MERCI DE ME REPONDRE Nab.🙂
Voyager en Inde sans réservation d'hôtels?
by Nabilou01
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour,
j'aimerais quelques renseignements pour un voyage en Inde du Nord (15 jours) avec chauffeur.
Mais j'hesite fortement a passer par une agence pour reserver les hotels ou bien voir sur place.
2600€ par personne avec avion, hotels, chauffeur, activités (montée a dos d'elephant, et de chameaux...) petits dejeuner...
Trouvez vous ceci cher???
MERCI DE ME REPONDRE Nab.🙂
MERCI DE ME REPONDRE Nab.🙂
Bonjour,
Il y a beaucoup d'hôtels de tous types donc il faut mieux voir sur place que réserver à l'avance.
Si j'ai un conseil pour Delhi c'est l'hôtel " Tara palace ". Il est a un bon prix et surtout très propre et climatiser. De plus, il se trouve a proximité du marché de Chandni chowk qui est typique. Mais aussi des monuments très appréciés tel que le Fort Rouge et Jama Masjid. Et si vous souhaiter plus ample renseignement cet hôtel peux vous indiquer comment vous rendre d'une ville à une autre pour des prix raisonnables, sans vous faire avoir. Car beaucoup d'hôtel sont en relation avec des boutiques.
Delhi est une bonne ville pour débuter son voyage en Inde.Car, pour la suite, si une visite du Taj mahal à Agra et Jaipur vous intéresse ils se situent juste en dessous de Delhi. Et puis pour les chameaux Jaisalmer parait pas mal ...
Delhi est une bonne ville pour débuter son voyage en Inde.
On n'a pas du visiter la même ville... Pour moi, c'est plutôt à garder pour la fin, quand on s'est acclimaté au pays !
Sinon, je partage ton avis quant aux réservations. C'est pas nécessaire (sauf pour les fêtes et festivals) et risqué : en Inde, avant de prendre une chambre, il vaut mieux la voir !
On n'a pas du visiter la même ville... Pour moi, c'est plutôt à garder pour la fin, quand on s'est acclimaté au pays !
Sinon, je partage ton avis quant aux réservations. C'est pas nécessaire (sauf pour les fêtes et festivals) et risqué : en Inde, avant de prendre une chambre, il vaut mieux la voir !
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Merci Lucie, vous aviez juste pris vos billets d'avion et vu tout vos hotels sur place?
Oui nous commencons notre circuit avec delhi pour finir par Agra.
Merci pour vos infos si vous avez d'autres infos (importantes ou autres) je suis preneuse. Etant mon premier voyage en Inde je prend tout ce qui pourrait mettre utile.
Merci Nab.
Merci Nab.
2600€ par personne avec avion, hotels, chauffeur, activités (montée a dos d'elephant, et de chameaux...) petits dejeuner...
Trouvez vous ceci cher???
Oui.
Avion : 500 à 800 euros selon la période.
Voiture : environ 17x15 soit 255 euros (tata indigo tout compris par personne)
Hotel : environ 25x15 soit 375 euros (catégorie confort avec petit déjeuner par personne-basse saison)
On arrive à un total de 1430 euros par personne (vol le plus cher) Mes idées de prix sont basées sur 2010.
Les activités ne vous ruineront pas, les entrées des monuments un peu plus (prix européens pour les touristes étrangers).
Certains dorment dans des hotels à moins de 10 euros la double. A l'autre bout de l'échelle, vous trouverez des palaces à plus de 200 euros la nuit.
Oui.
Avion : 500 à 800 euros selon la période.
Voiture : environ 17x15 soit 255 euros (tata indigo tout compris par personne)
Hotel : environ 25x15 soit 375 euros (catégorie confort avec petit déjeuner par personne-basse saison)
On arrive à un total de 1430 euros par personne (vol le plus cher) Mes idées de prix sont basées sur 2010.
Les activités ne vous ruineront pas, les entrées des monuments un peu plus (prix européens pour les touristes étrangers).
Certains dorment dans des hotels à moins de 10 euros la double. A l'autre bout de l'échelle, vous trouverez des palaces à plus de 200 euros la nuit.
Ne jamais reserver. Voir sur place. Il y a tous les choix, surtout si tu es en voiture .
Tu ne coucheras jamais dehors. Par contre je suis perplexe : les elephants je vois la ville,
mais les chameaux, je ne vois que Jaisalmer, et c'est tres loin. Il me faudrait ton parcours pour te dire si raisonnable et pour le nb de jours et pour 2600 euros
le voyage est un bonheur, pas une destination, Ando
Ne jamais reserver. Voir sur place.
Exact pour les logements à petits prix mais plus vous montez en gamme, plus les tarifs seront intéressants en réservant et en payant à l'avance.
Exact pour les logements à petits prix mais plus vous montez en gamme, plus les tarifs seront intéressants en réservant et en payant à l'avance.
Jour 1 Delhi – Arrivée
Jour 2 Delhi – Décourverte Delhi
Jour 3 Delhi – Shekhwati
Jour 4 Shekhwati – Kuchaman
Jour 5 Kuchaman – Khimsar
Jour 6 Khimsar – Jaisalmer
Jour 7 Jaisalmer – Jaisalmer la cite caravanière (Montée à dos de chameau)
Jour 8 Jaisalmer – Jodhpur la ville bleue
Jour 9 Jodhpur – Udaipur, la romantique ville
Jour 10 Udaipur – Temple et Palais d’Udaipur
Jour 11 Udaipur – Bundi
Jour 12 Bundi – Jaipur
Jour 13 Jaipur – Jaipur la ville rose (Montée à dos d’éléphant, Ambar Fort)
Jour 14 Jaipur – Agra
Jour 15 Agra – Delhi
Jour 16 Retour en France – Delhi – Paris
Voici l'itineraire que l'on ma conseiller, quand pensez vous? quel agence me conseiller vous??
Voici l'itineraire que l'on ma conseiller, quand pensez vous? quel agence me conseiller vous??
ah non alors jamais payer a l'avance ! tu es foutu car dans certains pays, tu ne seras jamais remboursé ! regarde les sites de certains hotels en " montee de gamme ": tu ne t'es jamais demandé pourquoi ils ne montraient que des photos de chambres et pas de l'environnement ? certains autres ne montrent que des photos prises de nuit ? En plus en ce moment, avec les " problemes " de securité, il y a de la place dans tous les pays dits " du tiers monde " ou " emergents "
le voyage est un bonheur, pas une destination, Ando
salut , quels sont les trajets que tu fais en voiture ? et en avion ? j'attends ta reponse, mais je pense que c'est tout trop : trop a voir en trop peu de temps. tu vas etre crevé !
je prends un exemple :
jour 8 : tu quittes Jaisalmer pour Jodhpur :
depart de jaisalmer a quelle heure ? arrivee a Jodhpur a quelle heure ?
jour 9 : des le lendemain, tu quittes Jodhpur ( quelle heure ?) pour Udaipur
au total combien d'heures seras tu resté a Jodhpur ?
Et le temps pour chercher un hotel ?
j'ai fait ce parcours. c'est possible, mais en si peu de temps tu seras fatigué et ne verras rien ou plutôt tu verras tout, mais n'auras le temps de ne rien apprecier.
le voyage est un bonheur, pas une destination, Ando
salut , quels sont les trajets que tu fais en voiture ? et en avion ?
jour 8 : tu quittes Jaisalmer pour Jodhpur :
depart de jaisalmer a quelle heure ? arrivee a Jodhpur a quelle heure ?
jour 9 : des le lendemain, tu quittes Jodhpur ( quelle heure ?) pour Udaipur
au total combien d'heures seras tu resté a Jodhpur ?
Et le temps pour chercher un hotel ?
Alors concernant l'avion sa serait paris--> Delhi et en voiture de delhi aeroport et tout le long du voyage. Je ne sais pas a quel heure nous quittons la ville...c un devis d'une agence. Que me conseillerez vous? Quel a ete votre parcours?
Alors concernant l'avion sa serait paris--> Delhi et en voiture de delhi aeroport et tout le long du voyage. Je ne sais pas a quel heure nous quittons la ville...c un devis d'une agence. Que me conseillerez vous? Quel a ete votre parcours?
dans ce cas, c est tout simplement non conseillé. Tu seras crevé et ne profiteras de rien. L'agence tient a bourrer au max, faire du fric, et toi tu auras "fait" tous ces endroits, sans apprecier. j'ai fait tout ton parcours, avec en plus Varanasi (benares) en mixant voiture, train (de nuit pour gagner du temps) bus, avion lignes interieures, pour au total 32 jours, et avec un budget tres legerement superieur au tien, mais en 2008. a mon avis il faut renoncer a certains arrets, a toi de choisir, c'est une question de feeling perso.
quelle ville habites tu ? quelle est l agence qui a sorti ce délire ? est elle une pro des voyages en Inde ?
le voyage est un bonheur, pas une destination, Ando
Bonjour, je suis allée 15j en inde en septembre 2007. On était 3 et on a pris les transports en commun sans problème. On restait parfois plusieurs dans les endroits où on se sentait bien et faisions des excursions à la journée en taxi.
Nous n'avions réservé aucun hôtel et il n'y a eu aucun problème à en trouver un grâce au guide du routard. Je trouve le budget très élevé, mais tout dépend si vous allez dans des grands hôtels. Nous s'était bon marché mais très bien et la nourriture pas cher du tout. Mon budget entre 1400€ et 1500€ (transports, hôtels, nourriture, visite, cadeau).
Voilà si vous avez besoins d'infos pas de pb.
Voilà si vous avez besoins d'infos pas de pb.
Oui je suis arrivée sans réservation d’hôtel mais le premier soir je suis tombée sur un hôtel pas terrible. Il était a 30 euros la nuit sans luminosité et avec du bruit la nuit ( circulation , klaxonne sans cesse ). Tara palace a été vraiment une bonne surprise, le calme et a côté de monuments c'est vraiment sympas en plus c'est pas plus cher.
Un taxis peut vous prendre de l’aéroport à l'hôtel gratuitement donc si c’était a refaire je le choisirais. Pour le pick up il faut le prévenir à l'avance je pense par contre.
Si vous souhaitez d'autres infos sur Delhi ...
Si vous souhaitez d'autres infos sur Delhi ...
Bonjour
nous avons fait sensiblement ce circuit en 2007 avec une agence française nous avons été satisfait mais nous avons passé notre temps en voiture et les visites au pas de charge Pour 15 jours jaiselmer est loin je ne discute pas l'intêret de ce lieu Pour le dromadaire il y a bikaner mais vous n'avez pas fait le choix de ce secteur Cette fois çi nous partons avec un chauffeur sans passer par une agence sans réserver d'hôtel (c'est notre 4 e voyage) Dans votre programme il faut garder Agra fathepur sikri jodpur ranakpur udaipur
Bon voyage
nous avons fait sensiblement ce circuit en 2007 avec une agence française nous avons été satisfait mais nous avons passé notre temps en voiture et les visites au pas de charge Pour 15 jours jaiselmer est loin je ne discute pas l'intêret de ce lieu Pour le dromadaire il y a bikaner mais vous n'avez pas fait le choix de ce secteur Cette fois çi nous partons avec un chauffeur sans passer par une agence sans réserver d'hôtel (c'est notre 4 e voyage) Dans votre programme il faut garder Agra fathepur sikri jodpur ranakpur udaipur
Bon voyage
bonjour Indymalte, je souscris au programme que tu suggeres a Nabilou01, en indiquant que Fathepur peut se visiter en allant ou revenant de Agra vers Delhi, pas la peine d'y passer une nuit. Je prefere Jaisalmer, malgré l'eloignement. c'est mon avis perso.
le voyage est un bonheur, pas une destination, Ando
Hoteltravel.com
Ceci est valable pour les guesthouse, les petits hotels.
Mais si tu tapes dans la catégorie confort (4, 5 étoiles en Inde...), tu trouveras de bien meilleurs prix sur le net (centrales de réservation pas site de l'hotel )qu'à la réception de l'hotel.
Vu le budget initial de Nabilou01 (2600 € par personne), il peut sans souci fréquenter ce genre d'hotels voir même programmer un hotel de luxe genre l'Impérial à Delhi durant son parcours .
Et pour avoir une idée de l'hotel, il ne faut pas évidemment se fier aux photos de leur site mais aux avis donnés par les voyageurs.
Mais si tu tapes dans la catégorie confort (4, 5 étoiles en Inde...), tu trouveras de bien meilleurs prix sur le net (centrales de réservation pas site de l'hotel )qu'à la réception de l'hotel.
Vu le budget initial de Nabilou01 (2600 € par personne), il peut sans souci fréquenter ce genre d'hotels voir même programmer un hotel de luxe genre l'Impérial à Delhi durant son parcours .
Et pour avoir une idée de l'hotel, il ne faut pas évidemment se fier aux photos de leur site mais aux avis donnés par les voyageurs.
Voici mon programme en 2010 :
http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=3639544;
En 15 jours et en voiture de location, la visite du Rajastahan est tout à fait réalisable.
A partir du jour 4, je ferais plutôt :
Jour 4 Shekhwati –Bikaner Jour 5 Bikaner-Jaisalmer Jour 6 Jaisalmer Jour 7 Jaisalmer – Jodhpur Jour 8 Jodhpur-Ranakpur Jour 9 Ranakpur-Udaipur
La visite de Delhi peut aussi se programmer en fin de séjour.
http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=3639544;
En 15 jours et en voiture de location, la visite du Rajastahan est tout à fait réalisable.
A partir du jour 4, je ferais plutôt :
Jour 4 Shekhwati –Bikaner Jour 5 Bikaner-Jaisalmer Jour 6 Jaisalmer Jour 7 Jaisalmer – Jodhpur Jour 8 Jodhpur-Ranakpur Jour 9 Ranakpur-Udaipur
La visite de Delhi peut aussi se programmer en fin de séjour.
Merci bcp pour tte vos reponses. Cela m'aide bcp a preparer ce voyage. Je ne veux surtout pas etre decu!!
L'agence qui me propose ce programme est hindvoyage... Connaissez vous??
Et oui en effet il y a un hotel de luxe que nous avons prévu a Agra le AMARILLAS qui donne une vue remarquable sur le taj mahal (d'apres les photos)
Si vous avez d'autres renseignements n'hesitez surtout pas a me les poster ici. MERCI Nab.
Si vous avez d'autres renseignements n'hesitez surtout pas a me les poster ici. MERCI Nab.
Je choisirais plus l'Impérial, le Rambagh palace ou le lake Palace....
Parce qu'une nuit c'est trop court pour bien profiter des beautés d'un hotel de charme et parce que ces hotels sont chargés d'histoire alors que le Amarvillas n'est qu'une copie.
Parce qu'une nuit c'est trop court pour bien profiter des beautés d'un hotel de charme et parce que ces hotels sont chargés d'histoire alors que le Amarvillas n'est qu'une copie.
les hotels de luxe a " l occidentale " sont stereotypees. a Delhi, je prefere le Nirulas, tres bonne ambiance et juste à Connaught Place. il y a une centrale de resa à eviter absolument, elle donne les prix les plus bas .... mais tres grosse frayeur quand tu arrives, pas de resa a l'hotel malgré tous les mails que tu as imprimés. Voir Trip Advisor pour commentaires. quant aux avis, voir ma PJ si j'arrive a la joindre.
le voyage est un bonheur, pas une destination, Ando
c qu'elle centrale de resa qu'il faut evité? Oui j'ai pu lire l'articles merci bcp...
La je fais differentes recherches et je me rend compte que l'agence hindvoyage me met les hotels les plus cher malgre qu'il soit de mm categorie que plusieurs autre hotel...! decevant!!!
qu'elles avait ete votre circuit Ando?
MERCI Nab.
MERCI Nab.
les hotels de luxe a " l occidentale " sont stereotypees.
Je ne les ai pas du tout trouvés stéréotypés.... Et pour des hotels à l'occidentale, ils ont plutôt une clientèle indienne....
Pour les centrales de réservation, il faut souvent acheter tantôt chez l'un, tantôt chez l'autre.... Expédia est très rarement compétitif, comme tous les autres sites occidentaux. Il faut plutôt se tourner vers les sites asiatiques comme agoda ou hoteltravel.
Asiarooms était très intéressant quand il était indépendant. Maintenant, il a été racheté par TUI (nouvelles frontières) et les prix ne sont plus du tout ce qu'ils étaient....
Je pense que le mieux est de faire un comparatif sur un site comme hotelscombined et regarder en plus hoteltravel qui n'est pas dans la base de données d'hotelscombined.
Je ne les ai pas du tout trouvés stéréotypés.... Et pour des hotels à l'occidentale, ils ont plutôt une clientèle indienne....
Pour les centrales de réservation, il faut souvent acheter tantôt chez l'un, tantôt chez l'autre.... Expédia est très rarement compétitif, comme tous les autres sites occidentaux. Il faut plutôt se tourner vers les sites asiatiques comme agoda ou hoteltravel.
Asiarooms était très intéressant quand il était indépendant. Maintenant, il a été racheté par TUI (nouvelles frontières) et les prix ne sont plus du tout ce qu'ils étaient....
Je pense que le mieux est de faire un comparatif sur un site comme hotelscombined et regarder en plus hoteltravel qui n'est pas dans la base de données d'hotelscombined.
Bonjour,
ton circuit est faisable, mais pour 2600 € je trouve que c'est très cher ! ou alors c'est tout du "heritage hotel" grand luxe ! une fois c'est bien, mais franchement, est-ce bien la peine de dépenser des sommes importantes pour rester quelques heures dans un lit, il y en a de très bien pour pas très cher... En février les dépenses ont été pour à peu près ce même circuit mais en 24 jours de 48 euros par personne et par jour absolument tout compris, hébergement, nourriture (abondante avec 3 repas, dessert, bière, café !), location de voiture, les entrées avec appareil photo, et même les pourboires, (hors frais billet d'avion international), ce qui fait pour 15 jours, 720 euros sans le billet... Avec une nuit dans un heritage hotel, à Bijaipur près de Chittorgarh. Là il est nécessaire de réserver mais pour le reste... on trouve facilement surtout si on a un bon chauffeur qui connait bien son circuit !
Bijoliane
Le but suprême du voyageur est de ne plus savoir ce qu'il contemple ; chaque être, chaque chose est occasion de voyage et de contemplation. Lie-Tseu
J'ai mis un prix par personne pour pouvoir faire une comparaison avec votre devis qui était par personne et ajouté 10 % d'augmentation par rapport à un séjour en 2010 où j'avais effectivement payé une trentaine d'euros par jour tout compris.
Je ne recommanderais pas de chauffeur en particulier car vous ne pourrez être jamais sûr d'avoir tel ou tel chauffeur. Il faut surtout s'attacher au sérieux d'une agence qui ne vous laissera pas en plan après paiement.
Je n'ai pas eu de soucis avec l'agence que j'ai indiqué dans mon compte rendu de voyage. Le chauffeur conduisait à l'indienne ce qui peut surprendre au début.... Il ne faut pas hésiter à dire que vous préferez aller moins vite. Pour un client indien, la vitesse est le critère numéro d'un bon chauffeur. Pour un occidental, ce sera la prudence.... Si le chauffeur n'est habitué qu'à conduire des indiens il ne connait pas nos préférences. Il faut donc le lui dire !
Sinon, je vous conseille de demander également des devis aux agences indiquées au chapitre Delhi dans les guides sérieux (Lonely, Michelin...)
Je ne recommanderais pas de chauffeur en particulier car vous ne pourrez être jamais sûr d'avoir tel ou tel chauffeur. Il faut surtout s'attacher au sérieux d'une agence qui ne vous laissera pas en plan après paiement.
Je n'ai pas eu de soucis avec l'agence que j'ai indiqué dans mon compte rendu de voyage. Le chauffeur conduisait à l'indienne ce qui peut surprendre au début.... Il ne faut pas hésiter à dire que vous préferez aller moins vite. Pour un client indien, la vitesse est le critère numéro d'un bon chauffeur. Pour un occidental, ce sera la prudence.... Si le chauffeur n'est habitué qu'à conduire des indiens il ne connait pas nos préférences. Il faut donc le lui dire !
Sinon, je vous conseille de demander également des devis aux agences indiquées au chapitre Delhi dans les guides sérieux (Lonely, Michelin...)
pour mon dernier voyage de Delhi a Delhi, j'ai tout simplement fait appel a la reception de l' hotel pour me trouver un taxi. Comme ca , en cas de pbs, je savais a qui me plaindre.
J'ai simplement negocié ensuite le prix, en fonction du nombre de jours. Par contre , ton post indique prix par personne. J'ai payé moi, prix par voiture. c'est a toi ensuite de diviser s'il y a lieu.
le voyage est un bonheur, pas une destination, Ando
Bonjour,
J'ai fait l'Inde pendant 15 jours pour 1800 euros tout compris (jusqu'au Visa et les frais perso) et la 2me fois, je suis partie faire un peu le même circuit que toi avec Puschkar et Amritsar en plus pendant un mois pour 2300 euros;
Je te conseille de prendre une voiture avec chauffeur qui te fera le parcours que tu veux (400-450 euros max pour deux semaines - tout compris) Et tu es libre!!!
par contre , pour ton circuit, il est trop serré pour le nombre de jours; j'ai beau regardé mais tu ne peux faire tout ça sinon tu ne profiteras pas, tu verras le quart et tu sera crevé. Il vaut mieux zaper des villes et les refaire une autre fois sinon (mais moi, je ne le ferai pas, mieux vaut bien visiter):
Jour 1 Delhi – Arrivée
Jour 2 Delhi
Jour 3 Delhi
Jour 4 Shekhwati
Jour 5 Shekhawati
Jour 6 Shekhawati- Bikaner
Jour 7 Bikaner - Jaisalmer (Montée à dos de chameau): vraiment si tu aimes!!!! perso non
Jour 8 Jaisalmer (vaut la peine d'y rester et de zaper une autre ville)
Jour 9 Jaisalmer - Jodhpur
Jour 10 Jodhpur - Udaipur
Jour 11 Udaipur - Jaipur
Jour 12 Jaipur (Montée à dos d’éléphant: fais le à pied c'est mieux)
Jour 13 Jaipur - Agra
Jour 14 Agra
Jour 15 Agra - Delhi
Jour 16 Retour en France – Delhi – Paris
Tiens nous au courant de ta décision!
MARIE
"Chaque voyage se vit différemment même si la destination est la même; c'est notre état d'esprit du moment et nos rencontres qui en font la différence"
Une voiture avec chauffeur pour 17 euros par jour; impossible en Inde.....Ou alors donne de suite ses coordonnées!!!! En plus en tata indigo!!!!
Oui, on dit 30 Euros/jour mais c'est par voiture; donc forcément si on est 2 ou 3 ou 4 ... On y arrive à ton prix!!!
MARIE
"Chaque voyage se vit différemment même si la destination est la même; c'est notre état d'esprit du moment et nos rencontres qui en font la différence"
Il vaut mieux zaper des villes et les refaire une autre fois sinon
Nous n'avons pas toute la chance de pouvoir visiter plusieurs fois. si j'y retourne je feraiis surement le sud! mais je vais deja faire le rajasthan sa sera cool.
1er soirée : Delhi 2ème Jour : Delhi- Mandawa 3ème Jour : Mandawa- Bikaner 4ème Jour : Bikaner- Jaisalmer 5eme jour : Jaisalmer 6eme jour : Jaisalmer- Jodhpur 7ème jour : Jodhpur–Ranakpur (arrêt quelques heures)-Udaipur 8ème jour : Udaipur 9ème jour : Udaipur 10ème jour :Udaipur- Bundi 11ème jour : Bundi- Jaipur 12ème jour : Jaipur 13ème jour : Jaipur- Fathepur sikri (arrêt de quelques heures)- Agra 14ème jour : Agra 15ème jour : Agra- Delhi 16ème jour :Réveil Delhi- Retour France
Voilà pour le moment l'itineraire que j'ai refait mais pas encore validé; qu'en pensez vous???? Shekhwati VAUT IL LE DETOUR???? On m'a dit que mandawa etait tout pres.
Nous n'avons pas toute la chance de pouvoir visiter plusieurs fois. si j'y retourne je feraiis surement le sud! mais je vais deja faire le rajasthan sa sera cool.
1er soirée : Delhi 2ème Jour : Delhi- Mandawa 3ème Jour : Mandawa- Bikaner 4ème Jour : Bikaner- Jaisalmer 5eme jour : Jaisalmer 6eme jour : Jaisalmer- Jodhpur 7ème jour : Jodhpur–Ranakpur (arrêt quelques heures)-Udaipur 8ème jour : Udaipur 9ème jour : Udaipur 10ème jour :Udaipur- Bundi 11ème jour : Bundi- Jaipur 12ème jour : Jaipur 13ème jour : Jaipur- Fathepur sikri (arrêt de quelques heures)- Agra 14ème jour : Agra 15ème jour : Agra- Delhi 16ème jour :Réveil Delhi- Retour France
Voilà pour le moment l'itineraire que j'ai refait mais pas encore validé; qu'en pensez vous???? Shekhwati VAUT IL LE DETOUR???? On m'a dit que mandawa etait tout pres.
Je vois que tout le monde a du mal à comprendre que j'ai écrit 17 euros pour donner à nabilou01 une idée de budget par personne....
Il est évident qu'une voiture se loue à la journée quelque soit le nombre d'occupant et effectivement pour une tata indigo l'ordre de prix est de 30-35 euros par jour selon le parcours et la présence ou non de clim.
Vous êtes donc tous d'accord que s'il y a 2 occupants dans la voiture, la location reviendra à chacun de 15 à 17 euros/j 😉
Il est évident qu'une voiture se loue à la journée quelque soit le nombre d'occupant et effectivement pour une tata indigo l'ordre de prix est de 30-35 euros par jour selon le parcours et la présence ou non de clim.
Vous êtes donc tous d'accord que s'il y a 2 occupants dans la voiture, la location reviendra à chacun de 15 à 17 euros/j 😉
Shekhwati VAUT IL LE DETOUR???? On m'a dit que mandawa etait tout pres. 
Tu ne verras pas ailleurs de maisons peintes. L'haveli Nadine Leprince a été très bien restauré et la visite est en Français .
La plupart des hotels sont effectivement sur Mandawa. Evite le Mandawa Castle, les employés ne sont très honnêtes (toujours vérifier les additions)🤪

Tu ne verras pas ailleurs de maisons peintes. L'haveli Nadine Leprince a été très bien restauré et la visite est en Français .
La plupart des hotels sont effectivement sur Mandawa. Evite le Mandawa Castle, les employés ne sont très honnêtes (toujours vérifier les additions)🤪
Votre programme ne vous permet pas de visiter et d'apprécier jodpur et udaipur, les étapes sont longues, jodpur arrêt à ranakpur ( qu'à mon avis il faut absolument visiter) et étape à udaipur, vous arriverez à la nuit à
Udaipur et départ dès le lendement vous ne verrez rien à udaipur
Je sais que c'est très compliqué de faire des choix c'est ce que je fais pour mon prochain voyage
En inde il faut raisonner en heure de route, je crois qu'il vous faut pour construire votre circuit prendre ces renseignements
delhi mandowa 6 h
mandowa bikaner 4 h
bikaner jaiselmer 4 à 5 h
jaiselmer jodpur 4h30 à 5 h
jodpur udaipur 6 à 7 h sans la visite de ranakpur
udaipur chittogarh 3 à 4 h
chittogard bundi je ne sais plus
moi je veux faire bundi orccha qui fait environ 6 h orchha agra également 6 voir 7 h Je ne vais pas à jaïpur, que je n'ai pas beaucoup apprécié lors de mon premier voyage Bonne continuation la préparation du voyage est aussi agréable que le voyage lui même 🙂
moi je veux faire bundi orccha qui fait environ 6 h orchha agra également 6 voir 7 h Je ne vais pas à jaïpur, que je n'ai pas beaucoup apprécié lors de mon premier voyage Bonne continuation la préparation du voyage est aussi agréable que le voyage lui même 🙂
Je sais compter! mais il faut préciser que c'est par voiture pour les personnes non habituées qui voyage seul(e).... et de là, elles savent aussi à combien elles voyagent et tout le monde sait faire la division!!!😉
MARIE
"Chaque voyage se vit différemment même si la destination est la même; c'est notre état d'esprit du moment et nos rencontres qui en font la différence"
Si vous voulez rouler et ne rien voir, c'est votre choix.
Moi, je ne le ferai pas.
Vous serez déçu.
Mieux vaut faire moins et avoir une idée de l'Inde que faire toutes ces villes et ne rien voir.
Je suis d'accord qu'il faut calculer les distances en heures.... Compter une moyenne de 50 km/H.
Votre manière de faire vaut celle des agences de voyage mais chacun son choix après tout.😄
Pour répondre à votre question MANDAWA est génial et vaut la peine de s'y attarder deux jours (si vous voulez vous imprégnez). C'est l'Inde profonde!
Jaisalmer est aussi à rester minimun deux jours complets comme toutes les autres grandes villes d'ailleurs; je ne parle pas de Jaipur où il faut compter trois jours.
Vous oubliez peut-être de compter la fatigue des visites (voyez mon récit: voyage seule un mois en Inde) à moins que vous ne comptiez rien visiter à fond.... Et faire, comme les japonnais : arrêt photo...😠
Bon choix.
MARIE
"Chaque voyage se vit différemment même si la destination est la même; c'est notre état d'esprit du moment et nos rencontres qui en font la différence"
Je compléte ma réponse pour avoir des renseignements sur les distances en heure allez sur le site
www.chaufeureninde.com et consulter la rubrique distance vous y trouverez les renseignements sur les étapes les plus courantes🙂
delhi mandowa 6 h
mandowa bikaner 4 h
bikaner jaiselmer 4 à 5 h
jaiselmer jodpur 4h30 à 5 h
jodpur udaipur 6 à 7 h sans la visite de ranakpur
udaipur chittogarh 3 à 4 h
je suis perplexe , quand il y a des trajets de 6 ou 7 heures, sans compter les arrets "detente", ni l'arret " dejeuner " , ma question est : quand visite t'on la ville si on n'y reste qu'une demi journée ?
je suis perplexe , quand il y a des trajets de 6 ou 7 heures, sans compter les arrets "detente", ni l'arret " dejeuner " , ma question est : quand visite t'on la ville si on n'y reste qu'une demi journée ?
le voyage est un bonheur, pas une destination, Ando
Quand on prévoit un circuit sur une période courte, on ne fait pas de grasse matinée.....
Sinon, Delhi Mandawa ce n'est pas 6 heures dans la voiture mais 6 heures visites incluses.
Et certaines routes indiennes sont désormais assez roulantes pour que le 50 km/h soit dépassé. (Pas les routes autour de Mandawa ni celles pour rejoindre Ranakpur toutefois...)
Sinon, Delhi Mandawa ce n'est pas 6 heures dans la voiture mais 6 heures visites incluses.
Et certaines routes indiennes sont désormais assez roulantes pour que le 50 km/h soit dépassé. (Pas les routes autour de Mandawa ni celles pour rejoindre Ranakpur toutefois...)
Quand on prévoit un circuit sur une période courte, on ne fait pas de grasse matinée.....
Sinon, Delhi Mandawa ce n'est pas 6 heures dans la voiture mais 6 heures visites incluses
mea culpa, le titre du post c'est " voyage ", la ca devient de la compet ... OU EST LE FUN ?
mea culpa, le titre du post c'est " voyage ", la ca devient de la compet ... OU EST LE FUN ?
le voyage est un bonheur, pas une destination, Ando
moi personnellement, je mets trois heures pour visiter un fort ou un palais ou un havelis.
Et je n'ai envie de rien rater sinon je passe carrément.
C'est vrai qu'il y a certains tronçons de route où on peut rouler plus vite, mais là encore, on fait une moyenne !!!
MARIE
"Chaque voyage se vit différemment même si la destination est la même; c'est notre état d'esprit du moment et nos rencontres qui en font la différence"
Je pense qu'il ne faut pas oublier avant tout que c un voyage je ne vais pas courir après le temps. si je dois enlever une ville durant mon voyage je le ferais j'ai regarder sur différent site et en aucun cas il parle d'aussi long trajet!!!!!
apres quand on choisit de faire un voyage en circuit je ne pense pas que c pour se détendre sinon autant aller aux Maldives ou la c sur on ne bougera pas d'un poil; enfin bon je sais que ce genre de voyage est "fatiguant" mais tout ne peut pas etre tout beau tout rose si l'on souhaite decouvrir d'autres pays, cultures....
et je pense qu'on peut largement apprécier Udaipur pendant 2journée completes et une demi journée (certaines personnes le fond en 1journée!!!) et jodhpur une après midi et une matinée doivent egalement suffir!!
j'ai lu bcp bcp de carnet de voyage et certaines personnes rester 1journée seulement dans chaque ville!!!!
j'ai lu bcp bcp de carnet de voyage et certaines personnes rester 1journée seulement dans chaque ville!!!!
salut, ce n'est pas parce l'un reste 2j et l'autre 1/2j que tu dois faire comme l'un ou l'autre ! il faut que ce soit a ton rythme perso. Une ville peut plaire a l'un et te deplaire completement, et vice versa. Ton voyage sans resa d'hotel te permet justement cette independance et liberté. et ca tu ne le sauras que quand tu arriveras toi meme dans cette ville, et ce quoiqu'en disent VF, LP ou GdR; Ceci dit, il y a un autre parametre dont tu devrais tenir compte, c'est la fatigue due au climat, a la chaleur, etc ...
le voyage est un bonheur, pas une destination, Ando
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Après un faux départ en mars 2026 dû à l'annulation de mes vols Qatar, je reprogramme un voyage au Kerala en novembre. Pour mars, j'avais réservé et payé le trek de 2 jours/une nuit : Tiger trail dans le parc Periyar. Puis j'ai lu des avis horribles sur le parc. Sur VF, les avis sont anciens, et ne parlent pas du Tiger Trail. Aussi, avant de réserver à nouveau (j'ai le temps), quelqu'un l'a-t-il fait récemment et peut partager son expérience et ressenti. Je parle bien du Tiger Trail, pas des activités jeep/bateau du parc en lui-même, qui semblent plus relever du parc d'attractions. Merci
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Hello,
I’m heading to Sri Lanka for 3 weeks in July with my two 11-year-old kids, and I’m wondering about how to organize the trip. We’re used to traveling on the go, staying 1 to 2 or 3 nights per place depending on how we feel.
Do you recommend planning the itinerary and booking accommodations in advance to save time once we’re there? Or is it pretty easy to organize everything as we go without any issues?
Same question for activities: Should we book safaris and tours ahead of time, or can we arrange them easily on the spot? Is there a risk of not getting a spot, for example, to visit a park since we’ll be there in July?
We’ll be using local transport (train, VTC via PickMe, tuk-tuk) to get from one place to another.
In short: Are there any must-book things we should reserve now? So far, I only have the flight tickets!
Thanks in advance for your help! 😊
I’m heading to Sri Lanka for 3 weeks in July with my two 11-year-old kids, and I’m wondering about how to organize the trip. We’re used to traveling on the go, staying 1 to 2 or 3 nights per place depending on how we feel.
Do you recommend planning the itinerary and booking accommodations in advance to save time once we’re there? Or is it pretty easy to organize everything as we go without any issues?
Same question for activities: Should we book safaris and tours ahead of time, or can we arrange them easily on the spot? Is there a risk of not getting a spot, for example, to visit a park since we’ll be there in July?
We’ll be using local transport (train, VTC via PickMe, tuk-tuk) to get from one place to another.
In short: Are there any must-book things we should reserve now? So far, I only have the flight tickets!
Thanks in advance for your help! 😊
Hi there, I think you're on the right track—you plan the itinerary and book the rooms in advance, and that’s it.
Not only do you save time, but you also know where you’ll be staying each night. Choosing well on Booking (or elsewhere) is actually a pleasure!
For safaris, given the number of jeeps with drivers available, it’s unlikely you’ll be turned away... the real issue is more about the concentration of jeeps around the animals.
I travel like you do—train, bus, tuk-tuk, and sometimes taxi. Ride-hailing apps like PickMe and other VTCs are mostly in big cities.
For the mountain train, due to severe flooding, service was interrupted on the line between Kandy and Ella. Check ahead, because reservations for this train are very complicated, if not impossible.
For the Colombo/Kandy train, you reserve your seats by buying the ticket before boarding. In the south, no need to book in advance for trains.
In Sri Lanka, there’s always a solution for getting around—just ask your hosts. They have trusted contacts at their fingertips. But still, compare prices—😏 smart move!
I stick to booking my nights and keep pre-planned activities to a minimum.
For reservations you can’t skip, it’s the beach stays you’ll want to secure.
Hi there,
I’m trying to find out if it’s still possible to travel from Mumbai to Goa by ferry or any other sea route. My search results aren’t very clear, and if it *is* possible, I can’t figure out where to book... If anyone has any info, I’d really appreciate it—thanks in advance!
Have a great day,
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Have a great day,
Virginie
It seems there’s a ferry from Nagapattinam to Jaffna in India. Has anyone here taken this ferry before? My main question is how to get to Nagapattinam—by train, bus? And from which town further south, of course.
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Hi there.
We’re spending a month in Sri Lanka in March, and we’ll have one week left after leaving Polonnaruwa.
We’re torn between spending it in the Jaffna region or on the east coast between Batticaloa and Trincomalee.
We’re divers, so the east coast appeals to us for snorkeling, beaches, and lagoons—but it seems like late March might not be the best time for that coast. What do you think?
As for Jaffna, the culture of the region, its more authentic feel since it’s less touristy, and the offshore islands all appeal to us too—but it seems far from the rest of the country and harder to access.
We have to choose because we won’t be able to visit both sides, and I’d love to hear your thoughts.
Thanks, Marie
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We just got back from a 2-week trip to Sri Lanka as a couple, and while planning the trip, we found plenty of info on the itinerary, places to see, and transportation, but much fewer clear reports on the actual budget to expect once there. Yet, that was an important point for us because we like to plan ahead a little before traveling.
So, we took the time to break down our complete budget after the trip. In our case, we spent around **930 € per person** for 2 weeks, being careful without depriving ourselves, mixing guesthouses, more comfortable hotels, quite a few activities, and even a private driver for part of the stay.
What we found interesting when crunching the numbers is that in Sri Lanka, it’s not necessarily meals or short trips that blow the budget, but rather flights, certain accommodations, cultural activities, and all those little expenses we sometimes forget, like tips.
If this can help other travelers get a better idea, we’ve put everything together on our blog with our experience, a detailed breakdown of expenses, and practical info on money while there, withdrawals, and tipping:
https://aventures-sans-mesaventure.com/budget-sri-lanka-pour-un-voyage-de-2-semaines/
Happy travels and enjoy your adventure! !
Happy travels and enjoy your adventure! !
Hi everyone,
We’re a group of 5 heading to the Everest Base Camp trek in early April. We won’t have a porter or guide—we’re used to hiking independently and have already done the Langtang trek and the Annapurna Circuit (back in 2003!).
I’d love to know if it’s necessary to book lodges in advance or if we’ll easily find availability during this busy season. Also, will we find lodges all along the route between the main stopover villages, or only in those villages? I remember there were plenty everywhere on the Annapurna Circuit. We want to stay as flexible as possible.
Thanks for your feedback!
We’re a group of 5 heading to the Everest Base Camp trek in early April. We won’t have a porter or guide—we’re used to hiking independently and have already done the Langtang trek and the Annapurna Circuit (back in 2003!).
I’d love to know if it’s necessary to book lodges in advance or if we’ll easily find availability during this busy season. Also, will we find lodges all along the route between the main stopover villages, or only in those villages? I remember there were plenty everywhere on the Annapurna Circuit. We want to stay as flexible as possible.
Thanks for your feedback!
Hi there,
We’re heading to India in March 2026 and had planned to visit the parts of the Meenakshi Temple that are open to non-Hindus. However, the temple is currently undergoing major renovations—with all the towers covered in scaffolding—which might really take away from the experience and our stop in Madurai.
After some frustrating and vague online searches, and before we reshuffle our itinerary, I’d love to know—if possible—the most accurate expected completion date for the renovation work.
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We’re heading to India in March 2026 and had planned to visit the parts of the Meenakshi Temple that are open to non-Hindus. However, the temple is currently undergoing major renovations—with all the towers covered in scaffolding—which might really take away from the experience and our stop in Madurai.
After some frustrating and vague online searches, and before we reshuffle our itinerary, I’d love to know—if possible—the most accurate expected completion date for the renovation work.
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Hey fellow travelers,
I’m spending two weeks studying Hindi in the mornings in Delhi, in the Hauz Khas neighborhood. What spots should I check out in this area? Any cafés to chill at? How do I get to other parts of Delhi? By rickshaw? Is it easy to negotiate the price upfront?
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Hi,
I’m leaving this Saturday for Northern India from 15/02 to 27/02. I’m planning to visit New Delhi, Agra, Chand Baori, Jaipur, Ranthambore, Bundi, Udaipur, and Jodhpur.
What’s the best way to get around? I was thinking of doing everything by train. Maybe taking the bus for some stretches?
As for renting a car with a driver, it seems expensive, so I’ve pretty much ruled that out. Unless someone’s got space for the same dates?
Thanks for your insights!
What’s the best way to get around? I was thinking of doing everything by train. Maybe taking the bus for some stretches?
As for renting a car with a driver, it seems expensive, so I’ve pretty much ruled that out. Unless someone’s got space for the same dates?
Thanks for your insights!
Hi everyone,
We’re heading out in March for this trek. We’re used to hiking and long-distance treks, but this’ll be our first time in Nepal.
QUESTION: People from Nepal are telling us it’s MANDATORY to have guides! Is this true, or is it just agencies trying to get work for their staff?
The Lonely Planet says: "In April 2023, the government announced that every trekker would need to hire the services of a porter or a licensed guide to obtain the TIMS permit. The law isn’t enforced, and by 2025, there were no longer any obligations for teahouse treks."
What do you think? What’s your experience? Thanks for your feedback.
We’re heading out in March for this trek. We’re used to hiking and long-distance treks, but this’ll be our first time in Nepal.
QUESTION: People from Nepal are telling us it’s MANDATORY to have guides! Is this true, or is it just agencies trying to get work for their staff?
The Lonely Planet says: "In April 2023, the government announced that every trekker would need to hire the services of a porter or a licensed guide to obtain the TIMS permit. The law isn’t enforced, and by 2025, there were no longer any obligations for teahouse treks."
What do you think? What’s your experience? Thanks for your feedback.
Hi,
I’d like to arrive in India at New Delhi Airport with some cash. I was wondering if the exchange rates at the airport are any good or if it’s best to avoid them (and exchange in the city instead?).
Thanks for your help.
Thanks for your help.
NAMASTE NEPAL! PRACTICAL INFO AND EXPERIENCE FEEDBACK
Stay from March 25 to April 16, 2025
· Flight tickets Air India (via Delhi) (via Skyscanner) = 1130 € per person · Planned budget (and respected without too many restrictions and while buying a few small gifts) = 2000 € for the stay for two. Buses, taxis, and entrance fees to various sites represent a budget to consider. Meals are cheap. Drinks like beer/Coke, however, are not cheap and cost the equivalent of a meal. · Exchange rate of the rupee during our stay = 0.0064 € (the exchange rate is almost identical everywhere, including at the airport). · At the airport, purchase of two SIM cards (phone) = 1000 NPR x 2 for 28 days. · Kathmandu: we had booked the hotel upon arrival: Kathmandu Boutique Hotel (+977 015 357 446 – email: booking@kathmanduboutiquehotel.com), very well located in a quiet alley off the street, south of Thamel, a 10-minute walk from Durbar Square. A hotel like Nepal knows how to do, where tall people will have to duck. Night + breakfast = 18 € for two. Very warm welcome, great location, excellent value for money. · Bhaktapur: we had also booked a hotel for the end of our stay because the chance of the year 2025 made the Nepali New Year and Bisket Jatra particularly festive in Bhaktapur: Manju Baha Hotel School (+977 976 7234014 – email: manjubahahotel@gmail.com) located in an old monastery. "A social enterprise transforming an old monastery into a charming hotel, offering professional hospitality training to underprivileged Nepali youth." Night + breakfast = 32 € for two. Beautifully decorated room. Very warm welcome. Don’t miss the Changunarayan site (near Bhaktapur), it’s amazing. And if you’re lucky enough to be in Bhaktapur in mid-April for 3 days, there’s the Bisket Jatra festivities (Newari festival), joyful, noisy, fun, and wild… · Pokhara (hotel recommended by the Kathmandu hotel): Hotel Green Tara, Lakeside, 10th street, set back, quiet (Tel. +977 61 462698 – email: greentara_67@hotmail.com) · Trek permit (Lower Mustang, no need for an agency or guide, permits checked at Ghasa and Jomsom) = 2000 NPR per person (2 ID photos) · Bus Kathmandu/Pokhara and return = 2000 NPR per person · Bus Pokhara/Jomsom, 2 one-way tickets = 2800 NPR. · Taxi: negotiation with a driver we recommend, Vicky (+977 984 075 599). You explain what you want, negotiate the price, and he waits for you during the visit. Very charming, we used him several times. For example: departure from our hotel at 10 AM -> Boudhanath/Pashupatinath/Patan return at 5 PM to the hotel = 6500 NPR – Swayambhunath (round trip) = 1200 NPR · Site prices: https://ntb.gov.np/plan-your-trip/before-you-come/heritage-site-entry-fees o Visitor Pass for Kathmandu Durbar Square (for the duration of the stay, show your visa) = 1000 NPR per person (1 ID photo) o Bhaktapur Durbar Square (old town) = 1800 NPR per person o Patan = 1000 NPR per person o Swayambhu Stupa = 200 NPR per person o Boudha Stupa = 200 NPR per person o Pashupatinath Temple = 1000 NPR per person (interesting to take a guide) o Changunarayan Temple (6 km north of Bhaktapur) = 400 NPR per person o Mountain Museum in Pokhara = 750 NPR per person · E-cigarettes: e-cigarettes are banned in India and confiscated whether they’re in carry-on or checked luggage. On the way there, we had kept them in our carry-on, they were confiscated in Delhi. On the way back, learning from our previous experience, we put them in our checked luggage. Someone came to get us to take them out of our bags and confiscate them… You can find e-cigarettes and products in Kathmandu.
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I’m 74 years old. I went to Nepal in 1982, 1983, and the last time in 1986. I wanted to introduce this beautiful and endearing country to my husband, and it was… now or never. So we decided it was now.
I knew the trek starting from Pokhara: Naudanda/Birethanti/Ghorepani/Tatopani/Kalopani. There was no way I was going to do that trek, especially the 1000-meter staircase to reach Ghorepani… You have to stay humble with age.
Back then, the road didn’t exist. I didn’t consider, with the construction of this road (NH48) along the western bank of the Kali Gandaki, doing a trek along a windy and dusty road. Was there an alternative hiking trail on the eastern bank? No one answered my question on VoyageForum, so I did my research online. And I found this site: "Andrées de Ruiter and Prem Rai - Trekking the Annapurna Circuit, including the new NATT trails that avoid the road - A guide to one of the most beautiful trekking regions in Nepal and the world (2011) - NATT = New Annapurna Trekking Trail".
Phew! A solution was emerging. This circuit from 2011 wasn’t fully marked. The idea was to go from Jomsom to Tatopani, so we needed to make sure the path was well-marked all the way, which we did, and the path exists, marked in red and white!
So, with the walking times information, we built our 8-day circuit:
· Jomsom/Thinigaon · Thinigaon/Chimang · Chimang/Saura · Saura/Kokhetanti · Rest day or, if in good shape: loop to Sekong Lake · Kokhetanti/Jhipra Deurali · Jhipra Deurali/Kopchepani · Kopchepani/Tatopani
It’s a senior trek, after all. So the walking times noted on the sites indicated 3 hours or even 4 hours for the two longest stages. That pace suited us fine.
On March 29, we left Kathmandu (1400m), after visiting the must-see sites, by bus to Pokhara: 200 km and 8.5 hours on a chaotic road under construction. I had a memory of Pokhara where it was the first city where you could see the Himalayan range, especially Machhapuchhare. But the pollution is such, the dust raised by traffic and construction, that no horizon is visible except the first hills around Pokhara.
We stayed 24 hours in Pokhara (820m), and on March 31, we left our luggage at the hotel and set off with our lightest backpacks: change of clothes, toiletries, first aid kit, anti-chafing cream, water bottle, sleeping bag liner, and light shoes for the stages.
We took the bus to Jomsom: 160 km/7.5 hours including stops for bathroom breaks, tea, and lunch. The road is nothing but a chaos of potholes, landslides, construction, dust, rebuilding, and mudslides. In Ghasa, the bus stops, and we’re told we’re at a checkpoint and that the two foreigners in the bus, my husband and I, need to have our permits checked, which takes a few minutes. The driving is rock-and-roll, surprising, and courteous. The drivers have their codes, and on these improbable roads, they’re virtuosos.
We could have chosen the plane, but several reasons dissuaded us: if there’s too much wind, the planes don’t take off; personally, I wasn’t reassured about landing in Jomsom, and this transport has a cost.
We arrived around 2 PM in Jomsom (2720m), and despite the early wake-up, the nearly 8 hours on the bus, and the altitude, we decided to head straight to Thinigaon (2840m). At the Jomsom checkpoint, they told us it was a 30-minute walk. Great! Except we took an hour and a half on an uphill road, bent over to fight a strong wind. But the Himalayan range is there! The Dhaulagiri, the Nilgiri, the Annapurnas as a reward.
In Thinigaon, we found a room at the "Nilgiri View Hotel" run by a didi (big sister in Nepali). From the lodge’s roof, she proudly showed us the different peaks surrounding the village and told us, worried, that it hadn’t snowed here for 3 years. She said there are very few tourists, that the season is rather in September/October/November. It seems there’s not a soul in this village, yet mules pass through the narrow street paved with large flat stones, their bells ringing. We dine at 6 PM and go to bed… Room = 1200 NPR and dinner, breakfast, and drinks = 2560 NPR.
On April 1, we set off at 9 AM, not for Chimang as planned but for Marpha! The didi from the Thinigaon lodge had said it was a 3-hour walk. The first part of this stage is attractive, the mountains are magnificent and imposing, the landscape is superb, there’s no one around, a feeling of being "alone in the world." We follow Dhumbra Tal, this small green lake. The path is a rocky track that climbs steeply. Then, around a hill, we start the big descent that joins the Kali Gandaki. We face the wind head-on, and the violent gusts take our breath away, throw us off balance, and envelop us in dust. We see the road on the other side of the Kali Gandaki. We arrive in the village of Chhairo at 2 PM, completely exhausted and with blistered feet, after 5 hours of walking instead of the planned 3.5 hours.
We’re welcomed by the village nurse, who tells us there’s a lodge in the village. Chhairo is a Tibetan village, a 20-minute walk from Marpha (according to the locals, multiply by 2 or even 3 for us…). We’re going to revise our trek plan and, first of all, spend the night in Chhairo.
The lodge is quite pleasant, and Karma, the hostess, is very friendly. She asks about our plans and suggests we stay in Chhairo the next day, from where we can visit Marpha and also Chimang, a 1-hour walk away, in light mode, meaning without backpacks. She invites us to participate in a village ceremony the next evening.
We immediately accept the proposal, as our feet need rest and the welcome is so warm… Dinner and bed!
We reworked our trek plan, which was too ambitious for our untrained bodies and, let’s face it… no longer in our first youth. In the initial plan, we thought there wouldn’t be too much elevation gain following the Kali Gandaki, but checking the map, we realize there might be significant elevation changes between Sauru and Sirkung. So we plan:
· Tomorrow: visit Marpha (2670m) and Chimang (2744m) · April 3: bus from Chhairo (2700m) to Kalopani (2530m) and continue on foot to Ghasa (2010m) · April 4: Ghasa/Pairataplo (1940m) · April 5: Pairatapla/Gadpar (1580m) · April 6: Gadpar/Narchyang (1510m) · April 7: Narchyang/Tatopani (1190m) · April 8: return to Pokhara.
Normally, it’s all downhill…
April 2, a rest day then… We set off in the morning to explore Marpha. We have to take a temporary bridge because the suspension bridge is closed due to road construction. We join the road and arrive in Marpha, a village famous for its apple orchards, brandy, cider, and apple juice production. This village is magnificent with its stone houses and monastery clinging to the hillside. The road construction spared it. There are people, but very few Western tourists.
We have lunch in Marpha and go back through Chhairo to take the path to Chimang. We cross a fragrant pine forest and find the rocky path; the landscape is splendid. We walk quietly, passing peaceful buffaloes and cows, and arrive at the foot of a stone staircase… 275 steps (which we counted on the way back) leading us to the village of Chimang. Chimang is an isolated Newari village that seems a bit desolate. Despite the slopes, there are crops on every little bit of land. Thankfully, we changed our initial program because there’s no lodge in this village, contrary to what we saw on a map… We wander through the village, which seems very deserted, have coffee in a house from another world, and then head back to Chhairo.
A rest day? = 5 hours of walking!!
Dinner and village ceremony. From what we understand, this ceremony is in honor of the Dalai Lama. Men, women, and children in traditional costumes gather twice a month; they dance, make, and offer small sweet cakes with Tibetan tea (made from tea, yak butter—often rancid—water, and salt). Surprising for first-timers…
Around 10 PM, we leave the ceremony; tomorrow morning, we need to be on the roadside by 7 AM to catch the bus to Kalopani…
This village of Chhairo is very pleasant and welcoming, no tourists, just two motorcyclists who arrived in the evening, one of whom participated in the ceremony and discreetly poured his Tibetan tea outside.
Lodge: "Norsang Tibetan Guesthouse and Restaurant". Total bill for 2 nights, 2 dinners, 2 breakfasts, and drinks = 8000 NPR.
April 3: bus from Chhairo to Kalopani, about 1.5 hours for the 20 km (200 NPR per person). We descend on the right bank of the Kali Gandaki. We find the red and white markings to resume the trek toward Ghasa. We’re in a fragrant pine forest, the Dhaulagiri on one side and the Annapurnas on the other, magnificent, and the path is pleasant and easy. We get a bit lost in this forest, always looking for the markings. Near Lete, two trekkers pass us, and we meet them again a little further on with two very young children, to whom we give the 2 hard-boiled eggs I didn’t eat this morning. They accepted them without hesitation.
We arrive in a village and ask for directions to Ghasa. The young girls point the way. But we come across a forest being logged, trees cut in all directions. We turn back and ask for confirmation. They confirm… But the two young girls catch up with us and clear the way. We have to step over, go around, and cross the felled trees, with no indication at all. Through this pick-up sticks of felled trees, the girls lead us to the top of a stone staircase, indicating that was the path. It’s the only place where we saw rhododendrons in bloom.
We descend the staircase. At the bottom, to the left, there’s a bridge to go toward Choyo, and to the right, a path to Ghasa. We take the right path and join the road. We should normally find the red and white markings, but we don’t… So we continue on the western bank road of the Kali Gandaki.
A little before the village of Misi, we see fumaroles on the opposite bank that seem to come from the ground. We don’t understand. We stopped to eat in the village of Misi (noodle soup = 600 NPR), but it’s hard to communicate with the elderly people running the guesthouse.
We continued on the road, not finding the marked path parallel to the road. Landslides, both on the left and right banks, seem to have taken over the marked routes. It’s a place where the Kali Gandaki gorge narrows, and on the opposite bank, the mountain smokes more and more, and we now hear the crackling of fire. Across from us, the mountain is burning… Our initial plan had us passing on that burning bank right now…
We arrive in Ghasa at 3:30 PM, a 6.5-hour stage but with a 1-hour stop at noon. We’re at the "Florida Guesthouse and Restaurant." From our room, we see the mountain smoking on the other side of the river, and at night, we see the flames. In this village, posters show Himalayan eagles and vultures that seem to be protected species. Indeed, we saw (and heard) 3 eagles circling today.
April 4 – Today, heading to Pairothapla or Kopchepani depending on our feet, accommodation options, and simply our desires.
No more smoke on the mountain this morning. It’s chilly, 7:45 AM, the sky is clear, just a smell of smoke outside.
Price of the lodge = 1000 NPR for the night + 3580 NPR for meals.
We cross Ghasa, which stretches over more than a kilometer. We have a drink at the last guesthouse in the village, and the didi, when she learns our destination, tells us to be careful because the villages we’re going to aren’t safe. Should we distribute our rupees in different pockets? Nah, we kept going.
At the exit of Ghasa, we find the red and white markings and take the suspension bridge to cross the boiling waters of the Kali Gandaki. The passage is impressive because the river is tumultuous. Lots of climbs and even more descents. We’re back on the eastern bank. It’s hot! On the narrow path, we meet a group of buffaloes. Who has the right of way? We decide to stick as close as possible to the rock wall and move forward calmly. The buffaloes look at us, chewing placidly, with no intention of jumping on us. Phew!
After a 5-hour stage (including stops), we arrive in Pairothapla, with hot feet and firm thighs, and decide we won’t go any further. It’s a good thing because there’s a lodge, the most basic so far, but with a great welcome. We have a meal and a short nap. The buffaloes we met on the way belong to this house. They come to drink at the fountain by the path.
Our host, very pleasant, doesn’t know what to do to please us and is very attentive. He wants to chat. He has two children, a 4-year-old girl and a 7-year-old boy. Where do they go to school? Do they go? He tells us that the fires in the mountain are caused by people, but for what reason? We won’t find out, but it’s illegal. From here, we can still see smoke rising in the distance. The wife is a bit less friendly. Corn kernels dry on a woven straw mat on the ground, and the mom sorts them.
From where we are, we overlook the valley and see the road under construction winding along the mountainside on the other bank.
Dinner on the terrace of the house overlooking the path, windbreaker and fleece on: dal bhat chicken for me and chicken curry for my husband: "organic" products, at least local production. There are small vegetable gardens everywhere with all sorts of vegetables.
April 5 – While we’re having breakfast on the terrace of our lodge, 5 porters, straps on their foreheads, heavily loaded, pass by on the path. A few minutes later, a group of 9 people appears. It must be said that since the beginning of our journey, we’ve met very few hikers. Two backpackers in Chhairo, the two hikers near Lete, two female hikers passed us before Pairothapla, a solo female hiker passed us…
The lodge in Pairothapla is called "Bimala Lodge & Thakali Kitchen" – Price for night + 4 meals + 2 breakfasts = 3000 NPR.
The descent toward the Kali Gandaki involves climbs whose steps we didn’t count. Clearly, the landslides on the mountain cause changes to the official ACAP trek marked in red and white, and the marking updates can’t keep up with the pace of these landslides. It’s almost always by chance that we find the markings. Fortunately, we can follow the power line that guides us somewhat.
Drink stop in Kopchepani, the legs are fine, but the feet don’t like being tightly enclosed. A group of trekkers with porters passes on the path. We met buffaloes that we kindly let pass; the path was wide enough, but it was a staircase going up, and we didn’t want to take any risks.
Across, a view of the magnificent Rupse Waterfall on the other bank of the Kali Gandaki, at the bottom, lots of vehicles and people.
Arrival in Gadpar after crossing a rather unwelcoming small village and cultivated gardens between dry stone walls, each better built than the last.
First lodge spotted, first lodge adopted to answer the call of our feet, and a very warm welcome from the owner. Since we hadn’t eaten at noon, we had Tibetan bread/jam. 6-hour stage including 1 hour of stops. Night + dinner + breakfast + drinks = 5060 NPR
April 6 – Today, heading to Narchyang.
For several days, we’ve seen banana trees with their bunches of fruit and even a prickly pear with large fruits ripening.
This stage is quite peaceful and pleasant. We take a suspension bridge to cross a tributary of the Kali Gandaki. While we’re resting for a moment before crossing the bridge, a couple of porters, a man and a woman, arrive and start across the bridge with their wood load in a basket held by a strap on their forehead, making them bend. We set off too… lighter than them.
On the other side of the bridge… a stone staircase, and it climbs steeply. The porter couple didn’t take this staircase; they went right on the path.
At the top of the staircase, we arrive in Narchyang after a 4-hour stage. A magnificent waterfall overlooks the village. We get lost in this fairly large village looking for a lodge. After wandering around for a while, we ask for directions, and an 84-year-old man takes us through the whole village and accompanies us to a very nice lodge run by a woman.
We chat with our hostess, who asks where we’re from and where we’re going. We explain that we want to reach Tatopani the next day and then return to Pokhara. She tells us there are 4x4s going directly to Pokhara and that it would probably be easier than taking a bus that might be full in Tatopani. After a quick consultation, we decide to return to Pokhara the next day by 4x4. She finds us a 4x4 with 2 seats left, departure at 8 AM – 5 hours on the road and 1500 NPR per person. A charming didi who does everything to be pleasant and helpful.
Narchyang community lodge = night + snacks + dinner + breakfast = 3000 NPR.
There you go, our trek ends tomorrow. Many necessary changes and adaptations to our initial trek, but no regrets, it was superb and a great experience that, for my part, I won’t be able to repeat. Always this encounter with the endearing, welcoming, curious, and very kind Nepali people. It was now or never, and we did it!
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In conclusion, 3 full weeks in Nepal is a duration that allows visiting Kathmandu, Patan, and Bhaktapur, enjoying the various sites, and soaking in the atmosphere and urban Nepali life.
The trek, even revised and corrected, allowed us to get close to the impressive Annapurna and Dhaulagiri peaks. One or two acclimatization days might be necessary to get the body in tune with this magical and extraordinary land.
Stay from March 25 to April 16, 2025
· Flight tickets Air India (via Delhi) (via Skyscanner) = 1130 € per person · Planned budget (and respected without too many restrictions and while buying a few small gifts) = 2000 € for the stay for two. Buses, taxis, and entrance fees to various sites represent a budget to consider. Meals are cheap. Drinks like beer/Coke, however, are not cheap and cost the equivalent of a meal. · Exchange rate of the rupee during our stay = 0.0064 € (the exchange rate is almost identical everywhere, including at the airport). · At the airport, purchase of two SIM cards (phone) = 1000 NPR x 2 for 28 days. · Kathmandu: we had booked the hotel upon arrival: Kathmandu Boutique Hotel (+977 015 357 446 – email: booking@kathmanduboutiquehotel.com), very well located in a quiet alley off the street, south of Thamel, a 10-minute walk from Durbar Square. A hotel like Nepal knows how to do, where tall people will have to duck. Night + breakfast = 18 € for two. Very warm welcome, great location, excellent value for money. · Bhaktapur: we had also booked a hotel for the end of our stay because the chance of the year 2025 made the Nepali New Year and Bisket Jatra particularly festive in Bhaktapur: Manju Baha Hotel School (+977 976 7234014 – email: manjubahahotel@gmail.com) located in an old monastery. "A social enterprise transforming an old monastery into a charming hotel, offering professional hospitality training to underprivileged Nepali youth." Night + breakfast = 32 € for two. Beautifully decorated room. Very warm welcome. Don’t miss the Changunarayan site (near Bhaktapur), it’s amazing. And if you’re lucky enough to be in Bhaktapur in mid-April for 3 days, there’s the Bisket Jatra festivities (Newari festival), joyful, noisy, fun, and wild… · Pokhara (hotel recommended by the Kathmandu hotel): Hotel Green Tara, Lakeside, 10th street, set back, quiet (Tel. +977 61 462698 – email: greentara_67@hotmail.com) · Trek permit (Lower Mustang, no need for an agency or guide, permits checked at Ghasa and Jomsom) = 2000 NPR per person (2 ID photos) · Bus Kathmandu/Pokhara and return = 2000 NPR per person · Bus Pokhara/Jomsom, 2 one-way tickets = 2800 NPR. · Taxi: negotiation with a driver we recommend, Vicky (+977 984 075 599). You explain what you want, negotiate the price, and he waits for you during the visit. Very charming, we used him several times. For example: departure from our hotel at 10 AM -> Boudhanath/Pashupatinath/Patan return at 5 PM to the hotel = 6500 NPR – Swayambhunath (round trip) = 1200 NPR · Site prices: https://ntb.gov.np/plan-your-trip/before-you-come/heritage-site-entry-fees o Visitor Pass for Kathmandu Durbar Square (for the duration of the stay, show your visa) = 1000 NPR per person (1 ID photo) o Bhaktapur Durbar Square (old town) = 1800 NPR per person o Patan = 1000 NPR per person o Swayambhu Stupa = 200 NPR per person o Boudha Stupa = 200 NPR per person o Pashupatinath Temple = 1000 NPR per person (interesting to take a guide) o Changunarayan Temple (6 km north of Bhaktapur) = 400 NPR per person o Mountain Museum in Pokhara = 750 NPR per person · E-cigarettes: e-cigarettes are banned in India and confiscated whether they’re in carry-on or checked luggage. On the way there, we had kept them in our carry-on, they were confiscated in Delhi. On the way back, learning from our previous experience, we put them in our checked luggage. Someone came to get us to take them out of our bags and confiscate them… You can find e-cigarettes and products in Kathmandu.
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I’m 74 years old. I went to Nepal in 1982, 1983, and the last time in 1986. I wanted to introduce this beautiful and endearing country to my husband, and it was… now or never. So we decided it was now.
I knew the trek starting from Pokhara: Naudanda/Birethanti/Ghorepani/Tatopani/Kalopani. There was no way I was going to do that trek, especially the 1000-meter staircase to reach Ghorepani… You have to stay humble with age.
Back then, the road didn’t exist. I didn’t consider, with the construction of this road (NH48) along the western bank of the Kali Gandaki, doing a trek along a windy and dusty road. Was there an alternative hiking trail on the eastern bank? No one answered my question on VoyageForum, so I did my research online. And I found this site: "Andrées de Ruiter and Prem Rai - Trekking the Annapurna Circuit, including the new NATT trails that avoid the road - A guide to one of the most beautiful trekking regions in Nepal and the world (2011) - NATT = New Annapurna Trekking Trail".
Phew! A solution was emerging. This circuit from 2011 wasn’t fully marked. The idea was to go from Jomsom to Tatopani, so we needed to make sure the path was well-marked all the way, which we did, and the path exists, marked in red and white!
So, with the walking times information, we built our 8-day circuit:
· Jomsom/Thinigaon · Thinigaon/Chimang · Chimang/Saura · Saura/Kokhetanti · Rest day or, if in good shape: loop to Sekong Lake · Kokhetanti/Jhipra Deurali · Jhipra Deurali/Kopchepani · Kopchepani/Tatopani
It’s a senior trek, after all. So the walking times noted on the sites indicated 3 hours or even 4 hours for the two longest stages. That pace suited us fine.
On March 29, we left Kathmandu (1400m), after visiting the must-see sites, by bus to Pokhara: 200 km and 8.5 hours on a chaotic road under construction. I had a memory of Pokhara where it was the first city where you could see the Himalayan range, especially Machhapuchhare. But the pollution is such, the dust raised by traffic and construction, that no horizon is visible except the first hills around Pokhara.
We stayed 24 hours in Pokhara (820m), and on March 31, we left our luggage at the hotel and set off with our lightest backpacks: change of clothes, toiletries, first aid kit, anti-chafing cream, water bottle, sleeping bag liner, and light shoes for the stages.
We took the bus to Jomsom: 160 km/7.5 hours including stops for bathroom breaks, tea, and lunch. The road is nothing but a chaos of potholes, landslides, construction, dust, rebuilding, and mudslides. In Ghasa, the bus stops, and we’re told we’re at a checkpoint and that the two foreigners in the bus, my husband and I, need to have our permits checked, which takes a few minutes. The driving is rock-and-roll, surprising, and courteous. The drivers have their codes, and on these improbable roads, they’re virtuosos.
We could have chosen the plane, but several reasons dissuaded us: if there’s too much wind, the planes don’t take off; personally, I wasn’t reassured about landing in Jomsom, and this transport has a cost.
We arrived around 2 PM in Jomsom (2720m), and despite the early wake-up, the nearly 8 hours on the bus, and the altitude, we decided to head straight to Thinigaon (2840m). At the Jomsom checkpoint, they told us it was a 30-minute walk. Great! Except we took an hour and a half on an uphill road, bent over to fight a strong wind. But the Himalayan range is there! The Dhaulagiri, the Nilgiri, the Annapurnas as a reward.
In Thinigaon, we found a room at the "Nilgiri View Hotel" run by a didi (big sister in Nepali). From the lodge’s roof, she proudly showed us the different peaks surrounding the village and told us, worried, that it hadn’t snowed here for 3 years. She said there are very few tourists, that the season is rather in September/October/November. It seems there’s not a soul in this village, yet mules pass through the narrow street paved with large flat stones, their bells ringing. We dine at 6 PM and go to bed… Room = 1200 NPR and dinner, breakfast, and drinks = 2560 NPR.
On April 1, we set off at 9 AM, not for Chimang as planned but for Marpha! The didi from the Thinigaon lodge had said it was a 3-hour walk. The first part of this stage is attractive, the mountains are magnificent and imposing, the landscape is superb, there’s no one around, a feeling of being "alone in the world." We follow Dhumbra Tal, this small green lake. The path is a rocky track that climbs steeply. Then, around a hill, we start the big descent that joins the Kali Gandaki. We face the wind head-on, and the violent gusts take our breath away, throw us off balance, and envelop us in dust. We see the road on the other side of the Kali Gandaki. We arrive in the village of Chhairo at 2 PM, completely exhausted and with blistered feet, after 5 hours of walking instead of the planned 3.5 hours.
We’re welcomed by the village nurse, who tells us there’s a lodge in the village. Chhairo is a Tibetan village, a 20-minute walk from Marpha (according to the locals, multiply by 2 or even 3 for us…). We’re going to revise our trek plan and, first of all, spend the night in Chhairo.
The lodge is quite pleasant, and Karma, the hostess, is very friendly. She asks about our plans and suggests we stay in Chhairo the next day, from where we can visit Marpha and also Chimang, a 1-hour walk away, in light mode, meaning without backpacks. She invites us to participate in a village ceremony the next evening.
We immediately accept the proposal, as our feet need rest and the welcome is so warm… Dinner and bed!
We reworked our trek plan, which was too ambitious for our untrained bodies and, let’s face it… no longer in our first youth. In the initial plan, we thought there wouldn’t be too much elevation gain following the Kali Gandaki, but checking the map, we realize there might be significant elevation changes between Sauru and Sirkung. So we plan:
· Tomorrow: visit Marpha (2670m) and Chimang (2744m) · April 3: bus from Chhairo (2700m) to Kalopani (2530m) and continue on foot to Ghasa (2010m) · April 4: Ghasa/Pairataplo (1940m) · April 5: Pairatapla/Gadpar (1580m) · April 6: Gadpar/Narchyang (1510m) · April 7: Narchyang/Tatopani (1190m) · April 8: return to Pokhara.
Normally, it’s all downhill…
April 2, a rest day then… We set off in the morning to explore Marpha. We have to take a temporary bridge because the suspension bridge is closed due to road construction. We join the road and arrive in Marpha, a village famous for its apple orchards, brandy, cider, and apple juice production. This village is magnificent with its stone houses and monastery clinging to the hillside. The road construction spared it. There are people, but very few Western tourists.
We have lunch in Marpha and go back through Chhairo to take the path to Chimang. We cross a fragrant pine forest and find the rocky path; the landscape is splendid. We walk quietly, passing peaceful buffaloes and cows, and arrive at the foot of a stone staircase… 275 steps (which we counted on the way back) leading us to the village of Chimang. Chimang is an isolated Newari village that seems a bit desolate. Despite the slopes, there are crops on every little bit of land. Thankfully, we changed our initial program because there’s no lodge in this village, contrary to what we saw on a map… We wander through the village, which seems very deserted, have coffee in a house from another world, and then head back to Chhairo.
A rest day? = 5 hours of walking!!
Dinner and village ceremony. From what we understand, this ceremony is in honor of the Dalai Lama. Men, women, and children in traditional costumes gather twice a month; they dance, make, and offer small sweet cakes with Tibetan tea (made from tea, yak butter—often rancid—water, and salt). Surprising for first-timers…
Around 10 PM, we leave the ceremony; tomorrow morning, we need to be on the roadside by 7 AM to catch the bus to Kalopani…
This village of Chhairo is very pleasant and welcoming, no tourists, just two motorcyclists who arrived in the evening, one of whom participated in the ceremony and discreetly poured his Tibetan tea outside.
Lodge: "Norsang Tibetan Guesthouse and Restaurant". Total bill for 2 nights, 2 dinners, 2 breakfasts, and drinks = 8000 NPR.
April 3: bus from Chhairo to Kalopani, about 1.5 hours for the 20 km (200 NPR per person). We descend on the right bank of the Kali Gandaki. We find the red and white markings to resume the trek toward Ghasa. We’re in a fragrant pine forest, the Dhaulagiri on one side and the Annapurnas on the other, magnificent, and the path is pleasant and easy. We get a bit lost in this forest, always looking for the markings. Near Lete, two trekkers pass us, and we meet them again a little further on with two very young children, to whom we give the 2 hard-boiled eggs I didn’t eat this morning. They accepted them without hesitation.
We arrive in a village and ask for directions to Ghasa. The young girls point the way. But we come across a forest being logged, trees cut in all directions. We turn back and ask for confirmation. They confirm… But the two young girls catch up with us and clear the way. We have to step over, go around, and cross the felled trees, with no indication at all. Through this pick-up sticks of felled trees, the girls lead us to the top of a stone staircase, indicating that was the path. It’s the only place where we saw rhododendrons in bloom.
We descend the staircase. At the bottom, to the left, there’s a bridge to go toward Choyo, and to the right, a path to Ghasa. We take the right path and join the road. We should normally find the red and white markings, but we don’t… So we continue on the western bank road of the Kali Gandaki.
A little before the village of Misi, we see fumaroles on the opposite bank that seem to come from the ground. We don’t understand. We stopped to eat in the village of Misi (noodle soup = 600 NPR), but it’s hard to communicate with the elderly people running the guesthouse.
We continued on the road, not finding the marked path parallel to the road. Landslides, both on the left and right banks, seem to have taken over the marked routes. It’s a place where the Kali Gandaki gorge narrows, and on the opposite bank, the mountain smokes more and more, and we now hear the crackling of fire. Across from us, the mountain is burning… Our initial plan had us passing on that burning bank right now…
We arrive in Ghasa at 3:30 PM, a 6.5-hour stage but with a 1-hour stop at noon. We’re at the "Florida Guesthouse and Restaurant." From our room, we see the mountain smoking on the other side of the river, and at night, we see the flames. In this village, posters show Himalayan eagles and vultures that seem to be protected species. Indeed, we saw (and heard) 3 eagles circling today.
April 4 – Today, heading to Pairothapla or Kopchepani depending on our feet, accommodation options, and simply our desires.
No more smoke on the mountain this morning. It’s chilly, 7:45 AM, the sky is clear, just a smell of smoke outside.
Price of the lodge = 1000 NPR for the night + 3580 NPR for meals.
We cross Ghasa, which stretches over more than a kilometer. We have a drink at the last guesthouse in the village, and the didi, when she learns our destination, tells us to be careful because the villages we’re going to aren’t safe. Should we distribute our rupees in different pockets? Nah, we kept going.
At the exit of Ghasa, we find the red and white markings and take the suspension bridge to cross the boiling waters of the Kali Gandaki. The passage is impressive because the river is tumultuous. Lots of climbs and even more descents. We’re back on the eastern bank. It’s hot! On the narrow path, we meet a group of buffaloes. Who has the right of way? We decide to stick as close as possible to the rock wall and move forward calmly. The buffaloes look at us, chewing placidly, with no intention of jumping on us. Phew!
After a 5-hour stage (including stops), we arrive in Pairothapla, with hot feet and firm thighs, and decide we won’t go any further. It’s a good thing because there’s a lodge, the most basic so far, but with a great welcome. We have a meal and a short nap. The buffaloes we met on the way belong to this house. They come to drink at the fountain by the path.
Our host, very pleasant, doesn’t know what to do to please us and is very attentive. He wants to chat. He has two children, a 4-year-old girl and a 7-year-old boy. Where do they go to school? Do they go? He tells us that the fires in the mountain are caused by people, but for what reason? We won’t find out, but it’s illegal. From here, we can still see smoke rising in the distance. The wife is a bit less friendly. Corn kernels dry on a woven straw mat on the ground, and the mom sorts them.
From where we are, we overlook the valley and see the road under construction winding along the mountainside on the other bank.
Dinner on the terrace of the house overlooking the path, windbreaker and fleece on: dal bhat chicken for me and chicken curry for my husband: "organic" products, at least local production. There are small vegetable gardens everywhere with all sorts of vegetables.
April 5 – While we’re having breakfast on the terrace of our lodge, 5 porters, straps on their foreheads, heavily loaded, pass by on the path. A few minutes later, a group of 9 people appears. It must be said that since the beginning of our journey, we’ve met very few hikers. Two backpackers in Chhairo, the two hikers near Lete, two female hikers passed us before Pairothapla, a solo female hiker passed us…
The lodge in Pairothapla is called "Bimala Lodge & Thakali Kitchen" – Price for night + 4 meals + 2 breakfasts = 3000 NPR.
The descent toward the Kali Gandaki involves climbs whose steps we didn’t count. Clearly, the landslides on the mountain cause changes to the official ACAP trek marked in red and white, and the marking updates can’t keep up with the pace of these landslides. It’s almost always by chance that we find the markings. Fortunately, we can follow the power line that guides us somewhat.
Drink stop in Kopchepani, the legs are fine, but the feet don’t like being tightly enclosed. A group of trekkers with porters passes on the path. We met buffaloes that we kindly let pass; the path was wide enough, but it was a staircase going up, and we didn’t want to take any risks.
Across, a view of the magnificent Rupse Waterfall on the other bank of the Kali Gandaki, at the bottom, lots of vehicles and people.
Arrival in Gadpar after crossing a rather unwelcoming small village and cultivated gardens between dry stone walls, each better built than the last.
First lodge spotted, first lodge adopted to answer the call of our feet, and a very warm welcome from the owner. Since we hadn’t eaten at noon, we had Tibetan bread/jam. 6-hour stage including 1 hour of stops. Night + dinner + breakfast + drinks = 5060 NPR
April 6 – Today, heading to Narchyang.
For several days, we’ve seen banana trees with their bunches of fruit and even a prickly pear with large fruits ripening.
This stage is quite peaceful and pleasant. We take a suspension bridge to cross a tributary of the Kali Gandaki. While we’re resting for a moment before crossing the bridge, a couple of porters, a man and a woman, arrive and start across the bridge with their wood load in a basket held by a strap on their forehead, making them bend. We set off too… lighter than them.
On the other side of the bridge… a stone staircase, and it climbs steeply. The porter couple didn’t take this staircase; they went right on the path.
At the top of the staircase, we arrive in Narchyang after a 4-hour stage. A magnificent waterfall overlooks the village. We get lost in this fairly large village looking for a lodge. After wandering around for a while, we ask for directions, and an 84-year-old man takes us through the whole village and accompanies us to a very nice lodge run by a woman.
We chat with our hostess, who asks where we’re from and where we’re going. We explain that we want to reach Tatopani the next day and then return to Pokhara. She tells us there are 4x4s going directly to Pokhara and that it would probably be easier than taking a bus that might be full in Tatopani. After a quick consultation, we decide to return to Pokhara the next day by 4x4. She finds us a 4x4 with 2 seats left, departure at 8 AM – 5 hours on the road and 1500 NPR per person. A charming didi who does everything to be pleasant and helpful.
Narchyang community lodge = night + snacks + dinner + breakfast = 3000 NPR.
There you go, our trek ends tomorrow. Many necessary changes and adaptations to our initial trek, but no regrets, it was superb and a great experience that, for my part, I won’t be able to repeat. Always this encounter with the endearing, welcoming, curious, and very kind Nepali people. It was now or never, and we did it!
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In conclusion, 3 full weeks in Nepal is a duration that allows visiting Kathmandu, Patan, and Bhaktapur, enjoying the various sites, and soaking in the atmosphere and urban Nepali life.
The trek, even revised and corrected, allowed us to get close to the impressive Annapurna and Dhaulagiri peaks. One or two acclimatization days might be necessary to get the body in tune with this magical and extraordinary land.
Hi there,
My partner and I are heading to Nepal for 15 days in March—she’s a schoolteacher. We’ll be trekking to Everest Base Camp and then doing the loop via the Gokyo Lakes.
We’d love to set up a fundraiser to donate to a school in Namche, along with visiting the school. It’s something that really matters to us. But it’s been tough to get in touch with a school—any ideas on how to go about this? Thanks!
My partner and I are heading to Nepal for 15 days in March—she’s a schoolteacher. We’ll be trekking to Everest Base Camp and then doing the loop via the Gokyo Lakes.
We’d love to set up a fundraiser to donate to a school in Namche, along with visiting the school. It’s something that really matters to us. But it’s been tough to get in touch with a school—any ideas on how to go about this? Thanks!
Hello my fellow globetrotters, could anyone tell me how to find the French colonial cemetery in Pondicherry? It seems tricky to locate.
Thanks so much for your help! Take care, pace yourselves, and travel far.
Cheers, Régine
Thanks so much for your help! Take care, pace yourselves, and travel far.
Cheers, Régine
I'm looking for a small, not-too-touristy restaurant in Fort Kochi. Do you know one not too far from Jacob Road?
Thanks
Bonjour,
Nous nous apprêtons ma femme et moi pour ce circuit du 27 mars au 8 avril.
J'aimerai savoir si quelqu'un est déjà parti avec l'agence Salaun Holidays? combien de personnes en moyenne par groupe ? combien en liquidités ?
Nous avons des doutes sur les vêtements à prendre.....+ draps et taies ?
Et si vous avez des petits tuyaux pour ne pas être trop ennuyé par les mendiants et démarcheurs.
Vos remarques seront toujours bonnes à prendre.
Merci à l'avance.
Bonjour,
je voudrais faire un voyage au Rajasthan et la vallée du Gange: c'est la première fois que je ferais un voyage lointain et pense le faire avec l'agence BTtours à partir de la Belgique (ou Salaün en France). Quelqu'un a-t-il déjà voyagé avec cette agence et peut-il me donner son avis? Je pensais partir vers le mois de novembre, mais certains me disent que, même là, il ferait relativement froid (8°C) est-ce possible?
D'autre part, quelle est le meilleur moyen pour se procurer de l'argent? Peut-on entrer en Inde avec de l'argent liquide sur soi?
Merci pour les réponses.
bonjour à tous,
Je prépare un voyage en Inde du Nord (Rajasthan, vallée du Gange avec Varanasi (Benares)).
Mon agence de voyage me propose deux TO, Asia avec le circuit "Saris et Saddhus" et Salaun avec le circuit "l'inde du nord et la vallée du Gange". J'ai déjà voyagé au Sri Lanka et en Inde du Sud avec Asia. Les voyages se sont très bien passés.
Je ne connais pas Salaun Holidays. Leur circuit semble plus complet avec une journée de détente (16 jours sur place) . Voyage avec Air France.
Est ce qu'un de membre de ce forum a fait le circuit "l'inde du Nord et la vallée du Gange" avec Salaun? Puis je avoir votre avis sur le TO Salaun Holidays?
Merci beaucoup
Je prépare un voyage en Inde du Nord (Rajasthan, vallée du Gange avec Varanasi (Benares)).
Mon agence de voyage me propose deux TO, Asia avec le circuit "Saris et Saddhus" et Salaun avec le circuit "l'inde du nord et la vallée du Gange". J'ai déjà voyagé au Sri Lanka et en Inde du Sud avec Asia. Les voyages se sont très bien passés.
Je ne connais pas Salaun Holidays. Leur circuit semble plus complet avec une journée de détente (16 jours sur place) . Voyage avec Air France.
Est ce qu'un de membre de ce forum a fait le circuit "l'inde du Nord et la vallée du Gange" avec Salaun? Puis je avoir votre avis sur le TO Salaun Holidays?
Merci beaucoup
Hi there.
We’re heading to India at the end of December for a month.
I planned an itinerary: Delhi, Nawalgarh, Sikar, Jodhpur, Udaipur, Chittaurgarh, Bundi, Jaipur, Bharatpur, and back to Delhi.
Our driver told us it’s not possible because there are no roads.
He’s suggesting the usual tourist circuit, which we don’t want to do.
What do you think of my route?
Any tips?
Thanks, community!
Hello,
We’re a group of 4 looking for a driver and car for our stay in Kerala from November 22 to December 12, 2025. We’ve already planned an itinerary starting from Cochin.
We’ve traveled with a driver before during our trip to Rajasthan.
Thanks for your replies!
Yves
Hi everyone,
we’re heading to Tamil Nadu and Kerala at the start of the year for 30 days. We did Rajasthan 12 years ago, but things change fast.
I’ve read that to get a SIM card, you have to buy it at a shop and then go to the operator to get a number; you’d also need an Indian mobile number. Has anyone here had recent experience with this?
For buses and trains, do you need to book them well in advance?
Any tips are welcome—thanks in advance!
Happy holidays to all,
Philippe
Hi everyone! 🙂
My partner (who’s a teacher—hence the summer holidays) and I are heading to Eastern India for 23 days in July. This is my 5th trip to India, but her first.
We fly into Delhi on July 7th and leave from Delhi on the 23rd (since our flight to Kolkata arrived late at night, and I wanted to show Agra and Varanasi to my partner).
We love getting off the beaten track and meeting people, so we’ll mostly be taking the train.
Here’s what we’re planning:
- **DELHI**: 1 night on the way (short because the plane is supposed to land at 01:55), then we take the train at 13:00 - **GWALIOR**: 3 nights, including a day trip to **AGRA** by train to see the Taj Mahal and the Red Fort (I find Agra too touristy to stay overnight). Otherwise, in Gwalior, the Fort, the temples, the Man Mandir Palace, and the Jai Vilas Palace if we have time. - **ORCHHA**: 2 nights... *maybe skip this to spend more time in VARANASI?* - **VARANASI**: overnight train + 3 nights, the Ghats, temples... maybe a day trip to **SARNATH**. - **KOLKATA**: overnight train + 3 nights. Maybe a countryside excursion to the ashram in Channa. *- Here we’re hesitating over 2 nights: either 2 nights in **SHANTINIKETAN** with a visit to **CHANNA** on the way, or a 2-day excursion to the **SUNDARBAN** nature park. But is it worth it in July during the monsoon?* - **PURI**: overnight train + 4 nights. *We’re planning to do everything from Puri, as it seems nicer than staying in BHUBANESWAR. What do you think?* Visit **KONARK** and **CHILIKA LAKE**. *Is it worth visiting Chilika Lake this season? Another question: can you swim in Puri, or is it too dangerous (waves)?* - Train to **BHUBANESWAR**, then a flight from BHUBANESWAR to **DELHI**, - 2 nights in **DELHI**, visiting Jama Masjid, and *either Humayun’s Tomb, Safdarjung’s Tomb, or Qutb Minar.*
Back to Paris. Total: 23 nights.
What do you think of these choices? What about the options we’re still unsure about *(in bold/italics)*? Thanks so much! 🙂
We fly into Delhi on July 7th and leave from Delhi on the 23rd (since our flight to Kolkata arrived late at night, and I wanted to show Agra and Varanasi to my partner).
We love getting off the beaten track and meeting people, so we’ll mostly be taking the train.
Here’s what we’re planning:
- **DELHI**: 1 night on the way (short because the plane is supposed to land at 01:55), then we take the train at 13:00 - **GWALIOR**: 3 nights, including a day trip to **AGRA** by train to see the Taj Mahal and the Red Fort (I find Agra too touristy to stay overnight). Otherwise, in Gwalior, the Fort, the temples, the Man Mandir Palace, and the Jai Vilas Palace if we have time. - **ORCHHA**: 2 nights... *maybe skip this to spend more time in VARANASI?* - **VARANASI**: overnight train + 3 nights, the Ghats, temples... maybe a day trip to **SARNATH**. - **KOLKATA**: overnight train + 3 nights. Maybe a countryside excursion to the ashram in Channa. *- Here we’re hesitating over 2 nights: either 2 nights in **SHANTINIKETAN** with a visit to **CHANNA** on the way, or a 2-day excursion to the **SUNDARBAN** nature park. But is it worth it in July during the monsoon?* - **PURI**: overnight train + 4 nights. *We’re planning to do everything from Puri, as it seems nicer than staying in BHUBANESWAR. What do you think?* Visit **KONARK** and **CHILIKA LAKE**. *Is it worth visiting Chilika Lake this season? Another question: can you swim in Puri, or is it too dangerous (waves)?* - Train to **BHUBANESWAR**, then a flight from BHUBANESWAR to **DELHI**, - 2 nights in **DELHI**, visiting Jama Masjid, and *either Humayun’s Tomb, Safdarjung’s Tomb, or Qutb Minar.*
Back to Paris. Total: 23 nights.
What do you think of these choices? What about the options we’re still unsure about *(in bold/italics)*? Thanks so much! 🙂
hi everyone, I’m putting together an itinerary for Sri Lanka in September 2026, so I’m focusing on the east side of the island because of the monsoon on the west coast:
Day 1 Kandy: botanical garden, fruit and vegetable market, traditional dance show
Day 2 Kandy-Ella train
Day 3-4 Kumana NP or Lunugamvehera Block 6+5
Day 5-6 Komari / Pottuvi lagoon safari
Day 7 head up the east coast along the beaches to reach Wasgamuwa NP
Day 8 Wasgamuwa NP early morning safari, then Polonnaruwa (temple and palace)
Day 9-10 Sigiriya Lion’s Rock and Dambulla, cave temple
Day 11-12 Wilpattu NP early morning safari, then late afternoon
Day 13-14 Kalpitiya, snorkeling and chilling
Day 15 return to Colombo
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on whether this route is doable—we’ll be traveling with a driver-guide.
Feel free to mention any great tips or good homestay experiences you’ve had, since we prefer those.
Hi everyone, Kerala experts (especially Marien!)
In January, I’m planning another trip to Kerala. We’ll arrive in Kochi and travel up the coast by train to Gokarna.
So I’m reaching out to ask if it’s worth stopping for a few days in any of the following spots (not all, of course—just one or two that are really worth it...). From what I’ve seen, few Western tourists stop along this coast, given how little info there is about it:
Mahe, Thalassery, Taliparamba, Nileshwar, Bekal, Kasaragod
I’m not mentioning Kannur because we’ve already been there, specifically Thottada Beach, and we’re familiar with the southern destinations (Trivandrum, Kovalam, etc.).
Thanks for your replies!
Anne
Hello,
My husband and I usually spend a month in January/February in southern India. We end our trip in Gokarna and fly back from Vasco de Gama Airport in Dabolim. So, it might make sense to spend a few days in a nice, quiet spot in southern Goa. Do you have any recommendations?
Thanks
Hi there,
I’d like to head to Upper Dolpo in September/October 2026.
Does anyone know the current state of the roads in the area?
Specifically for getting from Saldang to Dho Tarap.
Also, what do you think about the weather between September 20th and October 20th?
Any tips would be much appreciated.
I’ve already checked out the info on Martinpierre’s site—it’s super detailed about the region, but the details are a bit outdated.
Thanks in advance for your advice.
Thierry








