Bonjour
Je prévois de réaliser la traversée entre Villa O Higgins et El Chaltèn au mois de décembre. D'après les infos, il existe un bateau le samedi qui relie Bahamondes à Candelario Mancilla. Mais après ? Quelles sont les distances, sur chemin tracé ou pas, bac pour le lago Desierto, bus ensuite ?
Combien de temps faut il compter, 2, 3 jours ? Toutes les infos sont bienvenues, Merci !
c'est 14 km de Candellario Mancilla à la frontière sur une route de cailloux.
De la frontièere au poste douanier du lago del desertio, ajoute un 6km.
20km au total..
en sens inverse Lago à candellario... nous avons mis de 8h30Am à 14h30...avec nos trois enfants.
Superbe vue sur le fitz roy par temsp dégagé..
Pour le lago del desertio... 2 options: èa pied sur la rive Est... jusqu'à la décharge du lago et l'autre poste douanier argentin.
De cet endroit, c'est 43 km sur la route... autobus tous les jours...
De El Chalten à Villa O'Higgins, nous avons mis 4 jours
Jour 1 : El Chalten en AM, bateau sur lago del desertio en mi-journée...pluie foorte et tres mauvais temsp ou nous avons decidé de rester sur palce.
Jour 2: de la pointe nord du lago del desertio à candellario mancilla
Jour 3: attente car le bateau ne pouvait venir à cause du vent
Jour 4 bateau vers O'Higgins ouo nous somme arrivé à 20h00...
Merci beaucoup.
Nous allons donc prendre la tente et un réchaud car les passages en bateau semblent un peu aléatoires sur le lac Desierto.
Ensuite nous enchainons sur un trek autour du Fitz Roy.
Etape suivante, le Perito Moreno. Aurais-tu un tuyau pour éviter la foule. Louer une voiture et rouler de nuit, camper à proximité ?...
À Mancilla, Ricardo offre le repas (6000CH$/personne/repas de soir) et le logis (?$), nous étions en camping sur son terrain.
Nous avons bénéficier d'un repas chez lui comem nous étions un peu à cours de nourriture pour 5 bouches...
Par contre, la peche est fabuleuse pour les amants des poissons...
Fitz Roy et Cerro Torre et alentours... j, ai trouver ca aussi bon que W de Torres del Paine... ce massif est à rendre fou de la montagne... profitez en pour circuler les environs au max... en plus El Chalten offre pas mal de bons services de restauration/herbergemnt pour le retour à la civilisation... (pour toutes les bourses, bien que plutot cher et touristique un brin)...
Moreno... c'est la foule c'est certain... on a fait avec.
c'est tellement grandiose, si pres de son front qui craque tout le temps.. tout un spot à ne pas manquer...
D'accord les endroits seuls et sauvages ajoutent à l'authenticité... mais les gens vont à Moreno...parce que c'est Moreno...
Je en connais pas les endroits de camping autour de Calafate ou dans le parc et alentours du parc... désolé
David
Photo ci joint.... Mancilla avec au menu, truite arc-en-ciel, légumes de Ricardo en papilotte, plaisir, bonne compagnie, la patagonie...
Bonjour
Oui je suis d'accord pour le trek au Fitz Roy, j'y suis déjà allée en 2001 et je rêve d'y retourner. c'est vrai que Chaltén a dû bien changer ; A l'époque il y avait quelques cabanes et la nourriture était comptée (sauf la viande !) ...
ola,
pour y être passé à vélo dans le sens candelario mancilla- lago del desierto l'hiver dernier, le passage avec remorque enfant me semble un poil ardu du côté argentin.
la partie chilienne est une piste caillouteuse peu roulante avec de gros galets par endroits, mais large. et le point de vue sur le fitz-roy, vaut le coup.
la partie argentine est un sentier en forêt très joli mais par endroits très creusé ( une rigole de 50 cm de profondeur ), assez pentu, avec des racines à franchir, quelques petits gués mignons si le temps est sec , c'est à dire bien profonds et boueux s'il pleut, et surtout de largeur par endroits limite à mon avis pour une remorque à deux roues. (les monoroues passent mieux )
il faut se préparer à pas mal de portage (sacoches, remorque, enfant ?). j'ai des sacoches non surbaissées, je n'ai donc pas eu à "débater" mon vélo, mais ceux qui ont des porte-bagages surbaissés sont obligés de faire ça en deux temps: sacoches puis vélo.
poussette, et portage au programme, à moins de louer les chevaux du fameux ricardo dont les prix s'envolent .
+ si besoin
ça semble un peu compliqué donc... par contre je lis sur le site de la traversée l'existence d'un minibus... mais prennent-ils les vélos?
Mes réflexions avancent et il est probable qu'on n'aura plus de remorques enfant au moment du départ... mais ne trouvant pas de tandems couché que je pourrais piloter (trop petite pour le siège du pilote), ce serait probablement un "train" de tricycle (2 tricycles couchés qui s'attachent ensemble) pour moi et un enfant et un vélo droit + follow me pour l'autre.
Il me semble avoir déjà lu que les tricycles ne passaient pas :-/
Faites que le rêve dévore votre vie afin que la vie ne dévore pas votre rêve (Antoine de Saint Exupéry)
bonjour,
un minibus ? où donc ? en tous cas pas sur le sentier forestier qui va de la frontière chili-argentine jusqu'au poste frontière argentin en limite nord du lago del desierto. peux-tu me passer ton info ?
pour les tricycles comme pour les remorques à deux roues, le sentier est très étroit et quelque peu acrobatique, ça me semble osé.
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El CHALTEN - VILLA O'HIGGINS. 2 días/ 1 noche. El Viaje comienza en El Chaltén. Este programa autoguiado considera una noche en Candelario Mancilla en hostal familiar o camping.HoraActividadDía 1Martes, Viernes o Domingo8:00Salida de El Chaltén en Bus.10:00Cruce de Laguna del Desierto. Salida desde Punta Sur.11:00Arribo a Punta Norte. Control aduana Argentina. Gendarmería.13:00Cruce de Frontera: Punta Norte de Laguna del Desierto a Pto. Candelario Mancilla.
Opción 1: Trekking autoguiado (recomendado solo para personas con buena condición física).
Opción 2: Trekking con transporte de carga en caballos (10 kms) + transporte de carga en camioneta (12 kms). Reservas con 3 días de anticipación (servicio entregado por Estancia Candelario Mancilla).
Opción 3: Cabalgata**+ transfer. traslado en caballos (10 kms) y en camioneta (12 kms). Reservas con 3 días de anticipación (servicio entregado por Estancia Candelario Mancilla). 18:00Control Aduana Chile. Carabineros Lago O'Higgins18:30Arribo a Estancia Candelario Mancilla. Alojamiento en Estancia Candelario MancillaDía 2Lunes, Miércoles, Sábado11:30Opción de Excursión a Glaciar O'Higgins16:45Fin Excursión Glaciar17:30Cruce de Lago O'Higgins. Salida de Pto. Candelario Mancilla a Pto. Bahamondez en L/M Quetru.20:15Arribo a Pto. Bahamondez.20:30Salida Bus Pto. Bahamondez a Villa O'Higgins.21:00Llegada a Villa O'Higgins.
Faites que le rêve dévore votre vie afin que la vie ne dévore pas votre rêve (Antoine de Saint Exupéry)
merci pour le retour,
c'est bien ce que je disais: on peut passer le sentier de la partie argentine avec chevaux de portage, mais ce n'est pas une piste carrossable,
la partie chilienne est +/-carrossable, le paysan basé à candelario mancilla fait ce bout de piste avec une carriole derrière son tracteur.
c'est "camioneta" seulement sur une partie du trajet
il faut savoir que la bateau villa o'higgins -candelario mancilla ne passe pas en cas de mauvais temps, on peut donc être coincé quelques jours par grand vent .
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Bon, on réfléchit, on réfléchit... et on a sans doute trouvé la configuration qu'on aura pour les vélos (même si en 5 ans beaucoup d'eau peut encore couler sous les ponts...)
L'idée serait donc 2 vélos couchés (ceux de notre voyage précédent) avec follow me et vélos enfants (le plus jeune aura 4 ans et demi si on s'arrête à 2 et si on part dans 5 ans et l'ainé 7 ans).
Dans cette configuration, ça devrait passer, non? Sachant qu'on peut séparer les vélos couchés des vélos enfants au besoin...
(Ne pas avoir fait le bout de la carretera en 2012 reste un de mes petits regrets du voyage, on avait choisi de ne pas prendre le risque de se retrouver coincés à Villa O Higgins si le bateau n'avait plus de carburant (c'était en plein milieu de grosses grèves qui ont sévi dans la région, les routes étaient bloquées, pas de ravitaillement et lorsqu'on a dû prendre la décision, à Cochrane, les bateaux du sud de la carretera étaient déjà en service réduit et on ne savait nous dire jusqu'à quand fonctionnerait le service... ni quels étaient les stocks de nourriture disponible là-bas)... (A côté de ça, on a eu le bonheur de profiter du parc Chacabuco quasi pour nous seuls (2-3 voitures max par jour y passaient)...)
Faites que le rêve dévore votre vie afin que la vie ne dévore pas votre rêve (Antoine de Saint Exupéry)
salut,
dans la présentation actuelle du terrain , tout ce qui est "en ligne", vélo, tandem, remorque monoroue, ça passe , j'en ai croisés, avec quelques manipulations du matériel.
d'ici cinq ans si j'ai bien compris, tu as le temps de changer d'avis, de vélo et d'itinéraire .
un autre endroit qui m'a emballé dans ma virée hivernale, c'est la traversée ouest est de la terre de feu : porvenir- rio grande par la campagne, cameron, seccion russfin, pampa guanacos, ça m'a rappelé parmi les meilleurs moments mongols ou marocains,
je hais les grands axes, c'est dangereux et ça sent le gazole.
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Le Lonely Planet explique qu'on peut passer du Chili en Argentine en faisant un trek sur 4 jours entre Villa O'Higgins et El Chalten. Quelqu'un l'a-t-il fait?…
Mon ami et moi decollons pour la guyane en septembre, pour y travailler et, evidemment pour la visiter. d'ici un an ou deux on pense tailler la route pendant…
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In mid-November, we’ll be in Mindelo and Santo Antão.
We’ve booked transportation with Kapverden Tours.
One trip is from Porto Novo to Ponta do Sol, including the hike from Corda to Coculi.
What’s the trail like?
Then we’ll be staying in Ponta do Sol,
Here’s what we’re planning:
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Take an aluguer to Ribeira Grande and continue along the coastal road.
With the agency:
An excursion to Cruzinha with a short walk.
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The Daisetsu Zan traverse is a stunning hike through volcanic terrain with a remote section in the middle that requires at least one night of camping (there are basic huts for the rest, which is popular with Japanese hikers): 4 to 6 days.
The Shiretoko traverse takes 2 days with views including an island in Russia, but the ridge is brown bear territory—there are even more here than in Denali National Park in Alaska (brown bears and grizzlies are the same). I ran into 7 in just 6 hours of hiking!
Hi,
Since I can't take on long treks, I'd love to know if there are any nice hikes around Pokhara—or maybe in another region of Nepal. Day hikes or two-day trips would be perfect.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hi everyone,
I’m leaving on Monday, August 3rd for my very first long-distance trek: the GR223 from Coutances to Mont Saint-Michel, over 6-7 days (~11-14 miles/day), solo.
I’m looking for tips from people who know this section well (Coutances → Regnéville-sur-Mer → Hauteville-sur-Mer → Bréhal → Granville → Genêts → bay crossing):
Budget-friendly accommodations: I’m struggling to find affordable stopover lodgings (a lot of what I find online are expensive vacation rentals, not really suited for a solo hiker). If you have any great spots (hostels, hiker-friendly B&Bs, nice campgrounds), I’d love to hear them!
Bay crossing: Any feedback on guides/providers leaving from Genêts for the final crossing?
General tips for a first long-distance trek: What you wish you’d known before your first time, pitfalls to avoid, etc.
Hi,
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New to this forum, I’m planning a pretty big project for 2028.
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This trek is a bit special because even though I’ll be part of a group, I’m going solo (so far, no problem—I’m used to it). But it’s my first real trek, and it’s also a humanitarian one: once I reach base camp, I’ll stay an extra week to help clean up the waste left by tens of thousands of climbers! Since I’m originally from South America, from two countries that share the Andes, I have a deep respect for mountains—they fascinate me. So Everest… it’s kind of the trip of a lifetime!
So, a little question for those who’ve done treks to Everest before… any tips for good mental preparation (I’m already working on the physical side)?
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If you know any, could you share details on prices and, of course, the names of the agencies?
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Elocine
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Can I find screw-on gas canisters (Coleman, Primus) in Marrakech (any addresses?) or in villages between Imilchil and Aghbalou?
If not, are Butagaz canisters for camping gas (small 230g size) available?
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I’ll decide day by day how much farther to go after that. My goal is to stay in nature as much as possible, wander around for as long as I can, and restock food in villages or towns along the way.
I’m thinking of mostly camping, but we’ll see if I end up in a hotel or another campsite depending on my route.
I’d love to reach La Chaux-de-Fonds on foot... maybe even Delémont.
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I’ll be bringing my dog, and I’m preparing for this as soon as I’m ready.
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I’m not sure if what I’m planning is even doable, which is why I’m asking around.
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Hi there,
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A few details:
We arrive in early August and leave in early September.
We’re looking for day hikes (or shorter), moderate difficulty, with a cumulative elevation gain of no more than 1000m, and of course, beautiful scenery!
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