Voyage à Cuba pour deux deux filles et leur mère
by Maya82
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour,
je viens me renseigner sur le forum car je pars 15 jours à Cuba avec mes deux filles de 20 et 17 ans;nous avons prévu une semaine en autotour :La Havane, Viñales, Trinidad;puis, une semaine à Varadero.
J'ai lu des conseils dans un guide , comme quoi il fallait être vigilant .Pouvons-nous sortir à pieds le soir dans ces villes, et au cours des étapes, par exemple, laisser notre voiture de location en bord de plage ou dans un parking?
J'aimerais juste être informée des petits trucs pour éviter les désagréments et pouvoir apprécier ce voyage sans parano 😇.Une de mes filles parle espagnol couramment..ce qui peut nous aider aussi
merci
le danger c'est.... Varadero, la ou tes filles et toi serez exposées aux jineteros cubains déguisés en animateurs ou barmen de tout inclus, population pour qui la chasse à la chair fraiche occidentale est un sport national ....
A Cuba comme partout ailleurs il faut être prudent et trois dames seules sont, pour ces fameux gigolos une cible de choix ; il faut apprendre à dire tout le temps non, tout simplement...
un peu plus de prudence à la Havane, Vinales et Trinidad sans souci, quand à Varadero il y a plus de touristes que de cubains dans la ville... faire garder la voiture la nuit si tu séjournes hors des parkings d'hotels sécurisés ne coute pas cher, une petite pièce le lendemain matin en vérifiant qu'il ne s'est rien passé et tout le monde sera heureux
ne rien laisser de précieux dans la voiture, éviter de prendre des gens en stop (mais à trois dans la voiture c'est déja moins facile...)
A Cuba comme partout ailleurs il faut être prudent et trois dames seules sont, pour ces fameux gigolos une cible de choix ; il faut apprendre à dire tout le temps non, tout simplement...
un peu plus de prudence à la Havane, Vinales et Trinidad sans souci, quand à Varadero il y a plus de touristes que de cubains dans la ville... faire garder la voiture la nuit si tu séjournes hors des parkings d'hotels sécurisés ne coute pas cher, une petite pièce le lendemain matin en vérifiant qu'il ne s'est rien passé et tout le monde sera heureux
ne rien laisser de précieux dans la voiture, éviter de prendre des gens en stop (mais à trois dans la voiture c'est déja moins facile...)
oui....j'ai lu qu'il fallait prendre une attitude distante face à certaines personnes.J'ai voyagé plusieurs fois en Rep Dom où sévissent les "sanki panki", mais semble-t-il en moindre mesure qu'à Cuba...C'est dommage de devoir enfiler une "armure" et d'adopter une attitude de méfiance 😕 alors que nous souhaitons aller à la rencontre des cubains.
D'autre part , existe-t-il un moyen de remercier cordialement , avec quelque chose rapporté de France(crayons, ...)?si nous faisions de bonnes rencontres?
Disons que j'ai plus peur de certains touristes que de la majorité des cubains,
Comparativement entre la RD et Cuba concernant la sécurité et bien je prends Cuba haut la main, non pas que les dominicains ne sont pas honnetes mais disons qu'il y a plus de corruptions, incluant les policiers et plus de secteur CHAUDS.
Mais je ne suis pas tout a fait d'accord avec Viajecuba, (sa m'arrive des fois et il le sait) concernant Varadero, Normal de voir une bande de lapins, et il en es ainsi dans la majorité des villes qui sont a caractères touristiques,
Mais je ne crois pas que c'est une ville a risque concernant la criminalité. Je cois que tu peux bien remettre quelqu'un a sa place d'une façon polit. tout en étant ferme.
Mais d'accord avec Viaje, je considères Varadero comme une ville terne, sans éclat, sauf une ville touristique ou tu auras de la difficulté a trouvé un cubain sauf dans un kiosque, LOL
Mais d'accord avec Viaje, je considères Varadero comme une ville terne, sans éclat, sauf une ville touristique ou tu auras de la difficulté a trouvé un cubain sauf dans un kiosque, LOL
Ce n'est pas parce que les choses sont difficiles que nous n'osons pas c'est parce que nous n'osons pas qu'elles sont difficiles
Bonjour,
on a tendance à généraliser d'un côté ou de l'autre:tous les touristes sont prétentieux envers la population ou tous les habitants des pays "émergents" sont arnaqueurs envers les voyageurs.Comme aussi de dire que les touristes s'agglutinent dans des all-inclusive où la population locale cherche à tirer profit. dès qu'un "pigeon" de pointe....
Bon, force est de constater que cela existe...
Pour ce qui est de la sécurité , je suis d'accord sur la situation Dominicaine que je connais bien:corruption+++++.Quant à Cuba, chacun s'accorde pour dire que c'est "clean".
La question était plus de savoir si mes filles et moi allions passer des vacances cool, que soit en campagne , à La Havane ou à Varadero (sachant très bien que ce"ghetto" à touristes vaut ce qu'il vaut) en étant consciente du climat ambiant.....
éviter de prendre des gens en stop
Bonjour,
dans la rubrique sur Cuba, j'ai souvent lu le contraire, des gens qui disaient "n'hésitez pas à vous arrêter". Est-ce parce que nous parlons là de 3 femmes que vous préconisez le contraire ?
merci
Bonjour,
dans la rubrique sur Cuba, j'ai souvent lu le contraire, des gens qui disaient "n'hésitez pas à vous arrêter". Est-ce parce que nous parlons là de 3 femmes que vous préconisez le contraire ?
merci
Faby
En ce qui me concerne , j'ai lu des témoignages de personnes qui se sont fait voler (sac, appareil photos ou autres) en prenant des auto-stoppeurs🙁 à Cuba
mais j'ai vu cela aussi dans le métro à Paris....
et ce n'est pas réservé aux femmes particulièrement😕
Comme c'est la première fois que je vais là-bas par mes propres moyens et avec mes filles , je préfère être au courant de ce qui pourrait arriver par manque de vigilance ou de bon sens...😇
je comprends tout à fait ta préoccupation.
et je suis un peu dans le même cas : 1er voyage à Cuba dans qq semaines, donc j'aimerais comprendre si c'est une bonne expérience de prendre des auto-stoppeurs ou pas.
jusqu'à présent j'avais plutôt compris qu'il ne fallait pas hésiter à s'arrêter...
Faby
Bonsoir,
si tu voyages seule il semble qu'il n'y ait aucun danger pour ta sécurité, d'après les avis que j'ai eu des personnes qui connaissent bien Cuba.Par contre, il faut être prudent pour certaines choses... va sur ce blog, même si l'on y relate un peu des situations caricaturales,
cela permet de se faire une petite idée:w.w.w.particuba.net.
Mieux vaut tenir que courir......😉
Disons qu'il faut un peu "sélectionner" les gens que l'on prend en stop...
Ne pas hésiter à prendre les femmes et leurs enfants, les écolier(e)s, les personnes âgées... En revanche éviter les jeunes hommes, surtout à 2 ou 3 : le plan classique, c'est que l'un d'entre eux détourne ton attention en parlant pendant que l'autre fait discrètement les sacs dans le cofre en glissant sa main sous la plage arrière...
On a toujours pris des stoppeurs à Cuba en suivant ces règles, jamais de problèmes et de très belles rencontres ! Et puis c'est un peu une nécessité pour éviter de se perdre...
Bon voyage
Ne pas hésiter à prendre les femmes et leurs enfants, les écolier(e)s, les personnes âgées... En revanche éviter les jeunes hommes, surtout à 2 ou 3 : le plan classique, c'est que l'un d'entre eux détourne ton attention en parlant pendant que l'autre fait discrètement les sacs dans le cofre en glissant sa main sous la plage arrière...
On a toujours pris des stoppeurs à Cuba en suivant ces règles, jamais de problèmes et de très belles rencontres ! Et puis c'est un peu une nécessité pour éviter de se perdre...
Bon voyage
Cyrille
Merci pour ce tuyau, on pensera à tjrs fermer nos bagages avec les cadenas, quand ils seront dans le coffre.
Pour le reste, le sac à dos avec les "valeurs", papiers, appareil photo, etc... voyage tjrs à mes pieds, ou sur mes genoux, et celui là aussi fermé avec cadenas.
ça peut pas être pire que dans les bus "pourris" de l'Amérique du Sud... 😉
Pour le reste, le sac à dos avec les "valeurs", papiers, appareil photo, etc... voyage tjrs à mes pieds, ou sur mes genoux, et celui là aussi fermé avec cadenas.
ça peut pas être pire que dans les bus "pourris" de l'Amérique du Sud... 😉
Faby
ça peut pas être pire que dans les bus "pourris" de l'Amérique du Sud...
😄 Effectivement ! Rien à voir... Quoi qu'en disent certains, tu vas trouver que les routes cubaines, c'est du velours...
😄 Effectivement ! Rien à voir... Quoi qu'en disent certains, tu vas trouver que les routes cubaines, c'est du velours...
Cyrille
Bonjour!
Nous sommes parties ma meilleure amie et moi en février 2008 à Cuba. Nous avons attéri à Varadero et nous avons visité; La Havanne, Pinard del Rio, Vinyales, Cienfego, Trinidad et Santa Clara.
Jamais nous ne nous sommes senties en danger. Il y a des policiers et l'armée à peu près partout et sincérement il n'y a aucun problème pour les femmes. Au contraire, les Cubains adorent les femmes! :-) Ils aiment vous complimenter, vous dire que vous êtes belles.
Après, à vous de savoir mettre la limite mais je vous promets que ce pays est sur.
Nous sommes souvent sorties le soir et jamais nous n'avons eu de souci.
voilà, profitez un max, ce pays est magnifique!
voilà, profitez un max, ce pays est magnifique!
Bonjour,
merci pour votre témoignage.
Je sais que le pays est très sécurisé et que les cubains sont sympas.
Mais comme il y a certaines personnes qui ont eu quelques "embûches ", , je voulais en savoir un peu plus et maintenant je suis consciente du contexte .
..... nous attendons avec impatience le départ.😎
Ah ça, je pense qu'il peut nous arriver malheur partout! :-) C'est une loterie.
Le meilleur conseil à vous donner est qu'il faut tjs être vigilant. Par exemple, ne laissez pas trainer vos affaires (vos sacs, etc) sur la banquette de la voiture. Il vaut mieux "cacher" un maximum. Idem si vous dormez chez l'habitant; je doute qu'il veuille vous voler mais par précaution, vaut mieux ne pas laisser trainer vos valeurs en évidence.
La vigilance ne coute rien et elle évite certaines tentations. :-)
Personnellement, j'ai tjs laisé mon passeport ou mon argent chez l'habitant (rangé dans une partie de mon sac à dos donc non visible à l'oeil) et je n'ai pas eu de problème.
Si vous louez une voiture et que vous avez de la place libre, c'est bien de prendre des femmes ou personnes âgées. Nous en avons pris tout au long de notre voyage, ça leur rend service et vous, ça vous permet de cotoyer les locaux! :-) Par contre, nous n'avons pris un homme qu'une seule fois; un militaire. Nous étions perdus à lL Havanne et nous l'avons pris avec nous. Il nous a aidé à trouver notre chemin. 🙂Toutefois, c'est générallement déconseillé de prendre des hommes surtout s'ils sont plusieurs. Je ne pourrai pas vous dire si c'est réellement dangereux ou non mais c'est une précaution! :-)
Après, il faut savoir que le régime communiste de Cuba fait que personne ne meure de faim, tout le monde a un toit et reçoit des soins médicaux. Tout le monde est sur le même pied d'égalité donc les Cubains ne manquent de "rien" si j'ose dire.
Simplement, les Cubains peuvent difficilement quitter leur pays. Ayant discuté avec pas mal d'entre eux, je pense que c'est ce qui les frustrent le plus; ils ne peuvent pas voir le reste du monde avec leur propres yeux.
Voilà! Profitez bien et goutez les succulens mojitos sans oublier quelques pas de salsa! :-)
Voilà! Profitez bien et goutez les succulens mojitos sans oublier quelques pas de salsa! :-)
Bonjour et merci pour vos conseils :nous allons avoir une petite voiture mais si possible nous ferons comme vous pour dépanner une femme qui a besoin d'être accompagnée.
et avec tous ces messages nous sommes bien préparés à la prudence pour certains aspects du voyage.
Donc, nous pourrons profiter au mieux de notre voyage😉
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We’re leaving in early November for a month.
Here’s our itinerary:
Arrival in Takhmau, then heading to:
Kampong Cham
Kratie – 2 days
Mondolkiri – 3 days
Ratanakiri – 3 days
Stung Treng – 1 day
Siem Reap – 4 days
Battambang – 1 day
Kampong Chhnang – 3 days
Kampot – 2 days
Islands (WE’RE HESITATING WHICH ONE?) – 4 DAYS
Phnom Penh – 2 days
That’s it! 😊
We’re backpacking… and we love spots that aren’t too touristy. If you’ve got any tips, we’re all ears!
Thanks
Hi there,
We’d like to stay in Switzerland for five days.
There are two of us (women).
We don’t know this country at all.
What cities or affordable spots would you recommend for visiting?
Cheap accommodation.
Looking for community-based options.
And being close to public transport.
Thanks for your tips and experiences!
Best regards.
Hi there,
I was wondering if anyone has taken a Rede Expressos bus from Lisbon Airport to Lagos, and if so, where exactly at the airport you need to board it? I’m worried I’ll get lost and miss my bus...
Hi again,
I’m adding more details to my info request. Here are two proposed itineraries. We’re hesitating:
Colombo - Unawatuna 2 days - Sinharaja 1 day - Bandarawela 2 days - Kandy 3 days - Dambulla 2 days - Wilpattu Park 1 day - Kalpitiya 3 days - Negombo 1 day
What should we change or add a day for to include Jaffna?
Or: Negombo 1 day - Anuradhapura 2 days - Jaffna 2 days - Sigiriya 2 days - Dambulla 1 day - Kandy 2 days - Ella 1 day - Galle 3 days For your advice. Is it better to finish in Galle or Kalpitiya? Thanks in advance! Nicole
Or: Negombo 1 day - Anuradhapura 2 days - Jaffna 2 days - Sigiriya 2 days - Dambulla 1 day - Kandy 2 days - Ella 1 day - Galle 3 days For your advice. Is it better to finish in Galle or Kalpitiya? Thanks in advance! Nicole
Hello everyone,
This is a warning message! I’d like to address it especially to young women traveling alone for the first time in India. Other travelers may react to my post based on their own experiences, but I think what I’m about to say shouldn’t be taken lightly—unless that’s what you’re looking for!
Last July, I traveled to Northern India. I stopped in Khajuraho to see the famous tantric temples. I stayed one night, and that was more than enough. Khajuraho is very touristy, but you should know that 80% of young Indian men there are "gigolos." Locals call these young men (aged 18 to 30) "playboys" or "Lapka" (which means "capture the woman" in Hindi)!!!
They approach tourists with kindness and politeness, offering tea or a motorcycle ride (which they’ve often gotten from generous Western female tourists) to waterfalls a few kilometers from Khajuraho or other tourist sites. After befriending you, they charm you—be careful, these are professionals who are very skilled at this; it’s all they do, and they do it well. They’ll offer you food, drinks, and even temple entry to confuse you. They’ll suggest spending the evening or even the night with them. **Refuse (unless you’re into local flings and that’s why you came)!!!!**
At first, you’ll be seduced by their generosity, let your guard down, and then they’ll make you believe in *true love*. They won’t leave you alone and will keep in touch via email or phone if you give them your details. The lines they use to soften you up and scam you include: *"I’m the only one taking care of my family, my brother is sick, I don’t know what to do..."* All of this is to manipulate you into offering them money. They’ll never ask for it outright (to avoid being exposed) but will wait for you to suggest it.
If you receive emails from them, they’ll never be signed, and their name won’t appear in the email address (to avoid leaving traces). They use fake names to avoid being reported. If you believe their sob stories and offer help, they’ll give you a bank account number to send money via Western Union. These young men make a living from this—selling their bodies and scamming people! They’re very skilled, charming, manipulative, and *big-time cheaters*!
(Especially one young man who goes by the alias *Tony*—apparently the most skilled. He lives in a hotel near the lake, *Krishna Cottage*, and is in regular contact via Skype with Western women he’s tricked into believing he loves them while shamelessly scamming them. He even opened an internet café on the roof of the hotel with money he stole from women who fell for his charm.)
So, young romantic women craving love, sensitive singles, or anyone emotionally vulnerable—**don’t let yourself be scammed!!!** This behavior is becoming more common in India and is still relatively unknown. Male prostitution is on the rise, and cases of romantic scams and financial fraud by gigolos are increasing.
This is a warning message! I’d like to address it especially to young women traveling alone for the first time in India. Other travelers may react to my post based on their own experiences, but I think what I’m about to say shouldn’t be taken lightly—unless that’s what you’re looking for!
Last July, I traveled to Northern India. I stopped in Khajuraho to see the famous tantric temples. I stayed one night, and that was more than enough. Khajuraho is very touristy, but you should know that 80% of young Indian men there are "gigolos." Locals call these young men (aged 18 to 30) "playboys" or "Lapka" (which means "capture the woman" in Hindi)!!!
They approach tourists with kindness and politeness, offering tea or a motorcycle ride (which they’ve often gotten from generous Western female tourists) to waterfalls a few kilometers from Khajuraho or other tourist sites. After befriending you, they charm you—be careful, these are professionals who are very skilled at this; it’s all they do, and they do it well. They’ll offer you food, drinks, and even temple entry to confuse you. They’ll suggest spending the evening or even the night with them. **Refuse (unless you’re into local flings and that’s why you came)!!!!**
At first, you’ll be seduced by their generosity, let your guard down, and then they’ll make you believe in *true love*. They won’t leave you alone and will keep in touch via email or phone if you give them your details. The lines they use to soften you up and scam you include: *"I’m the only one taking care of my family, my brother is sick, I don’t know what to do..."* All of this is to manipulate you into offering them money. They’ll never ask for it outright (to avoid being exposed) but will wait for you to suggest it.
If you receive emails from them, they’ll never be signed, and their name won’t appear in the email address (to avoid leaving traces). They use fake names to avoid being reported. If you believe their sob stories and offer help, they’ll give you a bank account number to send money via Western Union. These young men make a living from this—selling their bodies and scamming people! They’re very skilled, charming, manipulative, and *big-time cheaters*!
(Especially one young man who goes by the alias *Tony*—apparently the most skilled. He lives in a hotel near the lake, *Krishna Cottage*, and is in regular contact via Skype with Western women he’s tricked into believing he loves them while shamelessly scamming them. He even opened an internet café on the roof of the hotel with money he stole from women who fell for his charm.)
So, young romantic women craving love, sensitive singles, or anyone emotionally vulnerable—**don’t let yourself be scammed!!!** This behavior is becoming more common in India and is still relatively unknown. Male prostitution is on the rise, and cases of romantic scams and financial fraud by gigolos are increasing.
hi everyone! I’d like to visit Montreal and the surrounding areas in August, and I’ve got 3 weeks of vacation. I’m traveling alone and will be visiting my daughter, who recently moved there. She’ll be working and only available in the evenings! So I’m torn between spending a week in Montreal, then taking a flight to Cuba, and returning to France from Havana—or staying in Montreal and exploring the nearby areas alone.
For my first idea—going to Cuba—is it feasible in terms of administrative formalities and legality? And for my second idea, is it possible to take buses? If so, is it too expensive? And are there many places served by them?
Thanks for your advice! Jocelyne
For my first idea—going to Cuba—is it feasible in terms of administrative formalities and legality? And for my second idea, is it possible to take buses? If so, is it too expensive? And are there many places served by them?
Thanks for your advice! Jocelyne
From FES, I’d like to spend a few days in:
MEKNES
CHEFCHAOUEN
TETOUAN
and then return to FES.
I’m planning this trip in November.
Thanks for your tips!
I just got back from an unforgettable road trip in Madagascar where I drove down the legendary RN7. It connects Tana (the capital) to Tulear.
Since we were traveling as a group of girls, we decided to go with a guide. I’d never done an “organized” trip before, but I have to say we loved this first tailor-made travel experience.
From the highlands of the Red Island
down to the west coast, by the Mozambique Channel.
Vast landscapes as far as the eye can see
Human encounters
Discovering ancestral artisanal know-how
Sunsets over the ochre mountains
Intense, precious moments with my friends
We loved the mountains, visits to artisans, and the parties too ;-)
We used local guides to show us specific spots (like Isalo National Park, where we were able to bivouac)
Hi there,
My friend and I are traveling together between October and November 2025—no exact dates yet.
We’d love to step away from the typical travel agency packages and are hoping to rent a car locally and stay with locals, living with them rather than in a vacation rental.
Does anyone know if this is possible? Thanks in advance for your advice and tips! Warm regards to all
Does anyone know if this is possible? Thanks in advance for your advice and tips! Warm regards to all




