Bonjour,
nous partons 2 mois avec deux enfants de 10 et 12 ans, avec sacs à dos et guide en poche.... nous arrivons à Sumatra (medan) le 20 juin 2008 et repartons de Bali le 20 aout.
nous souhaitons faire une partie de sumatra, java, bali, iles gili, florès.
Faut-il réserver des hôtels (cat. moyen) à l'avance?
nous avons consulté quelques parcours sur des blogs et nous sommes preneurs de bons plans, d'exemple de séjours, d'infos sur les hôtels, restaurants...club de plongée, et des lieux hors des sentiers touristiques .
merci pour vos conseils 😉
bonjour
j ai passe 2 mois en indonesie avec mes 3 enfants 10 a 15 ans;
pas la peine de reserver
medan nest pas super
ils prefereont bali ou on a plonge
rinca etait tres bien avec les varans ou on est reste 3 j sur place .
on est pas mal reste a flores ou on louait des bateau x a yakobus a labuhanbajo pour la journee et on achetait des poulets pour faire griller sur les iles.de la on a fait 4 j de bateau pur les gilis
nous on a passe 2 mois assez peinards au rythme des enfants
si vous allez a flores, il faut prevoir palme masque tuba et les ceder au depart
attention aux trajets en bemo, ça risque d etre un peu long pour les enfants!
ma fille a appris la danse balinaise, sympa!
Merci COMEON les hôtels me posaient soucis ...
www.voyageindonesie.net c'est un lien très intéressant (c'est même le premier que j'avais consulté dans une de tes discutions) par contre rien d'indiqué pour chambre familliale ! eh oui dur de partir à quatre!
merci Olivierb Nous comptons prendre du bon temps aussi sur les îles !
As-tu facilement trouvé des logements / chambres pour 4 ? si t'as des adresses voire des prix je suis preneur :)
Sur Sumatra nous avons beaucoup aimé Pulau Weh dans la province de Banda Aceh snorkeling et plongée de grande beauté pour plus d'info pour s'y rendre m'écrire.Autrement les classiques de l'ile sont tous trés sympas savoir que fin juin les indonésiens sont en vacances et qu'ils voyagent prévoir des résas à 4 ainsi que pour les transports.Nous y serons aussi fin juin .Pas beaucoup d'occidentaux cependant, prendre son temps pour visiter cette grande ile.A Bali en aout c'est la folie surtout Kuta. les gili idem .A Java les volcans sont pour les enfants passionnants, Jojakarta ville qui ne laisse personne indifferant, eviter Jakarta .Tout faire en 2 mois me parait juste en temps .
Pour les chambres familiales il faudra prendre une triple et demander à ce qu'on ajoute un petit lit ou un matelat, ils ne refuseront jamais ( client oblige ). Peut-être qu'il te faudra payer un petit sus. met tu pourras toujours négocier.
dans tte l asie du sud est, on trouve des chambres a 3.5 dollars pour 2; tu peux en prendre 2!
a kuta je vais a gorabeach inn 3.5dollars bungalow; a amed tu peux aller chez marie adik saya garden 15 dollars pour 5; a labuhanbajo l hotel éloigné sandana; a rinca chez les rangers (env 7 dollars la chambre?)
mais tt ça c est dans les guides;
ne reserves pas!
a medan, le cheap hotel est crade mais vraiement cheap!
olivier
Mai 2004 - Sumatra
Me 5/05/2004 Malacca bateau 9h30, 20€. Arrivée Dumai 11h45. Bus pour Pekanbaru 4€ trajet 4h Hôtel Unedo douche + fan 5, 5€ Je 6/05 bus pour Bukkitinggi 2€ trajet 8h! Hôtel Bamboo Homestay douche 2, 5€ (eau chaude + 0, 5€)
Ve 7/05, Sa 8/05, Di 9/05 et Lu 10/05 Excursion à la découverte des Minangkabau 6, 5€ de 8h30 à 18h. Taxi pour Harau canyon de 12h à 17h 10€. Public bus pour lac Maninjau 0, 5€ trajet 1h30.
Ma 11/05 avion Padang-Medan 30€ départ B.tinggi 7h arrivée Medan 11h Hôtel Zakia douche + fan 3€
Me 12/05 minibus pour lac Toba 4, 5€ trajet 3h30. Bateau pour Tuktuk 0, 4€ trajet 0h30. Hôtel Bagus Bay douche 2, 5€
Je 13/05, Ve 14/05 et Sa 15/05 île de Samosir moto 5€/j
Di 16/05 bateau + minibus pour Siantar 0, 5€ + public bus pour Kabanjahe 0, 6€ + oplet pour Berastagi 0, 1€ trajet total 5h Hôtel Losmen Sibayak 2, 5€ (+douche chaude 0, 2€)
Lu 17/05 visite de Cingkes (sans intérêt) et de Lingga (dans un drôle d'état)
Ma 18/05 minibus-taxi pour Medan 3€ trajet 2h
Me 19/05 avion pour Batan 38€ trajet 1h10 + taxi port de Sekupang 5, 5€ trajet 0h30 + bateau pour Singapore 9, 5€ trajet 1h
NB je conseille d'organiser votre itinéraire dans l'autre sens et de démarrer par Medan en venant de Penang (par ex) et de terminer à Dumai pour Malacca (par ex) car la région de B.Tinggi est à mon avis la plus intéressante suivie par l'île de Samosir (architecture et tombes Batak Danau) Berastagi - à part ses volcans et la proximité de Bukit Lawang pour ceux qui veulent absolument voir des Orang Outangs semi-sauvage - ne possède déjà plus d'architectures en "bon état".
Les prix sont donnés en € il suffit de mettre 4 zéros derrière pour obtenir la somme en rupias
Mai-Juin 2005 - Indonésie
Jour 1 : Arrivée Jakarta 13h10 (Eva Air Paris-Tapei-Jakarta retour par Denpasar 714 Euro) Bus de l'aéroport (a 200m a gauche en sortant) pour la gare de Gambir. A pied jusqu'a Jalan Jaksa 15'. Kresna Homestay 35.000Rp fan/sans sdb, basic mais sympa, calme.
Jour 2 - 3 : séjour a Jakarta. Aller-retour Bogor : aller de Gambir train direct 1h 5.000Rp/retour train Ekonomi (tout un poeme) 2.500Rp 1 ne s'arrete pas a Gambir, descendre a Gondangdia d'ou on peut aller jusqu'a Kota pour 1.000Rp. De Kota train station le bus Transjakarta file droit au sud jusqu'a Bloc M pour 2.500Rp, raoide (il a sa bande de circulation) et climatisé.
Jour 4 : 10h30 train 45.000Rp 13h30 Bandung beaux paysages. Hotel By Moritz fan/sans sdb/ptdéj/calme, basic mais sympa.
Jour 5 - 6 : séjour Bandung, Art Déco.
Jour 7 : 8h00 train 75.000Rp 15h30 Jogjakarta beaux paysages Hotel Selekta (Sosro) 35.000Rp sdb/fan/ptdéj, calme.
Jour 8 : bus 13h10 10.000Rp 14h40 Borobodur Lotus G. H. 45.000Rp sdb/fan/ptdéj, calme. Location vélo "sans freins" 5.000Rp
Jour 9 : visite du site de Borobodur (bagus = super) 10 US dollar. Bus retour a Jogja Hotel Metro (Prawirotaman) 50.000Rp sdb/fan/petitdej/piscine de 16m, calme.
Jours 10 - 11 - 12 - 13 : piscine, Prambanam 10 US dollar. piscine, Kraton, piscine, Parangiritis bus 10.000Rp, piscine, bus Imogiri ( ! ouvert Ve PM et Lu AM) 10.000Rp. piscine, Jogja, piscine. Restos Via Via et Andalas (a 300m sur J. Parangtritis en allant vers le centre, cuisine Padang)
Jour 14 : Jogja bus 5.000Rp 2h de trajet Solo Hotel Westerners 35.000Rp sdb/fan calme.
Jour 15 : séjour a Solo visite des 2 Kraton
Jour 16 : excursion a Candi Sukuh : bus pour Karangpandan 3.000Rp 1h + minibus pour Kemuning 2.000Rp 20' + 30' de marche pente tres raide (cranez pas prenez une ojek/moto pour 2.000Rp)
Jour 17 : 7h10 bus 33.000Rp 6h de trajet Blitar hotel Sri Lestari classe et tres cher 80.000Rp sdb pas de fan pas de ptdéj ! pas trop calme réveil enfants 6h du mat ! Plus on paye cher moins on recoit. Hotel Sri Rejekil moins cher (30-40.000Rp) a 700m de la gare a droite en sortant. Excursion a Panataran microlet orange a droite du marché 4.000Rp 45'
Jour 18 : 13h train 4.000Rp Ekonomi 2h30 de trajet Blitar Hotel Menara 60.000Rp sdb/ptdéj/ (évitez les hotels Hélios et Palem, trop chers pour confort tres rudimentaire)
Jour 19-20-21 : séjour a Malang. Ville intéressante pour son architecture coloniale et Art Déco. A ne pas manquer l'hotel Tugu Park, petit musée et décoration top. Excursion a Singosari et Sumberawan : casse pas trois pattes a un canard pour en plus de déplacements tres variés (2 microlet + 2 ojek)
Jour 22 : bus 9.000Rp pour Probolinggo 2h15 de trajet attente d'1h minibus 10.000Rp pour Cemoro Lawang (Bromo) 1h30 de trajet hotel Cafe Lava 70.000Rp sdb(eau chaude!)/ptdé, calme
Jour 23 : levé 4h du mat jeep a 5 (175.000Rp) pour le Gunung Penanjakan, levé de soleil sur le site du Bromo : grandiode
Jour 24 : bus de 8h30 pour Probolinggo. Train de 11h02 pour Surabaya Ekonomi 18.000Rp (!) 2h de trajet Hotel Paviljoen 71.500Rp sdb/fan/ptdéj, calme. A voir l'hotel Majapahit pour sa déco et pas mal d'autres immeubles de style Art Déco. Circulation dantesque.
Jour 25 : bateau de 15hoo pour Makassar (Sulawési) 332.400Rp en classe 1 AC/douche chaude/3 repas. Evitez les classes ékonomi et 3 véritables fumoirs et bruyant.
En résumé : peut etre un peu long comme traversée de Java.
Conseil : de l'aéroport, gagnez directement la gare de Gambir et filez sur Bandung. Le lendemain prenez le train pour Jogjakarta. Visite de Borobodur en une matinée. Visite de Solo + Prambanam en une journée aller-retour. Zappez Blitar et Malang. De Jogja il y a un train a 7h15 qui arrive a Surabaya a 13h de la un autre train ou bus pour Probolinggo (Bromo), De Probolinggo un train part vers 11h pour arriver a Banyuwangi a 15h24
Jour 1 : arrivée vers 17h30 a Makassar en provenance de Surabaya avec le Lambelu. Prix 214.000Rp en classe 3 upgradé en classe 1 + 118.000Rp. 26 h de trajet. Hotel Pondo Suanda Indah 100.000Rp AC/sdb/Ptdj/calme mais triste
Jour 2 : changement d'hotel Legend Hostel 39.000Rp fan/sdb/ptdéj/calme
Jour 3 : Réservation bus Alam Indah et transfert organisés par le Legend 50.000Rp. Attention le terminal est a 25km. 1h de trajet. Arrivée a Rantepao vers 17h30. Hotel Wisma Monton 60.000Rp sdb eau chaude/ptdéj/pas calme (chiens et coqs).
Jour 4 - 5 - 6 - 7 - 8 - 9 : changement d'hotel Wisma Maria 30.000Rp sdb seau d'eau chaude/grand ptdéj/pas calme (toujours les chiens et les coqs mais c'est partout pareil a Rantepao).
Points forts : Palawa (village) - Lemo (tautau) - Tampangallo (grotte avec tautau et ossements dans cadre naturel des plus jolis) - XXX (secret). Location de vélo (pas en bon état, vitesses) 20.000Rp/j. Restos Mart's café - Mambo Restaurant.
Jour 10 : Bus Alam Indah 40.000Rp déart 8h30 (prévu 7h30!) arrivée a Makassar vers 17h.Galere 2 bémos a 2.000Rp pour rejoindre le centre. Legend Hostel
Jour 11 : Départ bateau Awu pour Maumere (Flores) 117.000Rp classe 2 changement de cabine car ronfleur + 50.000Rp cabine du docteur
Jour 1 : arrivée a 21h a Maumere en provenance de Makassar par le Awu. Drole d’ambiance a l’arrivée dans le noir! Hotel Wini Rai 66.000Rp sdb/fan/ptdéj/pas calme (on y fait le ménage a 4h du mat!)
Jour 2 : bus pour Moni 20.000Rp trajet 3h “hotel” Watugana 30.000Rp sdb seau d’eau chaude/ptdéj/calme a condition de demander au patron et a ses copains d’aller jouer aux cartes ailleurs que devant votre chambre.
Jour 3 : levé 4h du mat pour aller voir le Kelimutu 15.000Rp aller et 15.000Rp retour. Pas de chance, nuages. Prévoir 2 jours a Moni au cas ou …nuages. Partage frais voiture 50.000Rp pour Bajawa. Trajet a tombeau ouvert (tué un chiot) en 4h20. Hotel Korina “sdb”/ptdéj/calme. Réclame supplément pour seau d’eau chaude! Bons restos Padang face au marché.
Jour 4 : visite du village de Wogo. Aller 2 bémos 5.000R + 1.000Rp. Retour 1 bémo 3.000Rp!
Jour 5 : Bus pour Ruteng 20.000Rp trajet 4h30 Hotel Sinda 55.000Rp sdb/ptdéj/calme a condition que personne n’arrive a 3h du mat en parlant fort dans la chamber voisine de la votre. Les champs de riz en forme de toile d’araignée a Cancar ne cassent pas trois pattes a un canard (bebek en indonésien).
Jour 6 ; embarqué dans le bus pour Labuanbajo a 7h35 Départ du bus a 10h15! 20.000Rp. Trajet +- 4h. Hotel Chez Félix sdb/fan/ptdéj/ calme a condition … cf jour 5 mais a 2h du mat, faut un peu varié les plaisirs de la vie en commun. Superbe vue de la salle a manger sur la superbe baie de Labuanbajo.
Jour 7 : achat ticket pour bateau du lendemain. !!! Ne pas acheter son billet dans la pseudo agence Pelni ils vous font payer tres cher un bout de papier a échanger le jour du départ contre un ticket en bonne et due forme au guichet de la Pelni dans le port, guichet qui est ouvert la veille du départ.
Jour 8 : départ du bateau T.Kabila a 6h20 (normalement prévu a 8h! vérifier les horaires j’en connais un qui attend toujours le bateau et qui a donc été mené en bateau) 375.000Rp classe 1 jusqu’a Lembar (Lombk) trajet 23h
Jour 1 : arrivée vers 5h00 à Lembar (Lombok) en provenance de Labuanbajo (Flores) avec le T.Kabila. 6h30 ferry pour Padangbai 15.000Rp 4h30 de trajet. Bemo pour Candidasa 3.000Rp (prix arraché) Flamboyant Bungalows 50.000Rp sdb/fan/ptdéj/calme.
Jour 2 : location de vélo 20.000Rp (cher) excursion à Tirtagangga
Jour 3 : Bemo pour Amlapura 3.000Rp. Bemo pour Tulamben 5.000Rp Puri Aries Bungalows 40.000Rp sdb/fan/ptdéj/calme location palme et masque 20.000Rp
Jour 4 : bemo pour Singaraja 15.000Rp transfert entre terminal 2.000Rp Bemo pour Lovina 3.000Rp Hotel Astina 40.000Rp sdb/fan/ptdéj/piscine 12m/calme Recommandé
Jour 5-6-7 : location vélo 15.000Rp
Jour 8 : public bus de Singaraja à près de Ubud 20.000Rp + bemo 3.000Rp. Kori Bali Inn 60.000Rp sdb/eauchaude/fan/ptdéj/calme
/recommandé.
Jour 9 à 14 : Ubud location vélo 15.000Rp
Jour 15 : shuttel bus Perama pour airport 30.000Rp+5.000Rp pick-up trajet 1h20
"Nous ne sommes plus une communauté d'être humains qui se parlent mais un conglomérat de grappes de consommateurs en niches, séparés les uns des autres par des obsessions diverses et innombrables. Nous sommes de l'ère de la désintégration." Marc Moulin (1942-2008) in Humoeurs
bonjour
indonesienne habitée vaucluse depuis 23ans mais je me rendre une fois par an chez moi à bandung west java. Bienvenue en Indonesie, j'espère que vous allez passer un tres agreable vacances.
Sumatra tres grand mais medan c vrai, pas tres jolie apart lake toba. sumatra au sud, plus interessant. Java aussi, chez mi nous avons le crater, volcan, et beaucoup outlets....les magasins d'usines, tres bien. apres centre de java ca va surtout jogyakarta, puis bali, komodo, oups, même jakarta il y a toujours des places pour les enfants jouent.
A propos des hotels, je ne sais pas ailleurs, mais à java, les periodes juillet aout sont des vacances scolaire local, alors des gens reserves pas mal, il faut mieux s'y preparer quand même, et vous pouvez passer par les agences voyages indonesien pour avoir les prix tres interessants
Je suis joignable si vous avez besoin des infos plus ample.
Pas besoin de vraiment réserver en France, en tous cas, nous ne l'avons pas fait (juste la première nuit). On peut se déplacer en train, en bus, en voiture avec chauffeur, ou marcher bien sûr. Les billets de train se prennent directement dans les cars. Là où vous logez vous avez la possibilité de demander un chauffeur pour vous emmener là où vous voulez ou faire un circuit.
Sinon, Java est une grande île, de Jakarta à l'Est il faut environ 8 heures de train. Jakarta n'a aucun intérêt, par contre Jogjakarta est très sympa, le temple de Borobudur est un incontournable, et évidemment les volcans Bromo et Kawa Ijen. Il y a aussi des parcs nationaux à l'Est où on peut faire des activités très diverses.
A Bali, il y a toujours les volcans, les temples, le spectacle du Ramayana, le tour de l'île se fait assez rapidement. La voiture avec chauffeur est un moyen idéal, il vous arrête où vous voulez et vous attend !
A Florès, il faut aller voir les 3 lacs de Kelimutu et puis bien sûr le fameux varan ! Les volcans encore et toujours. Bena est un village traditionne typique. On s'y déplace surtout en bus.
"Un voyageur est une espèce d'historien; son devoir est de raconter fidèlement ce qu'il a vu ou ce qu'il a entendu dire; il ne doit rien inventer, mais aussi il ne doit rien omettre."
(Chateaubriand)
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I wanted to share our experience after a 5-day trip to Armenia with my wife and our 8-month-old baby.
It’s a destination that’s still relatively unknown, but it’s really worth the trip, especially if you enjoy cultural, spiritual, historical, and human-centered travel.
We were looking for a change of scenery but not too complicated with a baby—and easy to organize (even though our travel agency helped us a lot, thanks to them! 😊). In the end, Armenia was a wonderful surprise. It’s not a "postcard-perfect" destination. It’s a raw, mountainous, ancient country with real depth.
And most importantly: Armenians *love* children.
That’s probably what surprised us the most. In restaurants, waitresses, owners, or even other customers would naturally come over to play with our baby, hold them for a few minutes, smile at them, or keep them entertained while we ate.
It wasn’t intrusive. It was very natural, very family-oriented. You can tell that children have a real place in society. For parents traveling with a baby, it’s honestly a pleasure.
Day 1 — Yerevan
We started with Yerevan, a pleasant capital that’s quite easy to explore with a child.
The city isn’t huge. You can stroll around Republic Square, visit cafés, discover markets, and walk at a relaxed pace.
With a baby, it’s pretty practical: you can easily take breaks, return to the hotel, or go back out in the evening. The vibe is laid-back, family-friendly, and we felt safe.
In the evening, Yerevan is very lively. The restaurants are welcoming, and almost everywhere, our baby drew smiles.
Day 2 — Etchmiadzin and Khor Virap
On the second day, we headed to Etchmiadzin, the spiritual heart of Armenia. It’s an important place for understanding the country and its Christian identity.
Then, we visited Khor Virap, facing Mount Ararat.
It’s probably one of the most striking places on the trip. The monastery, the plain, the distant Ararat—everything is visually and symbolically powerful.
With a baby, you just need to plan a relaxed pace, avoid rushing, and take your time.
Day 3 — Garni and Geghard
The third day was one of our favorites.
We visited the Temple of Garni, very different from the monasteries, with a stunning setting in the mountains.
Then we went to Geghard, a monastery partially carved into the rock.
The atmosphere is incredible. It’s quiet, mineral, almost timeless. Even if you’re not very religious, you feel something.
With a child, the visit goes well, but again, it’s best not to overload the day. The key is to keep a flexible pace.
Day 4 — Noravank
On the fourth day, we headed to Noravank.
The road itself is an experience: dry landscapes, mountains, red rocks, valleys. The monastery is surrounded by impressive cliffs.
It’s one of the most beautiful sites we saw in Armenia.
You really get the sense that Armenian monasteries were built in impossible places—between sky, stone, and mountain.
Along the way, you can also pass through the Areni region, known for its wine. With a baby, we mostly prioritized simple breaks, relaxed meals, and uncompressed travel times.
Day 5 — Lake Sevan and return to Yerevan
For the last day, we went to Lake Sevan.
The lake is vast, bright, and surrounded by mountains. The Sevanavank Monastery, up high, offers a beautiful view.
It’s a gentler stop, perfect for ending the trip.
Then we returned to Yerevan for a final dinner. Once again, the welcome in restaurants stood out. In Armenia, traveling with a baby isn’t seen as a hassle. On the contrary, people spontaneously come up to the child.
Our overall impression
In 5 days, you obviously don’t see all of Armenia. To reach Tatev, Dilijan, Haghpat, or Sanahin, you’d need more like 7 to 10 days.
But for a first visit, 5 days are enough to feel the essence: Yerevan, the major monasteries, Mount Ararat, the landscapes, the Christian history, and the Armenian hospitality.
What we loved most:
- the kindness of people toward our baby;
- the very family-friendly atmosphere;
- the monasteries in incredible landscapes;
- the view of Mount Ararat from Khor Virap;
- the atmosphere of Geghard;
- the cliffs of Noravank;
- the food;
- the feeling of safety;
- the fact that the country is still relatively untouched by mass tourism.
What to know when traveling with a baby:
- distances can be longer than expected;
- some roads are mountainous;
- avoid overloading the day;
- it’s better to have a driver or a car;
- plan for breaks, water, diapers, baby meals;
- a stroller isn’t always practical on ancient sites;
- a baby carrier can be very useful.
Recommended 5-day itinerary
For a first trip, I’d suggest:
Day 1: Yerevan
Day 2: Etchmiadzin + Khor Virap
Day 3: Garni + Geghard
Day 4: Noravank + Areni
Day 5: Sevan + return to Yerevan
It’s balanced, not too tiring, and gives a great first impression of the country.
Conclusion
Armenia is a wonderful destination with a baby, as long as you travel slowly and don’t try to see everything.
What touched us most, beyond the landscapes and monasteries, was the attitude toward children. There, you feel that babies are welcomed with real tenderness. In restaurants, people naturally helped us, played with our child, and gave us a few minutes to breathe.
That’s rare, and it makes a big difference in the travel experience.
Armenia isn’t a destination you consume quickly.
It’s a country that you *feel*.
For those who love cultural, spiritual, historical, family, and human-centered travel, I highly recommend it.
I’ve read the forum a lot and found a wealth of information. I’ve tried to compile all of it into our itinerary and would love your feedback to finalize the bookings (we’re planning this *very* last-minute).
Here’s what we’re thinking of doing:
22 July: arrival in Johannesburg
Night of 22–23: Johannesburg
Nights of 23–26: Marloth Park (with Kruger visits on the 24th, 25th, and a crossing visit on the 26th)
Nights of 26–28: Graskop (visiting the canyon and Panorama Road on the 27th and 28th)
Nights of 28–30: Hoedspruit (visiting the central area of Kruger on the 29th?)
Nights of 30 July–1 August: Balule Park (private reserve with safari)
Nights of 1–5 August: flight from Hoedspruit to Cape Town, then 2 days in Cape Town, 1 day on the peninsula, and 2 days for wine (just the route) or something else based on your advice (we don’t know where to stay—whether to stay all 5 nights in Cape Town and where in the city, or do 2 nights in Cape Town and 3 nights nearby—but where?)
Night of 5–6 August: Kelders for penguins and whales
Nights of 6–8 August: Tsitsikamma (what is there to do/see?)
Nights of 8–10 August: Addo Park on the 9th
10 August: flight from Port Elizabeth to Johannesburg and back home
What do you think?
Is there a lot of driving time?
We’d really appreciate your comments and suggestions.
Thanks!
Hi everyone,
We're heading to Colombia soon for two weeks as a family with our two 10-year-old boys. I'm a bit behind on planning our itinerary and could really use your advice!
We arrive in Cartagena, where we'll spend 3 nights.
Next, we're heading to the Tayrona area for 3 nights. Could you recommend a nice hotel with a pool, ideally family-friendly? Unfortunately, Senda Watapuy and Senda Koguiwa are already fully booked for our dates.
After that, we were thinking of spending a few days in Minca. Is that a good idea in late July/early August? How many nights would you recommend?
Finally, we're looking for a last stop before returning to France. We've heard about Mompox, but we're hesitant because it seems like a big detour. We love nature, animals, beautiful landscapes, beaches, and authentic places. Do you think Mompox is worth the detour with two kids, or would you recommend another destination (Palomino, Barú, La Guajira...) instead?
We don’t want to take any domestic flights.
Thanks in advance for all your tips and experiences!
This summer, we’ve decided to do a 3-week road trip starting from Nice and heading down to Ksamil in Albania.
We’re leaving from Nice, and our route is already pretty much set:
Nice - Verona (Italy) - Rijeka (Croatia) - Zadar - Split - Budva (Montenegro) - Shkodër (Albania) - Ksamil, then back through Italy via Bari.
The itinerary is packed! 🙂
Do you have any suggestions for things to see—visits, beaches, viewpoints, villages, or excursions—to make the most of our journey?
Hi there, we're planning our vacation in Indonesia. We're a family with two kids aged 11 and 14. We leave on July 26th and return on August 17th, 2026.
We initially planned to visit Bali, Komodo, and Flores, but after looking into it more, we came across Sumatra, which is less touristy... a real plus for us. However, skipping Bali might be a shame.
I was wondering if spending 12 days in Sumatra and finishing with about 7 days in Bali is a doable plan.
Hi,
I’m traveling with my 5-year-old son this summer to Northern Thailand, Northern Vietnam, Yunnan, and Indonesia. I plan to equip him with a GPS tracker, but the SIM cards come with a contract. Do you know what the options are in Asia?
Thanks,
Nora
Hi there,
We’d like to spend 2 days in Lyon in May with our 8- and 12-year-old kids, exploring the city on foot.
We’ll arrive on day 1 around 11 AM and leave on day 2 around 6 PM.
I’ve mapped out two routes and was wondering if they’re doable in our 2 days, and if you have any tips or info on visit prices.
We’re not sure where to stay yet, but we’d like to optimize by booking accommodation (hotel or Airbnb) between the two routes, maybe?
Hi there!
I’m planning a trip with my wife and our three kids (ages 9, 6, and 3) from April 16 to May 6.
I’ve started sketching out the itinerary, trying to alternate between visits, hikes, safaris, and downtime. I want to keep the pace relaxed given the kids’ ages.
Could you let me know what you think of this route? I removed Nuwara Eliya, which I had originally planned before Ella, to cut down on stops. I was also wondering if I should break up the Arugam Bay to Colombo leg with an overnight in Galle, since it’s a long drive.
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
Day 1 – 04/16: Wilpattu
Arrival at the airport (08:00) + transfer to Wilpattu (180 km, 4–5 h) + afternoon safari
Overnight: Wilpattu
Day 2 – 04/17: Wilpattu
Morning & afternoon safari
Overnight: Wilpattu
Day 3 – 04/18: Trincomalee
Transfer Wilpattu → Trincomalee (200 km, 4–5 h) + beach relaxation
Overnight: Trincomalee
Day 4 – 04/19: Trincomalee
Nilaveli Beach
Overnight: Trincomalee
Day 5 – 04/20: Trincomalee
Pigeon Island snorkeling
Overnight: Trincomalee
Day 6 – 04/21: Trincomalee
Fort Frederick & relaxation
Overnight: Trincomalee
Day 7 – 04/22: Sigiriya
Transfer Trincomalee → Sigiriya (120 km, ~3 h) + visit to Dambulla
Overnight: Sigiriya
Day 8 – 04/23: Sigiriya
Sigiriya Rock
Overnight: Sigiriya
Day 9 – 04/24: Sigiriya
Minneriya safari
Overnight: Sigiriya
Day 10 – 04/25: Sigiriya
Polonnaruwa & village tour
Overnight: Sigiriya
Day 11 – 04/26: Ella
Transfer Sigiriya → Ella (230 km, 5–6 h) + rest
Overnight: Ella
Day 12 – 04/27: Ella
Little Adam’s Peak & Nine Arches Bridge
Overnight: Ella
Day 13 – 04/28: Ella
Ella Rock
Overnight: Ella
Day 14 – 04/29: Ella
Tea Factory & relaxation
Overnight: Ella
Day 15 – 04/30: Yala
Transfer Ella → Yala (110 km, 2–3 h) + afternoon safari
Overnight: Yala
Day 16 – 05/01: Arugam Bay
Transfer Yala → Arugam Bay (80 km, 2.5–3 h) + beach time
Overnight: Arugam Bay
Day 17 – 05/02: Arugam Bay
Surfing & relaxation
Overnight: Arugam Bay
Day 18 – 05/03: Arugam Bay
Local exploration
Overnight: Arugam Bay
Day 19 – 05/04: Colombo
Transfer Arugam Bay → Colombo (320 km, 7–8 h) + rest
Overnight: Colombo
Day 20 – 05/05: Colombo
City tour & shopping
Overnight: Colombo
Day 21 – 05/06: Colombo
Morning return flight from Colombo
We’re heading to Sri Lanka for three weeks in July with two kids (ages 6 and 13).
We’ve drafted a rough itinerary but would love to hear from those who’ve already been there 😊
Of course, we want to see everything, but we have to make choices—even though three weeks on the ground lets us do quite a bit.
We originally planned a schedule that felt too packed, so we had to cut one stop. We decided to skip Tangalle, even though we were really tempted. The monsoon won’t let us swim there, and the weather in the south is too uncertain, so we preferred to keep our stops on the east coast. Plus, we don’t think it’s reasonable to cut nights from other places.
We’ve added a stop in Batticaloa, which we think will be a nice break between Arugam Bay and Sigiriya. What do you think?
We’re also debating between Batticaloa and Passikudah.
Does the itinerary seem logical to you?
Here it is:
Sri Lanka Itinerary
Day 1
Arrival around 1 PM at the airport
Night in Negombo
Day 2
Drive from Negombo to Galle
Visit Galle and surrounding areas
Night in Galle
Day 3
Visit Galle and surrounding areas
Night in Galle
Day 4
Visit Galle and surrounding areas
Drive from Galle to Udawalawe
Night in Udawalawe
Day 5
Visit Udawalawe National Park
Night in Udawalawe
Day 6
Drive from Udawalawe to Ella
Night in Ella
Day 7
Ella Rock
+ Nine Arch Bridge
Night in Ella
Day 8
Visit Haputale
Lipton’s Seat and Dambatenne Tea Factory
Train ride back from Haputale to Ella
Night in Ella
Day 9
Little Adam’s Peak
+ drive from Ella to Arugam Bay
Night in Arugam Bay
Day 10
Visit Arugam Bay and surrounding areas
Night in Arugam Bay
Day 11
Visit Arugam Bay and surrounding areas
Night in Arugam Bay
Day 12
Drive from Arugam Bay to Batticaloa
Night in Batticaloa
Day 13
Visit Batticaloa
Night in Batticaloa
Day 14
Drive from Batticaloa to Sigiriya
Night in Sigiriya
Day 15
Lion Rock and Pidurangala
Night in Sigiriya
Day 16
Visit Dambulla
Drive from Sigiriya to Trincomalee
Night in Trincomalee
Day 17
Visit Trincomalee and surrounding areas
Night in Trincomalee
Day 18
Visit Trincomalee and surrounding areas
Night in Trincomalee
Day 19
Drive from Trincomalee to Anuradhapura
Night in Anuradhapura
Day 20
Visit Anuradhapura
Night in Anuradhapura
Day 21
Visit Mihintale
Drive from Anuradhapura to Negombo
Night in Negombo
Day 22
Day in Negombo and return flight
We’d love to hear your thoughts and tips! Thanks in advance!
We’re planning a 4-month trip in spring 2027. We’re looking for a third destination that optimizes transport costs. Ideally, somewhere very different from the other two (Polynesia and Indonesia). Thanks
Hi everyone!
We’re so excited to be heading to Italy for the first time this April with our two kids for a week. We’ve booked our round-trip flight, and we’ll be arriving and departing from Pisa.
Our rough plan so far includes visiting Pisa, taking the train to Florence, and exploring the Cinque Terre. Last night, a friend also suggested adding Siena to the list.
Our kids are 12 and 9 and are used to walking, but we’re not looking to rush around too much. We’d love any advice, especially about accommodation. Should we stay in Pisa and take day trips by train, or split our nights between a couple of different places?
We’re just starting our research, so any tips would be amazing! 😉
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone.
A few days ago, I asked my 14-year-old son to pick a destination for a trip, and he chose Germany. So, we’re heading to Berlin for four days in February. The catch is that I don’t know this city (or this country) at all—I hadn’t even considered visiting just a month ago .
Could you please share some suggestions to make this first mother-son trip abroad a success? 🙂
Thanks for your tips and great deals.
Nanyne
Next summer, we (2 adults and a 12-year-old child) have decided to visit Japan.
Admittedly, it’s still early to plan everything, but my wife will soon need to request her vacation time—either in August or July... and we’re hesitating.
I know summer isn’t the ideal time to visit Japan, but we don’t really have a choice... It’s either July or August. On one hand, I’d love to experience the O-Bon festivities from August 14th to 16th, and I’ve drafted an initial itinerary that would let us experience the Gujo Hachiman Bon Odori, possibly visit the Okunoin Cemetery in Koyasan, and be in Kyoto on the 16th for the Gozan Okuribi fires. But on the other hand, I’m worried it’ll be *packed*, especially in Kyoto, and less enjoyable than in July. So, have any of you experienced these celebrations? Are they worth it? Too crowded? Do you know of other celebrations or festivals in July?
Thanks for your input!
I’m reaching out because I’ve already read tons of info from other forums (thanks a million, by the way!) and blogs, but now I’m overwhelmed with details and have so many questions. I’m really hoping you can help us figure this out! Here’s the plan:
We’re leaving France for Senegal in our camper van (with two kids, aged 4 and 7), then shipping the van to South Africa before heading to Namibia. We’re planning to leave this summer and should arrive in South Africa in early September. The goal is to reach Réunion by early December, which gives us 3 months to explore Southern Africa. Originally, we wanted to pick up the van in Cape Town, head up to Namibia, and visit the main parks and iconic spots, then go north to Botswana (Etosha Park) and Zimbabwe (Victoria Falls) before heading back down to South Africa to enjoy the milder temperatures while exploring the country. But now we’re wondering how to get back to South Africa. We’ve come up with three options:
- Head back down through Botswana: I’ve read everywhere that Botswana isn’t recommended for kids under 6 (most parks) because it can be potentially dangerous—few enclosures for animals (even though we have a camper van with "secure" beds), and the agencies we’ve contacted don’t recommend it. Plus, southern Botswana is tough to navigate in a camper van.
- Return from central Botswana (Maun) to Windhoek and drive back to Cape Town via Namibia.
- Cross Zimbabwe and potentially Mozambique to head down to Kruger Park and Johannesburg.
Anyone familiar with this region have any recommendations?
Also, is it necessary to book accommodations in advance? Is that only required in certain countries (maybe Botswana/Zimbabwe)? We’d like a mix of camping and lodges.
Hi there,
We’re planning a two-week trip to Colombia with our two kids at the end of July – early August, with a round-trip flight to Cartagena.
What itinerary would you recommend, knowing we’d prefer to avoid domestic flights?
We were thinking of Cartagena, Tayrona Park, Mompox, and maybe an island.
Do you think it’s a shame to skip big cities like Bogotá or Medellín?
Thanks so much in advance for your help!
Good morning! We're heading to Cape Verde for 2 weeks at the end of April—São Vicente, Boa Vista, and Santiago. We’re a family of 5: 3 kids (4, 6, and 12) and 2 adults.
My questions revolve around beaches (a spot with interesting snorkeling and safe swimming for the kids), accommodation (kid-friendly, parks nearby, pool, beach, or nature—more like guesthouses or family-run pensions), hikes (accessible for kids), and whether renting a car makes sense depending on the island, even though local buses are an adventure in themselves.
**Santiago:**
- Beach & snorkeling: Tarrafal, Quebra Canela in Praia, Ribeira da Barca (okay for kids?), Águas Belas?
- Any nice places to stay?
- Hikes: Malagueta?, Baobab Boa Entrada, Pico António (accessible? elevation gain, time to climb, difficulty, interest for kids?)
**Boa Vista:**
- Beach + snorkeling: Santa Mónica, Praia de Chaves, Gatas, ... Estoril Beach in Sal Rei maybe?
- Can we swim at Turtle Bay to see the turtles even though it’s not nesting season?
- Any nice places to stay?
- Hikes: Viana Desert? Can we explore it solo by renting a 4x4 and easily find the points of interest?
- Is it worth renting a 4x4 for our stay in Boa Vista?
**São Vicente:**
- Beach + snorkeling: Laginha, Porto Grande, Praia Grande, Baía das Gatas, São Pedro...? (safe, good snorkeling?)
- Any nice places to stay?
- Hikes: cliffs?, Monte Verde?
Thanks for your feedback, great tips—especially for accommodation where we’re totally in the dark! And your thoughts on whether renting a car is a good idea and which beaches are safest for kids.
Hi,
We’d like to visit the Alpes de Haute-Provence for 2 weeks with our 2 (adult) kids.
Any ideas for things to see and do?
Where should we choose our accommodation (house only) to be centrally located for sightseeing? We’re looking for villages with restaurants and bakeries.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Best regards
Hi there, we’re heading to Tuscany in the second half of August with two kids (8 and 6 years old).
We’ve zeroed in on the area around Siena and Florence for now.
I’m looking for recommendations on places to stay and things to see that are great for families.
Also, just to add, we’ll be traveling by train and plan to rent a car once we’re there—any tips on car rental companies?
Hello everyone,
We’ve decided to head to Quebec next year—it’s been a dream for the whole family (after watching so many travel shows and the like...). There’ll be five of us: 2 adults, 2 teens (16 and 13), and a child (8 years old). We’re all pretty good walkers, though maybe the teens a little less so—it’s just that age, you know? 😊 That said, they’ve got no problem doing 15 km hikes, just not every single day.
We’re planning to go from July 23 to August 14, arriving and departing from Montreal, so almost 3 weeks.
I’ve started looking into logistics and accommodation prices, but before I dive into bookings, I’d love some advice on the itinerary. I’ve read a few threads here and there.
Our idea is to visit between 3 and 5 different places over the 3 weeks, so that means the same number of accommodations. The goal is to optimize travel as much as possible—I’ve realized that getting around can take a long time.
I think the first two days will be in Montreal to adjust to the time difference, and the last two in Quebec City, though that’s not set in stone.
Anyway, I’m not really sure about the route. I’ve got time to plan everything, but I know the longer we wait, the more expensive and scarce accommodations will get.
Same goes for budget—we’ve set aside a mid-range budget, flights included: 3k per person (1k for the flight). So if you’ve got any great tips or advice, we’re all ears!
I was thinking of going up the St. Lawrence River, but I’m not sure how long that takes or where to stop. Maybe there are other places worth visiting farther away...
Anyway, thanks for reading this far! If you’ve got any questions, don’t hesitate.
I hope you're starting this new year with your head full of travel memories or plans!!
I’d love to spend a week in July on a Greek island with my 8-year-old son. I’m totally in love with Amorgos, but not all the beaches are accessible for him. I’ve been to Santorini and Naxos before and don’t want to go back. Would you have an island to recommend that’s not too crowded 😕, with a few accessible beaches and where we won’t have to fight to get around or park?
A few months ago, I posted a message in the Southern Africa section about a family trip in July/August. In the end, since I had too much trouble deciding on the destination and procrastinated too much with the planning 😎, I changed my mind and we’re going for a completely different trip—to Madagascar, a country we already know a bit since we’ve traveled there several times for 4 to 6 months each time, though our last visit was back in 2012!
The tickets are booked: 19 days on the ground (excluding arrival and departure days in Tana), spanning July and August.
We’re not looking to rack up landscapes (and kilometers). The kids really want to see lots of animals, while we mostly want to show them what daily life is like in Malagasy villages. So ideally, we’d like a trip split into two parts:
- For 8/10 days, a hiking portion. The idea isn’t to do a tough trek in very remote areas but rather to walk from one village to another. Let’s say 3-4 hours a day. And when we arrive in each village, we’d have time to explore a bit, chat with the locals, let our kids play with the village children, etc. Stay with locals when possible. Move to a new village every day or every 2-3 days.
- A few days visiting 1 or 2 national parks (with lemurs if possible to keep everyone happy!)
- With the inevitable travel days, we’ll quickly hit 19 days.
Does this kind of trip sound doable (and fun) to you? Do you know of any villages that would fit our hiking plans?
I don’t have a preferred region yet, except that very dry landscapes appeal to me less. My real love from past trips was the highlands and their bright green rice paddies against red earth, but I’m a bit worried about the cold at this time of year.
After my initial research (thanks to this forum), I get the impression that the Ambalavao/Ambohimahamasina area might meet our criteria. I saw there are "accueil paysan" (farm stays) in that area, which could match what we’re looking for and would let us visit Andringitra National Park and Ranomafana on the way there or back.
But I’m open to all your more original ideas!
For logistical questions (transport, guides, accommodations, etc.), I’ll tackle those later—it’ll depend on the area we choose.
We’re a family with young kids (6 years old, 3 years old, and a newborn) and we’d like to spend about ten days in Aquitaine (in Gironde or Les Landes).
We’d love to be near pretty villages to visit and, if possible, close to the sea.
We’re planning to stay at a campsite with a pool so the kids can play.
Could you recommend any places/villages/campsites for us?
We don’t know the region at all.
We’re a family of five (our kids are 6, 15, and 19) and we’d love to go somewhere warm with our feet in the water during the first two weeks of August 2026. We’d also like to do some cultural visits and a bit of hiking. We were thinking of Guadeloupe—I know it’s not the ideal time of year, but we don’t have much flexibility. Is it really a bad idea, or can we still enjoy it despite the weather?
Another option for us would be Madeira, which seems more reliable weather-wise, but it sounds like the beaches are less accessible and not as nice.
We haven’t really looked elsewhere because everything else (except the Canary Islands, Balearics, or Corsica) seems way too expensive. But if you’ve got any recommendations, don’t hesitate—we’re just starting to look into it.
Hi,
This summer, we’re spending a month in Malaysia. There are 3 adults and two kids in our group. I’ve just finished planning our itinerary and I’d love to get your thoughts on whether it feels "coherent."
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
Christelle
07/07 Depart France 10:30 AM
08/07 Arrive KL 7:50 PM
09/07 KL
10/07 KL / Batu Caves
11/07 KL
12/07 KL → Kuching (flight)
13/07 Kuching
14/07 Bako National Park
15/07 Bako → Kuching
16/07 Semenggoh Reserve
17/07 Kuching → Mulu (flight)
18/07 Mulu National Park
19/07 Mulu → Kota Kinabalu (flight)
20/07 Kota Kinabalu → Sandakan (flight)
21/07 Kinabatangan
22/07 Kinabatangan → Sandakan / Sandakan → KL (flight)
23/07 Malacca
24/07 Malacca → Chin Swee Caves Temple
25/07 Chin Swee Caves Temple → Kuala Tahan / Taman Negara Park
26/07 Taman Negara Park
27/07 Kuala Tahan → Kuala Besut
28/07 Perhentian Islands
29/07 Perhentian Islands
30/07 Perhentian Islands
31/07 Perhentian → George Town
01/08 George Town / Penang
02/08 George Town / Penang
03/08 Ipoh
04/08 Cameron Highlands
05/08 Return to KL
06/08 Return to France
Hi everyone,
I’m planning a 3-week trip to Malaysia this July with my 6-year-old son.
I’d thought we’d go this year, but we ended up returning to Samui instead.
I’ve decided to limit it to 4 stops to avoid moving around too often and to fully enjoy each place without rushing. The travel times between each spot aren’t too long, except for the one between Sandakan and Langkawi.
* 05: Arrival in KL in the afternoon.
06: Day in KL. I’ve been there a few times and know the city a bit.
* 07: Head to Kota Kinabalu
08 – 09: In KK
* 10: Flight from Sandakan to Sepilok
11: In Sepilok
* 12: Flight to Kinabatangan
13 – 14: In Kinabatangan
* 15: Head to Langkawi
15 – 21: In Langkawi
* 22: Return to KL
23 – 24: In KL
* 25: Return flight
Any thoughts on this itinerary? I have a rough idea of what we’ll do at each stop after checking online and with ChatGPT.
We’re heading out at the end of February for a road trip with our two kids, ages 3 and 7. Our itinerary includes Ait Ben Haddou, Tizi-n-Tichka, Sourate, Tinghir, Zagora, Ouarzazate, Ouzoud, and Essaouira. I’d love recommendations for accommodations, restaurants, and typical/spectacular spots to visit. We’d like to spend a night in the Zagora desert. We’re looking for authenticity and a friendly vibe—not tourist traps—for our trip. We’ll be there during Ramadan—any tips?
Thanks in advance!
Your fellow globetrotter’s perspective is invaluable.
Wednesday, March 4 – Friday, March 6 — Sine-Saloum
Drive to Toubacouta via the Trans-Gambian Highway (Gambia)
Stay with a local host / camp on the bolongs
Activities: pirogue ride in the delta, Serer villages, biking, handicraft discovery
Overnights: Sine-Saloum (3 nights)
Saturday, March 7 – Sunday, March 8 — Petite Côte
Drive to Somone / Ngaparou (~3 hours)
Stay with a local host
Activities: beach, safari at Bandia Reserve, kayaking on the lagoon, craft market
Overnights: Petite Côte (2 nights, including Sunday, March 8, to enjoy the full day before the nighttime departure)
Monday, March 9 — Departure
Transfer to Blaise Diagne International Airport (~45 minutes)
Flight leaves at 2:00 AM
I’ve got a few questions:
- Is an afternoon on Gorée Island worth it? I really want to go, but the ferry departure days are a bit limiting.
- How easy is it to get around between these different stops? Can we find a taxi that fits all five of us?
- Do you have any accommodation recommendations? I’d love to stay with locals as much as possible—we’re not looking for luxury, just a bed and a shower.
- February 28 is my birthday, and I’d love to do something “special”: any ideas for a nice place to stay, a great restaurant, or an out-of-the-ordinary activity? We’ll be around Cap Skirring.
- Does this itinerary seem coherent? I really want to visit Casamance, and we’d prefer to stay no more than 3 nights in the same place.
Don’t hesitate to share your tips! Thanks so much!
Hello,
I’d like to go to Morocco with my 10-year-old daughter for three weeks in February.
Do you think, as women traveling alone, we’ll feel comfortable? Sorry if my question seems odd, but when I mentioned my plans, I got some hesitant reactions.
I’ve never been to North Africa. I’ve traveled several times to the Sultanate of Oman, where I felt very at ease as long as we respected the basic cultural norms. For those who know Morocco, do you think it’s different? Would it be appropriate for me to cover my head?
I was thinking of arriving in Agadir and spending a few days in Taghazout and the surrounding area.
After that, if you have any tips, I’m all ears. We’re looking to discover Moroccan cultures, see artisans at work, or even try our hand at a local craft—we’d love that. Simply meeting families, seeing landscapes, animals, and soaking in the culture gently, opening ourselves to something new—that’s what motivates us. And if there are opportunities to listen to local music, even better.
We’ll be traveling by public transport.
Thanks in advance for your ideas.
Happy travels to everyone.
we’re taking our grandkids in early 2026 (14 and 10 years old) without their parents. Do we really need to have birth certificates and other forms translated by a sworn translator?
