A Sta Lucia, il n'y a effectivement pas de restaurant au sens gastronomique du terme. Juste des chaines. Mais de nombreuses guesthouses préparent des repas sur demande et la cuisine maison est généralement bien meilleure que celle servie dans les restaurants.
Sans déconner???? Y a pas un bar à viandes ou un spécial crustacées ou qqchose comme ça??? Dire que j'y reste 2 nuits et que j'ai prévu de m'y faire péter la panse et là, j'apprends soudain que je risque de me taper un Wimpy!!!!! Aller, ne soyez pas avares, lâchez-moi au moins une bonne adresse resto inside Ste Lucia, please.
Bon, va pour le truc grill... en espérant que ce soit de la viande locale!😏
Merci de me réconforter car j'avoue avoir pensé, l'espace d'un instant, que j'allais tomber en panne de viandaille dans un tel pays!!!!!
Pour les viandards invétérés, le Braza, sur l'avenue principale.
(mais ne t'attends pas à la carte du Thakadu🙁)
Sur la même avenue, un Wimpy en effet, avec wifi.😉
Tu trouveras toujours au moins un Spur (entre Mac Do et Buffalo Grill) pour manger un gros steak.
Qui ne sera pas mauvais d'ailleurs.
En revanche, l'accompagnement faut aimer... (oignons panés, frites etc)
Attention aux portions, tu as vite fait de te retrouver avec 6 côtelettes d'agneau ou 1 kilo de travers de porc dans ton assiette.
Un steak pour femmelette (Lady Steak), c'est déjà 200 grammes de bidoche ...😄
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Elle dure elle dure cette discussion et elle en a encore pour 1 an.😮
Au final, nous aurons sur ce fil tout ce que vous vouliez savoir sur l'Afrique du Sud et que vous n'osiez pas demander !😎
Quant-à Diamina, ça fera belle lurette qu'elle aura décidé d'aller ailleurs : l'Afrique du sud ayant acquis un parfum de déjà vu ! 😏
Erwan
La vie est belle ! La vie est belle ! Je me tue à vous le dire disait la fleur. Et elle meurt ( J.Prévert)
Salut Laurent,
Concernant St Lucia j'avais noté lors de ma prépa, des infos données par Simba et
Vinnylove qlq années plus tard.
Elle recommande leQuarterdeckréputé pour les fruits de mer et l' Alfredo's restaurant .Tu en trouveras d'autres ici mais avec les réserves d'usage...
Bon voyage Laurent !😉
Les 2 adresses que tu m'as communiquées me plaisent beaucoup, surtout le makakatana, les chambres ont l'air vraiment bien, mais je n'ai eu aucune photos des salles de bains et donc, je ne peux m'assurer qu'elles aient des murs et un toit à l'abri de la température extérieure. Je vais leur écrire pour avoir ces infos.
Quand tu dis que le makakatana lodge est en dehors de la ville, les infos que j'ai sur google sont un peu contradictoires. Peux-tu me dire à combien de km en dehors de la ville se trouve le lodge et dans quelle direction (nord? sud? est?.....sud est?, nord ouest? 😏😏😏😏)?
Tu sembles bien connaître Michelle la proprio du kingfisher, de quoi s'agit-il quand on parle du dîner zoulou? Est-ce qu'il y a un plan B, si ça ne me plaît pas? Si Michelle (celle du kingfisher est sympathique et que vous me la recommandez), je préfère aller dormir chez elle quitte éventuellement à aller dîner au maKakatana, (sauf si quelqu'un peut me dire ce qu'est un dîner zoulou ). J'ai regardé sur un des sites
http://www.kingfisherlodge.co.za/ ,
et leurs salles de bain ont l'air d'avoir des murs et un toit!!!!!
Je me souviens d'un super anniversaire que j'ai passé à el calafate (en Argentine) avec visite du perito moreno la journée, et un super dîner avec gâteau d'anniversaire (une forêt noire!) surprise fait pour moi par le gérant du bed and breakfast dans lequel nous logions. Et nous avions le restaurant pour nous tous seuls. Donc être seuls à leur table pour moi, c'est super!
qui change un peu de l'ambiance OOA
OOA ça veut dire quoi?
Sinon, de toute façon, je garderai inchangée la partie de mon programme jusqu'à Durban,
J1: vol vers Johannesburg
- J2: arrivée à Johannesburg, visite de Soweto et nuit la-bas
- J3: passage par Pretoria et route vers Graskop ou Sabi,
- J4 Blyde river canyon, Potholes , Les Three Rondawels, God’s Window, nuits à satara
- J5/ J6 / j7 /j8: PARC KRUGER (satara, satara, olifants, lower sabie)
- J9: après midi, départ vers le Swaziland, nuit la-bas
- J10 : départ vers St Lucia
- J11: St Lucia
- J12 , St Lucia
- J13 départ de st Lucia et route vers Durban avec un détour par Eshowe.
- J14 visite de Durban, nuit à Durban
C'est après que je pourrais réduire le nombre de jours pour avoir un risque de mauvaise météo anticipé.
Supprimer d'office le drakensberg.
Faire le parcours Durban le Cap (1779 km=19 heures de route selon google) en 5 jours (donc raccourcir le temps accordé à chaque coin)
Points de chute à partir de Durban
-J15 départ de Durban pour Mthatha (4h50 selon google) et nuit àPort St Johns!!!!!
L'Outspan Inn sert les meilleurs muffins du pays, ou presque.
Il faudra que j'aille tester, c'est certain.
- J16 départ de Mthatha pour Tsitsikamma National Park(grosse journée de conduite de 7h34 à partir de Mthatha): est-ce réaliste ou vaut-il mieux s'arrêter à Port Elysabeth?
- J17 visite puis nuit à mossel bay
- J18 Le cap (avec passage par hermanus (3h20 de conduite selon google) suivi d'1h28 pour arriver au cap?
- J19 le cap : visites
- J20 le cap : visites ou détente
- J21 vol du cap vers Upington, le matin donc éventuellement nuit au KTP?, ou alors nécessité de rester une nuit à Upington pour avoir le temps de faire des courses????
Au départ, je voulais éviter de cuisiner, mais est-ce possible au KTP? Sinon, j'ai trouvé une discussion où on donnait un mode d'emploi pour l'achat de la viande et la cuisine là-bas. Je vais potasser le sujet et revoir la question. J'avoue que c'est un point que j'appréhendais. Il me faut dédramatiser le sujet.
de J21 à J31 KTP+ INCURSION NAMIBIE. Par contre je n'ai aucune idée de destination la-bas à part seesriem dont a parlé Attila.
Et aucune idée de combinaison de circuit.
Voilà, qu'en penses-tu? Est-ce que ça fonctionne?
Comme cela, si j'ai du temps pourri dans cette partie, il me restera 10 jours de beau temps assuré après.
J'ai essayé de minimisé les risques.
Si quelqu'un veut bien me donner un circuit pour les 10 derniers jours, ça m'intéresse. Et des lodges aussi, car je n'aurai pas de tentes sur le toit, le camping et moi...........
A Upington, au retour, ça te dirait de passer ta dernière nuit dans une chambre surplombant l'Orange River?
Oh, oui, même s'ils ont une salle de bain en plein air. Ce ne sera pas mon anniversaire donc aucun problème!
J'ai essayé de tenir compte de tous les avis, y compris
des trajets détaillés, très au sud du continent, que d'aucuns ont la faiblesse de commenter.
Elle dure elle dure cette discussion et elle en a encore pour 1 an.😮
Au final, nous aurons sur ce fil tout ce que vous vouliez savoir sur l'Afrique du Sud et que vous n'osiez pas demander !😎
Ah, belle vérité!!! Mon titre à l'origine était questions diverses sur l'Afrique australe, et les modérateurs l'ont changé!
Cela prouve qu'ils ne devraient pas se mêler des titres des posts et laisser les gens libres sur leurs choix!!!!!!!
Quant-à Diamina, ça fera belle lurette qu'elle aura décidé d'aller ailleurs : l'Afrique du sud ayant acquis un parfum de déjà vu !
Bon, va pour le truc grill... en espérant que ce soit de la viande locale!😏
Merci de me réconforter car j'avoue avoir pensé, l'espace d'un instant, que j'allais tomber en panne de viandaille dans un tel pays!!!!!
Sans oublier que ces opinions datent de 2006.
Depuis tout a pu péricliter, disparaître ou...s'améliorer encore ! 🙂 😉
Quant au Kingfisher lodge dont parle Voyajou (il faut taper "St Lucia Kingfisher Lodge"), il s'agit du stluciakingfisherlodge.co.za, sympa et à l'air assez discret .
L'autre, le kingfisherlodge.co.za, ce lodge monumental 🙁, se situe à Durban à proximité d'un golf ""views of the Mount Edgecombe Golf Course welcomes you to"
Il ne doit pas avoir de "open air salle de bain ", oh non !
Je m'étais aussi un peu "égarée" lors de mes 1ers repérages !🙂
Pour tes recherches as-tu consulté le coast to coast et ce site ?
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Comment fait-on pou savoir si la salle de bain est à l'air libre ou fermée?
J'ai trouvé que chaque fois qu'ils parlent d' "ensuite bathroom", cela veut dire que c'est une salle de bain privée attenante à la chambre.
Sur le site San park, c'est vraiment étrange, on peut d'ores et déjà vérifier les disponibilités pour août 2014 mais on ne peut pas encore réservé pour août, ça s'arrête en juillet 2014!!!
Cool! Du coup, j'ai encore un mois pour m'assurer de mon planning et déterminer mes dates.
Sans oublier que ces opinions datent de 2006.
Depuis tout a pu péricliter, disparaître ou...s'améliorer encore !
Je vais donc être très circonspecte sur la validité de ces infos. Merci quand même.Et merci pour les autres liens.
L'autre, le kingfisherlodge.co.za, ce lodge monumental 🙁, se situe à Durban à proximité d'un golf ""views of the Mount Edgecombe Golf Course welcomes you to"
Dommage qu'il ne soit pas bien placé à Durban par rapport au reste de mon voyage! Tu le connais?
Rodidiou!!!! Merci pour toutes ces adresses, j'aurai donc le temps d'en tester qqes unes vu que j'y passerai 2 jours. Au moins, je sais déjà où est ce que je vais aller petit-déjeuner, youpi!😏
Sur le site San park, c'est vraiment étrange, on peut d'ores et déjà vérifier les disponibilités pour août 2014 mais on ne peut pas encore réservé pour août, ça s'arrête en juillet 2014!!!
Pour le mois d’août 2014 il faut leur envoyer un email pour les réservations. Sinon attendre le 1/10 ;-) Mais il y aura moins de place
le makakatana, les chambres ont l'air vraiment bien, mais je n'ai eu aucune
photos des salles de bains et donc, je ne peux m'assurer qu'elles aient des murs
et un toit à l'abri de la température extérieure
Un plafond de verre semble-t-il.
Par contre, et j'en suis désolé, les terrasses sont à l'extérieur!😏
On parle bien du Kingfisher cité par notre Michelle.
Quand tu dis que le makakatana lodge est en dehors de la ville, les infos
que j'ai sur google sont un peu contradictoires.
Je ne connais pas l'endroit mais leur site propose un plan (comme tu passes par Mtubatuba tu n'oublieras pas d'en acheter pour plonger dans ta baignoire îlot😛)
http://makakatana.co.za/contact-us/
Tu sembles bien connaître Michelle la proprio du kingfisher, de quoi
s'agit-il quand on parle du dîner zoulou?
Je ne la connais pas bien, seulement pour l'avoir eu comme hôtesse, et cette année elle n'était pas là. Le dîner zoulou, c'est très spécial: ils font mijoter les hôtes de la veille pour régaler ceux du jour et ainsi de suite.😊
Je ne crois pas qu'on puisse seulement dîner au Makakatana.
Oui les salles de bains du St Lucia Kingfisher sont couvertes et cosy, même. Si tu réserves, les meilleures chambres ne sont pas les plus proches du lobby, ni les plus éloignées: elles sont entre les deux (Mich' m'a confirmé hier leur tarif R420 pp B&B).
OOA... d'après Karen Blixen.
Sinon, de toute façon, je garderai inchangée la partie de mon programme jusqu'à
Durban,
Pas cap'!😇
Je ne commente pas pour le moment ton trajet provisoirement définitif: si tu décides d'aller en Namibie il y aura peut-être lieu de le reconsidérer en grande partie. La partie après Durban peut-elle être abandonnée au profit de la Namibie?
On a l'impression que tu veux faire un voyage gastronomique 😛 Pas sur que ça soit la bonne destination
Non, non au contraire je ne veux pas de cuisine sophistiquée dite de haute gastronomie, je ne donne pas dans la dentelle moi: il me faut de la bonne barbac, du lourd, de l'indigeste qui tienne au corps jusquà la prochaine fournée, de la côte, du steack, du filet, de l'onglet, de la bavette, du ribs, le tout nature ou saucé peri peri...😉
Normalement, j'ai toutes les infos qu'il me faut à ce sujet et du coup, je n'en ferai plus trop mention car on va finir par croire que je ne vis et ne voyage que pour ça! En réalité, tout ça c'est surtout pour rassurer ma femme....😇
Au départ, je voulais éviter de cuisiner, mais est-ce possible au KTP?
Oui si tu choisis le jeûne ou si tu restes à TR ce qui n'a pas grand intérêt...
Ne te focalise pas sur les restaurants.
Dans les parcs, ils sont très basiques. Tu manges mais tu ne dégustes pas.
Ailleurs, c'est un peu pareil sauf dans les grandes villes et quelques lieux touristiques.
En revanche, tu manges très bien en AFS quand tu te fais les repas car les produits frais sont bons (fruits et légumes, viandes etc) ou quand tu manges dans un BB (les petits déjeuners sont généralement bien mais plutôt salés que sucrés)
Pour boire, il y a tout ce qu'il faut partout...
Les courses : tu fonces au pick n pay d Upington. Tu bourres le charriot de fruits de légumes de pain de ..... Tu prends aussi une glacière pour les produits périssables genre yaourts, beurre etc. Tu achètes de la viande pour 2 jours (tu trouveras de la viande surgelée dans la petite boutique des camps) et des oeufs en palette...
Tu te munis aussi de bonbonnes d'eau (5l pour une personne sur 2 jours). Tu feras la cuisine aussi avec cette eau si tu ne veux pas que tes aliments aient un goût bizarre...
Tu n'oublieras pas le porte filtre si tu veux du café... (a prendre chez toi)
Oui les salles de bains du St Lucia Kingfisher sont couvertes et cosy, même. Si tu réserves, les meilleures chambres ne sont pas les plus proches du lobby, ni les plus éloignées: elles sont entre les deux (Mich' m'a confirmé hier leur tarif R420 pp B&B).
Merci pour les infos sur le st Lucia kingfisher lodge, et finalement le dîner zoulou tel que tu l'as présenté me plait bien.
Le dîner zoulou, c'est très spécial: ils font mijoter les hôtes de la veille pour régaler ceux du jour et ainsi de suite.😊
Le cannibalisme c'est aussi ça la culture africaine, non? Soyons fous jusqu'au bout comme dit Airone.🤪
Par contre, est-ce qu'ils attendent que les hôtes du jour aient mangé avant de les cuisiner, ce serait plus malin, non?😏
La partie après Durban peut-elle être abandonnée au profit de la Namibie?
La première partie du programme de J1 à J14 ne bougera plus, il faut que je fasse mes résa au kruger.
Je pourrai prendre un vol Durban / Le cap, ce qui me fera gagner du temps que je reporte en Namibie.
Le cap fait partie des villes incontournables en AFS comme Johannesburg.
J14 visite de Durban, vol le soir vers le cap
J15 visite vers hermanus à 1h28 du cap?
J16 le cap
J17: le cap
J18: vol du cap vers Upington, le matin donc nuit au KTP
J19: visite du KTP partie sud africaine
J20: visite du KTP partie sud africaine
J21: départ du KTP pour la Namibie.
De J21 à J30 Namibie.
J30: retour au KTP et nuit la-bas.
J31: visite du KTP et nuit à ?
J32: vol Upington Johannesburg, puis Johannesburg Paris.
Voilà.
Tu aurais pu dire Out of Africa, t'exagères quand même! OOA, OOA, non, mais!
A+
Ca dépend du dégrés de "fatitude" de la personne 😄 Pour mon cas personnel c'est direct à la marmite direct
Je ne savais pas que tu avais eu droit au dîner zoulou.
J'ai lu ton blog avec soin, et tu n'en as pas parlé, cachotier va!
On ne nous dit pas tout!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aV59zepKMUc
Je ne la connais pas bien, seulement pour l'avoir eu comme hôtesse, et cette année elle n'était pas là. Le dîner zoulou, c'est très spécial: ils font mijoter les hôtes de la veille pour régaler ceux du jour et ainsi de suite.😊
On devrait peut-être faire part de ce bon plan à Yellowmop ? 😎
Erwan
La vie est belle ! La vie est belle ! Je me tue à vous le dire disait la fleur. Et elle meurt ( J.Prévert)
Le cannibalisme c'est aussi ça la culture africaine, non?
Un petit recueil d'aphorismes réjouissants -et parfois glaçants, Le Dictionnaire du Diable d'Ambrose Bierce donne du cannibale cette définition:
Gastronome de l'ancienne école qui conserve des goûts simples et s'en tient à l'alimentation naturelle de l'époque pré-porcine.
Les cannibales ont donc le bon goût, gustatif et moral, de consommer des animaux ayant vécu dignement.
Par contre, est-ce qu'ils attendent que les hôtes du jour aient mangé avant de
les cuisiner, ce serait plus malin, non?😏
Ces gens-là sont des chefs avisés, soucieux du produit et du client. Si l'hôte du jour est déjà un peu gras, par égard pour l'hôte du lendemain, il le mettront à la diète. C'est donc à toi de voir si tu veux éviter la double peine: ne pas manger et être mangée.😊
Edit: je n'avais pas lu l'excellente réponse de Régis sur la fatitude!😎
La première partie du programme de J1 à J14 ne bougera plus, il faut que je
fasse mes résa au kruger.
Oui, mais ce qui compte c'est la réalité du terrain.
Chez soi, tranquillement installé dans son fauteuil, on est encore plus tranquille.
Ceci dit, je pense que c'est un vieux fantasme de Voyajou qu'il a trouvé le moyen de nous exposer. Pour ne pas le choquer je suis entrée dans son jeu. Avec les givrés tu sais...... mais chut, faut pas lui dire!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!😏😏😏😏
Un petit recueil d'aphorismes réjouissants -et parfois glaçants, Le Dictionnaire du Diable d'Ambrose Bierce donne du cannibale cette définition:
Gastronome de l'ancienne école qui conserve des goûts simples et s'en tient à l'alimentation naturelle de l'époque pré-porcine.
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J'en reste au chimpanzés et aux gorilles, même si la grande proximité génétique du porc a été établie.
Erwan
La vie est belle ! La vie est belle ! Je me tue à vous le dire disait la fleur. Et elle meurt ( J.Prévert)
Les vols pour août 2014 ne sont pas encore totalement disponibles donc je fais des simulations pour juillet.
J'ai commenc�� à faire des simulations sur expedia, de vols à partir de l'Europe pour Johannesburg et là stupéfaction:
du 1er au 31/07 le vol d'air France qui part de Londres et passe par Paris coûte 807 euros
alors que pour les même dates, le vol direct d'air france de Paris coûte 1154!!!!!!
Pourquoi le vol direct coûte-t-il plus cher, alors que le trajet depuis Londres rajoute un vol en plus?
Est-il possible de prendre le billet avec départ de Londres, de ne pas prendre le vol Londres Paris et d'embarquer à Roissy directement?
Pourquoi le vol direct coûte-t-il plus cher, alors que le trajet depuis Londres rajoute un vol en plus?
Parce ce que c'est comme ça !!!
En fait, ça arrive très souvent ; peut-être qu'un des tronçons est mieux rentabilisé pour la compagnie ou plus attractif pour le pays intermédiaire .. en tout cas, ça rajoute du temps de trajet 😠.
Est-il possible de prendre le billet avec départ de Londres, de ne pas prendre le vol Londres Paris et d'embarquer à Roissy directement?
A priori, non (re 😠). J'avais posé la question à AirFrance (trajet Bruxelles/Joburg via Paris moins cher que le vol de paris tout seul) qui m'avait répondu que chaque tronçon devait être utilisé pour que le suivant soit valide. Bon, pour le dernier, il sert à rien mais pour le premier, obligé de le prendre pour pouvoir embarquer à Roissy ....
Aah le plaisir de la recherche d'un vol 😕
Muriel
Si tu diffères de moi, mon frère, loin de me léser, tu m'enrichis (Saint Exupéry)
Et du coup inutile, car venant de Paris, il faudrait prendre soit l'eurostar soit un vol pour Londres. Je n'ai pas encore envisagé d'y aller à la nage!!!!
J'avais posé la question à AirFrance (trajet Bruxelles/Joburg via Paris moins cher que le vol de paris tout seul) qui m'avait répondu que chaque tronçon devait être utilisé pour que le suivant soit valide. Bon, pour le dernier, il sert à rien mais pour le premier, obligé de le prendre pour pouvoir embarquer à Roissy ....
Qu'est-ce qu'ils sont barbants!!!!
Sur le site d'air France, les prix sont disponibles pour août, mais pas encore sur expedia. Et ce n'est pas mieux!
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Hello everyone!
It's been a year since I've been longing for South Africa. Our first trip in August 2025 amazed us, and—rarely—it was a unanimous hit with our little family! We were touched to the core, and from the moment we got home, we couldn’t stop talking about going back. 😄
I’d like to take this opportunity to thank everyone who gave me advice on the itinerary for that first trip (Johannesburg loop: Blyde, Kruger, Eswatini, St. Lucia, Durban, Drakensberg)! Thanks to you, our trip went like a dream!
Since then, I haven’t stopped reading articles and discussions on VoyageForum to keep my head in South Africa a little longer!
So, we finally caved and just booked our tickets for January 2027 (from the 3rd to the 26th), with a plan to do a road trip from Cape Town to Johannesburg in about 3 weeks.
I’ve got a rough itinerary that seems great based on what I’ve read on various forums, but there are still some uncertain points, and that’s where I could use your advice.
3/01: Arrival in Johannesburg at 11:45 PM
4/01: Flight to Cape Town, pick up rental car. Afternoon sightseeing
5,6,7/01: Cape Town to visit the big classics in the area (any tips for finding accommodation: which neighborhood, a specific place?)
8/01: Overnight stop before Oudtshoorn—but where??? (Is it essential, or is the CT-Oudtshoorn drive manageable? If so, I’d gain a day in Oudtshoorn. Google Maps shows over 5 hours of driving...)
9,10/01: Oudtshoorn (or would 3 nights be better to really enjoy the area?)
11,12/01: Knysna, Plettenberg Bay (to have time for hiking—if you’ve got hiking tips, I’m all ears!)
13,14/01: Tsitsikamma (still to have time for hiking—who knows the must-do hikes in the area? But maybe 4 nights in the Knysna-Tsitsikamma area is too much—I’m not sure)
16,17/01: Addo Elephant (I’m torn between 3 nights at Addo or 3 nights at Mountain Zebra. Based on travel journals, especially Michel’s on MZ, I’ve scheduled 3 nights at MZ 😄...)
18,19,20/01: Mountain Zebra NP
21/01: Camdeboo NP (because it looks so beautiful!)
22/01: Overnight stop (where?) before wrapping up the trip with either 2 or 3 nights at Golden Gate NP or the Lesotho option, which appeals to me, but I don’t know if it’s doable in 3 days to be back in Johannesburg by the afternoon of the 26th.
That’s my trip idea for now...
I’m eagerly waiting for your advice, ideas, and comments...
Can’t wait to be back there again!
In Nov./Dec. 2022, I went on a safari in the region and we suffered from the extreme temperatures caused by the "El Niño" phenomenon in the Indian Ocean at that time. On top of the extreme heat, there can be torrential rains, flooding, etc., which have led to disasters with casualties.
We just got back from ten days in Tanzania. We were lucky enough to be guided by Gishaman. Always in a great mood, a good driver, and an excellent guide. Thanks to him, we not only saw the Big Five in one day but also loads of other animals. He works for the local agency Blit Safaris, which provided excellent support throughout our trip. Highly recommended!
I’m planning a potential trip to Namibia for a classic circuit in April 2027.
I’m surprised by how expensive the accommodations inside the parks are—really steep! Is it possible to stay outside the parks but still close enough to enjoy the game drives?
Do you have any recommendations for more reasonably priced lodging? I’m okay with spending 200 to 250 € per night.
No camping—the friend I’m traveling with absolutely refuses 😉, but maybe upgraded tents would work.
Hi everyone,
We’re revising our travel plans for January 2027. Originally, we were considering Uganda for about 14/15 days, but given the current health situation and the restrictions that might affect my partner, who’s American, we’ve decided to switch to Tanzania instead.
I’m used to traveling in South Africa and organizing my trips myself, but I get the impression that planning a safari in Tanzania is quite different.
I know self-drive isn’t really an option in Tanzania. So my main question is: can you organize your own itinerary and book lodges directly, then hire a local driver-guide? Or is it better to go through a local agency that handles the entire safari?
For the itinerary, which parks would you recommend for a first-time visit in January? Serengeti, Ngorongoro, Tarangire, Manyara, Ruaha, Arusha, Selous…
We’d also like to include Zanzibar to end the trip with a few days at the beach. Over 14/15 days, does that sound realistic or too ambitious?
Finally, for flights, is it better to arrive at Kilimanjaro (JRO) or Dar es Salaam (DAR) based on the itinerary we’re considering?
Thanks in advance for your feedback, especially on the best way to organize the safari and which parks to prioritize in January!
Hi, I'm looking for information on the road conditions in Moremi. We're leaving in 15 days, and from what I've heard, the roads are pretty tough to drive on. Any advice?
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Just returned from a three-week family trip to Kenya (with three kids aged 10, 12, and 15), and I wanted to share my experience. Forums were super helpful in planning this trip, especially if you want to get a bit off the beaten path.
First off, Kenya is an amazing destination with incredibly friendly and welcoming locals. It was easy to travel around because you can always find someone to give you directions or help you out.
For practical tips—though you’ve probably read this elsewhere—get a Safaricom SIM card when you arrive at the airport so you can pay via M-Pesa (you can top it up with a credit card using the Wise app) and chat with people on WhatsApp. It’ll make your life *so* much easier (booking trains, buses, park entries, etc.) and save you from carrying too much cash or hunting for ATMs.
Also, we went during the first three weeks of July, which wasn’t peak tourist season.
One thing to note: even if you’re using public transport and budget accommodations, Kenya can still be pricey because tourist attractions add up fast—often more expensive than in France. But honestly, it’s usually worth it!
We started our trip with a 5-day homestay. We were welcomed by a really lovely family in Loitokitok with a view of Kilimanjaro right from their garden entrance (just a heads-up: in July, it’s often shrouded in mist!). To find them, search for Greenfield Homestay in Loitokitok. It was a fantastic experience, especially with kids! On top of transfers, they organized several outings with locals: a hike to the Tanzanian border, a motorcycle ride on the foothills of Kilimanjaro, and a day safari in Amboseli. You can book with them eyes closed! For the safari, Anthony (who’s English-speaking) took us around—he’s from the area and knows the park like the back of his hand. Highly recommend him!
Anthony then drove us to Isiolo, a town in the north that’s just starting to open up to tourism. We wanted to see the Monday livestock market, where different ethnic groups gather to buy and sell goats, sheep, and cows (according to Lonely Planet). We were a bit disappointed and wouldn’t recommend it. We also visited Ngare Ndare Forest, which has a stunning waterfall, an interesting walk with an armed ranger (elephants are common), and a suspension bridge for admiring the canopy. Just make sure to let them know you’re coming at least three days in advance to guarantee a ranger will be available. We also did a second safari day in Samburu—it’s a great complement to Amboseli and totally worth it!
Next, we headed to Naivasha (still with Anthony). We found a place on Airbnb (Jasmine House) at Fischerman’s Camp, a campsite we really loved! You’ll spot hippos, monkeys, and beautiful birds there. We organized several activities: a boat ride on the lake to see birds, zebras, and giraffes; a bike safari in Hell’s Gate Park (the campsite is right by the entrance and rents bikes); and a hike to Crater Lake (departing by boat from the campsite), where you walk among zebras, giraffes, and different gazelles. Naivasha is way more touristy than Loitokitok or Isiolo, but there’s no shortage of things to do.
Finally, we spent our last week in Watamu on the coast. To get there, we took an overnight ENA Coach bus from Naivasha to Mombasa, booked via https://www.travler.africa/. It was comfortable and fast, but you’ll need to call the driver to arrange a pickup spot—the restaurant staff at the campsite helped us out with that! Then we took an Uber to Watamu since we had a lot of luggage (we skipped the matatu).
Watamu is nicknamed "Little Italy" because of all the Italian tourists. When we were there (third week of July), it wasn’t peak season yet, so the beaches weren’t cleaned. But we loved the laid-back vibe and how easy it was to get around. We *highly* recommend the marine turtle rescue center—it’s fascinating (especially with kids) and supports a great cause! We were a bit disappointed by the marine park, though—maybe because of the season? There weren’t many fish, and jellyfish kinda ruined the snorkeling. The mangrove tour is also a must-do.
For the trip back to Nairobi, we took the express train from Mombasa. We booked our tickets when we first arrived in Kenya (since payment is only via M-Pesa). The train is reliable and comfortable, and we saw lots of elephants along the way. Just a heads-up: there are *a lot* of security checks, and we almost weren’t allowed to board with our Opinel knife…
If you have any questions, feel free to ask!
All in all, we had an amazing trip—so much variety, great encounters, and the magic of safaris!
My trip to South Africa is getting closer (still 2 months to go 😏), and I’m diving back into my itinerary: from Saturday to the following Sunday around Cape Town, then from Sunday to the following Saturday in Kruger.
For Cape Town, the plan was to avoid changing accommodation every day (we’ll do enough of that in the second part) but still see different landscapes.
I know, I’m missing out on a lot, but you’ve got to make choices, and after all this time, I know what I like—and especially what I don’t (or like less) 😉
Here’s the breakdown:
Arrival Saturday at 11 AM: heading to Hermanus (2 nights). The idea is to stroll along the cliff path in the afternoon, and possibly drive to the Klein River Lagoon. Sunday: Stony Point, then depending on time and weather, a hike in Kogelberg Nature Reserve or Fernkloof Nature Reserve (which seems less scenic but has shorter walks).
Monday: drive to Franschhoek (1 night). If everything lines up, a hike in Jonkershoek NR and a visit to a wine estate.
Tuesday: drive to Mountceder Lodge in the Cederberg (2 nights). I’m thinking of visiting the Stadsaal Caves and the elephant paintings, and maybe one of the hikes listed on the lodge’s site or Maltese Cross.
Thursday: heading to Hout Bay for 3 nights. In no particular order: a classic day trip around the peninsula, half a day at Kirstenbosch Gardens, and half a day at Lion’s Head.
Sunday: flight to Johannesburg.
My questions are mostly about (short) hikes:
Has anyone here done hikes in Kogelberg, Fernkloof, or Jonkershoek?
At Mountceder Lodge (Michel, if you’re reading this… 😉), has anyone tried the hikes (guided or not) offered by the lodge?
There’s still half a day to fill when we’re in Hout Bay—any ideas (not necessarily hikes)?
Lastly, regarding safety: the French foreign ministry (always alarmist, but still) recommends hiking in groups. Is it really risky in broad daylight? (I’m not sure a group of two women counts as a "group"…)
Thanks in advance for your answers, ideas, and comments!
Question: we’re doing a 3-week trip in Namibia, including 5 days for Victoria Falls.
I’ve booked one night in Brandberg, and then I have some questions.
I was thinking of spending 2 nights in Palmwag, then heading to Etosha for one night in Okaukuejo and then 2 nights in Halali.
Alternatively, from Brandberg, I could book a night near Galton Gate and then enter Etosha.
I’m not really sure about the distances, especially with a 4x4.
Same for the return trip: Halali to Windhoek seems long. Maybe it’d be smart to break it up on the way back? (We have 2 days to get back if needed.) If so, where?
Jambo! I organized my trip through this kind of group, so I thought I’d share my experience here. We traveled as a group of four, including two kids aged 9 and 11. After requesting around twenty quotes, I decided to book the safari portion with MAKING MEMORIES IN AFRICA. Ally responded quickly and listened to all my requests—unlike other agencies—such as having a French-speaking guide, the order of park visits (Tarangire, Manyara, Serengeti, then Ngorongoro), and a mix of budget hotels and camping to keep costs down. There were still four agencies in the running, and price was the deciding factor. Even though they were the cheapest, I felt better taken care of than with others. For example, all meals were prepared by a Maasai chef, Louis, who accompanied us throughout the trip, while some others ate meals out of cardboard boxes. Samuel, our guide, explained so many things and answered all our questions. José drove us safely the whole way. Everything was done with great cheer!
At the end of the stay, Ally came to meet us and gave us t-shirts with the agency’s logo—we loved that they took the time to hear our feedback in person. In short, I highly recommend them +++, especially since it’s a local agency that also supports a charity for women and children.
For Zanzibar, I organized everything myself. I hesitated for a long time but eventually booked all four nights at the same place. We don’t like crowds, so I initially considered Jambiani but ended up choosing EVERGREEN BUNGALOWS in Bwejuu. We took their first airport-to-hotel transfer since we arrived at night, and it felt safer. Great value for money, in our opinion. Just be aware that it’s quite isolated—perfect for relaxing and going on excursions. There were very few beach vendors, unlike what I’d read about Zanzibar. We lived with our feet in the sand from morning to night, with a small basin of water outside our room to rinse off. Such a lovely spot!
I had asked for some excursion prices before leaving but ended up booking on-site. Not at our hotel, but at a nearby restaurant that was cheaper. After some thought, since we were based in Bwejuu, I wanted to do Blue Lagoon and Pungume (both departing from the south of Zanzibar).
Blue Lagoon: About 3 hours total, with snorkeling on a small reef full of fish (coral wasn’t great) and a stop at a spot with tons of starfish, plus local snacks, fruit, and drinks.
Pungume: An amazing day with a 50% chance of seeing dolphins (we missed them), a visit to the mangroves, then snorkeling at a spot with some nice coral and, of course, fish. We ended with a fantastic grill (tuna, shrimp, squid, lobster, and fries) on a sandbank in the shade.
Finally, before heading to Stone Town, we visited Paje Cave, which is much less known than Maalum. It’s smaller, but we saw bats, went for a swim, and fed the chickens and rabbits (great for the kids). To finish, we explored Stone Town on our own and had dinner at Forodhani Market.
For flights, we flew with Turkish Airlines from Barcelona to Kilimanjaro and back from Zanzibar—no issues there. However, I don’t recommend the Kilimanjaro-Zanzibar leg with Precision Air. Our luggage didn’t arrive, and according to the hotel, this happens often. We only got it back a day and a half later.
March or May 2027.
Around 15 days in the Western Cape,
then 15 days in the southern KNP.
Arrival either in PE or George.
The pros know I’m somewhat familiar with the area... that I don’t camp... that my accommodations can be simple and remote, self-catering but with basic comforts... that I’m looking for spots that are a bit off the beaten path... in a relaxed mode...
From George:
Late arrival... need some rest... Herolds Bay from George to the N1.
Tsitsikamma is catching my eye (Storms River)... with or without a stop in Knysna.
Question:
What’s the current condition of the pass from Knysna to Uniondale? R339.
And while I’m at it, the condition of the R340.
Tsitsikamma, Knysna, and my questions still apply if arriving in PE.
Is the Swartberg still closed?
Any recommendations for accommodation in Prince Albert?
If I cross the escarpment, I’ll continue via Anysberg NR, Touwsrivier... any thoughts?
From there... Tankwa Karoo or Mount Cedar (or both).
Then heading back down to the coast... the highlands of Hermanus or Kogelberg NR (any opinions on the latter?).
Or,
A more classic route along the coast...
If I arrive (fairly late) in PE... any ideas for accommodation in that little area?
Given that Nyathi Camp is winking at me...
(For context... a while back, I stayed at Riverbend (same Addo sector, private concession)... and I visited the ruins of that abandoned lodge at the time, which has clearly been renovated since... located in a very quiet part of Addo...).
Any feedback from the pros?
Well, that’s about it...
I’m open to any other tips or advice!
I’m reaching out with a question about which park to choose for a 3-day safari in Kenya.
After 20 days in Uganda, I’m meeting up with my dad for a 3-day safari (that works for him). We’ll be meeting in Nairobi and have a full day to travel to a park (preferably the farthest from Nairobi to avoid crowds?) and spend 4 nights there before heading back to the capital for our flight to France.
I’d love to hear your recommendations since I’ve read so many great tips on this forum.
At the end of July, we’re heading to Namibia with a group of five for a three-week road trip and visit to the national parks.
We’ve read conflicting info about buying entry tickets—either online (where?) or at the gate when we arrive?
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old.
We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions:
- How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?).
- Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice.
- I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that.
- Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas!
Gabriel
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg.
This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights).
D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights)
Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai).
D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights).
D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE).
D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6.
If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too.
Thanks! 🙂
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland.
Could you share any tips on:
- the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar)
- your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours
- reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Hi everyone, I’m here to get some advice on visiting KRUGER Park.
From what I’ve gathered through my reading, I understand there are two ways to visit the park:
- Independently with your own vehicle
=> Do you drive all day?
- By booking with a professional
=> Safari early in the morning and late in the afternoon. But what do you do in between?
When it comes to accommodations, the options are:
- Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional
- Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive
- Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me.
Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works...
Thanks to everyone for your help.
Bidule 27
Hey everyone!
Heading to Namibia in a few days and I just read that the entry fees for all parks in Namibia have skyrocketed. Increases between 86 and 100%, and this has been in effect since April 1st (no joke). Have any of you heard about this, and if so, do you know if it’s actually being enforced?
For example, the fee for Etosha has gone from 150 NAD to 280 NAD per day per person.
Thanks in advance!
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature.
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We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa?
As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult?
We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :)
We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend.
See you on the road with Doddy
Hi,
I’m starting to plan a great trip for the last three weeks of January 2027 (my first time in South Africa).
After spending a few hours (!) browsing this forum, here’s a rough first draft of my itinerary:
D0 Arrival at JNB
D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon
D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger
D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area
D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route)
D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this:
- Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective.
First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...).
That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on.
The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start...
During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.)
The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance.
Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page).
Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water),
– Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places,
– Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly,
– One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
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Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored:
– services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water),
– hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments,
– visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly,
– one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment.
To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone.
Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Hello,
With so many agencies out there, we're feeling a bit lost. Could you please share your experience—like recommending your agency if you were happy with them—and tell us why, and if possible, what budget we should expect? Feel free to send it in a private message :)
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Hi there,
I’ve reached out to a few agencies for a week-long family safari next summer before heading to Zanzibar.
So far, the itinerary looks like this:
Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha
Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire
Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu
Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro
Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera
Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo
Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera
Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking:
Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha
Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?)
Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire
Day 4: Full day in Tarangire
Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu
Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro
Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO
Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome...
Thanks
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.