05/08/14 AÉROPORT CHARLES DE GAULLE 11:00 DIRECTION Johannesburg 06/08/14 Arri 04:35 Johg Nuit Summerset Place Country House Bela bela 07/08/14 Mapungbwe Leokwe camp 08/08/14 Mapungbwe Leokwe camp 09/08/14 Louis Trichardt Mount Azimbo Lodge 10/08/14 kruger Trichardt P Maria 141 kms nuit Shingwedzi RC 71km 11/08/14 kruger nuit Mopani rest camp 12/08/14 kruger Olifants rest camp Morning Walk102 + 30 km 13/08/14 kruger Talamati Bushveld camp 52 + 93km 14/08/14 kruger Lower Sabie( 137 km dir Graskop )Morning drive 15/08/14 Graskop Zur Alten Mine Guest House 16/08/14 Graskop Zur Alten Mine Guest House 17/08/14 ICI 18/08/14 ICI 19/08/14 ICI 20/08/14 ICI 21/08/14 Hluhluwe Imfolozi Game Reserve MPILA 22/08/14 Hluhluwe Imfolozi Game Reserve MPILA 23/08/14 Drakensberg Thendele RN 24/08/14 Drakensberg Thendele RN 25/08/14 Thendele Johan . dép 20:30 vol pour Abu Dhabi nuit Avion 26/08/14 Arrivée 06:50 nuit abu Dhabi Beach Rotana Hotel & Towers 27/08/14 nuit abu Dhabi Beach Rotana Hotel & Towers 28/08/14 nuit abu Dhabi Beach Rotana Hotel & Towers 29/08/14 journée abu Dhabi et départ le soir 02:10 ( 30/08 )
Variante du roadtrip Afrique Sud/Swaziland/EAU
by Valstuff321
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour
Que feriez vous le
le 17 et 18 Aout ( nous avons une réservation modifiable au Swaziland )
et 19 et 20 Aout ( Réservation modifiable à St Lucia)
Est ce bien comme ça ? quelle variante possible ? La météo dans le carnet de Fred indique un changement vers la cote...
est ce qu'on reste 3 jours de plus dans le Nord pour avoir plus de chance d'avoir de meilleures températures en journée ?
et réduire le 4ème à Sta Lucia ? donc Swaziland ou pas ?
05/08/14 AÉROPORT CHARLES DE GAULLE 11:00 DIRECTION Johannesburg 06/08/14 Arri 04:35 Johg Nuit Summerset Place Country House Bela bela 07/08/14 Mapungbwe Leokwe camp 08/08/14 Mapungbwe Leokwe camp 09/08/14 Louis Trichardt Mount Azimbo Lodge 10/08/14 kruger Trichardt P Maria 141 kms nuit Shingwedzi RC 71km 11/08/14 kruger nuit Mopani rest camp 12/08/14 kruger Olifants rest camp Morning Walk102 + 30 km 13/08/14 kruger Talamati Bushveld camp 52 + 93km 14/08/14 kruger Lower Sabie( 137 km dir Graskop )Morning drive 15/08/14 Graskop Zur Alten Mine Guest House 16/08/14 Graskop Zur Alten Mine Guest House 17/08/14 ICI 18/08/14 ICI 19/08/14 ICI 20/08/14 ICI 21/08/14 Hluhluwe Imfolozi Game Reserve MPILA 22/08/14 Hluhluwe Imfolozi Game Reserve MPILA 23/08/14 Drakensberg Thendele RN 24/08/14 Drakensberg Thendele RN 25/08/14 Thendele Johan . dép 20:30 vol pour Abu Dhabi nuit Avion 26/08/14 Arrivée 06:50 nuit abu Dhabi Beach Rotana Hotel & Towers 27/08/14 nuit abu Dhabi Beach Rotana Hotel & Towers 28/08/14 nuit abu Dhabi Beach Rotana Hotel & Towers 29/08/14 journée abu Dhabi et départ le soir 02:10 ( 30/08 )
05/08/14 AÉROPORT CHARLES DE GAULLE 11:00 DIRECTION Johannesburg 06/08/14 Arri 04:35 Johg Nuit Summerset Place Country House Bela bela 07/08/14 Mapungbwe Leokwe camp 08/08/14 Mapungbwe Leokwe camp 09/08/14 Louis Trichardt Mount Azimbo Lodge 10/08/14 kruger Trichardt P Maria 141 kms nuit Shingwedzi RC 71km 11/08/14 kruger nuit Mopani rest camp 12/08/14 kruger Olifants rest camp Morning Walk102 + 30 km 13/08/14 kruger Talamati Bushveld camp 52 + 93km 14/08/14 kruger Lower Sabie( 137 km dir Graskop )Morning drive 15/08/14 Graskop Zur Alten Mine Guest House 16/08/14 Graskop Zur Alten Mine Guest House 17/08/14 ICI 18/08/14 ICI 19/08/14 ICI 20/08/14 ICI 21/08/14 Hluhluwe Imfolozi Game Reserve MPILA 22/08/14 Hluhluwe Imfolozi Game Reserve MPILA 23/08/14 Drakensberg Thendele RN 24/08/14 Drakensberg Thendele RN 25/08/14 Thendele Johan . dép 20:30 vol pour Abu Dhabi nuit Avion 26/08/14 Arrivée 06:50 nuit abu Dhabi Beach Rotana Hotel & Towers 27/08/14 nuit abu Dhabi Beach Rotana Hotel & Towers 28/08/14 nuit abu Dhabi Beach Rotana Hotel & Towers 29/08/14 journée abu Dhabi et départ le soir 02:10 ( 30/08 )
Bonjour,
C'est bien comme ça!🙂
Fred n'a peut-être pas eu de chance mais, historiquement, voilà ce que ça donne en Août entre le nord où vous serez (Nelspruit) et la côte où vous irez (St Lucia):
(T°max, T°min, précipitations en mm)
Nelspruit: 24°, 8°, 10mm
St Lucia: 24°, 15°, 30mm
ha oui 😛 c'est la même chose en Fait côté températures
donc ce n'est pas le fait d'arrivée sur la côte mais plutôt la météo du jour sur le pays, je faisais un comparatif Sud de la France et Bretagne, mais ce n'est pas pareil !
😉 Je vais arrêter de me poser des questions ... on verra bien ... 🙂 MERCI
je faisais un comparatif Sud de la France et Bretagne
Il serait valable si tu allais au Cap!
Si les températures diurnes seront équivalentes, les soirées sur la côte seront plus douces.
Je n'ai pas suivi ta préparation: c'est pour cette année?
Oui départ dans 2 mois 🙂 pour l'Afrique du Sud 2014
😊... je me suis plongée dans les carnets et je regarde déjà pour la namibie en 2016 😊
La météo dans le carnet de Fredindique un changement vers la cote...
La première fois que je suis allée en AFS, j'ai eu froid à Santa Lucia. C'était en janvier... 😄
La météo n'est pas une science exacte en AFS comme en France. (En Bretagne, si)
La première fois que je suis allée en AFS, j'ai eu froid à Santa Lucia. C'était en janvier... 😄
La météo n'est pas une science exacte en AFS comme en France. (En Bretagne, si)
J'avoue ... ici c'est prévisible ... ( lol )
😛
La météo dans le carnet de Fredindique un changement vers la cote...
La première fois que je suis allée en AFS, j'ai eu froid à Santa Lucia. C'était en janvier... 😄
La météo n'est pas une science exacte en AFS comme en France. (En Bretagne, si)
C'est pas sympa....😎😎
La première fois que je suis allée en AFS, j'ai eu froid à Santa Lucia. C'était en janvier... 😄
La météo n'est pas une science exacte en AFS comme en France. (En Bretagne, si)
C'est pas sympa....😎😎
Laisse, c'est la douche normande qui se moque du breizh bathing.😉
Il est vrai que Normandie et Bretagne ont un point commun climatique...
Il aurait peut-être été logique d'unir ces 2 contrées lors de la grande réforme territoriale.
Bretadie ? Nortagne ?
(Un bémol sur l'intégration des bonnets rouges au futur ensemble...🤪)
Il aurait peut-être été logique d'unir ces 2 contrées lors de la grande réforme territoriale.
Bretadie ? Nortagne ?
(Un bémol sur l'intégration des bonnets rouges au futur ensemble...🤪)
Bretadie ? Nortagne ?
Compliqué, et tout le monde serait frustré. Il faudrait du nouveau: Attilou? Voitila?
(Un bémol sur l'intégration des bonnets rouges au futur ensemble...🤪)
Tu vois comme vous êtes! Exclure nos libérateurs (je parle de ceux du XVIIè) du joug fiscal est hors de question! Vous n'allez pas nous refaire le coup des invasions, hein!?
Compliqué, et tout le monde serait frustré. Il faudrait du nouveau: Attilou? Voitila?
(Un bémol sur l'intégration des bonnets rouges au futur ensemble...🤪)
Tu vois comme vous êtes! Exclure nos libérateurs (je parle de ceux du XVIIè) du joug fiscal est hors de question! Vous n'allez pas nous refaire le coup des invasions, hein!?
Il faudrait du nouveau
Pluiedie ?
Cidrie ?
Beurrie ?
C'est consensuel ça, non ?😄
Pluiedie ?
Cidrie ?
Beurrie ?
C'est consensuel ça, non ?😄
Il est vrai que Normandie et Bretagne ont un point commun climatique...
Il aurait peut-être été logique d'unir ces 2 contrées lors de la grande réforme territoriale.
Bretadie ? Nortagne ?
(Un bémol sur l'intégration des bonnets rouges au futur ensemble...🤪)
Il n'y a que ça d'ailleurs non ? Vu qu'en Normandie il y a pas de cochons !! Enfin des porcins d'élevage...
M'enfin vu que la Picardie et la Champagne Ardennes vont convoler et qu'une ministre va avoir une région de 700 kilomètres de long..Why not la Normandie et la Bretagne !!😎
Il aurait peut-être été logique d'unir ces 2 contrées lors de la grande réforme territoriale.
Bretadie ? Nortagne ?
(Un bémol sur l'intégration des bonnets rouges au futur ensemble...🤪)
Il n'y a que ça d'ailleurs non ? Vu qu'en Normandie il y a pas de cochons !! Enfin des porcins d'élevage...
M'enfin vu que la Picardie et la Champagne Ardennes vont convoler et qu'une ministre va avoir une région de 700 kilomètres de long..Why not la Normandie et la Bretagne !!😎
Lundi c'est le grand départ
dernières mises au point , je viens de passer un appel chez " location de voiture " qui m'a vendu une location de voiture chez autoescape ... qui lui me dirige chez hertz ! pack premium ! donc j'ai tout de même demandé pour information la somme qui sera prelevée le jour J et on vient de me confirmer une " empreinte de 1400€ sur la carte bancaire ;) donc SOMME de 1400€ PAS PRELEVEE MAIS QUI DESCEND LE PLAFOND MENSUEL de ce même montant ( heureusement qu'on est au début de mois donc remise à zero, mais il fallait le savoir ... on aura pas de soucis ( j'ai moi ma carte aussi ) ... mais comme il faut que la carte bancaire soit au nom du conducteur principal ... pas forcement possible d'utiliser d'autres moyens de paiement ... mon mari a une carte mastercard plafond 2300€ POUR LE DEBUT DE MOIS ça va ... ensuite et du coup ... je ne sais pas le montant de la somme prélevée en PLUS je vais devoir retéléphoner :( car je n'ai eu qu'un soucis a ce moment LA ... savoir si mon plafond est remis à 0 en début de mois ou si c'est mois courant ... je le note ici car ça pourrai servir pour qqun qui a une carte VISA avec un plafond Mensuel et qui va louer vers le 15 du mois s'il a fait des dépenses courantes de + de 900€ ... impossible de payer la carte sera bloquée ... pour moi c'est remise à 0 au 1er du mois ... ouf .... reste qu'il faut forcement partir avec une cartes avec une autorisation + grosse, pour le conducteur principal ... des petites choses que des petits voyageurs ( sans habitude de location ) : On ne va pas y penser forcement ... c'est le même principe quand on va prendre de l'essence même pour un cout de 100€ réel une empreinte plus importante ( et inconnue) charge le plafond ;) ... il faut que j'appelle pour savoir la somme prelevée en plus de cette empreinte ... ...
dernières mises au point , je viens de passer un appel chez " location de voiture " qui m'a vendu une location de voiture chez autoescape ... qui lui me dirige chez hertz ! pack premium ! donc j'ai tout de même demandé pour information la somme qui sera prelevée le jour J et on vient de me confirmer une " empreinte de 1400€ sur la carte bancaire ;) donc SOMME de 1400€ PAS PRELEVEE MAIS QUI DESCEND LE PLAFOND MENSUEL de ce même montant ( heureusement qu'on est au début de mois donc remise à zero, mais il fallait le savoir ... on aura pas de soucis ( j'ai moi ma carte aussi ) ... mais comme il faut que la carte bancaire soit au nom du conducteur principal ... pas forcement possible d'utiliser d'autres moyens de paiement ... mon mari a une carte mastercard plafond 2300€ POUR LE DEBUT DE MOIS ça va ... ensuite et du coup ... je ne sais pas le montant de la somme prélevée en PLUS je vais devoir retéléphoner :( car je n'ai eu qu'un soucis a ce moment LA ... savoir si mon plafond est remis à 0 en début de mois ou si c'est mois courant ... je le note ici car ça pourrai servir pour qqun qui a une carte VISA avec un plafond Mensuel et qui va louer vers le 15 du mois s'il a fait des dépenses courantes de + de 900€ ... impossible de payer la carte sera bloquée ... pour moi c'est remise à 0 au 1er du mois ... ouf .... reste qu'il faut forcement partir avec une cartes avec une autorisation + grosse, pour le conducteur principal ... des petites choses que des petits voyageurs ( sans habitude de location ) : On ne va pas y penser forcement ... c'est le même principe quand on va prendre de l'essence même pour un cout de 100€ réel une empreinte plus importante ( et inconnue) charge le plafond ;) ... il faut que j'appelle pour savoir la somme prelevée en plus de cette empreinte ... ...
je viens de recevoir de chez "location de voiture " le récapitulatif de la location à imprimer pour présenter au retrait du véhicule + des conseils pdf sur l'afrique du sud concernant les régles de circulation + un autre pdf avec petit texte avec la traduction en anglais des choses principales à dire au loueur ! j’apprécie bcp ! mon anglais n'étant pas top ! + PDF CHECK LIST retrait BRAVO Franchement j'éspère qu'ils sont aussi réactifs si problème sur place ;) Mais là NICKEL
Bonjour,
sinon pour le plafond la visa premier coûte un peu plus cher mais le plafond est nettement plus haut donc moins de soucis(7700 de mémoire), mais là c'est trop tard 😕. Sinon je vois que vous avez Hertz, petite remarque : J'espère pour vous que vous n'allez pas avoir la miss pète-sec (reconnaissable une jeune blonde) au comptoir de Hertz Joburg airport, car là franchement ça commence mal (débit de parole hallucinant, pas un regard, pas un sourire, etc) et je l'ai vu au retour du véhicule toujours aussi "charmante"😏😏
Bon voyage !
sinon pour le plafond la visa premier coûte un peu plus cher mais le plafond est nettement plus haut donc moins de soucis(7700 de mémoire), mais là c'est trop tard 😕. Sinon je vois que vous avez Hertz, petite remarque : J'espère pour vous que vous n'allez pas avoir la miss pète-sec (reconnaissable une jeune blonde) au comptoir de Hertz Joburg airport, car là franchement ça commence mal (débit de parole hallucinant, pas un regard, pas un sourire, etc) et je l'ai vu au retour du véhicule toujours aussi "charmante"😏😏
Bon voyage !
Carnets : Namibie en camping car, l'Est de l'Afrique du Sud, du KTP au Kaokoland en 4x4, la Norvège en hiver 2x, l'Ecosse en hiver, la Namibie avec remorque, l'Islande en camping car en juin, le tout avec 4 enfants, dans le profil https://voyageforum.com/v.f?membre=Caperam;
POSITIVONS ça va aller :) comme tout est déjà payé :) depuis la France ... ( et puis j'ai la mienne et du cash ) tout est BON ... DEMAIN GRAND départ ... la seule chose demain matin avant de partir je dois téléphoner à mon assureur ! savoir si l'assurance PAI est un doublon avec un de nos contrats 🤪 ... j'ai zapé ça :( ... Est ce que je dois la prendre sur place l'assurance PAI ?
Le contrat souscrit : - Multirisque : zéro franchise - Contre le vol : zéro franchise - Bris de glace et Pneus - Responsabilité civile : 2 million EUR mais pas PAI 😕
QQ'un a un avis ?
Le contrat souscrit : - Multirisque : zéro franchise - Contre le vol : zéro franchise - Bris de glace et Pneus - Responsabilité civile : 2 million EUR mais pas PAI 😕
QQ'un a un avis ?
Heu je fais pas exprès, mais avec une visa premier tu as inclus cette assurance, 😉 sauf si 4x4 ou camping-car.
Bon, concrètement pour toi si tu veux l'avoir il faut la prendre chez Hertz demain à Joburg.
Carnets : Namibie en camping car, l'Est de l'Afrique du Sud, du KTP au Kaokoland en 4x4, la Norvège en hiver 2x, l'Ecosse en hiver, la Namibie avec remorque, l'Islande en camping car en juin, le tout avec 4 enfants, dans le profil https://voyageforum.com/v.f?membre=Caperam;
😛 😇 C'est un sésame magique la visa Premier ... est ce que le fait d'avoir payé les billets d'avion avec ....offre cette assurance pendant le voyage ?
même si la location de la voiture est faite avec une autre carte ( à cause du nom du porteur de la carte ) ?
est ce que le fait d'avoir payé les billets d'avion avec ....offre cette assurance pendant le voyage ?
euh moi pas comprendre 🤪
pour la loc de voiture il faut bien sûr que la loc soit faite avec la visa 1°
euh moi pas comprendre 🤪
pour la loc de voiture il faut bien sûr que la loc soit faite avec la visa 1°
Carnets : Namibie en camping car, l'Est de l'Afrique du Sud, du KTP au Kaokoland en 4x4, la Norvège en hiver 2x, l'Ecosse en hiver, la Namibie avec remorque, l'Islande en camping car en juin, le tout avec 4 enfants, dans le profil https://voyageforum.com/v.f?membre=Caperam;
La location de voiture est effectuée avec la carte bancaire de mon mari celle ci est une Mastercard Crédit Agricole et le plafond est limité :( on a payé avec celle ci pour que le nom de la location soit identique avec celui de sa carte ... car c'est lui le conducteur ...
c'est bon pour le plafond en fait car remise 0 début de mois ... mon soucis n'est pas l'argent sur place mais le plafond qui bloque la carte ( je viens de me relire et j'avoue que ce n'est pas bien expliqué ) 😊
par contre pour les billets d'avions ils sont achetés avec ma carte bancaire qui est une visa premier Crédit Agricole ...
si je regarde cette page : donc ce voyage est sous assurance VISA PREMIER mais peut être aussi pour LA LOCATION? peut être que la PAI est incluse en fait ... demain je vais voir avec mon assureur au Crédit Agricole !
par contre pour les billets d'avions ils sont achetés avec ma carte bancaire qui est une visa premier Crédit Agricole ...
si je regarde cette page : donc ce voyage est sous assurance VISA PREMIER mais peut être aussi pour LA LOCATION? peut être que la PAI est incluse en fait ... demain je vais voir avec mon assureur au Crédit Agricole !
😊 DE RETOUR d'AFS... Un temps SUPERBE ... Safari = on a vu les big 5, Piscine , rando et Plage .... et 1 seul jour de pluie :) entre 25°C et 30°C en journée, le matin il faut prendre un petit pull on a eu un temps idéal :) 15°C +/- au réveil , un peu plus frais le matin dans le drakensberg , mais la journée en tshirt sous le soleil pour la rando !
Un voyage superbe ... je vais essayer de faire un petit récit dans les jours qui viennent.
Passer par les Émirats Arabes Unis est une très bonne idée, la chaleur est supportable 40°C fin Aout ( entre piscine et ... piscine et centre commercial) c'est le TOP ! Parc Ferrari et yas waterworld ... le petit plus pour finir les vacances pour le même prix ( billets avec etihad )
Un voyage superbe ... je vais essayer de faire un petit récit dans les jours qui viennent.
Passer par les Émirats Arabes Unis est une très bonne idée, la chaleur est supportable 40°C fin Aout ( entre piscine et ... piscine et centre commercial) c'est le TOP ! Parc Ferrari et yas waterworld ... le petit plus pour finir les vacances pour le même prix ( billets avec etihad )
salut Valérie,
J'ai vu que tu es passée par Etihad comme compagnie pour l'AFS. Peux-tu me dire ce que tu en as pensé?
J'ai vu que tu es passée par Etihad comme compagnie pour l'AFS. Peux-tu me dire ce que tu en as pensé?
Nord Chili, NOA, Sud Lipez, La Paz août 2012 https://voyageforum.com/forum/mois_dans_andes_peripeties_en_altitude_D5526293/
Apologie du southwest en hiver https://voyageforum.com/forum/apologie_sud-ouest_etats-unis_en_hiver_D5851267/
Impressions d'Afrique et de Namibie
Très bien :) il faut se mettre à l'heure car 2 heures de dif. avec la France ... ce n'est pas du retard mais bien l'heure sur place ;) sur abou dhabi ... La nourriture est " bof " mais on n'est pas là pour ça ;) ... si je dois reprendre l'avion c'est sans soucis que je passerai encore pas cette compagnie 😉 ... pas mal de films en Français, des jeux ... les hôtesses disponibles , aimables et souriantes ... les 4 avions que nous avons eu n’étaient pas anciens ! bonne organisation ! AVIS POSITIF dans l'ensemble.
Merci pour ton avis favorable sur Etihad.
Je m'interrogeais sur le choix des compagnies pour l'AfS.
Cela ouvrira le choix au moment de prendre les billets.
Nord Chili, NOA, Sud Lipez, La Paz août 2012 https://voyageforum.com/forum/mois_dans_andes_peripeties_en_altitude_D5526293/
Apologie du southwest en hiver https://voyageforum.com/forum/apologie_sud-ouest_etats-unis_en_hiver_D5851267/
Impressions d'Afrique et de Namibie
Bonjour,
Au Swaziland j'irais à Mkhaya. Les 2 derniers voyageurs qui y sont allés cet été ont été ravis...Et moi aussi, il y a qq années maintenant.
Bon voyage
michel
Au Swaziland j'irais à Mkhaya. Les 2 derniers voyageurs qui y sont allés cet été ont été ravis...Et moi aussi, il y a qq années maintenant.
Bon voyage
michel
michel85200
Bonjour,
Au Swaziland j'irais à Mkhaya. Les 2 derniers voyageurs qui y sont allés cet été ont été ravis...Et moi aussi, il y a qq années maintenant.
Bon voyage
michel
A vue de nez, je dirais qu'il est déjà rentré...😉
Au Swaziland j'irais à Mkhaya. Les 2 derniers voyageurs qui y sont allés cet été ont été ravis...Et moi aussi, il y a qq années maintenant.
Bon voyage
michel
A vue de nez, je dirais qu'il est déjà rentré...😉
Erwan
La vie est belle ! La vie est belle ! Je me tue à vous le dire disait la fleur. Et elle meurt ( J.Prévert)
Salut Airone,
A vue de nez, je dirais qu'il est déjà rentré...
Mais mon pôvre doctè, les nez n'ont jamais rien vu!!!!! Même avec des lunettes!!!!!
Blague à part, ta prépa de voyage avance? Tu ne prévois pas de laisser tomber toi aussi, l'espère.
Que penses-tu de l'épidémie d'ébola qui se propage au nord ouest de l'Afrique? Les 2 patients guéris qui ont été applaudis lors de leur sortie de l'hôpital, laissent-ils filtrer un espoir de voir la fin de ce cauchemar?
A bientôt!
A vue de nez, je dirais qu'il est déjà rentré...
Mais mon pôvre doctè, les nez n'ont jamais rien vu!!!!! Même avec des lunettes!!!!!
Blague à part, ta prépa de voyage avance? Tu ne prévois pas de laisser tomber toi aussi, l'espère.
Que penses-tu de l'épidémie d'ébola qui se propage au nord ouest de l'Afrique? Les 2 patients guéris qui ont été applaudis lors de leur sortie de l'hôpital, laissent-ils filtrer un espoir de voir la fin de ce cauchemar?
A bientôt!
Nord Chili, NOA, Sud Lipez, La Paz août 2012 https://voyageforum.com/forum/mois_dans_andes_peripeties_en_altitude_D5526293/
Apologie du southwest en hiver https://voyageforum.com/forum/apologie_sud-ouest_etats-unis_en_hiver_D5851267/
Impressions d'Afrique et de Namibie
Salut Airone,
Blague à part, ta prépa de voyage avance? Tu ne prévois pas de laisser tomber toi aussi, l'espère.
Que penses-tu de l'épidémie d'ébola qui se propage au nord ouest de l'Afrique? Les 2 patients guéris qui ont été applaudis lors de leur sortie de l'hôpital, laissent-ils filtrer un espoir de voir la fin de ce cauchemar?
A bientôt!
Elle avance trop vite la prépa...c'est quasi bouclé ! 😮 jamais vu ça ! Dingue ces pays où il faut réserver un an à l'avance, et c'est VRAIMENT 1 an à l'avance : pour les camps du KTP, j'ai pu réserver tout juste en m'y prenant à 350 jours de la location, tout était quasiment parti ! J'ai cru que c'était une technique de vante, mais non : en vérifiant à postériori, les dates où j'y vais sont fully booked...🤪 Va pas rester grand chose pour l'improvisation...
Blague à part, ta prépa de voyage avance? Tu ne prévois pas de laisser tomber toi aussi, l'espère.
Que penses-tu de l'épidémie d'ébola qui se propage au nord ouest de l'Afrique? Les 2 patients guéris qui ont été applaudis lors de leur sortie de l'hôpital, laissent-ils filtrer un espoir de voir la fin de ce cauchemar?
A bientôt!
Elle avance trop vite la prépa...c'est quasi bouclé ! 😮 jamais vu ça ! Dingue ces pays où il faut réserver un an à l'avance, et c'est VRAIMENT 1 an à l'avance : pour les camps du KTP, j'ai pu réserver tout juste en m'y prenant à 350 jours de la location, tout était quasiment parti ! J'ai cru que c'était une technique de vante, mais non : en vérifiant à postériori, les dates où j'y vais sont fully booked...🤪 Va pas rester grand chose pour l'improvisation...
Erwan
La vie est belle ! La vie est belle ! Je me tue à vous le dire disait la fleur. Et elle meurt ( J.Prévert)
Pour réserver tout juste, il fallait juste la jouer modeste... 🤪
Ah mais je m'insurge ! Ce sont eux qui se ventent, pas moi !!! 😏
Ah mais je m'insurge ! Ce sont eux qui se ventent, pas moi !!! 😏
Erwan
La vie est belle ! La vie est belle ! Je me tue à vous le dire disait la fleur. Et elle meurt ( J.Prévert)
Couvre toi bien alors ! 😎
Oui, bof, en même temps, le vant ne souffle pas trop fort et il est plutôt sec dans ces régions, c'est très supportable...😐
Oui, bof, en même temps, le vant ne souffle pas trop fort et il est plutôt sec dans ces régions, c'est très supportable...😐
Erwan
La vie est belle ! La vie est belle ! Je me tue à vous le dire disait la fleur. Et elle meurt ( J.Prévert)
Que penses-tu de l'épidémie d'ébola qui se propage au nord ouest de l'Afrique?
Les 2 patients guéris qui ont été applaudis lors de leur sortie de l'hôpital, laissent-ils filtrer un espoir de voir la fin de ce cauchemar?
A bientôt!
Très clairement, si les labo de recherche occidentaux et l'industrie pharmaceutique se penche sur le problème, il devrait être possible de prévenir et traiter ce virus connu depuis très longtemps. Mais vu que ça ne touchais que des africains désargentés, ils s'en foutaient royalement : pas de retour sur investissement. Maintenant , médiatisation aidant, tout le monde commence à avoir les boules, ça débloque bien des obstacles, surtout que l'urgence permet de faire les essais thérapeutiques au mépris de toutes les règles de déontologie comme par exemple l'obtention du consentement éclairé des patients qui participent aux essais.🤪 Un traitement devrait donc voir le jour assez rapidement et sans doute un vaccin préventif.
Tant que les blancs n'ont pas peur des maladies des africains, les africains meurent de leurs maladies...😕
Bref, on verra bien, je commence à être optimiste, mais pour en avoir parlé plusieurs fois avec des amis, j'étais convaincu depuis plusieurs mois que nous sous estimions largement cette épidémie, une épidémie Ebola, c'était habituellement quelques dizaines de morts et ça restait très localisé, ça fait déjà un bon moment que ce stade a été dépassé sans que personne ne réagisse; maintenant l'épidémie atteint le Sénégal ou le Nigéria où pas mal d'expat travaillent dans l'industrie pétrolière notamment, le risque d'extension à l'Europe ou l'Amérique devient réel, alors ça bouge.
A bientôt!
Très clairement, si les labo de recherche occidentaux et l'industrie pharmaceutique se penche sur le problème, il devrait être possible de prévenir et traiter ce virus connu depuis très longtemps. Mais vu que ça ne touchais que des africains désargentés, ils s'en foutaient royalement : pas de retour sur investissement. Maintenant , médiatisation aidant, tout le monde commence à avoir les boules, ça débloque bien des obstacles, surtout que l'urgence permet de faire les essais thérapeutiques au mépris de toutes les règles de déontologie comme par exemple l'obtention du consentement éclairé des patients qui participent aux essais.🤪 Un traitement devrait donc voir le jour assez rapidement et sans doute un vaccin préventif.
Tant que les blancs n'ont pas peur des maladies des africains, les africains meurent de leurs maladies...😕
Bref, on verra bien, je commence à être optimiste, mais pour en avoir parlé plusieurs fois avec des amis, j'étais convaincu depuis plusieurs mois que nous sous estimions largement cette épidémie, une épidémie Ebola, c'était habituellement quelques dizaines de morts et ça restait très localisé, ça fait déjà un bon moment que ce stade a été dépassé sans que personne ne réagisse; maintenant l'épidémie atteint le Sénégal ou le Nigéria où pas mal d'expat travaillent dans l'industrie pétrolière notamment, le risque d'extension à l'Europe ou l'Amérique devient réel, alors ça bouge.
Erwan
La vie est belle ! La vie est belle ! Je me tue à vous le dire disait la fleur. Et elle meurt ( J.Prévert)
salut Airone,
Tant que les blancs n'ont pas peur des maladies des africains, les africains meurent de leurs maladies...
Hélas!
maintenant l'épidémie atteint le Sénégal ou le Nigéria où pas mal d'expat travaillent dans l'industrie pétrolière notamment, le risque d'extension à l'Europe ou l'Amérique devient réel, alors ça bouge.
Heureusement qu'il y a des expats dans ces pays là!!!!! Du coup les grosses firmes internationales se sentent concernées!!!!
Un traitement devrait donc voir le jour assez rapidement et sans doute un vaccin préventif.
L'espoir renait alors. Tant mieux!
Tant que les blancs n'ont pas peur des maladies des africains, les africains meurent de leurs maladies...
Hélas!
maintenant l'épidémie atteint le Sénégal ou le Nigéria où pas mal d'expat travaillent dans l'industrie pétrolière notamment, le risque d'extension à l'Europe ou l'Amérique devient réel, alors ça bouge.
Heureusement qu'il y a des expats dans ces pays là!!!!! Du coup les grosses firmes internationales se sentent concernées!!!!
Un traitement devrait donc voir le jour assez rapidement et sans doute un vaccin préventif.
L'espoir renait alors. Tant mieux!
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salut kola oeil de lynx,
Pas une faute de t'échappe, heureusement pour nous qui nous régalons de tes jeux de mots. Et quand Airone te donne la réplique, c'est de la délectation à l'état pur. Merci pour ces moments......volés au détour d'un post de voyage.
Pas une faute de t'échappe, heureusement pour nous qui nous régalons de tes jeux de mots. Et quand Airone te donne la réplique, c'est de la délectation à l'état pur. Merci pour ces moments......volés au détour d'un post de voyage.
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salut kola oeil de lynx,
Pas une faute de t'échappe, heureusement pour nous qui nous régalons de tes jeux de mots. Et quand Airone te donne la réplique, c'est de la délectation à l'état pur. Merci pour ces moments......volés au détour d'un post de voyage.
😊 D'ailleurs , vu qu'il semble qu'elle s'ennuie, je lui ai laissé une copie à corriger ( que je ne peux plus corriger, vu que je l'ai rendue depuis trop longtemps...😊)
Très clairement, si les labo de recherche occidentaux et l'industrie pharmaceutique se penche sur le problème, il devrait être possible de prévenir et traiter ce virus connu depuis très longtemps. Mais vu que ça ne touchais que des africains désargentés, ils s'en foutaient royalement : pas de retour sur investissement. Maintenant , médiatisation aidant, tout le monde commence à avoir les boules, ça débloque bien des obstacles, surtout que l'urgence permet de faire les essais thérapeutiques au mépris de toutes les règles de déontologie comme par exemple l'obtention du consentement éclairé des patients qui participent aux essais.🤪 Un traitement devrait donc voir le jour assez rapidement et sans doute un vaccin préventif.
Tant que les blancs n'ont pas peur des maladies des africains, les africains meurent de leurs maladies...😕
Bref, on verra bien, je commence à être optimiste, mais pour en avoir parlé plusieurs fois avec des amis, j'étais convaincu depuis plusieurs mois que nous sous estimions largement cette épidémie, une épidémie Ebola, c'était habituellement quelques dizaines de morts et ça restait très localisé, ça fait déjà un bon moment que ce stade a été dépassé sans que personne ne réagisse; maintenant l'épidémie atteint le Sénégal ou le Nigéria où pas mal d'expat travaillent dans l'industrie pétrolière notamment, le risque d'extension à l'Europe ou l'Amérique devient réel, alors ça bouge.
Pas une faute de t'échappe, heureusement pour nous qui nous régalons de tes jeux de mots. Et quand Airone te donne la réplique, c'est de la délectation à l'état pur. Merci pour ces moments......volés au détour d'un post de voyage.
😊 D'ailleurs , vu qu'il semble qu'elle s'ennuie, je lui ai laissé une copie à corriger ( que je ne peux plus corriger, vu que je l'ai rendue depuis trop longtemps...😊)
Très clairement, si les labo de recherche occidentaux et l'industrie pharmaceutique se penche sur le problème, il devrait être possible de prévenir et traiter ce virus connu depuis très longtemps. Mais vu que ça ne touchais que des africains désargentés, ils s'en foutaient royalement : pas de retour sur investissement. Maintenant , médiatisation aidant, tout le monde commence à avoir les boules, ça débloque bien des obstacles, surtout que l'urgence permet de faire les essais thérapeutiques au mépris de toutes les règles de déontologie comme par exemple l'obtention du consentement éclairé des patients qui participent aux essais.🤪 Un traitement devrait donc voir le jour assez rapidement et sans doute un vaccin préventif.
Tant que les blancs n'ont pas peur des maladies des africains, les africains meurent de leurs maladies...😕
Bref, on verra bien, je commence à être optimiste, mais pour en avoir parlé plusieurs fois avec des amis, j'étais convaincu depuis plusieurs mois que nous sous estimions largement cette épidémie, une épidémie Ebola, c'était habituellement quelques dizaines de morts et ça restait très localisé, ça fait déjà un bon moment que ce stade a été dépassé sans que personne ne réagisse; maintenant l'épidémie atteint le Sénégal ou le Nigéria où pas mal d'expat travaillent dans l'industrie pétrolière notamment, le risque d'extension à l'Europe ou l'Amérique devient réel, alors ça bouge.
Erwan
La vie est belle ! La vie est belle ! Je me tue à vous le dire disait la fleur. Et elle meurt ( J.Prévert)
Pas une faute de t'échappe,
Moi non plus, je ne peux plus corriger 😊
Mais je ne suis pas sure que Kola relève les fautes parce qu'elle s'ennuie. Je suis certaine que cela lui permet de mettre en exergue son art des mots, sa maitrise de la langue française, pour mon plus grand bonheur.
Moi non plus, je ne peux plus corriger 😊
Mais je ne suis pas sure que Kola relève les fautes parce qu'elle s'ennuie. Je suis certaine que cela lui permet de mettre en exergue son art des mots, sa maitrise de la langue française, pour mon plus grand bonheur.
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Mais si bien sûr, tiens, là , tel que tu me vois , je m'emmerde...
Mais je ne suis pas sure que Kola relève les fautes parce qu'elle s'ennuie.
😛
Mais je ne suis pas sure que Kola relève les fautes parce qu'elle s'ennuie.
😛
Erwan
La vie est belle ! La vie est belle ! Je me tue à vous le dire disait la fleur. Et elle meurt ( J.Prévert)
Yé man, mais qu'est-ce que t'as Doudou dis donc.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jv5wBcJvgvE
Mais si bien sûr, tiens, là , tel que tu me vois , je m'emmerde...
Comment? Tu t'ennuies!!!!!!! Toi le médecin incontournable!!!! N'as-tu pas une vie à sauver, une âme en détresse à soigner, un petit bobo à panser? 😄 😄
N'y-a-t-il pas un moustique porteur du chikungunya qui m'aurait piqué que tu pourrais sauver in extremis???? En passant, est-ce que je t'avais dis que j'avais trouvé ta blague excellente?
Mais je ne suis pas sure que Kola relève les fautes parce qu'elle s'ennuie
Là, tu fais ton prof de français, mais il faut aller plus loin et y glisser subtilement un jeu de mot, alors......?
A bientôt!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jv5wBcJvgvE
Mais si bien sûr, tiens, là , tel que tu me vois , je m'emmerde...
Comment? Tu t'ennuies!!!!!!! Toi le médecin incontournable!!!! N'as-tu pas une vie à sauver, une âme en détresse à soigner, un petit bobo à panser? 😄 😄
N'y-a-t-il pas un moustique porteur du chikungunya qui m'aurait piqué que tu pourrais sauver in extremis???? En passant, est-ce que je t'avais dis que j'avais trouvé ta blague excellente?
Mais je ne suis pas sure que Kola relève les fautes parce qu'elle s'ennuie
Là, tu fais ton prof de français, mais il faut aller plus loin et y glisser subtilement un jeu de mot, alors......?
A bientôt!
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mais il faut aller plus loin et y glisser subtilement un jeu de mot, alors......?
Sûr?
Mais je ne suis pas sure...
J'espère...😊😉
Une acception peu fréquente de "sure": http://www.cnrtl.fr/definition/sure (On n'est pas totalement HS puisque le titre de la discussion parle d'EAU et que l'eau peut être sure😇)
Sûr?
Mais je ne suis pas sure...
J'espère...😊😉
Une acception peu fréquente de "sure": http://www.cnrtl.fr/definition/sure (On n'est pas totalement HS puisque le titre de la discussion parle d'EAU et que l'eau peut être sure😇)
Ah mon voyajoueur à moi,
Merci de venir participer à la joute oratoire et à poursuivre les tirades!!!!
J'espère que Valérie ne nous en voudra pas de détourner ainsi son post dont le but initial était atteint (ou éteint!!!!!!!). 😏
Et au fait, je te rassure, je ne suis sûre de ne pas être sure tout en étant sur un petit nuage ou j'assure!!!
Merci de venir participer à la joute oratoire et à poursuivre les tirades!!!!
J'espère que Valérie ne nous en voudra pas de détourner ainsi son post dont le but initial était atteint (ou éteint!!!!!!!). 😏
Et au fait, je te rassure, je ne suis sûre de ne pas être sure tout en étant sur un petit nuage ou j'assure!!!
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Je viens ici avec une question sur quel Parc pour un safari de 3 jours au Keyna ?
Après 20 jours en Ouganda, je retrouve mon père pour un safari de 3 jours (cela lui convient). Nous nous retrouvons à Nairobi et nous avons la journée pour nous deplacer dans un Parc (le plus loin de Nairobi pour éviter la foule?) et y passer 4 nuits avant de retourner à la capitale pour la France.
J'aurais souhaité vos recommendations car je lis beaucoup de choses três interessantes sur ce forum.
Merci,
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Hi there,
Hope the pros are on the lookout!
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Arrival either in PE or George. The pros know I’m somewhat familiar with the area... that I don’t camp... that my accommodations can be simple and remote, self-catering but with basic comforts... that I’m looking for spots that are a bit off the beaten path... in a relaxed mode... From George: Late arrival... need some rest... Herolds Bay from George to the N1. Tsitsikamma is catching my eye (Storms River)... with or without a stop in Knysna. Question: What’s the current condition of the pass from Knysna to Uniondale? R339. And while I’m at it, the condition of the R340. Tsitsikamma, Knysna, and my questions still apply if arriving in PE.
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March or May 2027. Around 15 days in the Western Cape, then 15 days in the southern KNP.
Arrival either in PE or George. The pros know I’m somewhat familiar with the area... that I don’t camp... that my accommodations can be simple and remote, self-catering but with basic comforts... that I’m looking for spots that are a bit off the beaten path... in a relaxed mode... From George: Late arrival... need some rest... Herolds Bay from George to the N1. Tsitsikamma is catching my eye (Storms River)... with or without a stop in Knysna. Question: What’s the current condition of the pass from Knysna to Uniondale? R339. And while I’m at it, the condition of the R340. Tsitsikamma, Knysna, and my questions still apply if arriving in PE.
Is the Swartberg still closed? Any recommendations for accommodation in Prince Albert? If I cross the escarpment, I’ll continue via Anysberg NR, Touwsrivier... any thoughts? From there... Tankwa Karoo or Mount Cedar (or both). Then heading back down to the coast... the highlands of Hermanus or Kogelberg NR (any opinions on the latter?).
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A more classic route along the coast...
If I arrive (fairly late) in PE... any ideas for accommodation in that little area? Given that Nyathi Camp is winking at me... (For context... a while back, I stayed at Riverbend (same Addo sector, private concession)... and I visited the ruins of that abandoned lodge at the time, which has clearly been renovated since... located in a very quiet part of Addo...). Any feedback from the pros? Well, that’s about it... I’m open to any other tips or advice!
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I’m planning a potential trip to Namibia for a classic circuit in April 2027.
I’m surprised by how expensive the accommodations inside the parks are—really steep! Is it possible to stay outside the parks but still close enough to enjoy the game drives?
Do you have any recommendations for more reasonably priced lodging? I’m okay with spending 200 to 250 € per night.
No camping—the friend I’m traveling with absolutely refuses 😉, but maybe upgraded tents would work.
Thanks in advance, and have a great evening! !
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Have a great day
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I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
Hi everyone!
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old. We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions: - How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?). - Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice. - I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that. - Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas! Gabriel
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old. We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions: - How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?). - Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice. - I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that. - Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas! Gabriel
Hi everyone!
I’m looking for a French-speaking local guide for July 2019. Would anyone have a contact there? No tour operators, please.
Thanks in advance!
I’m looking for a French-speaking local guide for July 2019. Would anyone have a contact there? No tour operators, please.
Thanks in advance!
Hello,
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg. This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights). D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights) Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai). D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights). D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE). D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6. If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too. Thanks! 🙂
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg. This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights). D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights) Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai). D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights). D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE). D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6. If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too. Thanks! 🙂
Hi
Any feedback on the agency Mon Guide Zanzibar?
Hi everyone,
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland. Could you share any tips on: - the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar) - your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours - reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Thanks in advance!
Albin
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland. Could you share any tips on: - the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar) - your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours - reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Thanks in advance!
Albin
Hi everyone, I’m here to get some advice on visiting KRUGER Park.
From what I’ve gathered through my reading, I understand there are two ways to visit the park:
- Independently with your own vehicle
=> Do you drive all day?
- By booking with a professional
=> Safari early in the morning and late in the afternoon. But what do you do in between?
When it comes to accommodations, the options are: - Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional - Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive - Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me. Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works... Thanks to everyone for your help. Bidule 27
When it comes to accommodations, the options are: - Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional - Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive - Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me. Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works... Thanks to everyone for your help. Bidule 27
Hey everyone!
Heading to Namibia in a few days and I just read that the entry fees for all parks in Namibia have skyrocketed. Increases between 86 and 100%, and this has been in effect since April 1st (no joke). Have any of you heard about this, and if so, do you know if it’s actually being enforced?
For example, the fee for Etosha has gone from 150 NAD to 280 NAD per day per person.
Thanks in advance!
Namibia raises park fees by 86 to 100 percent
Namibia raises park fees by 86 to 100 percent
Hello,
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature. 😊🦁
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature. 😊🦁
Hi everyone,
We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa? As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult? We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :) We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend. See you on the road with Doddy
We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa? As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult? We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :) We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend. See you on the road with Doddy
Hi,
I’m starting to plan a great trip for the last three weeks of January 2027 (my first time in South Africa).
After spending a few hours (!) browsing this forum, here’s a rough first draft of my itinerary:
D0 Arrival at JNB D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route) D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this: - Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
Thanks for your help
D0 Arrival at JNB D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route) D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this: - Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
Thanks for your help
Hello everyone,
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective. First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...). That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on. The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start... During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.) The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance. Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page). Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective. First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...). That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on. The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start... During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.) The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance. Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page). Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
Hi there,
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water), – Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places, – Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly, – One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
--- Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments. Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored: – services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water), – hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments, – visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly, – one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment. To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone. Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water), – Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places, – Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly, – One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
--- Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments. Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored: – services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water), – hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments, – visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly, – one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment. To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone. Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Hello,
With so many agencies out there, we're feeling a bit lost. Could you please share your experience—like recommending your agency if you were happy with them—and tell us why, and if possible, what budget we should expect? Feel free to send it in a private message :)
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Thanks so much in advance!
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Thanks so much in advance!
Hi there,
I’ve reached out to a few agencies for a week-long family safari next summer before heading to Zanzibar.
So far, the itinerary looks like this: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?) Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 4: Full day in Tarangire Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome... Thanks
So far, the itinerary looks like this: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?) Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 4: Full day in Tarangire Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome... Thanks
Hi everyone,
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.
Thanks in advance! 😉
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.
Thanks in advance! 😉
hi there
I’m reaching out because I don’t understand how Volcanoes National Park works. I looked at booking for the gorillas, but there’s just the price listed, and the same goes for the Diane Fossey tomb.
So I contacted a hotel in Kinigi, and they told me that for the gorillas, you need a car to get to the park headquarters, and then once you know your group, you need to get from the headquarters to the trekking start point?? Do you confirm this? Is that really how it works? They say the hotel has a driver and it would cost 100 DOLLARS!! I just found out that on top of the permit, there are other fees??? Uhh… Are there other options, knowing I don’t want to rent a 4x4 since I’m traveling alone?
And if I don’t get the gorilla permit but just want to visit the Diane Fossey tomb, is it the same issue? From Kinigi, do you need a 4x4? How far is the tomb from the headquarters? Is it a hike you can do alone OR DO YOU NEED A GUIDE, ON FOOT? By car?? If someone could explain everything to me… and is the DF Foundation different??
If I decide to go through an agency, is it possible in Musanze (which would save me trips) or is it mandatory to go through Kigali? Thanks so much for your help… Best regards
I’m reaching out because I don’t understand how Volcanoes National Park works. I looked at booking for the gorillas, but there’s just the price listed, and the same goes for the Diane Fossey tomb.
So I contacted a hotel in Kinigi, and they told me that for the gorillas, you need a car to get to the park headquarters, and then once you know your group, you need to get from the headquarters to the trekking start point?? Do you confirm this? Is that really how it works? They say the hotel has a driver and it would cost 100 DOLLARS!! I just found out that on top of the permit, there are other fees??? Uhh… Are there other options, knowing I don’t want to rent a 4x4 since I’m traveling alone?
And if I don’t get the gorilla permit but just want to visit the Diane Fossey tomb, is it the same issue? From Kinigi, do you need a 4x4? How far is the tomb from the headquarters? Is it a hike you can do alone OR DO YOU NEED A GUIDE, ON FOOT? By car?? If someone could explain everything to me… and is the DF Foundation different??
If I decide to go through an agency, is it possible in Musanze (which would save me trips) or is it mandatory to go through Kigali? Thanks so much for your help… Best regards
Hey everyone,
I’m in the middle of planning a road trip in Southern Africa, and I’m specifically working on the itinerary—especially the distances.
I’ve got the time, but I’m struggling with the transfer days (so much driving just to end up spending the whole day on the road). That’s why I’m trying to analyze travel times, even if it means adding extra stops.
My highlights in Zimbabwe would be: - Hwange - Victoria Falls (and maybe Matusadona) - Mana Pools - Harare - Gonarezhou - Great Zimbabwe
But the distances and travel times seem huge (over 4 hours each time), and I don’t see how to make the drives more chill or shorten them—even if it means adding stops (but which ones?) between each leg.
Would anyone be able to estimate the travel time between these highlights and maybe suggest some nice stops to take breaks?
I’m in the middle of planning a road trip in Southern Africa, and I’m specifically working on the itinerary—especially the distances.
I’ve got the time, but I’m struggling with the transfer days (so much driving just to end up spending the whole day on the road). That’s why I’m trying to analyze travel times, even if it means adding extra stops.
My highlights in Zimbabwe would be: - Hwange - Victoria Falls (and maybe Matusadona) - Mana Pools - Harare - Gonarezhou - Great Zimbabwe
But the distances and travel times seem huge (over 4 hours each time), and I don’t see how to make the drives more chill or shorten them—even if it means adding stops (but which ones?) between each leg.
Would anyone be able to estimate the travel time between these highlights and maybe suggest some nice stops to take breaks?
hi there
I’ve been to Rwanda twice before, in November 1991 and December 1993, mostly for solidarity work. I’m looking into going back this November or December for three weeks, but I’m a bit hesitant when I see the tourist offerings—it’s so far from how I like to travel...
I travel solo using public transport and stay in places like guesthouses (GH), or accommodations run by cooperatives, associations, or religious groups. I love villages, markets, hikes, and local crafts. So far, my searches for these kinds of lodging options haven’t turned up much.
For now, I’m considering visiting (in no particular order):
Butare: Kibeho, Bisesero, Nyanza Ngenda Akagera, Kibungo, Lake Muazi Dian Fossey’s tomb (with the possibility of seeing gorillas) Kibuye??? Is the political situation stable there? Or Cyangugu?
So here are my first questions: -Is French still widely spoken? -Are there lists of the types of accommodations I mentioned above, or places to find that info? -Is what I’m planning doable using public transport? From the towns, are moto-taxis still available to get to villages, sites, and—most importantly—back? -Is it possible to go hiking solo? -Which are the best markets and what days are they held?
I know that’s a lot of questions already, and I really appreciate any relevant answers you can share. Looking forward to exchanging more!
I’ve been to Rwanda twice before, in November 1991 and December 1993, mostly for solidarity work. I’m looking into going back this November or December for three weeks, but I’m a bit hesitant when I see the tourist offerings—it’s so far from how I like to travel...
I travel solo using public transport and stay in places like guesthouses (GH), or accommodations run by cooperatives, associations, or religious groups. I love villages, markets, hikes, and local crafts. So far, my searches for these kinds of lodging options haven’t turned up much.
For now, I’m considering visiting (in no particular order):
Butare: Kibeho, Bisesero, Nyanza Ngenda Akagera, Kibungo, Lake Muazi Dian Fossey’s tomb (with the possibility of seeing gorillas) Kibuye??? Is the political situation stable there? Or Cyangugu?
So here are my first questions: -Is French still widely spoken? -Are there lists of the types of accommodations I mentioned above, or places to find that info? -Is what I’m planning doable using public transport? From the towns, are moto-taxis still available to get to villages, sites, and—most importantly—back? -Is it possible to go hiking solo? -Which are the best markets and what days are they held?
I know that’s a lot of questions already, and I really appreciate any relevant answers you can share. Looking forward to exchanging more!
Hi everyone,
I’m planning my next trip in September, and after two self-drive trips to Botswana last year, I’d love to explore Kruger. Since I’m used to camping, I’m thinking of renting an equipped van from Kitted Africa (a small Suzuki van—thanks Safari Expert!) to sleep in a tent and occasionally in a hut.
Here’s my provisional itinerary, and I’d love to hear your thoughts if you don’t mind. I’ve got 13 nights to plan in Kruger. The rental company is based in Nelspruit.
Entering from the south: 14-15-16.09: 3 nights at Crocodile Bridge or Lower Sabie 17-18-19.09: 3 nights at Skukuza 20-21.09: 2 nights at Satara 22-23-24.09: 3 nights at Olifants 25-26.09: 2 nights at Tamboti or Talamati
Exiting the park on 27.09 via Orpen Gate, then heading to Blyde River Canyon for a night in a hotel or elsewhere. 28.09: Return to Nelspruit, drop off the van, and stay in a hotel. 29.09 (midday): Airlink flight to Johannesburg, then an evening return flight to GVA.
What do you think? Too many nights here, not enough there?
I’ll be traveling solo, I love driving, and I enjoy settling in the middle of nature to listen, observe, and take photos (Botswana was perfect for that).
Thanks in advance! Nicole Photo: Baines Baobab, Botswana, April 2025
I’m planning my next trip in September, and after two self-drive trips to Botswana last year, I’d love to explore Kruger. Since I’m used to camping, I’m thinking of renting an equipped van from Kitted Africa (a small Suzuki van—thanks Safari Expert!) to sleep in a tent and occasionally in a hut.
Here’s my provisional itinerary, and I’d love to hear your thoughts if you don’t mind. I’ve got 13 nights to plan in Kruger. The rental company is based in Nelspruit.
Entering from the south: 14-15-16.09: 3 nights at Crocodile Bridge or Lower Sabie 17-18-19.09: 3 nights at Skukuza 20-21.09: 2 nights at Satara 22-23-24.09: 3 nights at Olifants 25-26.09: 2 nights at Tamboti or Talamati
Exiting the park on 27.09 via Orpen Gate, then heading to Blyde River Canyon for a night in a hotel or elsewhere. 28.09: Return to Nelspruit, drop off the van, and stay in a hotel. 29.09 (midday): Airlink flight to Johannesburg, then an evening return flight to GVA.
What do you think? Too many nights here, not enough there?
I’ll be traveling solo, I love driving, and I enjoy settling in the middle of nature to listen, observe, and take photos (Botswana was perfect for that).
Thanks in advance! Nicole Photo: Baines Baobab, Botswana, April 2025
I’d like to return to Africa and stay in a lodge where I can see animals—not necessarily the Big Five—without needing any transport once I arrive at the lodge, and at a price under $250 per day for two people with full board. The week-long stay is planned for late June into early July. I’m looking for suggestions. Thanks in advance!
Hi, I’d like to travel to Ethiopia as a solo 60-year-old woman, backpacking style, between December 2025 and January 2026.
I’m wondering about the current state of the country: unrest, safety concerns, etc.
Government websites advise against going, saying it’s too dangerous.
But I’m skeptical—they tend to be overly cautious.
So I’m looking for reliable information, though I’m not sure where to find it.
Thanks in advance!
Hello,
We’re a group of four seventy-something retirees and we’re planning a 4-week trip to South Africa. We’re seasoned "adventurers" used to multi-week stays (we’ve been to India seven times, Mexico, Thailand, Laos, Myanmar, Australia, etc.).
For South Africa, we’re thinking of covering most of the trip in a private vehicle and taking flights for inter-state transfers. We’re interested in meeting people, learning about the country’s evolution, exploring major cities, visiting traditional villages, and seeing wildlife.
Here’s the itinerary we’re considering: Johannesburg – 2 days (we’ll pass through again later) Pretoria – 2 days Blyde River Canyon and Graskop – 1 day Acornhoek – 1 day Letaba – 2 days Lobamba – 2 days Johannesburg – 1 day
Flight to Cape Town
Cape Town – 3 days Cape of Good Hope – 1 day Stellenbosch – 1 day Hermanus – 1 day Mossel Bay – 2 days Oudtshoorn Wilderness – 2 days Knysna Port Elizabeth – 2 days Addo Elephant Park
Flight back to Johannesburg
Johannesburg – 1 day
Return to Paris
Could you share your thoughts on this itinerary? We’ll be renting a vehicle to explore both regions. We can easily add 4–5 more days to the trip if needed.
We’re looking at traveling either between April and May 2026 or in October/November 2026.
I’ll follow up later to discuss the best safari options and get a rough budget estimate.
Thanks to everyone who takes the time to read this and share their thoughts!
For South Africa, we’re thinking of covering most of the trip in a private vehicle and taking flights for inter-state transfers. We’re interested in meeting people, learning about the country’s evolution, exploring major cities, visiting traditional villages, and seeing wildlife.
Here’s the itinerary we’re considering: Johannesburg – 2 days (we’ll pass through again later) Pretoria – 2 days Blyde River Canyon and Graskop – 1 day Acornhoek – 1 day Letaba – 2 days Lobamba – 2 days Johannesburg – 1 day
Flight to Cape Town
Cape Town – 3 days Cape of Good Hope – 1 day Stellenbosch – 1 day Hermanus – 1 day Mossel Bay – 2 days Oudtshoorn Wilderness – 2 days Knysna Port Elizabeth – 2 days Addo Elephant Park
Flight back to Johannesburg
Johannesburg – 1 day
Return to Paris
Could you share your thoughts on this itinerary? We’ll be renting a vehicle to explore both regions. We can easily add 4–5 more days to the trip if needed.
We’re looking at traveling either between April and May 2026 or in October/November 2026.
I’ll follow up later to discuss the best safari options and get a rough budget estimate.
Thanks to everyone who takes the time to read this and share their thoughts!



