Voyage seule en Chine: Simatai ou Jinshanling
by Doliphant
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour à tous
Je suis allée dans "rechercher" pour avoir des infos pour aller soit à Simatai soit à Jinshanling, aucune discussion n'est plus récente que 2014 . ....Ces tronçons font parfois l'objet de restauration donc je préfèrerais des infos plus "fraîches"😉
J'aimerais aller de Beijing à Simatai en transports en commun: combien de temps de trajet? Coût? Quel bus prendre et où?
Si quelqu'un s'y est rendu en taxi, quel tarif?
Merci!
Jeanne
Bonjour à tous
Je suis allée dans "rechercher" pour avoir des infos pour aller soit à Simatai soit à Jinshanling, aucune discussion n'est plus récente que 2014 . ....Ces tronçons font parfois l'objet de restauration donc je préfèrerais des infos plus "fraîches"😉
J'aimerais aller de Beijing à Simatai en transports en commun: combien de temps de trajet? Coût? Quel bus prendre et où?
Si quelqu'un s'y est rendu en taxi, quel tarif?
Merci!
salut salut, en version plus fraiche alors. j'y étais fin aout 2017. j'ai eu les mêmes questions que toi. donc : pour finir, je suis allée à Simatai tous simplement parce que le site de Jinshanling est fermé pour rénovations depuis debut juillet.. donc le choix est fait. je te conseil l'application sur google play : The Great Wall qui te permet d'explorer d'autres options.
pour y aller, assez simple: bus que j'ai pris à Donzhimen 980 express. mais franchement, je parle super mal anglais et pas chinois et je me suis débrouillée. donc, tu vas au point infos avec l'endroit ou tu veux aller (tu peux montrer la page de l'application great wall écrit en anglais et en chinois, ca aide). tu aura un premier bus le 980 avec le sigle express c'est mieux!
jusqu'à une autre ville Mi Yun Xi Da Qiao et là, c'est le bus 51 qui va a Simatai ou le bus 25 qui annonce GuBeiKou (même endroit : Si Ma Tai Chong Chong)ou chang chang?. le site est assez loin en bus de ville (3 heures aller de pékin), donc c'est long. éventuellement, je te conseille de partir en fin d'une journée de dormir à simatai pour être à l'ouverture (plein d'annonces sur airbnb). sache que le site est ouvert mais que si tu arrives entre 12 et 14h, tu devras attendre la fin de la pause déjeuner des employés pour acheter ton billet..
De plus, à la fin de la journée, les rabatteurs feront tout pour que tu prennent un de leurs taxis qui coute 150 yuans bus 30 si je me souviens bien jusqu'à Miyu en te disant que tu n'auras plus de correspondance après ce qui est faux. de Miyu à Beijing, blindé de bus, plein de numéro dont le 980...
et si tu opte pour Mutyaniu : vidéo géniale là : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tN9IDZDZnbw
badaling : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUvOXfshKtw
je suis au Tibet et je ne pourrais surement pas te répondre prochainement.
conseil, charge google traduction avec les packs hors lignes, ça m'aide vraiment! et prévois, la carte sim chinoise à l'arrivée pour avoir accès au data! Maps.me est une super appli qui t'aide à te déplacer dans les villes. désolée de ne plus avoir tout cela en mémoire pour les prix, les tickets sont dans un autre sac à Lhassa et j'y suis pas.
Tashi Delek
sabrina
salut salut, en version plus fraiche alors. j'y étais fin aout 2017. j'ai eu les mêmes questions que toi. donc : pour finir, je suis allée à Simatai tous simplement parce que le site de Jinshanling est fermé pour rénovations depuis debut juillet.. donc le choix est fait. je te conseil l'application sur google play : The Great Wall qui te permet d'explorer d'autres options.
pour y aller, assez simple: bus que j'ai pris à Donzhimen 980 express. mais franchement, je parle super mal anglais et pas chinois et je me suis débrouillée. donc, tu vas au point infos avec l'endroit ou tu veux aller (tu peux montrer la page de l'application great wall écrit en anglais et en chinois, ca aide). tu aura un premier bus le 980 avec le sigle express c'est mieux!
jusqu'à une autre ville Mi Yun Xi Da Qiao et là, c'est le bus 51 qui va a Simatai ou le bus 25 qui annonce GuBeiKou (même endroit : Si Ma Tai Chong Chong)ou chang chang?. le site est assez loin en bus de ville (3 heures aller de pékin), donc c'est long. éventuellement, je te conseille de partir en fin d'une journée de dormir à simatai pour être à l'ouverture (plein d'annonces sur airbnb). sache que le site est ouvert mais que si tu arrives entre 12 et 14h, tu devras attendre la fin de la pause déjeuner des employés pour acheter ton billet..
De plus, à la fin de la journée, les rabatteurs feront tout pour que tu prennent un de leurs taxis qui coute 150 yuans bus 30 si je me souviens bien jusqu'à Miyu en te disant que tu n'auras plus de correspondance après ce qui est faux. de Miyu à Beijing, blindé de bus, plein de numéro dont le 980...
et si tu opte pour Mutyaniu : vidéo géniale là : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tN9IDZDZnbw
badaling : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUvOXfshKtw
je suis au Tibet et je ne pourrais surement pas te répondre prochainement.
conseil, charge google traduction avec les packs hors lignes, ça m'aide vraiment! et prévois, la carte sim chinoise à l'arrivée pour avoir accès au data! Maps.me est une super appli qui t'aide à te déplacer dans les villes. désolée de ne plus avoir tout cela en mémoire pour les prix, les tickets sont dans un autre sac à Lhassa et j'y suis pas.
Tashi Delek
sabrina
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Citation de Alexandra David-Néel, écrivaine et exploratrice française
Bonsoir
Je projette de me rendre sur la grande muraille début novembre et me questionne sur la partie a choisir et le temps a y consacrer. A vous lire Simatai semble un bon choix , la balade jusqu'à Jinshanling est elle possible malgré la fermeture du site pour travaux ? Mutianyu est elle une meilleure option ?
Merci de vos avis et éclairages pour me guider dans mes choix
Je projette de me rendre sur la grande muraille début novembre et me questionne sur la partie a choisir et le temps a y consacrer. A vous lire Simatai semble un bon choix , la balade jusqu'à Jinshanling est elle possible malgré la fermeture du site pour travaux ? Mutianyu est elle une meilleure option ?
Merci de vos avis et éclairages pour me guider dans mes choix
Je projette de me rendre sur la grande muraille début novembre 2017 et me questionne sur la partie a choisir et le temps a y consacrer.
A vous lire Simatai semble un bon choix, la balade jusqu'à Jinshanling est elle possible malgré la fermeture de ce site pour travaux ?
Mutianyu est elle une meilleure option ?
Merci de vos avis et éclairages pour me guider dans mes choix
Merci!
Donc ce sera Simatai! Mutianyu je connais déjà. Le Tibet...j'y étais en 2004...ça me semblait encore "authentique", le chemin de fer Beijing Lhassa était à peine en construction..Bon séjour!
Merci de vos avis et éclairages pour me guider dans mes choix
Merci!
Donc ce sera Simatai! Mutianyu je connais déjà. Le Tibet...j'y étais en 2004...ça me semblait encore "authentique", le chemin de fer Beijing Lhassa était à peine en construction..Bon séjour!
Je projette de me rendre sur la grande muraille début novembre et me questionne sur la partie a choisir et le temps a y consacrer.
A vous lire Simatai semble un bon choix, la balade jusqu'à Jinshanling est elle possible malgré la fermeture de ce pour travaux ?
Mutianyu est elle une meilleure option ?
Merci de vos avis et éclairages pour me guider dans mes choix
Merci de vos avis et éclairages pour me guider dans mes choix
et bien,
je pense que nous avons tous des attentes différentes et que donc il est complique de te dire quelle partie faire. a toi de collecter les infos et de choisir. donc pour moi simatai c’était pour avoir moins de monde et une portion plus authentique sans le cote parc d'attraction que donne les aménagements récents.
par contre ce qui est sure c'est que la rando vers Jinshanling est impossible.
de plus si tu lis bien un de mes autres messages je parle d'une application super détaillée sur la grande muraille. tu peux y voir d'autres portions moins connu. bonne visite!
sabrina
je pense que nous avons tous des attentes différentes et que donc il est complique de te dire quelle partie faire. a toi de collecter les infos et de choisir. donc pour moi simatai c’était pour avoir moins de monde et une portion plus authentique sans le cote parc d'attraction que donne les aménagements récents.
par contre ce qui est sure c'est que la rando vers Jinshanling est impossible.
de plus si tu lis bien un de mes autres messages je parle d'une application super détaillée sur la grande muraille. tu peux y voir d'autres portions moins connu. bonne visite!
sabrina
https://www.facebook.com/My-big-trip-1390363557863965/
"Celui qui voyage sans rencontrer l’autre ne voyage pas, il se déplace"
Citation de Alexandra David-Néel, écrivaine et exploratrice française
Citation de Alexandra David-Néel, écrivaine et exploratrice française
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Hello everyone,
This is a warning message! I’d like to address it especially to young women traveling alone for the first time in India. Other travelers may react to my post based on their own experiences, but I think what I’m about to say shouldn’t be taken lightly—unless that’s what you’re looking for!
Last July, I traveled to Northern India. I stopped in Khajuraho to see the famous tantric temples. I stayed one night, and that was more than enough. Khajuraho is very touristy, but you should know that 80% of young Indian men there are "gigolos." Locals call these young men (aged 18 to 30) "playboys" or "Lapka" (which means "capture the woman" in Hindi)!!!
They approach tourists with kindness and politeness, offering tea or a motorcycle ride (which they’ve often gotten from generous Western female tourists) to waterfalls a few kilometers from Khajuraho or other tourist sites. After befriending you, they charm you—be careful, these are professionals who are very skilled at this; it’s all they do, and they do it well. They’ll offer you food, drinks, and even temple entry to confuse you. They’ll suggest spending the evening or even the night with them. **Refuse (unless you’re into local flings and that’s why you came)!!!!**
At first, you’ll be seduced by their generosity, let your guard down, and then they’ll make you believe in *true love*. They won’t leave you alone and will keep in touch via email or phone if you give them your details. The lines they use to soften you up and scam you include: *"I’m the only one taking care of my family, my brother is sick, I don’t know what to do..."* All of this is to manipulate you into offering them money. They’ll never ask for it outright (to avoid being exposed) but will wait for you to suggest it.
If you receive emails from them, they’ll never be signed, and their name won’t appear in the email address (to avoid leaving traces). They use fake names to avoid being reported. If you believe their sob stories and offer help, they’ll give you a bank account number to send money via Western Union. These young men make a living from this—selling their bodies and scamming people! They’re very skilled, charming, manipulative, and *big-time cheaters*!
(Especially one young man who goes by the alias *Tony*—apparently the most skilled. He lives in a hotel near the lake, *Krishna Cottage*, and is in regular contact via Skype with Western women he’s tricked into believing he loves them while shamelessly scamming them. He even opened an internet café on the roof of the hotel with money he stole from women who fell for his charm.)
So, young romantic women craving love, sensitive singles, or anyone emotionally vulnerable—**don’t let yourself be scammed!!!** This behavior is becoming more common in India and is still relatively unknown. Male prostitution is on the rise, and cases of romantic scams and financial fraud by gigolos are increasing.
This is a warning message! I’d like to address it especially to young women traveling alone for the first time in India. Other travelers may react to my post based on their own experiences, but I think what I’m about to say shouldn’t be taken lightly—unless that’s what you’re looking for!
Last July, I traveled to Northern India. I stopped in Khajuraho to see the famous tantric temples. I stayed one night, and that was more than enough. Khajuraho is very touristy, but you should know that 80% of young Indian men there are "gigolos." Locals call these young men (aged 18 to 30) "playboys" or "Lapka" (which means "capture the woman" in Hindi)!!!
They approach tourists with kindness and politeness, offering tea or a motorcycle ride (which they’ve often gotten from generous Western female tourists) to waterfalls a few kilometers from Khajuraho or other tourist sites. After befriending you, they charm you—be careful, these are professionals who are very skilled at this; it’s all they do, and they do it well. They’ll offer you food, drinks, and even temple entry to confuse you. They’ll suggest spending the evening or even the night with them. **Refuse (unless you’re into local flings and that’s why you came)!!!!**
At first, you’ll be seduced by their generosity, let your guard down, and then they’ll make you believe in *true love*. They won’t leave you alone and will keep in touch via email or phone if you give them your details. The lines they use to soften you up and scam you include: *"I’m the only one taking care of my family, my brother is sick, I don’t know what to do..."* All of this is to manipulate you into offering them money. They’ll never ask for it outright (to avoid being exposed) but will wait for you to suggest it.
If you receive emails from them, they’ll never be signed, and their name won’t appear in the email address (to avoid leaving traces). They use fake names to avoid being reported. If you believe their sob stories and offer help, they’ll give you a bank account number to send money via Western Union. These young men make a living from this—selling their bodies and scamming people! They’re very skilled, charming, manipulative, and *big-time cheaters*!
(Especially one young man who goes by the alias *Tony*—apparently the most skilled. He lives in a hotel near the lake, *Krishna Cottage*, and is in regular contact via Skype with Western women he’s tricked into believing he loves them while shamelessly scamming them. He even opened an internet café on the roof of the hotel with money he stole from women who fell for his charm.)
So, young romantic women craving love, sensitive singles, or anyone emotionally vulnerable—**don’t let yourself be scammed!!!** This behavior is becoming more common in India and is still relatively unknown. Male prostitution is on the rise, and cases of romantic scams and financial fraud by gigolos are increasing.
hi everyone! I’d like to visit Montreal and the surrounding areas in August, and I’ve got 3 weeks of vacation. I’m traveling alone and will be visiting my daughter, who recently moved there. She’ll be working and only available in the evenings! So I’m torn between spending a week in Montreal, then taking a flight to Cuba, and returning to France from Havana—or staying in Montreal and exploring the nearby areas alone.
For my first idea—going to Cuba—is it feasible in terms of administrative formalities and legality? And for my second idea, is it possible to take buses? If so, is it too expensive? And are there many places served by them?
Thanks for your advice! Jocelyne
For my first idea—going to Cuba—is it feasible in terms of administrative formalities and legality? And for my second idea, is it possible to take buses? If so, is it too expensive? And are there many places served by them?
Thanks for your advice! Jocelyne
From FES, I’d like to spend a few days in:
MEKNES
CHEFCHAOUEN
TETOUAN
and then return to FES.
I’m planning this trip in November.
Thanks for your tips!
I just got back from an unforgettable road trip in Madagascar where I drove down the legendary RN7. It connects Tana (the capital) to Tulear.
Since we were traveling as a group of girls, we decided to go with a guide. I’d never done an “organized” trip before, but I have to say we loved this first tailor-made travel experience.
From the highlands of the Red Island
down to the west coast, by the Mozambique Channel.
Vast landscapes as far as the eye can see
Human encounters
Discovering ancestral artisanal know-how
Sunsets over the ochre mountains
Intense, precious moments with my friends
We loved the mountains, visits to artisans, and the parties too ;-)
We used local guides to show us specific spots (like Isalo National Park, where we were able to bivouac)
Hi there,
My friend and I are traveling together between October and November 2025—no exact dates yet.
We’d love to step away from the typical travel agency packages and are hoping to rent a car locally and stay with locals, living with them rather than in a vacation rental.
Does anyone know if this is possible? Thanks in advance for your advice and tips! Warm regards to all
Does anyone know if this is possible? Thanks in advance for your advice and tips! Warm regards to all