Ps: Je ne suis pas abonné au luxe et je peux me serrer la ceinture quelques jours en rando ;).
Trek de El Mirador au Guatemala
by Dianabolik
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
J'ai fait une recherche sur le site et j'ai envoyé un mail à l'agence Bonvoyage afin de connaître le prix de la rando. Réponse: entre 650e en groupe et 1100e seul. J'ai à nouveau regardé sur ce site et certaines personnes affirment avoir fait cette marche pour 300$. Je souhaite un guide avec eau, tente et basta. Je serai au Guatemala en janvier et pour un mois mais je n'ai pas l'équipement ni l'expérience de la jungle pour le faire seul. Pourriez-vous me communiquer des infos afin de ne pas me ruiner pour une marche de quelques jours.
Merci beaucoup et désolé si je ne suis pas explicite mais je suis à l'étranger et je n'ai pas internet régulièrement et il me reste peu de temps avant le Guatemala... .
Ps: Je ne suis pas abonné au luxe et je peux me serrer la ceinture quelques jours en rando ;).
Ps: Je ne suis pas abonné au luxe et je peux me serrer la ceinture quelques jours en rando ;).
Salut sujet plusieurs fois abordé;
à l'agence San Juan de Flores si tu trouves un groupe tu peux faire baisser le prix à 300 dollars sinon en solo à 500.
Re :la randonnée dure 5 jours, premier jour jusqu'à El Tintal deuxième le plus long jusqu'à El Mirador.REste un jour pour visiter puis le retour
Salut,
J'ai entendu dire que le prix est de 300$
mais je vais demander les prix à quelqu'une sur place.
Je ne suis pas certain mais je crois qu'elle m'avait dit
300$ en hélicoptère hihi mais je vais lui demander.
Je crois être à Peten à partir le vendredi 6 janvier 2012
je serais au Guatemala entre le 3 janvier et le 12 fev 2012
je serais au Guatemala entre le 3 janvier et le 12 fev 2012
Kiej
Bonsoir,
Je ne suis pas certain mais je crois qu'elle m'avait dit 300$ en hélicoptère hihi mais je vais lui demander. Je crois être à Peten à partir le vendredi 6 janvier 2012
pour l'hélicoptère il faut faire partie d'un groupe sinon le pilote m'avait dit 1200$ un voyage seul par personne sans négociation. Dans le meilleur des cas l'agence San Juan peut proposer à 300-400. J'avais payé le guide de la CONAP 1200 Q mais pour un seul voyage du site jusqu'à Carmelita. Pour revenir à Flores un camion de livraison m'avait pris.
Je ne suis pas certain mais je crois qu'elle m'avait dit 300$ en hélicoptère hihi mais je vais lui demander. Je crois être à Peten à partir le vendredi 6 janvier 2012
pour l'hélicoptère il faut faire partie d'un groupe sinon le pilote m'avait dit 1200$ un voyage seul par personne sans négociation. Dans le meilleur des cas l'agence San Juan peut proposer à 300-400. J'avais payé le guide de la CONAP 1200 Q mais pour un seul voyage du site jusqu'à Carmelita. Pour revenir à Flores un camion de livraison m'avait pris.
Dianabolik, resalut
dis moi quand tu vas arriver au Guatemala. Je vais probablement t'aider. Moi, J'arrive à San Salvador le 2 janvier et le 3 jan je prendre l'autobus pour me rendre à Guatemala city.
Je vais rester à la ville en principe jusqu'à 6 janvier. Je vais prendre route vers Flores (Peten) Je vais rester quelques jours.
Pour le voyage au Mirador j'aurais + de détails cette semaine.
Arrives tu à Guatemala city? As tu une place ou arriver?
dis moi quand tu vas arriver au Guatemala. Je vais probablement t'aider. Moi, J'arrive à San Salvador le 2 janvier et le 3 jan je prendre l'autobus pour me rendre à Guatemala city.
Je vais rester à la ville en principe jusqu'à 6 janvier. Je vais prendre route vers Flores (Peten) Je vais rester quelques jours.
Pour le voyage au Mirador j'aurais + de détails cette semaine.
Arrives tu à Guatemala city? As tu une place ou arriver?
Kiej
J'arrive à Guatemala city le 12 janvier et j'aimerais faire El Mirador dès le début de mon voyage afin de parcourir le sud par la suite. Non, je n'ai pas de place où arriver. Je n'ai pas internet tous les jours car je suis à l'étranger, au Texas.
Salut Steph,
Alors tu arrive a l'airport La Aurora?
laisses moi savoir la compagnie, le vol et l'heure
que tu arrives. Ton nom et je vais aller te chercher ou
envoyer quelqu'un (e)
Selon l'heure veux tu partir la même journée à Peten?
ou
veux-tu dormir à Guatemala city? Pour avoir les horaires
d'autobus?
parles tu l'espagnol?
Kiej
J'arrive à 12h30 et j'aimerais donc partir pour San Remate et préparer la marche depuis ce village ou y dormir et aller à flores à l'agence afin de préparer cela. Je n'ai pas beaucoup d'argent pour ce voyage et je ne veux donc pas séjourner dans les lieux dispendieux et je n'aime pas spécialement les endroits touristiques donc voilà ;)
Bonsoir
J'arrive à 12h30 et j'aimerais donc partir pour San Remate et préparer la marche depuis ce village ou y dormir et aller à flores à l'agence afin de préparer cela.
pour les messages à titre personnel tu sais que les messages privés ça existe ?
J'arrive à 12h30 et j'aimerais donc partir pour San Remate et préparer la marche depuis ce village ou y dormir et aller à flores à l'agence afin de préparer cela.
pour les messages à titre personnel tu sais que les messages privés ça existe ?
Bonsoir
J'arrive à 12h30 et j'aimerais donc partir pour San Remate et préparer la marche depuis ce village ou y dormir et aller à flores à l'agence afin de préparer cela.
pour les messages à titre personnel tu sais que les messages privés ça existe ?
Oui, simple erreur mais ce n'est pas vraiment important. N'est-ce pas?
J'arrive à 12h30 et j'aimerais donc partir pour San Remate et préparer la marche depuis ce village ou y dormir et aller à flores à l'agence afin de préparer cela.
pour les messages à titre personnel tu sais que les messages privés ça existe ?
Oui, simple erreur mais ce n'est pas vraiment important. N'est-ce pas?
salut,
je avais pas vu ton message, nous avions nous meme posté sur un autre sujet.
On a pas eu le temps de faire un compte rendu, mais si tu n es pas deja e route pour le mirador, il existe des moyens pour 200e environs voire moins peut etre en groupe, pour 5-6 jours.
On promet de faire un compt rendu sur le forum des qu on a le temps, mais sinon envoie nous un message, on a adresse mail et numero de tel a te communiquer.
Si tu te rends directement a carmelita et que tu xherche un guide local, ca peut peut etre couter encore moins cher (sans passer par la cooperativa, qui est soit disant la seule institution a pouvoir acceder au site, ce qui n est en pratique pas vrai.)
Pour ce prix tu auras, eau, mule pour les bagages, nourriture, guide et eventuellement acces aux installations (tres sommaire) des gardes.
je avais pas vu ton message, nous avions nous meme posté sur un autre sujet.
On a pas eu le temps de faire un compte rendu, mais si tu n es pas deja e route pour le mirador, il existe des moyens pour 200e environs voire moins peut etre en groupe, pour 5-6 jours.
On promet de faire un compt rendu sur le forum des qu on a le temps, mais sinon envoie nous un message, on a adresse mail et numero de tel a te communiquer.
Si tu te rends directement a carmelita et que tu xherche un guide local, ca peut peut etre couter encore moins cher (sans passer par la cooperativa, qui est soit disant la seule institution a pouvoir acceder au site, ce qui n est en pratique pas vrai.)
Pour ce prix tu auras, eau, mule pour les bagages, nourriture, guide et eventuellement acces aux installations (tres sommaire) des gardes.
Si ca peut aider les prochaines randonneurs dans le coin, je confirme, il est tout a fait possible et meme recommande d´aller directement a carmelita en chicken bus et de ne pas ne passer par la cooperative!! Cette derniere prend une commission, en plus de la commission des agences de voyage-si vous passez par une agence- ce qui fait que si on vous demande 600 quetzales par jour par exemple, le guide n´en percevra que 100 alors que c´est lui qui se tape tout le boulot! A cause de cette cooperative qui a le monopole (les agences sont obligees de traiter avec elle, un touriste lambda fait en revanche ce qu´il veut), de nombreux locaux ont perdu une source importante de revenus, et a carmelita ils ne roulent pas sur l´or, pas d´eau courante, maisons en terre battue, une vie tres modeste de paysans pour qui les trecks etaient un gros plus.
Je reviens tout juste de Carmelita, nous y sommes alles directement et avons trouve un jeune guide. Nous etions 2 et pour le guide, la bouffe, l´eau et les 2 mules on a paye 120 euros par personne (si vous n´etes que 2 une agence de Flores demande 480 dollars us!) Sachant qu´on a decide de le faire en 3 jours, ce qui est assez sportif mais faisable. Mais dans tous les cas c´est vraiment moins cher et on sait a qui revient l´argent.
Pour plus d´infos n´hesitez pas a me demander, je peux transmettre le nom de notre guide, vraiment adorable, on a plante notre tente chez lui le 1er et le dernier soir, mange avec sa famille, genial et tres pro.
Il est egalement tout a fait possible de faire le treck seul, si on est motive pour porter le matos, la bouffe et l´eau, mais rien ne l´interdit si vous etes un peu aventuriers!
Bonjour Dianabolik,
Pour ma part, j'ai fait un séjour au Panama et aussi je ne connaissais rien en jungle, et heureusement la jungle d'Amérique Centrale est moins austère qu'en Guyane, bref j'ai eu la chance de rencontre une équipe (je ne fais pas de pub) qui ont une école jungle et ils m'ont carrément formé sur 10 jours, avec et sans matériels au Trek, par contre c'était dans le prix que tu annonces, pension complète. Maintenant je suis en polynésie et je dois avouer que je sais quoi faire pour aller dans ces forêts Je n'ai pas le droit de faire de pub et je ne sais comment faire pour te conseiller, mais essaye de te former avant, car la jungle a ses dangers, ils ont écris un article sur comment vivre en jungle: survivre en jungle, je l'ai téléchargé en pdf
sinon bon courage à toi
xavier
Pour ma part, j'ai fait un séjour au Panama et aussi je ne connaissais rien en jungle, et heureusement la jungle d'Amérique Centrale est moins austère qu'en Guyane, bref j'ai eu la chance de rencontre une équipe (je ne fais pas de pub) qui ont une école jungle et ils m'ont carrément formé sur 10 jours, avec et sans matériels au Trek, par contre c'était dans le prix que tu annonces, pension complète. Maintenant je suis en polynésie et je dois avouer que je sais quoi faire pour aller dans ces forêts Je n'ai pas le droit de faire de pub et je ne sais comment faire pour te conseiller, mais essaye de te former avant, car la jungle a ses dangers, ils ont écris un article sur comment vivre en jungle: survivre en jungle, je l'ai téléchargé en pdf
sinon bon courage à toi
xavier
oser, c'est dépasser son stress.
Je n'ai pas le droit de faire de pub et je ne sais comment faire pour te conseiller, mais essaye de te former avant, car la jungle a ses dangers, ils ont écris un article sur comment vivre en jungle: survivre en jungle, je l'ai téléchargé en pdf
désolé pour le HS mais tu ne sais pas s'ils recrutent des formateurs 😉 ?
désolé pour le HS mais tu ne sais pas s'ils recrutent des formateurs 😉 ?
Bonjour
Tu peux leur poser la question directement (ils ont un contact sur leur site, survie-jungle.com) enfin, je ne pense pas, car tout de même, ils ont un sacré passé: il ya un ex guérillero, un ex commando de jungle et un indien Embera😮 et une d'origine indienne qui enseigne la pharmacopée.
Mais comme dirait l'autre, on ne sait jamais non?
Bonne chance, et le Panama c'est excellent!!
Xavier
oser, c'est dépasser son stress.
bonjour,
je serais au Guatémala en février 2013. Nous pensions éventuellement faire le trek jusque El Mirador. Peux-tu me donner le contact de la personne avec laquelle tu as organisé ton trek ?
MErci d'avance
Cordialement
Bonjour, Nous avions fait le treek jusqu'à el Mirador avec un guide qui s'appelle Walfre Chi, et ça avait été à la hauteur de nos expectatives. Tu peux trouver des renseignement sur lui sur internet. Pour le contacter directement voie-ci son mail:
walfrechi@gmail.com
Bonjour, Nous avions fait le treek jusqu'à el Mirador avec un guide qui s'appelle Walfre Chi, et ça avait été à la hauteur de nos expectatives. Tu peux trouver des renseignement sur lui sur internet. Pour le contacter directement voie-ci son mail:
walfrechi@gmail.com
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So, a little question for those who’ve done treks to Everest before… any tips for good mental preparation (I’m already working on the physical side)?
Thanks in advance for your advice! 🙂
Hi there, I’m planning the Annapurna Circuit for March 2027 and I’m looking for a local agency with a local guide—preferably French-speaking—to arrange this trek for us. Any suggestions? Thanks
Hello!
We’re spending a few days in Toraja country at the end of May. We’d love to do a day trek—taking our time—on a route that’s stunning in terms of scenery, but not a level 5 in difficulty!
Any suggestions you can share, please?
Thanks in advance
Hi everyone,
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish. I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips? Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina? At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
Thanks in advance!
Caro
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish. I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips? Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina? At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
Thanks in advance!
Caro
I’m traveling solo by plane to Catania in May and plan to hike the northern side of Etna, starting from Linguaglossa where I’ll arrive by bus. After that, I’d love some info on how to get up to Piano Provenzana (shuttles or hitchhiking), since it seems there’s no public transport except in the summer. Can you sleep there in a free or cheap refuge, or camp? And how far up can you go without having to hire a guide? Thanks in advance. Bernard.
Hi everyone,
I’m heading to Morocco in August and we’ll start with a stop in Chefchaouen (we’re driving).
My question: can anyone suggest a 5-to-7-day loop hiking route from Chefchaouen in Talassemtane Park, ideally passing by the God’s Bridge? Or a paper guidebook that covers a few options?
We prefer wild camping and guesthouses.
Thanks in advance
Hi there, for those who’ve been recently—is it possible to find other solo travelers in March on the island to share transport or room costs? It doesn’t seem easy to travel on a budget.
If you have any recommendations for simple lodgings or places with dorms, I’d love to hear them.
For those who’ve done multi-day treks while moving around: do you need to bring your own sleeping bag? I’d love to hear about itineraries you’ve done without a guide, just with a map and GPS.
Thanks, and have a great day!
Hi everyone!
We’re planning a 15-day road trip to Scotland this summer, specifically to explore and hike on Lewis and Harris—places we’ve never been before. We’ve visited other islands on previous road trips in Scotland (we usually go in April for a week). This would be our first time in Scotland in the summer and for 15 days. We’re looking at late August to early September.
I’m currently drafting the itinerary. We’d be crossing from Ullapool and were thinking of spending 3 nights on Harris and 4 nights on Lewis.
Does that sound balanced to you? Is it better to keep the same accommodation on Harris and the same on Lewis to explore the area? I’d love to hear about any past experiences you’ve had on these islands. Thanks!
I’m currently drafting the itinerary. We’d be crossing from Ullapool and were thinking of spending 3 nights on Harris and 4 nights on Lewis.
Does that sound balanced to you? Is it better to keep the same accommodation on Harris and the same on Lewis to explore the area? I’d love to hear about any past experiences you’ve had on these islands. Thanks!
Hi there, I’m trying to leave for 15 days very soon to São Vicente. I’m either looking to join an agency or figure things out on my own to go hiking on one of these islands or both. From what I’ve seen, it’s not easy to organize with local transport, so it gets expensive. Can I use the services of a small local agency? I’m looking for the simplest way to hike for several days. Also, how do you get from São Vicente to São Nicolau? Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Aichatou
Hi there,
I’ve been wanting to do this for several years, and this year’s the one. Next September, I’ll be trekking in Tusheti (Georgia), from Omalo to Shatili. Of course, I won’t be renting a vehicle that’d just sit unused. No problem getting to Pshaveli, but from there to Omalo, it’s a dirt road (still the case?) There must be some form of public transport since there are so many guesthouses, and not all travelers come in a 4x4. If any of you have been to Omalo, could you confirm that these shared transports exist and how often they run?
I’ve been wanting to do this for several years, and this year’s the one. Next September, I’ll be trekking in Tusheti (Georgia), from Omalo to Shatili. Of course, I won’t be renting a vehicle that’d just sit unused. No problem getting to Pshaveli, but from there to Omalo, it’s a dirt road (still the case?) There must be some form of public transport since there are so many guesthouses, and not all travelers come in a 4x4. If any of you have been to Omalo, could you confirm that these shared transports exist and how often they run?
hi
we’re planning a trip to Yellowstone and hoping to do a three-day backcountry hike if we get a permit. if any of you have done this before, could you let me know if it’s possible to find water along the way? And if we can transport it, are we allowed to use a stove?
thanks for any tips!
sandra
we’re planning a trip to Yellowstone and hoping to do a three-day backcountry hike if we get a permit. if any of you have done this before, could you let me know if it’s possible to find water along the way? And if we can transport it, are we allowed to use a stove?
thanks for any tips!
sandra
Hello,
I’ll be in Nepal from March 6th to 29th (we’re flying into Kathmandu via Varanasi and leaving via Delhi).
I’m a bit confused about the regulations requiring a guide.
My wife and I (we’re 63 and 64) aren’t experienced trekkers—we’re more used to walking on terrain with very moderate elevation changes. I’m looking for fairly easy hikes, possibly day trips. Here are my questions: - Does the Poon Hill trek from Pokhara require a guide, or is it better to go through a local agency? (I’ve seen a lot of them offering 4-day packages) - I’d like to do a few multi-day hikes around Jomsom (Kagbeni, Mukitinath, Lupra, Marpha)... Do you need a guide for those, and can you find accommodations easily without booking in advance?
Last question—I’m really hesitant to lug around a sleeping bag or down jacket during our 6 weeks in India. Can you easily find these kinds of items at reasonable prices in Pokhara?
Thanks in advance for any tips you can share! Yann
My wife and I (we’re 63 and 64) aren’t experienced trekkers—we’re more used to walking on terrain with very moderate elevation changes. I’m looking for fairly easy hikes, possibly day trips. Here are my questions: - Does the Poon Hill trek from Pokhara require a guide, or is it better to go through a local agency? (I’ve seen a lot of them offering 4-day packages) - I’d like to do a few multi-day hikes around Jomsom (Kagbeni, Mukitinath, Lupra, Marpha)... Do you need a guide for those, and can you find accommodations easily without booking in advance?
Last question—I’m really hesitant to lug around a sleeping bag or down jacket during our 6 weeks in India. Can you easily find these kinds of items at reasonable prices in Pokhara?
Thanks in advance for any tips you can share! Yann
Hello.
I’m a 56-year-old man who’s done several treks in Nepal and elsewhere. Also passionate about photography. I’m looking for one or more people to form a group for a trek in Nepal. The trek is the Annapurna and Manaslu circuit (24 days), including a stop at Tilicho Lake. I’ve got a great itinerary and the local company seems solid. The price is around $1600. I’ll be in Nepal from April 5 to May 12, 2026, so the trek would need to happen within those dates.
Daniel, Québec, Canada
I’m a 56-year-old man who’s done several treks in Nepal and elsewhere. Also passionate about photography. I’m looking for one or more people to form a group for a trek in Nepal. The trek is the Annapurna and Manaslu circuit (24 days), including a stop at Tilicho Lake. I’ve got a great itinerary and the local company seems solid. The price is around $1600. I’ll be in Nepal from April 5 to May 12, 2026, so the trek would need to happen within those dates.
Daniel, Québec, Canada




