Véhicule de plus de 5 ans pour entrer de Mauritanie au Sénégal
by Artnaif
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
est il possible actuellement de passer de Mauritanie au Sénégal avec un vehicule de plus de 5 ans d' age ? merci pour votre réponse .
Hélas oui c'est toujours obligatoire... sauf si vous avez un dossier ATA d'importation temporaire. ce dossier est réalisé par la Chambre de Commerce de votre département et vous permet d'importer votre véhicule au sénégal durant un an, après quoi il faut le ramener en France. ce dossier coute environ 130 Euros assurance comprise.
Cordialement
Jammy
rien n'est plus précieux qu'un sourire...
Pour rentrer au Sénégal avec un véhicule de + de 5 ans il faut passer par Nioro - Kayes -Kidira (par une bonne route)
J'espère, "artnaif", que tu n'en feras pas mauvais usage ( à savoir vendre une poubelle dans ce pays qui voudrait faire venir des constructeurs auto et developper ce beau pays...)
Bon voyage!
Tu en fais quoi de ta caisse pourrie en France ??
Tu la fout dans le fond de ton jardin, ou bien tu vas l’entasser sur des tas d’autre poubelles qui campes dans les casse française pour en racheter une autre et …. Si tout va bien tu devrais consommer 5 ou 6 voitures dans ta vie, pour polluer sur notre planète.
Et polluer l’air avec les vielles voitures ou en les fabricant, kif kif.
Qui peut payer une auto neuve construite par un fabriquant qui aura le monopole comme fiat au maroc. Si personne n’apporte de véhicule le pays se retrouve a pied ! ici, la carrosserie est transformé en clou/bidon/seau/etc.., tout l'aluminium est refondu en gamelle ou manche de couteau ou fourchette / pneumatique en seau ou semelle de chaussures// chambre a air : récipient pour remonter l'eau du puit. Rien ne reste ! Depuis que le Maroc s’est moderniser tu trouve beaucoup de pollutions car plus rien n’est recycler ils sont rentrer dans l’air de la consommation (dans le nord surtout) nous n’en somme pas là ou les voitures. Les véhicules ne sont pas tous des poubelles en arrivant mais le deviennent vite dans les conditions de circulation.
Mais si tu préfères faire gonfler les cours de la bourse pour ces grosses industries, continues de penser ainsi. Perso je préfère éviter de consommer ou d’encourager dans ce sens.
Willynomad irriter😠 de lire des réactions sans réflexion. (& papy).
Pour le carnet ATA il y a des infos ici :
http://www.formint.ccip.fr/formint/ata.htm
le site du nomad😎
Autant je sais, pour t'avoir rencontré à Sévaré que tu es quelqu'un de bien, autant je ne te permets pas de dire que j'ai une réaction sans réflexion.
Un préambule, s'il ne tenait qu'à moi je préfererais un monde different, c'est sûr. Malheureusement, il y a des régles économiques avec lesquelles il faut compter.
Ainsi, si tu fabriques une voiture en France tu enrichis ce pays, et en fin de course si tu t'en débarrasses au Mali tu empêches ce pays de se developper. Ca Monsieur le donneur de leçon c'est incontestable !
Qu'il y est un monopole de Fiat au Maroc, d'abord, c'est faux (ça a été vrai), mais peu importe, ces véhicules sont fabriqués au Maroc, et c'est ça qui enrichit le pays.
Il y a en Europe un pays qui n'a pas de marques de voitures, mais qui est un exemple de développement rapide, c'est l'Espagne, ce pays construit sur son territoire des véhicules de toutes les marques mondiales.
Et tu sais il ne faut pas avoir honte, tu as pu vendre des poubelles au Mali, ça ne fais pas de toi un criminel, et c'est vrai que la banque mondiale (la dette qui pompe 40% du PNB de la plupart des pays africains)et les politiques néocolonialistes des pays riches sont beaucoup plus néfastes .Mais je me réserve le droit de faire remarquer qu'en plus d'être illégal c'est pas sympa vis à vis de nos amis Africains. Quant à l'argument humanitaire : le bon Européen qui vend des autos pas chères aux pauvres Africains (qui n'ont pas de gros moyens) permets moi d'en rigoler ! (tu sais depuis 15 ans que je descends par la route, je connais bien le milieu, j'y ai même des amis)
J'avoue que venant de toi je suis un peu déçu, mais je ne t'en veux pas, et accepte simplement que je pense autrement.
Allez, sans rancune, dans 1 mois je suis à Sévaré.
je ne te permets pas de dire que j'ai une réaction sans réflexion
en effet, je n’aurai pas du me permettre, c’était un spasme, 🤪 c’est passé. Mes excuses.😕 Et tu le dit :
mais je ne t'en veux pas, et accepte simplement que je pense autrement bonsoir capsus
Tant que les humains penseront que l’évolution d’un pays passe forcément par l’économie, ils iront dans ton sens. Tu approuve comme une fatalité cette règle que tant d’humains proclament alors que toutes autres pensées seraient utopistes et néfastes ! Tu ne parle que d’enrichir des pays. J’ai du mal à comprendre tout ce que tu me dit (la dette qui pompe 40% du PNB de la plupart des pays africains) mais, Si tu veut que les africains aillent a l’usine toute la journée pour travailler pour pouvoir ce payer une voiture neuve « a crédit », bien entendu, demande a sarco d’ouvrir les portes. C’est pour cela aussi que je suis ici, parce que les humains qui y vivent ne sont pas encore atteints par les symptômes des pays évolués. Tu dois te sentir mieux que moi avec les règles qui dirigent ce monde, je ne crois pas que les vendeurs de voiture clament faire une BA mais ils y trouvent l’argent du voyages qui n’est pas évident a trouver pour certains. Je parle des novices qui passent sur ce site pour ne pas se planter, pas des pros qui n’ont pas besoins de nos conseilles. Je pense que tout le monde y trouve son compte si ce n’est l’état dont tout le monde se plaint en haut comme en Afrique. . Nous devrions tout de même être d’accord sur un point c’est que nos vielles charrettes polluent grave et a Bamako beaucoup sont atteint du syndrome de l’évolution pour vivre dans une telle pollution. J’en conclu comme toi, nous n’avons pas le même point de vue sur l’évolution d’un pays. Par contre, tu seras le bienvenue à la villanomad pour parler de plein d’autres choses et venir faire un tour sur le fleuve dans ma pirogue toute neuve. willynomad
en effet, je n’aurai pas du me permettre, c’était un spasme, 🤪 c’est passé. Mes excuses.😕 Et tu le dit :
mais je ne t'en veux pas, et accepte simplement que je pense autrement bonsoir capsus
Tant que les humains penseront que l’évolution d’un pays passe forcément par l’économie, ils iront dans ton sens. Tu approuve comme une fatalité cette règle que tant d’humains proclament alors que toutes autres pensées seraient utopistes et néfastes ! Tu ne parle que d’enrichir des pays. J’ai du mal à comprendre tout ce que tu me dit (la dette qui pompe 40% du PNB de la plupart des pays africains) mais, Si tu veut que les africains aillent a l’usine toute la journée pour travailler pour pouvoir ce payer une voiture neuve « a crédit », bien entendu, demande a sarco d’ouvrir les portes. C’est pour cela aussi que je suis ici, parce que les humains qui y vivent ne sont pas encore atteints par les symptômes des pays évolués. Tu dois te sentir mieux que moi avec les règles qui dirigent ce monde, je ne crois pas que les vendeurs de voiture clament faire une BA mais ils y trouvent l’argent du voyages qui n’est pas évident a trouver pour certains. Je parle des novices qui passent sur ce site pour ne pas se planter, pas des pros qui n’ont pas besoins de nos conseilles. Je pense que tout le monde y trouve son compte si ce n’est l’état dont tout le monde se plaint en haut comme en Afrique. . Nous devrions tout de même être d’accord sur un point c’est que nos vielles charrettes polluent grave et a Bamako beaucoup sont atteint du syndrome de l’évolution pour vivre dans une telle pollution. J’en conclu comme toi, nous n’avons pas le même point de vue sur l’évolution d’un pays. Par contre, tu seras le bienvenue à la villanomad pour parler de plein d’autres choses et venir faire un tour sur le fleuve dans ma pirogue toute neuve. willynomad
le site du nomad😎
Tu as oublié de lire une phrase : "s'il ne tenait quà moi, je préfererais un monde différent"
Tu me fais vraiment un mauvai procés. Ceux qui (sans le savoir souvent) tombent dans le panneau de l'ordre (économique) établis et font le jeu des pays riches : ce sont ceux qui enrichissent la France (et ses gros industriels) en y construisant une voiture et appauvrissent le Mali en y revendant cette voiture (à un "riche" revendeur malien) qui ne rapporte rien à ce pays.
C'est comme si je te dis que la grosse multinationale achète le mineraie de fer à la Mauritanie, fait la transformation (fabrication) en Europe et revend le fer à béton à ce même pays 1000 fois + cher et que tu me réponds que c'est trés bien et que je parles que d'enrichissement!
Si tu me disais qu'on peut être heureux autrement dans un petit village africain avec d'autres valeurs comme la solidarité, avec le petit âne et la pirogue traditionnelle comme moyen de transport et que nos pays ne sont pas des modèles, que le "tout fric" rend les gens malheureux (voir suicides et dépressions), j'aurais pu être d'accord avec toi, mais vanter les mérites d'un petit revendeur de "guimbardes" dont le but égoïste est de faire de l'argent (même un peu!) là, je ne peux pas.
Bien sûr que je ne veux pas la mort de ces revendeurs, souvent sympathiques, mais je voudrais te voir autant "irrité" par ces gens qui font du fric (que tu le veuilles ou non) que par un vieux soixante-huitard qui rêve d'un monde meilleur! Bon, salut à toi, et j'arrête parce qu'on va saouler tout le monde .
Tu me fais vraiment un mauvai procés. Ceux qui (sans le savoir souvent) tombent dans le panneau de l'ordre (économique) établis et font le jeu des pays riches : ce sont ceux qui enrichissent la France (et ses gros industriels) en y construisant une voiture et appauvrissent le Mali en y revendant cette voiture (à un "riche" revendeur malien) qui ne rapporte rien à ce pays.
C'est comme si je te dis que la grosse multinationale achète le mineraie de fer à la Mauritanie, fait la transformation (fabrication) en Europe et revend le fer à béton à ce même pays 1000 fois + cher et que tu me réponds que c'est trés bien et que je parles que d'enrichissement!
Si tu me disais qu'on peut être heureux autrement dans un petit village africain avec d'autres valeurs comme la solidarité, avec le petit âne et la pirogue traditionnelle comme moyen de transport et que nos pays ne sont pas des modèles, que le "tout fric" rend les gens malheureux (voir suicides et dépressions), j'aurais pu être d'accord avec toi, mais vanter les mérites d'un petit revendeur de "guimbardes" dont le but égoïste est de faire de l'argent (même un peu!) là, je ne peux pas.
Bien sûr que je ne veux pas la mort de ces revendeurs, souvent sympathiques, mais je voudrais te voir autant "irrité" par ces gens qui font du fric (que tu le veuilles ou non) que par un vieux soixante-huitard qui rêve d'un monde meilleur! Bon, salut à toi, et j'arrête parce qu'on va saouler tout le monde .
Bonjour.
Officiellement non. Officieusement : en Afrique tout est possible... ... Je suis venu en octobre 2006 avec une voiture de plus de 5 ans en étant accompagné d'un Sénégalais. Avec quelques heures de discutions et quelques billets, on est rentré. Je ne crois pas que si j'avais été seul j'aurais eu autant de chance.
p§
salut Yamatogne, et ton ami sénégalais pourais devenir mon ami ?😉
Je vais m'installer pour vivre au Sénégal (région de st louis) pendant ... quelques années et je pensais descendre une voiture pour moi et le village vers fin juin, début juillet 2008.
Bref as tu des contacts ou des astuces pour que je puisse rouller avec ma voiture de plus de cinq ans sans soucis ?
merci Mat
Bref as tu des contacts ou des astuces pour que je puisse rouller avec ma voiture de plus de cinq ans sans soucis ?
merci Mat
Matthieu Montauzan
Bonjour,
Ce Sénégalais habite en Suisse et j'aurais écrire "c'était" mon ami. Mais après qu'il m'aie escroqué quelques centaines d'Euros, tu penses bien qu'il ne l'est plus.
A l'époque je n'avais pas assisté aux discutions avec les douaniers, je m'étais tenu à l'écart pour qu'il n'y aie pas d'inflation en raison de ma peau blanche. Il a surement fait un passavant qu'il a dû payer autour des 250 € et qu'il a fait renouveler plusieurs fois à Ziguinchor car j'ai vu rouler cette voiture immatriculée en Suisse durant plusieurs mois ici. La dernière fois que j'ai vu la voiture elle était immatriculée en Guinée.
Si tu t'établis définitivement au Sénégal, tu peux faire établir un certificat par les autorités où tu habites à présent que tu quittes définitivement le pays. Avec ce papier accompagné de la liste exhaustive de tout ce que tu emportes au Sénégal (y compris la voiture) tu te rends au Consulat du Sénégal le plus proche qui va te donner un permis d'importation. Celui-ci te permettra d'importer sans frais de douane, sauf pour la voiture sur laquelle tu payeras le dédouanement.
Je n'ai malheureusement pas de contacts avec les douanes et je ne connais personne du côté de St-Louis. Désolé.
Par contre, je te conseille de te rendre sur ce site :
http://www.senegalaisement.com/senegal/formalites_douanieres_senegal.html
Bonne journée. Pierre
http://www.senegalaisement.com/senegal/formalites_douanieres_senegal.html
Bonne journée. Pierre
p§
Merci pour les infos et pour le lien ...
A bientôt inchallah sur les routes du monde ou sur ce cher forum😎
Mat
A bientôt inchallah sur les routes du monde ou sur ce cher forum😎
Mat
Matthieu Montauzan
Salut,
j'arrive du sénégal, et avec de la patience tu passe la frontière sans carnet ATA, tu demande simplement un passe avant aux douaniers.
le carnet ATA est un document pour les transports proffessionnels et coute la peau des fesse, et en plus gage ton véhicule, pas question de tomber en rade sur place, sinon tu perd la caution de la valeur du véhicule.
bonne route Bernard
;)Qui va piano va sano qui va sano va lontano
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My departure is slowly approaching, and now that I’ve got my Russian visa sorted, I’m fine-tuning the rest of my trip to Tajikistan. Since the Tajik visa is no longer required for stays under 30 days (for French nationals), I’ll need to visit the Ministry of Interior (OVIR) to register within 10 days of entering the country. No big deal, though, since I had to go there anyway to apply for my GBAO permit. 😉 However, I’ve *seen* several reports from travelers (mostly motorized) mentioning that you need an entry permit for Kyrgyzstan, which has to be arranged in advance at the Kyrgyz Ministry (consulate?) in Dushanbe. Otherwise, you’re *stuck* at the Kyzyl-Art border (with no Wi-Fi, of course, to try and sort it out). The most recent report was from a year ago, so I’d love to know if this is still the case and if it’s indeed at the Kyrgyz Ministry (consulate?) where you need to go for this pre-authorization.
Does anyone have any recent info on this?
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone.
I’m leaving for almost 3 months in the Philippines (11 weeks total) starting in early May.
I already have my round-trip ticket.
The problem is, I don’t have time to get a 2-month visa because the process takes nearly a month.
From what I’ve read here and there, I need a return ticket valid for less than a month when I arrive in the Philippines to prove my good faith.
After that, I can apply for a 30-day extension at the immigration office.
I’m planning to either buy a fully refundable ticket to the nearest country or a fake ticket.
For 3 months, I’ll need to extend my visa two more times before my return date to France.
My question is this:
Will immigration ask me each time I extend my visa by one month to show proof of an exit ticket matching the new visa extension date?
Is it possible to extend directly by 2 months before the initial 30 days expire?
Thanks in advance for your experiences and tips! 😊
Hello to all the Thailand regulars.
I’ve been to Thailand several times, but it was about 20 years ago…
There’s a new system in place now, it seems.
TDAC – Thailand Digital Arrival Card.
Before arriving, I apply for a TDAC, okay. If during my stay I cross the border to spend a few days in Malaysia and then re-enter Thailand, do I need to submit a new TDAC application? Do I use the same TDAC as when I first entered the country?
Or do I initially have to pay for a Thai multi-entry visa?
Thanks in advance for your insights—I can’t find the answer online.
Pierre
I’ve been to Thailand several times, but it was about 20 years ago…
There’s a new system in place now, it seems.
TDAC – Thailand Digital Arrival Card.
Before arriving, I apply for a TDAC, okay. If during my stay I cross the border to spend a few days in Malaysia and then re-enter Thailand, do I need to submit a new TDAC application? Do I use the same TDAC as when I first entered the country?
Or do I initially have to pay for a Thai multi-entry visa?
Thanks in advance for your insights—I can’t find the answer online.
Pierre
My partner (Mexican) entered France on January 21st as a tourist. She was therefore entitled to stay for 90 days in the Schengen Area. She’ll be leaving for Mexico on April 16th, so she’ll have “used up” 86 days.
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
Hello,
We’re planning to travel to Indonesia (Sulawesi with family) next July and August for a stay longer than a month (about 6 weeks).
I’ve seen that it’s possible to get a 60-day visa before departure, but I’ve also read about people having a lot of trouble getting it (some even didn’t manage and had to leave without it).
We absolutely need to have these 4 visas BEFORE leaving because once we’re in Sulawesi, I’m not sure we’ll be able to go to an embassy to request a visa extension after 30 days.
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
Hi there,
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
Hello, HAPPY NEW YEAR 2026!
We’re heading back in October for a trip through Botswana, Zambia, and Zimbabwe.
I have a question: for our route, we’ll need to cross the Zambia and Zimbabwe borders twice each. From experience, I know we won’t have any issues with Botswana.
But for the other two countries, I can’t find a clear answer.
All your tips are welcome!
Thanks for your replies
Thanks for your replies
Hi everyone!
I’m currently a student on a gap year, and I don’t plan to go back to school right away. That said, traveling really interests me. But I’ve been wondering: does being a student come with any perks when you decide to go abroad? The real question is whether I should re-enroll in a program just to keep that status without actually attending.
Thanks in advance for your replies,
Axel
I’m currently a student on a gap year, and I don’t plan to go back to school right away. That said, traveling really interests me. But I’ve been wondering: does being a student come with any perks when you decide to go abroad? The real question is whether I should re-enroll in a program just to keep that status without actually attending.
Thanks in advance for your replies,
Axel
hi everyone,
I’m French and live in France, and my Thai girlfriend just told me she’s pregnant—she lives in Thailand. First step, a paternity test to set my mind at ease. What steps do I need to take to recognize the child? Can I do it before the birth or only after? Where do I need to go, and what paperwork is required?
Just to clarify, I want him to stay in Thailand but be able to come to France anytime without any issues! Thanks for taking the time to read and reply.
Just to clarify, I want him to stay in Thailand but be able to come to France anytime without any issues! Thanks for taking the time to read and reply.





