soit le pays.
Et 'payant' c'est très différent de 'interdit sans guide'. Mais je suis complètement contre l'écologie réservée aux riches, comme pour beaucoup de parcs africains (d'ailleurs cette problématique est plus générale et au cœur du mouvement des gilets jaunes, par exemple).
Les territoires 'sacres', désolé je ne connais pas, je suis pour le droit au blasphème.
Je comprends tout à fait votre sentiment. Je n' apprecie pas moi non plus cet accès payant a la nature mais on est 8 milliards et beaucoup ne respectent pas la nature ( mer poubelle plastique, montagne de déchet en himalaya) .
Je suis en faveur de quota journalier plutôt que le choix de l accès aux riches.
Je le répète il y a plein de randonnée gratuite en Colombie mais ce n' est pas indiqué ou mis en évidence dans les brochures touristiques .
Je le répète il y a plein de randonnée gratuite en Colombie mais ce n' est pas indiqué ou mis en évidence dans les brochures touristiques .
"Certes, un rêve de beignet, c'est un rêve, pas un beignet. Mais un rêve de voyage, c'est déjà un voyage". Marek Halter
« Les montagnes sont des géants assoupis. (...) Peut-être que nous ne sommes que leur rêve, un rêve de la terre somnolente » Théodore Roszak
« Les montagnes sont des géants assoupis. (...) Peut-être que nous ne sommes que leur rêve, un rêve de la terre somnolente » Théodore Roszak
J'ai fait ce trek en septembre 2018
J'ai trouvé moyen, mais les gens y étaient très sympas.
Bon, j'ai passé pas mal de temps dans l'Himalaya, alors c'est sûr que c'est moins impressionnant 😉
J'ai trouvé dommage de devoir ne rester qu'un jour, le guide obligatoire pourquoi pas, après tout faut bien qu'ils travaillent, mais je peux être respectueux de l'environnement en restant quelques jours, il ne me semble pas avoir balancé le moindre déchet durant des mois passés dans l'Himalaya, alors bon.
Si j'avais le choix je retournerais plutôt dans l'Himalaya, parce qu'en plus de la beauté exceptionnelle des paysages, il y a une culture fantastique, ce que n'offre pas la Colombie.
J'ai trouvé dommage de devoir ne rester qu'un jour, le guide obligatoire pourquoi pas, après tout faut bien qu'ils travaillent, mais je peux être respectueux de l'environnement en restant quelques jours, il ne me semble pas avoir balancé le moindre déchet durant des mois passés dans l'Himalaya, alors bon.
Si j'avais le choix je retournerais plutôt dans l'Himalaya, parce qu'en plus de la beauté exceptionnelle des paysages, il y a une culture fantastique, ce que n'offre pas la Colombie.
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Thanks in advance!
Caro
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish. I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips? Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina? At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
Thanks in advance!
Caro
I’m traveling solo by plane to Catania in May and plan to hike the northern side of Etna, starting from Linguaglossa where I’ll arrive by bus. After that, I’d love some info on how to get up to Piano Provenzana (shuttles or hitchhiking), since it seems there’s no public transport except in the summer. Can you sleep there in a free or cheap refuge, or camp? And how far up can you go without having to hire a guide? Thanks in advance. Bernard.
Bonjour a tous,
je pars en voyage au Maroc en aout et nous allons commencer par nous arrêter a Chefchaouen(nous sommes en voiture).
Ma question: quelqu'un peut il m'indiquer un itinéraire de rando en boucle d'entre 5 et 7 jours aux départ de Chefchaouen dans le parc de Talassemtane passant si possible par le pont de dieux?Ou un guide papier qui en reunis quelques uns?
Nous privilégions le camping sauvage et les gites.
Merci d'avance
Hi there, for those who’ve been recently—is it possible to find other solo travelers in March on the island to share transport or room costs? It doesn’t seem easy to travel on a budget.
If you have any recommendations for simple lodgings or places with dorms, I’d love to hear them.
For those who’ve done multi-day treks while moving around: do you need to bring your own sleeping bag? I’d love to hear about itineraries you’ve done without a guide, just with a map and GPS.
Thanks, and have a great day!
Hi everyone!
We’re planning a 15-day road trip to Scotland this summer, specifically to explore and hike on Lewis and Harris—places we’ve never been before. We’ve visited other islands on previous road trips in Scotland (we usually go in April for a week). This would be our first time in Scotland in the summer and for 15 days. We’re looking at late August to early September.
I’m currently drafting the itinerary. We’d be crossing from Ullapool and were thinking of spending 3 nights on Harris and 4 nights on Lewis.
Does that sound balanced to you? Is it better to keep the same accommodation on Harris and the same on Lewis to explore the area? I’d love to hear about any past experiences you’ve had on these islands. Thanks!
I’m currently drafting the itinerary. We’d be crossing from Ullapool and were thinking of spending 3 nights on Harris and 4 nights on Lewis.
Does that sound balanced to you? Is it better to keep the same accommodation on Harris and the same on Lewis to explore the area? I’d love to hear about any past experiences you’ve had on these islands. Thanks!
Hi there, I’m trying to leave for 15 days very soon to São Vicente. I’m either looking to join an agency or figure things out on my own to go hiking on one of these islands or both. From what I’ve seen, it’s not easy to organize with local transport, so it gets expensive. Can I use the services of a small local agency? I’m looking for the simplest way to hike for several days. Also, how do you get from São Vicente to São Nicolau? Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Aichatou
Hi there,
I’ve been wanting to do this for several years, and this year’s the one. Next September, I’ll be trekking in Tusheti (Georgia), from Omalo to Shatili. Of course, I won’t be renting a vehicle that’d just sit unused. No problem getting to Pshaveli, but from there to Omalo, it’s a dirt road (still the case?) There must be some form of public transport since there are so many guesthouses, and not all travelers come in a 4x4. If any of you have been to Omalo, could you confirm that these shared transports exist and how often they run?
I’ve been wanting to do this for several years, and this year’s the one. Next September, I’ll be trekking in Tusheti (Georgia), from Omalo to Shatili. Of course, I won’t be renting a vehicle that’d just sit unused. No problem getting to Pshaveli, but from there to Omalo, it’s a dirt road (still the case?) There must be some form of public transport since there are so many guesthouses, and not all travelers come in a 4x4. If any of you have been to Omalo, could you confirm that these shared transports exist and how often they run?
hi
we’re planning a trip to Yellowstone and hoping to do a three-day backcountry hike if we get a permit. if any of you have done this before, could you let me know if it’s possible to find water along the way? And if we can transport it, are we allowed to use a stove?
thanks for any tips!
sandra
we’re planning a trip to Yellowstone and hoping to do a three-day backcountry hike if we get a permit. if any of you have done this before, could you let me know if it’s possible to find water along the way? And if we can transport it, are we allowed to use a stove?
thanks for any tips!
sandra
Hello,
I’ll be in Nepal from March 6th to 29th (we’re flying into Kathmandu via Varanasi and leaving via Delhi).
I’m a bit confused about the regulations requiring a guide.
My wife and I (we’re 63 and 64) aren’t experienced trekkers—we’re more used to walking on terrain with very moderate elevation changes. I’m looking for fairly easy hikes, possibly day trips. Here are my questions: - Does the Poon Hill trek from Pokhara require a guide, or is it better to go through a local agency? (I’ve seen a lot of them offering 4-day packages) - I’d like to do a few multi-day hikes around Jomsom (Kagbeni, Mukitinath, Lupra, Marpha)... Do you need a guide for those, and can you find accommodations easily without booking in advance?
Last question—I’m really hesitant to lug around a sleeping bag or down jacket during our 6 weeks in India. Can you easily find these kinds of items at reasonable prices in Pokhara?
Thanks in advance for any tips you can share! Yann
My wife and I (we’re 63 and 64) aren’t experienced trekkers—we’re more used to walking on terrain with very moderate elevation changes. I’m looking for fairly easy hikes, possibly day trips. Here are my questions: - Does the Poon Hill trek from Pokhara require a guide, or is it better to go through a local agency? (I’ve seen a lot of them offering 4-day packages) - I’d like to do a few multi-day hikes around Jomsom (Kagbeni, Mukitinath, Lupra, Marpha)... Do you need a guide for those, and can you find accommodations easily without booking in advance?
Last question—I’m really hesitant to lug around a sleeping bag or down jacket during our 6 weeks in India. Can you easily find these kinds of items at reasonable prices in Pokhara?
Thanks in advance for any tips you can share! Yann
Hello.
I’m a 56-year-old man who’s done several treks in Nepal and elsewhere. Also passionate about photography. I’m looking for one or more people to form a group for a trek in Nepal. The trek is the Annapurna and Manaslu circuit (24 days), including a stop at Tilicho Lake. I’ve got a great itinerary and the local company seems solid. The price is around $1600. I’ll be in Nepal from April 5 to May 12, 2026, so the trek would need to happen within those dates.
Daniel, Québec, Canada
I’m a 56-year-old man who’s done several treks in Nepal and elsewhere. Also passionate about photography. I’m looking for one or more people to form a group for a trek in Nepal. The trek is the Annapurna and Manaslu circuit (24 days), including a stop at Tilicho Lake. I’ve got a great itinerary and the local company seems solid. The price is around $1600. I’ll be in Nepal from April 5 to May 12, 2026, so the trek would need to happen within those dates.
Daniel, Québec, Canada





