Voyager en Algérie après les attentats
by Dominik29
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Je ne veux ni exagerer ni propager la peur, mais les evenements tragiques du 11/12 font quand meme penser...
d'abord, j'aimerais exprimer mes sentiments de condoleances vers les familles touchees par ces actes de barbarie...un jour, vous allez etre debarasse de ces fous integristes!
Ce qui me concerne, j'ai prepare pendant les moins derniers mon voyage en algerie que j'attends depuis si longtemps...la premiere fois, je voulais y aller en 1997 apres avoir passe mon bac, mais vous connaissez l'histoire...apres, pendant mes etudes, la situation n'etait pas trop bonne non plus...en 2003, j'ai pense encore une fois:maintenant, tu vas y aller! mais apres les enlevements des touristes dans le sud, le consulat en Allemagne (je suis allemand) m'a deconseille d'y aller et a dit qu'ils ne veulent pas me donner de visa...finalement, maintenant, j'ai pense d'aller finalement dans ce pays dont je reve depuis mon enfance, mais voila encore l'annee terrible 2007 pour l'Algerie...et il semblait tellement s'ameliorer...
a part de la securite (c'est finalement mon choix que je fais, si je prends des risques ou pas), ce que je me demande, c'est une autre chose:
est-ce que les algeriens sont heureux de me voir dans leur pays, dans la ville d'alger???
est-ce qu'ils ne pensent pas: "Qu'est-ce qu'il fait ici, regarder notre malaise?"
surtout, je ne veux pas que les algeriens pensent que je suis un voyeur du malheur....
Qu'est-ce que vous en pensez? Vous me comprenez?
Merci et shokran d'avoir lu mon longue message, mais j'avais besoin d'exprimer mes soucis...merci!
Tu sembles assez mur pour faire le voyage en connaissance de cause, par ailleurs aucun d'entre nous ici ne pourrait, te deconseiller ou pas, maintenant concernant les algeriens sois rassuré ils ne verront pas en toi un voyeur, c'est un peuple très accueillant et serviable, qui merite d'etre connu pour cela, inutile de les penaliser ils souffrent suffisament de la situation et les isoler serait donner raison à quelques fanatiques qui agissent au nom d'un islam dont ils ont une optique assez personnelle. Tu trouveras la bas des gens ouverts et qui t'accueilleront à bras ouverts sans aucun a priori, tiens nous au courant s'il te plait!
SO
Bonne réponse de Fiodra mais j'ajoute que seul le centre Alger semble visé, en outre j'ai habité en Algerie pendant la période terroriste d'il y a 10 ans, et les risques sont trés limités, evitez les zones surpeuplées (sauf l'aéroport, bien gardé), evitez de circuler aprés 18 h dans les routes de campagne et inch allah, a vous de choisir
bonjour, je reviens d algerie et je repars le 21 dec et je vous assure qu il ni a rien a craindre, moi qui suis une femme je n ai jamais eu peur
l Algerie est tres belle et les gens tres acceuillant, le pays est securisé et franchement je n ai aucun regret de repartir pour passer les fetes avec mes amis algeriens, alors bon voyage et profité de votre famille et des fetes, bon el kebir !
grenouille
Hello Dominik29; en tant qu'algérienne vivant à alger je te dis ceci: tu seras le bienvenu partout en algérie; il y a des circuits très intéressants, certains avec l'ONAT ( office national du tourisme), sinon avec des agences locales.
Si tu as des questions précises n'hésites pas.
le temps d'apprendre à vivre, il est déjà trop tard ( Aragon)
Bonjour cher touriste
Je suis vice président d’une association culturel, dans la région de la grande Kabylie, exactement a tigzirt sur /mer une petite ville côtière, en as reçue une troupe théâtrale de France sont des français il sont passer une semaine chez nous, il sont étai acculer comme des rois, il sont visité pas mal des site, et tout les citoyen de ma ville il sont étais très heureux de les voir et de changer des idée avec eux, alors si vous avez peur vous êtes les bien venue chez nous et vous serais tranquil et comme si tu es chez toi Amicalement sofiane
Je suis vice président d’une association culturel, dans la région de la grande Kabylie, exactement a tigzirt sur /mer une petite ville côtière, en as reçue une troupe théâtrale de France sont des français il sont passer une semaine chez nous, il sont étai acculer comme des rois, il sont visité pas mal des site, et tout les citoyen de ma ville il sont étais très heureux de les voir et de changer des idée avec eux, alors si vous avez peur vous êtes les bien venue chez nous et vous serais tranquil et comme si tu es chez toi Amicalement sofiane
Je comprends ton malaise.
J'avais prévu un voyage en Algérie au mois d'Avril 2007. Je voulais partir le 14 avril (3 jours après les attentats) mais finalement la date a été repoussée au 28 avril pour des raisons professionnelles.
J'ai aussi hésité à partir. Ma crainte de partir n'était pas liée au risque d'attentat mais à la crainte de passer pour une voyeuse ou que mon voyage ne soie pas compris par les algériens qui souffraient sur place. J'allais en algérie pour passer du bon temps, visiter, profiter des richesses culturelles alors que des familles étaient endeuillées.
J'avais évoqué cette inquiétude avec une personne vivant en Algérie. Je te recopie sa réponse :
"STP ne reportes pas ton séjour... Il ne faut pas oublier, mais les algériens ont besoin surtout de faire comme si "rien" ne s'est passé sinon ils ne tiendront pas le coup !"
Les algériens ne pourront jamais faire comme si rien ne s'était passé, mais ils ont besoin de se sentir soutenus et de voir que les étrangers aiment leur pays.
En effet, je crois qu'il n'y aurait rien de pire que de laisser tomber le peuple algérien et de lui tourner le dos comme l'a fait la communauté internationale pendant les années noires.
Après chaque attentat il faut quelques jours pour que la vie reprenne son cours "presque normal". Il faut continuer à vivre, à aller bosser, à aller au marché... et à prendre des risques. On ne peut pas arrêter de vivre. Les algériens ne s'arrêteront pas de vivre. Et ils t'accueilleront comme ils t'auraient accueilli avant les attentats.
Bon voyage
Après chaque attentat il faut quelques jours pour que la vie reprenne son cours "presque normal". Il faut continuer à vivre, à aller bosser, à aller au marché... et à prendre des risques. On ne peut pas arrêter de vivre. Les algériens ne s'arrêteront pas de vivre. Et ils t'accueilleront comme ils t'auraient accueilli avant les attentats.
Bon voyage
Bonsoir,
Moi j'ai planifié d'aller à Tam en Août prochain et j'ai pas changé mes plans à cause d'Al Qaida! Sinon, on ne va plus nulle part: on ne retourne plus à New York, ni Madrid ni Londres ou ailleurs et on devient parano sur beaucoup d'autres destinations. Je pense que Keiro et Niccha ont parfaitement répondu: les algériens sont super accueillants et les attentats ne visent que des lieux" médiatiques" et où il y a du monde et l'Algérie est loin de se restreindre à Alger.
Moi j'ai planifié d'aller à Tam en Août prochain et j'ai pas changé mes plans à cause d'Al Qaida! Sinon, on ne va plus nulle part: on ne retourne plus à New York, ni Madrid ni Londres ou ailleurs et on devient parano sur beaucoup d'autres destinations. Je pense que Keiro et Niccha ont parfaitement répondu: les algériens sont super accueillants et les attentats ne visent que des lieux" médiatiques" et où il y a du monde et l'Algérie est loin de se restreindre à Alger.
Bonjour,
l Algerie n est pas un pays sur pour les etrangers, faut savoir que les services secrets algeriens assasinent la plupart du temps des etrangers, pour faire porter le chapeaux aux islamistes, souvenez vous des 7 moines de tibehirine assasiné en Algerie, en 2006 on a decouvert que c'est les services secrets Algeriens qui avaient infiltres les groupes islamiste au maquis qui avait fait kidnapper et assasinner les moines. Tout ça pour masquer leurs massacres de population civiles sous couvert de lutte antiterroriste, avec la benediction des pays occidentaux.
Alors aller ou ne pas aller en Algerie, y a tjs des risques pour un etranger.
l Algerie n est pas un pays sur pour les etrangers, faut savoir que les services secrets algeriens assasinent la plupart du temps des etrangers, pour faire porter le chapeaux aux islamistes, souvenez vous des 7 moines de tibehirine assasiné en Algerie, en 2006 on a decouvert que c'est les services secrets Algeriens qui avaient infiltres les groupes islamiste au maquis qui avait fait kidnapper et assasinner les moines. Tout ça pour masquer leurs massacres de population civiles sous couvert de lutte antiterroriste, avec la benediction des pays occidentaux.
Alors aller ou ne pas aller en Algerie, y a tjs des risques pour un etranger.
bonjour, ça fait vraiment chaud au coeur de vous entendre parler de l'Algérie ainsi.je tenais juste à vous dire que vous serez le bien venu chez nous dans votre deuxiéme pays, on va vous accueillir les bras ouverts.et croyez moi, votre venue va nous faire ennormément du bien, elle va nous donner de l'éspoir, aussi elle va étre la preuve que ces barbares ne réussiront jamais à détruire cette magnifique ALGéRIE et ils ne vont jamais nous mettre à genou.Mes salutations les plus sincéres!Naima, the algerian girl!
Alors aller ou ne pas aller en Algerie, y a tjs des risques pour un etranger.
__ Il y a certainement des quartiers qu'il vaut mieux éviter dans quelques grandes villes (et ce n'est peut être pas sûr ) mais moi je reviens de Djanet ou j'ai passé deux semaines en trek, et je peux te dire que tout est calme;aucune agressivité, aucun rassemblemnt;je me suis promenée dans la ville, seule, une fois la nuit tombée et j'avais l'impression d'être beaucoup plus en sécurité que dans certaines villes françaises!!!!!!!! Au fait ! viendrais tu en vacances chez moi ?J'habite en Corse ! Attention, cette nuit cinq villas ont sauté !On envisage, pour l'été prochain, de distribuer des gilets pare balles à tous les voyageurs sortant du bateau ou de l'avion ! Il faut éviter tout de même de délirer.Des risques il y en a partout dans le monde (terrorisme, catastrophes naturelles..........)
Toi désert, compagnon de ma vie
Toi désert, le plus cher des amis
Salut dominik moi je pars la semaine prochaine et g aucune crainte je t assure la vie continue et si on a peur alors on pourra plus faire ce k on veut et c ce k c fanatik veulent. En tout cas les algeriens sont triste mais tu verras la vie reprend son cour en plus tu tombe a la bonne periode avec la fete de l aid et le reveillon tu verras l ambiance k il y aura inchallah. Les algeriens savent s amuser! Bon voyage a toi et si tu as besoin de renseignement fais moi signe.
Sarah
bonjour j'ai lu ton message et ci tu veut venir en algerie tu vas passer des vacance ici cé bien yas boucoup de chause que tu pouras visité et pour les attantas sa arive meme les état unis ils sont u des attantas voila cé domage que ce soit ariveé mai j'espére que sa vas finir le terorisme en algerie a part les tero cé un tres baux payie, et ci vous vouler vraiment que tu vienne un conseil venais en été le moi de juin parceque en hiver yas pas vraiment de tourisme et yas pas aussi de plage lol alor ci tu vas venir je te souhaite un bon voyage et de bon vacance porte toi bien amicalement
bonjour je veut vraiment connétre des gens qui aime voyager comme moi lol mai TITTO
D'abord merci beaucoup pour les tas de reponses, ca fait plaisir!🙂vous m'avez vraiment beaucoup aide, c'est tres aimable!
Vous m'avez encourage d'envisager mon voyage en algerie malgre les attentats!
alors, j'y vais en mars 2008, c'est parti!!!
je vous souhaite des bonnes fetes de nouvel an et a plus!
Bonsoir Dominik29
Voilà un moment que je voulais répondre à certaines de tes interrogations posées sur l'Algérie. Je ne l'ai pas fais avant. En fait c'est la lecture de ton dernier message consécutif aux attentats du 11 décembre qui m'a décidée.
D'abord merci pour tes témoignages de sympathie. Nous en avons vraiment besoin surtout venant de l'extérieur. C'est très important!
Concernant tes craintes, je te rassure que les étrangers et autres touristes ne sont pas plus menacés ou visés que les nationaux en Algérie. Et puis je vois que tu envisages de venir chez nous au mois de mars. C'est un choix très judicieux car c'est la meilleure période pour visiter le sahara, cette si belle région du monde.
Je reste disponible pour toute autre information et meme pour une aide logistique. Je te donnerai les bons tutaux en temps voulu.
BIENVENU.
Voilà un moment que je voulais répondre à certaines de tes interrogations posées sur l'Algérie. Je ne l'ai pas fais avant. En fait c'est la lecture de ton dernier message consécutif aux attentats du 11 décembre qui m'a décidée.
D'abord merci pour tes témoignages de sympathie. Nous en avons vraiment besoin surtout venant de l'extérieur. C'est très important!
Concernant tes craintes, je te rassure que les étrangers et autres touristes ne sont pas plus menacés ou visés que les nationaux en Algérie. Et puis je vois que tu envisages de venir chez nous au mois de mars. C'est un choix très judicieux car c'est la meilleure période pour visiter le sahara, cette si belle région du monde.
Je reste disponible pour toute autre information et meme pour une aide logistique. Je te donnerai les bons tutaux en temps voulu.
BIENVENU.
nofar
Quand on s'attend au pire, on n'est jamais déçu
Hallo mein Freund, ich heiße "toufik" ich bin 23 jh alt und spreche deutsch(aber nicht sehr gut wie ein deutsch), ich lerne Übersetzung an der universität, wünschen Sie, in algerien zu kommen? dann machen Sie sich keinen sorgen, algerien ist eigentlich nicht schweiss aber es ist auch nicht afghanistan, haben Sie verstanden mein Freund?zu dem Beispiel es gibt in USA viele kriminalität aber alle Leute möchten dort reisen. hier ist mein telephon +213053599467.wann Sie kommen in algier an, rufen Sie mir an.
(le voyage c'est l'ouverture , l'ouverture c'est le savoire et le savoire c'est la vie)
😎 relaxe mon frere...relaxe..c'est pas l'irak non plus....euh...si un peu quand meme 😕
je plaisante....😉
mon frere si vous voulez venir en algerie ....rassurez vous ...vous serez le bienvenue partout ...mais alors partout....faut peut etre eviter les endroits sensible...faut pas trop circuler non plus..alors les histoires d'itinéraires...
bon je sais que beaucoups sont en train de penser que j'exagere ..que je dis des mechancetés que je ne suis pas patriotique et patati patata...
entre nous ou bien de vous a moi..
ici à alger..on a peur...c'est vrai on panique un peu et c'est normal...
je ne vais pas dire à quelqu'un de ne pas venir...la vie continue à alger ..mais je ne vais pas non plus etre hypocrite ...y'a comme un pincement au coeur en ce moment chez la plus part des algerois..on a effectivement peur ...c'est pas de la paranoia..c'est disons juste une méfiance...ca se passe dans la tete..
moi je vous conseillerai par contre le sahara ..le desert..c'est formidable..
allez y en groupe ...là bas ..c'est wow...
maintenant si vous voulez voir alger...je vous dirai " MARHABANE" qui veut dire " BIENVENU CHEZ VOUS ".
bye
merci
salut dominik, juste un ptit bref sur la situation a alger, la vie continue dans son etat normal, cet evenement ne change pas les habitudes des algeriens, car on s est que ne sont pas des humains qui ont fait ca, aucune relation avec la religion, vous etes le bienvenue chez nous, n hesister pas sur ce sujet l algerie est toujours la meme,
joyeux noel et bonne année
BONNE ANNEE 2008-POUR L'OCCAISION DE NOUVELLE ANNEE 2008, JE TE SOUHAITE PLEIN DE BELLES CHOSES.TOUS MES VOEUX DE SANTè, BONNEUR ET, DE SUCCéS DANS TOUTES TES ENTREPRISES. A TA FAMILLE ET TES AMIS. Ibrahim DE SUD SAHARA ALGERIE
BONNE ANNEE 2008POUR L'OCCAISION DE NOUVELLE ANNEE 2008, JE TE SOUHAITE PLEIN DE BELLES CHOSES.TOUS MES VOEUX DE SANTè, BONNEUR ET, DE SUCCéS DANS TOUTES TES ENTREPRISES. A TA FAMILLE ET TES AMIS. Ibrahim DE SUD SAHARA ALGERIE
Bonjour
C'était seulement un peu d'humour, car c'est vrai que beaucoup de personnes ont peur de venir en Corse. Pour ma part, l'Algérie m'a énormément plue.J'y retourne l'année prochaine.
Amitiés
C'était seulement un peu d'humour, car c'est vrai que beaucoup de personnes ont peur de venir en Corse. Pour ma part, l'Algérie m'a énormément plue.J'y retourne l'année prochaine.
Amitiés
Toi désert, compagnon de ma vie
Toi désert, le plus cher des amis
Bonsoir tout le monde,
Je me présente, je suis une étudiante algérienne, je suis en dernière année pour l'obtention d'une licence en marketing, et j'ai choisi comme thème de mémoire le marketing touristique. Pour cela, j'aimerai si possible que vous m'accordiez 10min pour répondre à un questionnaire, donc si vous pouvez, dites le moi, ou envoyez moi un mail sur ma boite: leila305@yahoo.fr
Et je vous l'enverrez avec plaisir, sachez juste que malgré la mauvaise réputation de l'Algérie, les algériens ont un bon fond, et je me propose de vous faire visiter la capitale si jamais vous venez sur Alger, je le ferai avec plaisir, et je vous conseillerai les meilleurs sites et hotels.
Merci d'avance,
Leila.
merci pour tes voeux et je te presente les miens
je rentre de bejaia aujourdhui et je repense deja a y retourner, meme l hiver c est magique !
j ai passe noel et le reveillon du nouvel an en algerie et je ne regrette pas meme si j etais loin des miens, j ai passe 15 jours formidable, j ai vu la neige, le soleil et la plage avec la douceur du pays, le retour a été des plus triste
vivement le 10 fevrier, je repars
bien amicalement et mes voeux a tout les tiens et a ceux qui me liront
bien amicalement et mes voeux a tout les tiens et a ceux qui me liront
grenouille
vouscour"bonnechance
merci à vous de vous montrer solidaire, sachez chèr dominique que malgré les problem que vie l'algérie c'est un pays magnifique dommage qu'on montre k le côté négatife et de plus ce n'est pas l'iraque les gens vivent normalement et pleinement leurs quotidien. quand à votre image que vous avez si peur de dégager envers les algériens sachez que vous etes le bien venu surtout que vous parlez français vous n'aurai aucun problem a communiqué avec nous et a connaître encore plus nos cultures.
marhaba
amicalement jiji
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1) Does this crossing still exist? If so, do I need to buy the ticket in advance or on the spot? From whom? Any advice is welcome!
2) What documents are required for the car?
3) If anyone is making the trip around the same time, it could be fun to drive together 😊
I know there are experts on this forum.
Thanks in advance
Hi there,
I’m looking for some friendly recommendations for places to stay in Marrakech for 3 nights in June 2026.
In the meantime, have a great day, everyone! Thanks so much in advance.
hi,
I’m planning to take the SETE-TANGER ferry with my car.
No agency in my town sells tickets.
Has anyone done this before and can point me in the right direction?
Thanks in advance.
have a good day
I’m planning to take the SETE-TANGER ferry with my car.
No agency in my town sells tickets.
Has anyone done this before and can point me in the right direction?
Thanks in advance.
have a good day
Good evening, everyone!
I’m reaching out to gather your thoughts on an itinerary (10 days... or more?) I’d like to do at the beginning of June 🙂.
Just so you know, I’m planning to do this trip solo (25 years old), using only public transport and just a backpack. I’ve already been to Marrakech and climbed Mount Toubkal two years ago...
I’ll be arriving in Tangier. Day 1-2: Explore the city center, hike around Cap Spartel... Day 3: Stop in Tetouan Day 4-5-6: Chefchaouen and a day hike in the Rif Mountains Day 6-7: Discover the city of Fes (I’ve heard so many great things!!) Day 8: Stop in Meknes and possibly visit the historic site of Volubilis Day 9-10: Rabat (I’ve heard mixed things... some good, some bad) After that, I have the choice of heading back to Tangier for my return flight... or going down to Agadir (also a possible return flight) and extending my trip by 5 days :)
From what I can tell, everything is well connected by bus (CTM) or train (ONCF). Another question: Is the vibe in Moroccan youth hostels for meeting people the same as what you’d find in Western Europe?
Thanks in advance for your replies and your kindness! 😊
I’m reaching out to gather your thoughts on an itinerary (10 days... or more?) I’d like to do at the beginning of June 🙂.
Just so you know, I’m planning to do this trip solo (25 years old), using only public transport and just a backpack. I’ve already been to Marrakech and climbed Mount Toubkal two years ago...
I’ll be arriving in Tangier. Day 1-2: Explore the city center, hike around Cap Spartel... Day 3: Stop in Tetouan Day 4-5-6: Chefchaouen and a day hike in the Rif Mountains Day 6-7: Discover the city of Fes (I’ve heard so many great things!!) Day 8: Stop in Meknes and possibly visit the historic site of Volubilis Day 9-10: Rabat (I’ve heard mixed things... some good, some bad) After that, I have the choice of heading back to Tangier for my return flight... or going down to Agadir (also a possible return flight) and extending my trip by 5 days :)
From what I can tell, everything is well connected by bus (CTM) or train (ONCF). Another question: Is the vibe in Moroccan youth hostels for meeting people the same as what you’d find in Western Europe?
Thanks in advance for your replies and your kindness! 😊
Tickets for entry to Majorelle Garden are only issued online via an official site
(though there are fraudulent sites out there). On the official site, they ask for legitimate info
(name, nationality, etc.). What made me go "hmm" was the request for both an email address
AND a password (with confirmation). Is this normal?
Thanks for your replies.
Hi there, a group of girlfriends and I are heading to Tunisia. We’d love to know how much cash we should bring for 6 days, considering everything’s already paid for at the hotel. Thanks for your tips!
Hi everyone! :)
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
A lot of people find it important to stick to their budget when traveling—not to skimp, but to visit as many places as possible since traveling is their hobby.
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Hi,
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Hi there,
Can anyone tell me if it's possible to travel from the Dades Gorges (Msemrir) to the Todra Gorges (Tamtatouche) on a paved road? Thanks in advance for any answers.
Hello,
We’d like to hire a French-speaking guide (agency, professional, or volunteer) to show us around Cairo over three days.
Trip planned for November 22, 23, and 24, 2026—four veteran French travelers.
We’re open to any leads, contact info, or suggestions.
Best regards,
Jacques
Hi there,
I have a layover in Algeria.
I won’t be leaving the airport.
The two tickets aren’t with the same airline.
Do I need a transit visa?
Thanks for any details and your help!
Hi there,
I live in Casablanca and my parents, who are 80, will be joining me in Marrakech at the beginning of May for a few days.
We’ll be renting a car to get around.
Do you have any suggestions for things to see or visit within a 2-3 hour drive max from Marrakech that aren’t too touristy?
My parents can walk a bit, but at 80, no climbing Mount Toubkal!
Thanks so much in advance for your ideas!
Hi everyone, just back from the 8-day Marrakech-Merzouga loop by car, and I’d love to share my feedback in case it helps some of you. Big thanks to all the forum members who kindly answered my questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Hi there,
I’m traveling solo to Egypt. Could you give me a rough idea of the budget for:
meals
hotels
taxis including tips
visits...
Just an estimate, of course.
For 15 days, what would the price range be, considering there’s an overnight train and a Nile cruise?
I’d like to compare with a travel agency. Is it more worthwhile to go through an agency despite the downsides of group travel?
Otherwise, if a travel buddy is interested in this country, why not?
Thanks a lot!





