Voyager au Maroc fin août (Ramadan) - début septembre 2011?
by Nanouchicago
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Je n ai pas le choix de mes dates -que pensez vous d aller au maroc a la fin du Ramadan et juste apres ?
Nanou
Bonjour,
Autant voyager pendant le Maroc peut être sympa car les soirées sont très animées, autant la semaine qui suit est morte. Beaucoup de Marocains retournent au bled pour voir la famille, et beaucoup de commerces ferment. Les transports sont aussi perturbés. J'éviterais cette semaine là, sauf si vous résidez au même endroit pendant tout votre séjour.
Autant voyager pendant le Maroc peut être sympa car les soirées sont très animées, autant la semaine qui suit est morte. Beaucoup de Marocains retournent au bled pour voir la famille, et beaucoup de commerces ferment. Les transports sont aussi perturbés. J'éviterais cette semaine là, sauf si vous résidez au même endroit pendant tout votre séjour.
" Nous ne saurons jamais tout le bien qu'un simple sourire peut être capable de faire."
Mère Teresa
* ** a la fin du Ramadan et juste apres ? ***
le "juste après", c'est ce qui se fait de pire !! Pendant 4 jours mini , et une semaine en moyenne , tout est désorganisé , les transports sont pris d'assaut, l'absentéisme , meme sauvage, est la plaie des hotels !! Si tu es en totale autonomie, voiture, logement, pas de souci !
La dernière semaine du Ramadan , elle , est absolument vivable.
le "juste après", c'est ce qui se fait de pire !! Pendant 4 jours mini , et une semaine en moyenne , tout est désorganisé , les transports sont pris d'assaut, l'absentéisme , meme sauvage, est la plaie des hotels !! Si tu es en totale autonomie, voiture, logement, pas de souci !
La dernière semaine du Ramadan , elle , est absolument vivable.
Sans vraiment faire exprés je suis toujours arrivée le jour de l'Aïd (celui de la fin du ramadan) et franchement j'aime bien !!!!! cela me permet une adaptation plus sereine à Marrakech ......... les souks plus calmes car moins de commerces ouverts, moins de monde effectivement en revanche je n'ai pas eu de soucis pour trouver change, resto etc etc (je loge en riad donc peut être moins de problèmes qu'en hotel). Voilà perso je n'ai pas été incommodée par cette fête.
Bonjour,
Oui si tu restes à Marrakech, tu trouves l'essentiel en tant que touriste. Mais quand tu habites ici, je peux te dire qu'il est difficile de se ravitailler dans la médina : ne serait-ce que les boucheries : toutes fermées la semaine suivante ! Et puis les touristes qui veulent circuler dans le pays au moyen des transports locaux, ont bien du mal à trouver !
Oui si tu restes à Marrakech, tu trouves l'essentiel en tant que touriste. Mais quand tu habites ici, je peux te dire qu'il est difficile de se ravitailler dans la médina : ne serait-ce que les boucheries : toutes fermées la semaine suivante ! Et puis les touristes qui veulent circuler dans le pays au moyen des transports locaux, ont bien du mal à trouver !
" Nous ne saurons jamais tout le bien qu'un simple sourire peut être capable de faire."
Mère Teresa
Autre question : les trains fonctionnent ils bien ? Est ce sur ? (femme voyageant seule)
Nanou
les trains , comme tous les transports au Maroc sont surs pour une femme seule !
Parfois, dragouille un peu lourdaude , mais qiui s'arrète au moindre hausement d'épaule ou rembarre polie.
Ils fonctionnent bien en général , avec une ponctualité supportable, sauf dans les 2 périodes chaudes, lendemain de l'Aid et fin du Ramadan! parfois pleins à craquer et pris d'assaut.
Ils fonctionnent bien en général , avec une ponctualité supportable, sauf dans les 2 périodes chaudes, lendemain de l'Aid et fin du Ramadan! parfois pleins à craquer et pris d'assaut.
Merci raoulx;
est il plutot conseiller alors de louer une voiture pendant le séjour ?
est il plutot conseiller alors de louer une voiture pendant le séjour ?
Nanou
bienvenue chez ns
J'ai voyagé l'année dernière pendant le ramadan, pas de problème. Il faut prévoir de faire les courses après 17 heures pour le matin et le déjeunr. Quant aux restaurants, il faut savoir se contenter de ce que l'on vous offre. En général, on vous propose de partager la fin du jeune, c'est à dire dates, petits gâteaux au miel, harira, tagine etc... de quoi ne pas mourir de fin....
Quant aux transports, j'ignore s'il y a des perturbations. En voiture, pas de problème au contraire, tout est plus calme, sauf le soir....
Salut nanouchicago,
Ta préoccupation est justifiée car je me suis retrouvé à faire un choix l'année dernière au moment ou je devrais poser mes valises dans le pays du jasmin, la Tunisie. Je suis arrivé 5 jours avant la fin du ramadan, juste pour comparer la période, avant et pendant le ramadan. J'avoue que l'on est un peu déphasé car toutes les boutiques sont fermées le matin pendant le ramadan mais n'empêche que les sites touristiques restent ouverts. Mais quelques restaurants des hypermarchés demeurent ouvert jusqu'à 11 h. Mais les nuits étaient vraiment spéciales, beaucoup plus animées et intéressantes.
Cependant, en lisant les avis des uns et des autres, il t'appartiendra de faire ton choix. Moi je dirai tu peux venir durant le mois de ramadan.Moi même j'ai pas encore des dates précises pour mon séjour sur le Maroc car j'ai aussi le Mali e ligne de mire . Si c'est confirmé et que les dates coincent c'est tant mieux. Sinon excellent séjour au Maroc.
Ta préoccupation est justifiée car je me suis retrouvé à faire un choix l'année dernière au moment ou je devrais poser mes valises dans le pays du jasmin, la Tunisie. Je suis arrivé 5 jours avant la fin du ramadan, juste pour comparer la période, avant et pendant le ramadan. J'avoue que l'on est un peu déphasé car toutes les boutiques sont fermées le matin pendant le ramadan mais n'empêche que les sites touristiques restent ouverts. Mais quelques restaurants des hypermarchés demeurent ouvert jusqu'à 11 h. Mais les nuits étaient vraiment spéciales, beaucoup plus animées et intéressantes.
Cependant, en lisant les avis des uns et des autres, il t'appartiendra de faire ton choix. Moi je dirai tu peux venir durant le mois de ramadan.Moi même j'ai pas encore des dates précises pour mon séjour sur le Maroc car j'ai aussi le Mali e ligne de mire . Si c'est confirmé et que les dates coincent c'est tant mieux. Sinon excellent séjour au Maroc.
Parler de ses rêves, c'est par le risque d'essuyer les moqueries des autres....mais la plus grande tragédie c'est de ne rien risquer du tout.
si j étais vous je choisirais un autre moment que le ramadan qui est sacré pour les musulmans
Mais en plus c'est une période très festive et les soirées sont bien animées.
Il faut juste s'adapter aux horaires d'ouverture des monuments et des organismes publics et savoir que dans les campagnes il est parfois pas facile de trouver des gargottes ouvertes à midi.
Et dans les grandes villes ne pas compter prendre un taxi à l'heure de la rupture du jeûne !!!
Je trouve que c'est une période sympa au contraire !
" Nous ne saurons jamais tout le bien qu'un simple sourire peut être capable de faire."
Mère Teresa
ok moi méme je suis un sénégalais et mon plus grand réve c est de visiter le maroc
Badou11,
j'allais te poser la question à savoir si tu avais déjà mis les pieds au Maghreb, mais tu viens de me donner la réponse, c'est un rêve. Le ramadan au Maghreb est vraiment différent de celui de l'Afrique de l'ouest en occurrence le Sénégal. Pour ce que j'ai connu à Tunis dans la capitale, à Bizerte en Provence, à Ras-jebel dans un village, les nuits sont vraiment festives et finissent tard. Quand je dis tard je parle de 4h du matin . Le gouvernement réaménagent Les horaires de travail (13h00 arrêt du travail).Faut relativiser les choses car l'industrie touristique doit vivre.
j'allais te poser la question à savoir si tu avais déjà mis les pieds au Maghreb, mais tu viens de me donner la réponse, c'est un rêve. Le ramadan au Maghreb est vraiment différent de celui de l'Afrique de l'ouest en occurrence le Sénégal. Pour ce que j'ai connu à Tunis dans la capitale, à Bizerte en Provence, à Ras-jebel dans un village, les nuits sont vraiment festives et finissent tard. Quand je dis tard je parle de 4h du matin . Le gouvernement réaménagent Les horaires de travail (13h00 arrêt du travail).Faut relativiser les choses car l'industrie touristique doit vivre.
Parler de ses rêves, c'est par le risque d'essuyer les moqueries des autres....mais la plus grande tragédie c'est de ne rien risquer du tout.
Bonsoir,
pour y être allée l'année dernière pendant le ramadan, je te conseille vivement cette période. Les gens sont encore plus accueillants pendant cette période religieuse (charité), il y a moins de touristes et malheureusement je n'ai pas vu la fin l'année dernière mais je l'ai regrété car il y a une grande fête qui doit être magnifique à voir!! Fonce évite les zones de grosses chaleur simplement pour se faire soit tu vas vers l'océan les côtes ou les montagnes (rif dans le nord, atlas). Voilà c'est un pays magnifique avec des habitants formidables.
pour y être allée l'année dernière pendant le ramadan, je te conseille vivement cette période. Les gens sont encore plus accueillants pendant cette période religieuse (charité), il y a moins de touristes et malheureusement je n'ai pas vu la fin l'année dernière mais je l'ai regrété car il y a une grande fête qui doit être magnifique à voir!! Fonce évite les zones de grosses chaleur simplement pour se faire soit tu vas vers l'océan les côtes ou les montagnes (rif dans le nord, atlas). Voilà c'est un pays magnifique avec des habitants formidables.
Et bon voyage!!! Estelle
bonjour,
* ** je n'ai pas vu la fin l'année dernière mais je l'ai regrété car il y a une grande fête qui doit être magnifique à voir!! ***
effectivement , il y a une grande fete, mais si on n'est pas dans une famille marocaine, on ne voit rien, c'est une fète intime, qui se passe en famille, autour des enfants, on se rend visite dans les autres branches lointaines des familles, les bus, les taxis et les trains sont bondés, même les voitures de loc manquent, les magasins, bars restos , sont fermés et cela dure presque une semaine. C'est pour moi une des 2 pires semaines pour "tourister" au Maroc.
* ** je n'ai pas vu la fin l'année dernière mais je l'ai regrété car il y a une grande fête qui doit être magnifique à voir!! ***
effectivement , il y a une grande fete, mais si on n'est pas dans une famille marocaine, on ne voit rien, c'est une fète intime, qui se passe en famille, autour des enfants, on se rend visite dans les autres branches lointaines des familles, les bus, les taxis et les trains sont bondés, même les voitures de loc manquent, les magasins, bars restos , sont fermés et cela dure presque une semaine. C'est pour moi une des 2 pires semaines pour "tourister" au Maroc.
bonjour,
ok, effectivement le mieux est d'être dans une famille, je n'y pas été à ce moment donc je te fais confiance sinon à tout hasard sais tu où je peux trouver du covoiturage pour traverser l'espagne et partager ferry sans prendre l'avion cet été car prix estivaux chers?
merci d'avance
ok, effectivement le mieux est d'être dans une famille, je n'y pas été à ce moment donc je te fais confiance sinon à tout hasard sais tu où je peux trouver du covoiturage pour traverser l'espagne et partager ferry sans prendre l'avion cet été car prix estivaux chers?
merci d'avance
Et bon voyage!!! Estelle
j'étais à Essaouira l'an dernier pendant la dernière semaine de ramadan et celle d'après. Franchement cela n'était pas dérangeant du tout du fait que cette ville est très touristique et que ce n'est pas la canicule l'été. Tous les restaurants étaient ouverts. Par contre, les petites épiceries de quartier ouvraient apparemment le matin un peu plus tard que d'habitude. La nuit c'est la fête dans les rues. J'étais dans une petite maison d'hôtes tenue par des français, très très sympa d'ailleurs, donc il n'y avait aucun soucis de service de ce côté là. Par contre il est vrai que pour voyager, c'est compliqué car tout est pris d'assaut. Nous étions avec notre voiture privée donc pas de problème pour nous mais c'est vrai qu'il faut être prévoyant sinon. Je n'ai pas pu m'empêcher de joindre quelques photos d'Essaouira à cette réponse car je suis amoureuse de cette ville.
Bonjour,
Voyagez fin aout début septembre au Maroc n'est pas forcément une mauvaise idée. Les résidents marocains à l'étranger(RME) rentrent chez eux pour le travail ce qui permet une diminution de population festive. Le seul souci à cette époque peut être la température, mais ce n'est pas non plus insurmontable. Beaucoup d'etablissements touristiques sont équipés de climatisation ce qui peut être intéressant entre 14.00 et 17.00 moment le plus chaud de la journée. Côté ouest l'air est + humide alors que dans le centre et le sud, l'air est plus sec et malgré la chaleur plus agréable.
De toute façon en tant qu'amoureux de ce pays, je ne peux que vous encourager à y aller.
Bon voyage
Voyagez fin aout début septembre au Maroc n'est pas forcément une mauvaise idée. Les résidents marocains à l'étranger(RME) rentrent chez eux pour le travail ce qui permet une diminution de population festive. Le seul souci à cette époque peut être la température, mais ce n'est pas non plus insurmontable. Beaucoup d'etablissements touristiques sont équipés de climatisation ce qui peut être intéressant entre 14.00 et 17.00 moment le plus chaud de la journée. Côté ouest l'air est + humide alors que dans le centre et le sud, l'air est plus sec et malgré la chaleur plus agréable.
De toute façon en tant qu'amoureux de ce pays, je ne peux que vous encourager à y aller.
Bon voyage
merci a tous pour vos reponses.....je suis vraiment tentee par l'experience meme pendant le ramadan. Si cela peut coincider avec les dates de l'un de mes amis marocains je vais aller dans sa famille pour l'Aid.....
connaissez vous des organismes qui organisent de petits sejours touristiques, de quelques jours dans certaines villes ? merci
connaissez vous des organismes qui organisent de petits sejours touristiques, de quelques jours dans certaines villes ? merci
Nanou
salut Estelle!!
tu dis que les billets d'avion sont trop chers as tu regardé avec ryanair?
j'ai pris des billets de paris beauvais tout à l'heure 60 euros A/R par personne
par contre je pars à la fin du ramadam
...
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Bonjour Nanou
je suis photographe marocains installer au maroc, pour les trains c sur il respectenet les horraires et tt voici leur site internet : http://www.oncf.ma/ pour ce qui est securite drague etc.. c ramadan donc les gens ne s amusent pas a draguer ou manquer de respect car il jeunent, sinon si tu as besoin de conseils endroit cool a visiter, n oublie pas qqchose pendant ramadan les plages sont vide donc plein de joli village sur la cote a visiter et profiter du calme des vacancier absent
voici mon Facebook Sife Elamine ou mail elamine.sifeddine@gmail.com
voila je te souhaite un tres bon voyage
Sife
Sife
peux tu m indiquer des endroits pour féter le soir aprés la rupture du jeun merci
salam tt d abord, ta question n est pas claire ... et en gros tu peux manger ou tu veux car tt le monde jeune au Maroc. Bon ramadan a toi
peace
Sife
je ne parle pas de manger seulement mais danser faire la féte si tu connais des noms
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(name, nationality, etc.). What made me go "hmm" was the request for both an email address
AND a password (with confirmation). Is this normal?
Thanks for your replies.
Hi there, a group of girlfriends and I are heading to Tunisia. We’d love to know how much cash we should bring for 6 days, considering everything’s already paid for at the hotel. Thanks for your tips!
Hi everyone! :)
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
A lot of people find it important to stick to their budget when traveling—not to skimp, but to visit as many places as possible since traveling is their hobby.
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Hi,
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Hi there,
Can anyone tell me if it's possible to travel from the Dades Gorges (Msemrir) to the Todra Gorges (Tamtatouche) on a paved road? Thanks in advance for any answers.
Hello,
We’d like to hire a French-speaking guide (agency, professional, or volunteer) to show us around Cairo over three days.
Trip planned for November 22, 23, and 24, 2026—four veteran French travelers.
We’re open to any leads, contact info, or suggestions.
Best regards,
Jacques
Hi there,
I have a layover in Algeria.
I won’t be leaving the airport.
The two tickets aren’t with the same airline.
Do I need a transit visa?
Thanks for any details and your help!
Hi there,
I live in Casablanca and my parents, who are 80, will be joining me in Marrakech at the beginning of May for a few days.
We’ll be renting a car to get around.
Do you have any suggestions for things to see or visit within a 2-3 hour drive max from Marrakech that aren’t too touristy?
My parents can walk a bit, but at 80, no climbing Mount Toubkal!
Thanks so much in advance for your ideas!
Hi everyone, just back from the 8-day Marrakech-Merzouga loop by car, and I’d love to share my feedback in case it helps some of you. Big thanks to all the forum members who kindly answered my questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Hi there,
I’m traveling solo to Egypt. Could you give me a rough idea of the budget for:
meals
hotels
taxis including tips
visits...
Just an estimate, of course.
For 15 days, what would the price range be, considering there’s an overnight train and a Nile cruise?
I’d like to compare with a travel agency. Is it more worthwhile to go through an agency despite the downsides of group travel?
Otherwise, if a travel buddy is interested in this country, why not?
Thanks a lot!




