Annabelle
Visa étudiant puis touristique au Brésil
by Anapan
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Je voudrais avoir un renseignement très pratique.
Il m'est possible d'avoir un visa étudiant pour aller faire un stage conventionné à Salvador pour 6 mois. Est il possible d'être rémunéré pour ce stage? De plus, le stage serait de septembre à janvier. Est il possible de demander une prolongation de 3 mois à la fin du contrat de stage afin de pouvoir rester jusqu'en avril?
Merci de bien vouloir me repondre.
Annabelle
Annabelle
salut!
je ne sais pas si mes infos pourront t'aider. moi je pars faire un stage à buenos aires.
Le stage n'est pas rémunéré, mais ça ça dépend essentiellement de l'organisme ou tu fais le stage je pense.
Je vais aussi avoir un visa spécial de 6 mois, que je pourrais prolonger dans la mesure ou je prolonge le stage. apres si je veux rester plus en dehors du stage... et bien je supopse qu'il me suffit d'aller faire un petit tour un week end au brésil ou en uruguay, pour revenir et récuperer un visa touristique de trois mois...
par ailleur je panique un peu, car l'ambassade de france en argentine ne m'a toujours pas donné le feu vert pour contacter l'ambassade d'argentine en france (PFFF c'est compliqué leurs trucs) et je dois partir le 15 aout... donc j'espere que ce n'est pas trop long pour obtenir le visa. si quelqu'un a des infos la dessus....
Bonjour,
Merci de m'avoir répondu, j'aimerai être sûre d'avoir bien compris, cela dit.
Au bout des 6 mois du visa étudiant, (septembre - février) je peux sortir du Brésil (pour quelques jours? ) et retourner pour 90 jours (renouvelable 1 fois), c'est ça?
Si c'est ça, comment cela se passe t'il avec le billet d'avion? Sachant que je voudrais rester 9 mois au total, le billet serait de septembre à mai, mais le visa inscrit sur le passeport ne serait que de 6 mois. Cela peut il poser un prblème à l'aéroport?
Tu sais comme moi qu'ils sont assez pointilleux quand ils veulent être chiant au Brésil, alors je préfère me renseigner avant.
Merci de la lecture ! A bientôt j'espère
Annabelle
Merci de la lecture ! A bientôt j'espère
Annabelle
Boa tarde,
ton visa d' étudiant aura une date d'expiration, à cette date, il faudra quitter le pays pour un minimun de 181 jours 😮 avant de pouvoir y revenir pour un délai de 3 mois sans visa, auquel tu pourra demander une extension de 90 jours (visa de tourisme)......
Pour ton billet d'avion prends-le, de la durée de ton visa, soit pour 6 mois, prendre un billet avec un retour à 9 mois est possible, mais comme tu devra quitter le pays à l'echeance de ton visa, je ne vois pas l'intérêt, sauf si tu décide de rester de maniere "clandestine" sur le sol brésilien pour le temps que tu souhaite. Tu t'exposera simplement à une amende 🤪qui te sera infligée lors de ton embarquement à l'aeroport et payable sur place, variable selon la durée du séjour hors visa. De 0 à 30 jours, cela sera d'environ 320 reals, soit plus ou moins 123 euros et au dela de 30 jours, cela sera 8 reals par jour supplementaire pour une amende total maxi de 820 reals (ce qui est le cas pour 3 mois de dépassement)....820 reals = 315 euros.
Eric
ton visa d' étudiant aura une date d'expiration, à cette date, il faudra quitter le pays pour un minimun de 181 jours 😮 avant de pouvoir y revenir pour un délai de 3 mois sans visa, auquel tu pourra demander une extension de 90 jours (visa de tourisme)......
Pour ton billet d'avion prends-le, de la durée de ton visa, soit pour 6 mois, prendre un billet avec un retour à 9 mois est possible, mais comme tu devra quitter le pays à l'echeance de ton visa, je ne vois pas l'intérêt, sauf si tu décide de rester de maniere "clandestine" sur le sol brésilien pour le temps que tu souhaite. Tu t'exposera simplement à une amende 🤪qui te sera infligée lors de ton embarquement à l'aeroport et payable sur place, variable selon la durée du séjour hors visa. De 0 à 30 jours, cela sera d'environ 320 reals, soit plus ou moins 123 euros et au dela de 30 jours, cela sera 8 reals par jour supplementaire pour une amende total maxi de 820 reals (ce qui est le cas pour 3 mois de dépassement)....820 reals = 315 euros.
Eric
Bonjour
Un ami americain qui a étudié avec moi au Brésil (j y ai passé un an et suis rentrée il y a deux mois) a écrit au consulat du brésil aux usa pour leur demander une clarification. Selon leur réponse, les fameux 181 jours hors du pays ne s apliquent qu'aux visa vitem I soit visa touriste. Donc pour nous qui avont été étudiants, nous n aurions pas besoin d'attendre 6 mois avant d y retourner. Lui a d ailleurs pris son billet pour décembre (car lui et moi avons tous deux une relation sérieuse avec respectivement une brésilienne et un brésilien).
Je m'apprete à écrire à mon tour un mail au consulat a paris afin d'avoir leur confirmation par écrit au cas ou j aurai des soucis a l immigration, mais leurs bureaux étant fermés le WE je ne le ferai que lundi matin et poste ce message afin de savoir si vous en saviez plus. Mais apparement, le consulat du brésil auw us a été formel: l interdiction de territoire de 181 jrs ne vaut que pr les visa touristiques....
Atenciosamente,
Lyra.
Un ami americain qui a étudié avec moi au Brésil (j y ai passé un an et suis rentrée il y a deux mois) a écrit au consulat du brésil aux usa pour leur demander une clarification. Selon leur réponse, les fameux 181 jours hors du pays ne s apliquent qu'aux visa vitem I soit visa touriste. Donc pour nous qui avont été étudiants, nous n aurions pas besoin d'attendre 6 mois avant d y retourner. Lui a d ailleurs pris son billet pour décembre (car lui et moi avons tous deux une relation sérieuse avec respectivement une brésilienne et un brésilien).
Je m'apprete à écrire à mon tour un mail au consulat a paris afin d'avoir leur confirmation par écrit au cas ou j aurai des soucis a l immigration, mais leurs bureaux étant fermés le WE je ne le ferai que lundi matin et poste ce message afin de savoir si vous en saviez plus. Mais apparement, le consulat du brésil auw us a été formel: l interdiction de territoire de 181 jrs ne vaut que pr les visa touristiques....
Atenciosamente,
Lyra.
Pourquoi écrire au consulat puisque tu as la réponse...il n'y a pas de soucis à avoir, le visa d'étudiant est une chose et l'obtention d'une autorisation de séjour en est une autre 😎
le délai entre 2 séjours est de 90 jours minimum, cela fait 2 mois que tu es rentré donc en décembre cela fera 4 mois et sans te poser de question, tu peux revenir au Brésil pour bénéficier de 90 jours d'autorisation de résidence sans problème
la règle est la suivante : 90 jours d'autorisés, une fois que le quotas est épuisé, il faut sortir du pays pour un minimum de 90 jours avant de pouvoir revenir......il est recommandé de laisser 181 jours pour éviter toute mauvaise interprétation en arrivée Brésil, des textes de lois, par un policier fédéral qui pourrait te refuser l'entrée (c'est son droit, comme celui de ne t'accorder que "x" jours, il n'a aucune obligation au sujet de la durée délivrée) ....
un Francais peut donc effectuer 2 séjours de 90 jours soit 180 jours sur une période de 360 jours glissant...la première entrée au Brésil déterminant la date de départ des 360 jours glissant. Et pour obtenir 2 séjours de 90 jours, il devra sortir du pays au minimum 90 jours à la fin des 90 premiers jours...🙂
et au sujet de ma réponse de 2007, plus haut, depuis il y a eu des changements notamment qu'aujourd'hui il n'est plus possible d'obtenir à la fin de son séjour de 90 jours sans visa, une extension pour 90 jours supplémentaire ce qui permettait de rester 6 mois consécutifs, ..il faut obligatoirement sortir du pays pour un minimum de 3 mois
le délai entre 2 séjours est de 90 jours minimum, cela fait 2 mois que tu es rentré donc en décembre cela fera 4 mois et sans te poser de question, tu peux revenir au Brésil pour bénéficier de 90 jours d'autorisation de résidence sans problème
la règle est la suivante : 90 jours d'autorisés, une fois que le quotas est épuisé, il faut sortir du pays pour un minimum de 90 jours avant de pouvoir revenir......il est recommandé de laisser 181 jours pour éviter toute mauvaise interprétation en arrivée Brésil, des textes de lois, par un policier fédéral qui pourrait te refuser l'entrée (c'est son droit, comme celui de ne t'accorder que "x" jours, il n'a aucune obligation au sujet de la durée délivrée) ....
un Francais peut donc effectuer 2 séjours de 90 jours soit 180 jours sur une période de 360 jours glissant...la première entrée au Brésil déterminant la date de départ des 360 jours glissant. Et pour obtenir 2 séjours de 90 jours, il devra sortir du pays au minimum 90 jours à la fin des 90 premiers jours...🙂
et au sujet de ma réponse de 2007, plus haut, depuis il y a eu des changements notamment qu'aujourd'hui il n'est plus possible d'obtenir à la fin de son séjour de 90 jours sans visa, une extension pour 90 jours supplémentaire ce qui permettait de rester 6 mois consécutifs, ..il faut obligatoirement sortir du pays pour un minimum de 3 mois
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There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
Hello,
We’re planning to travel to Indonesia (Sulawesi with family) next July and August for a stay longer than a month (about 6 weeks).
I’ve seen that it’s possible to get a 60-day visa before departure, but I’ve also read about people having a lot of trouble getting it (some even didn’t manage and had to leave without it).
We absolutely need to have these 4 visas BEFORE leaving because once we’re in Sulawesi, I’m not sure we’ll be able to go to an embassy to request a visa extension after 30 days.
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
Hi there,
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
Hello, HAPPY NEW YEAR 2026!
We’re heading back in October for a trip through Botswana, Zambia, and Zimbabwe.
I have a question: for our route, we’ll need to cross the Zambia and Zimbabwe borders twice each. From experience, I know we won’t have any issues with Botswana.
But for the other two countries, I can’t find a clear answer.
All your tips are welcome!
Thanks for your replies
Thanks for your replies
Hi everyone!
I’m currently a student on a gap year, and I don’t plan to go back to school right away. That said, traveling really interests me. But I’ve been wondering: does being a student come with any perks when you decide to go abroad? The real question is whether I should re-enroll in a program just to keep that status without actually attending.
Thanks in advance for your replies,
Axel
I’m currently a student on a gap year, and I don’t plan to go back to school right away. That said, traveling really interests me. But I’ve been wondering: does being a student come with any perks when you decide to go abroad? The real question is whether I should re-enroll in a program just to keep that status without actually attending.
Thanks in advance for your replies,
Axel
hi everyone,
I’m French and live in France, and my Thai girlfriend just told me she’s pregnant—she lives in Thailand. First step, a paternity test to set my mind at ease. What steps do I need to take to recognize the child? Can I do it before the birth or only after? Where do I need to go, and what paperwork is required?
Just to clarify, I want him to stay in Thailand but be able to come to France anytime without any issues! Thanks for taking the time to read and reply.
Just to clarify, I want him to stay in Thailand but be able to come to France anytime without any issues! Thanks for taking the time to read and reply.