Où trouver des cartes routières détaillées du Sud marocain?
by Daguais
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Bonjour, ou puis'je trouver des cartes detaillées du sud marocain. l'une d'elles se nommes la route des Agadir, mais je ne la trouves pas. Merci de me tuyauter. joel.
Bonjour
la "route des Agadirs" est une sorte de circuit, et pas une "carte routière". Michelin fait de bonnes cartes, largement suffisantes.
la "route des Agadirs" est une sorte de circuit, et pas une "carte routière". Michelin fait de bonnes cartes, largement suffisantes.
Des infos pour vivre et travailler au Maroc : http://o-maroc.com
Carte touristique de l'anti atlas , malgré son nom elle est fort utile , au regard de son échelle : 1/150 000 . La carte Michelin par exemple c'est une vrai galère pour Aït Mansour et ses alentours . C'est grace à cette carte que j'ai pu prendre la piste qui après IZerbi permet de rejoindre Icht .
Les auteurs : Herbert Popp , Brahim El Faskaoui et Mohamed AÏt Hamza . Maison d'édition : Naturwissenschaftliche -
Cette carte recense aussi les agadirs , mais si on sait la lire elle peut être extrêmement plus utile que la Michelin .
Les auteurs : Herbert Popp , Brahim El Faskaoui et Mohamed AÏt Hamza . Maison d'édition : Naturwissenschaftliche -
Cette carte recense aussi les agadirs , mais si on sait la lire elle peut être extrêmement plus utile que la Michelin .
Que se vuelva la tortilla
Je ne connaissais pas cette carte que tu as cité Hannah... Pas donné mais j'adore les cartes routières et je pense que je vais chercher à l'acquérir 😊...
Par contre, si c'est vrai que je suis un fan des cartes papiers.... j'essaye de voyager avec les nouvelles technologies et je dois avouer que les deux sont bien complémentaires... Avoir un smartphone avec soit est pour moi une bonne idée surtout quand j'ai besoin de voyager le plus léger possible...
Il existe déjà une application gratuite et sans connexion internet qui est Mapwithme ....il se sont basés sur les cartes russes pour ça et question précision c'est le top... Très pratique...
Et au Maroc où la connexion internet est très bonne, il suffit avec une carte sim à 20 dhs et une autre recharge à 20 dhs exprès pour le net d'avoir 1GO ce qui est beaucoup et de se servir de l'appli Maps avec GPS...en mode satellite c'est énorme.... On a de suite sa position et on peu voir de très nombreux détails y compris le relief....
Par contre, si c'est vrai que je suis un fan des cartes papiers.... j'essaye de voyager avec les nouvelles technologies et je dois avouer que les deux sont bien complémentaires... Avoir un smartphone avec soit est pour moi une bonne idée surtout quand j'ai besoin de voyager le plus léger possible...
Il existe déjà une application gratuite et sans connexion internet qui est Mapwithme ....il se sont basés sur les cartes russes pour ça et question précision c'est le top... Très pratique...
Et au Maroc où la connexion internet est très bonne, il suffit avec une carte sim à 20 dhs et une autre recharge à 20 dhs exprès pour le net d'avoir 1GO ce qui est beaucoup et de se servir de l'appli Maps avec GPS...en mode satellite c'est énorme.... On a de suite sa position et on peu voir de très nombreux détails y compris le relief....
Merci pour l'explication détaillée . Il va falloir que je me fasse aux nouvelles technologies . (c'est pas gagné 😉 ) .
J'aime les cartes et les guides papiers , c'est lourd et encombrants certes , mais ça permet aussi de construire un parcours en ayant une vision globale du pays . Je collectionne un peu , quelle galère quand on habite un petit bled pour trouver des cartes d'Albanie par exemple ( heureusement y'a le net mais on ne trouve pas tout ) .
Cette carte je l'ai trouvé dans un hôtel de Tafraoute , pour les coordonnés exacts on peut s'adresser à:
NGB , c/o géographisches inst. Stadtgeographie , universitatsstr, 30 95447 Bayreuth . Ouf j'ai tout recopié !!!!! 😎😎😎
J'aime les cartes et les guides papiers , c'est lourd et encombrants certes , mais ça permet aussi de construire un parcours en ayant une vision globale du pays . Je collectionne un peu , quelle galère quand on habite un petit bled pour trouver des cartes d'Albanie par exemple ( heureusement y'a le net mais on ne trouve pas tout ) .
Cette carte je l'ai trouvé dans un hôtel de Tafraoute , pour les coordonnés exacts on peut s'adresser à:
NGB , c/o géographisches inst. Stadtgeographie , universitatsstr, 30 95447 Bayreuth . Ouf j'ai tout recopié !!!!! 😎😎😎
Que se vuelva la tortilla
Exact , c'est bien celle ci et du coup je découvre celle du saghro , chouette. Tu as vu la discussion sur les bretons à l'ouest et à l'est dans ton road trip 😎
Que se vuelva la tortilla
Bonjour a tous,
pour moi y'a pas mieux que "le souk":
http://jemecasseausoleil.blogspot.fr/2012/08/cartes-du-maroc.html
Grosse banque de données de cartes, notement une rubrique sud Maroc tout en bas en 1_125000
Indispensable pour les randos et recherche de pistes.
Byebye
http://jemecasseausoleil.blogspot.fr/2012/08/cartes-du-maroc.html
Grosse banque de données de cartes, notement une rubrique sud Maroc tout en bas en 1_125000
Indispensable pour les randos et recherche de pistes.
Byebye
A Ludo ,
Super ton souk 😉 seul problème pour moi , sans smartphone je me débrouille comment ? mais il peut m'aider dans les préparations . c'est complet .
Merci .
Hannah
Super ton souk 😉 seul problème pour moi , sans smartphone je me débrouille comment ? mais il peut m'aider dans les préparations . c'est complet .
Merci .
Hannah
Que se vuelva la tortilla
Je le connaissais déjà et j'aime bien car on y a les courbes de niveaux mais la plupart des cartes ont quand même un paquet d'années et pour rouler en voiture, elles sont obsolètes... On y trouve des sentiers qui sont maintenant des routes goudronnées quand même... 40 ans de retard pour les cartes pour les plus jeunes...Heu...😛
Ce site n'est pas fait pour voyager, il est fait pour les fans de cartographies... Je pense même que cela peut être dangereux de ne voyager qu'avec ça...
Et quitte à avoir un smartphone comme tu le dis, Google earth va malgré le travail remarquable du site, renvoyer celui ci à l'âge de pierre (précambrien?)... (j'espère ne pas te vexer si c'est le tiens)
Sinon, sans smartphone, il est aussi possible d'imprimer ses cartes depuis google earth et map... Je ne connais que Android mais il semble que apple a aussi un bon système de carte.
Ce site n'est pas fait pour voyager, il est fait pour les fans de cartographies... Je pense même que cela peut être dangereux de ne voyager qu'avec ça...
Et quitte à avoir un smartphone comme tu le dis, Google earth va malgré le travail remarquable du site, renvoyer celui ci à l'âge de pierre (précambrien?)... (j'espère ne pas te vexer si c'est le tiens)
Sinon, sans smartphone, il est aussi possible d'imprimer ses cartes depuis google earth et map... Je ne connais que Android mais il semble que apple a aussi un bon système de carte.
Salut!!
Pas vexé du tout!!
Je suis parti l'an dernier au Maroc sans préparation faire des trecks, une fois sur place je me suis servi de ces cartes pour les randos.Sa m'a bien aidé et sa m'a évité de chercher des cartes introuvables au maroc. Effectivement elles sont vieilles, mais je n'avais pas de smartphone avec moi.Mais finalement vu la qualité du réseau 3G au Maroc la prochaine fois sa sera en mode technologie!!! byebye
Je suis parti l'an dernier au Maroc sans préparation faire des trecks, une fois sur place je me suis servi de ces cartes pour les randos.Sa m'a bien aidé et sa m'a évité de chercher des cartes introuvables au maroc. Effectivement elles sont vieilles, mais je n'avais pas de smartphone avec moi.Mais finalement vu la qualité du réseau 3G au Maroc la prochaine fois sa sera en mode technologie!!! byebye
La nostalgie des cartes c'est quelque chose que je comprends car comme je le disais, je suis hyper fan de ça... Je m'achète même des fois des cartes de régions du monde que je ne ferais probablement pas mais juste pour... regarder...😛...
Cependant, il ne faut pas perdre de vue une chose, pour s'orienter il faut impérativement de la précision...
Après, la technologie, on pense toujours avoir du mal avec les nouvelles qui arrivent... Mais, je pense que les anciens disaient la même chose quand ils ont lâché les étoiles pour s'orienter sur des bout de papiers avec une boussole...
Je ne serais pas étonné que d'ici 2 générations, qu'il soit impossible de se procurer une carte routière.
Cependant, il ne faut pas perdre de vue une chose, pour s'orienter il faut impérativement de la précision...
Après, la technologie, on pense toujours avoir du mal avec les nouvelles qui arrivent... Mais, je pense que les anciens disaient la même chose quand ils ont lâché les étoiles pour s'orienter sur des bout de papiers avec une boussole...
Je ne serais pas étonné que d'ici 2 générations, qu'il soit impossible de se procurer une carte routière.
bonjour Joel,
tu vas sur le site Globe 4X4 à montpellier, tu auras toutes les cartes du monde moyennant euros bien sur..
Cdlt..Rv
Rv.
bonsoir Baroud,
Non, je ne les achète pas ; je roule avec GPS et carto du Maroc au 1/25000 ème..
j'ai lu tes récits qui sont super bien , et accompagnés de belles photos..bravo !!!!
bonne continuation à toi...Cordialement..Rv
Rv.
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3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Hi,
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Hi there,
Can anyone tell me if it's possible to travel from the Dades Gorges (Msemrir) to the Todra Gorges (Tamtatouche) on a paved road? Thanks in advance for any answers.
Hello,
We’d like to hire a French-speaking guide (agency, professional, or volunteer) to show us around Cairo over three days.
Trip planned for November 22, 23, and 24, 2026—four veteran French travelers.
We’re open to any leads, contact info, or suggestions.
Best regards,
Jacques
Hi there,
I have a layover in Algeria.
I won’t be leaving the airport.
The two tickets aren’t with the same airline.
Do I need a transit visa?
Thanks for any details and your help!
Hi there,
I live in Casablanca and my parents, who are 80, will be joining me in Marrakech at the beginning of May for a few days.
We’ll be renting a car to get around.
Do you have any suggestions for things to see or visit within a 2-3 hour drive max from Marrakech that aren’t too touristy?
My parents can walk a bit, but at 80, no climbing Mount Toubkal!
Thanks so much in advance for your ideas!