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Transport pour le trajet de Foz do Iguaçu jusqu'à Sucre?
by Mariecyrille
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour,
Quequ'un à t-il déjà fait ce trajet? Quel moyen de transport? Combien de temps? Quel est le coût? Merci d'avance.
Quequ'un à t-il déjà fait ce trajet? Quel moyen de transport? Combien de temps? Quel est le coût? Merci d'avance.
Salut pour faire un tel trajet compter de nombreux jours et d'innombrables heures dans les bus...
le mieux est de faire Foz do Iguazu Corumba via Campo Grande au Brésil.
Pus bus pour Santa Cruz , Cochabamba et au final Sucre.
A vue de nez compter 4-5 jours non-stop de bus 😉.
Ou bien via le Paraguay mais je crois qu'il faut un visa pour le Paraguay.
Par avion prendre un avion pour Saô Paulo , puis vol pour Santa Cruz, ce sera moins cher que d'aller à La Paz
Ou bien via le Paraguay mais je crois qu'il faut un visa pour le Paraguay.
Par avion prendre un avion pour Saô Paulo , puis vol pour Santa Cruz, ce sera moins cher que d'aller à La Paz
J'ai fait le trajet Foz do Iguaçu - Cochabamba
Je pense au même itinéraire, en passant par Corumba. (Je ne pense pas qu'il faut un visa pour le Paraguay mais il parait que les routes sont encore plus interminables...)
Depuis Corumba, j'ai réservé sur place un billet d'avion pour le lendemain entre Puerto Suarez (juste de l'autre coté de la frontière en Bolivie) jusqu'à Santa Cruz. Le billet m'a couté environ 100 dollars US, c'était ça ou 23 heures de train si je me souviens bien, j'ai choisi de me payer un petit coup de pouce.
J'ai voulu ensuite continuer en avion jusqu'à Cochabamba depuis Santa Cruz, mais il n'y avais plus de place donc j'ai fait toute une nuit de bus jusqu'à Cochabamba. Si j'avais su j'aurai bien sur réservé directement Puerto-Suarez-Cochabamba, mais bon quand on voyage à l'arrache il y a toujours quelques petits ratés... et une nuit de bus de plus ou de moins, on n'est plus à ça près.
Les bus brésiliens sont tout confort, modernes, l'une des seules fois ou j'ai vraiment réussi à dormir..
Je dirais pareil 3-4 jours avec l'avion ou plutot 4-5 jours en bus, sachant qu'il faut prévoir des pauses parce que tout ça d'une traite enfermé dans un bus il y a de quoi devenir fou je pense.
Voila j'espère avoir aidé un peu !
Bon courage et bon voyage
Julien
Depuis Corumba, j'ai réservé sur place un billet d'avion pour le lendemain entre Puerto Suarez (juste de l'autre coté de la frontière en Bolivie) jusqu'à Santa Cruz. Le billet m'a couté environ 100 dollars US, c'était ça ou 23 heures de train si je me souviens bien, j'ai choisi de me payer un petit coup de pouce.
J'ai voulu ensuite continuer en avion jusqu'à Cochabamba depuis Santa Cruz, mais il n'y avais plus de place donc j'ai fait toute une nuit de bus jusqu'à Cochabamba. Si j'avais su j'aurai bien sur réservé directement Puerto-Suarez-Cochabamba, mais bon quand on voyage à l'arrache il y a toujours quelques petits ratés... et une nuit de bus de plus ou de moins, on n'est plus à ça près.
Les bus brésiliens sont tout confort, modernes, l'une des seules fois ou j'ai vraiment réussi à dormir..
Je dirais pareil 3-4 jours avec l'avion ou plutot 4-5 jours en bus, sachant qu'il faut prévoir des pauses parce que tout ça d'une traite enfermé dans un bus il y a de quoi devenir fou je pense.
Voila j'espère avoir aidé un peu !
Bon courage et bon voyage
Julien
Julien
Moi je passerais plutôt par l'Argentine
Iguazu -> Salta (environ 20h) Salta -> La quiaca (environ 8h) Villazon -> Sucre (environ 12h)
Ca me semble bien plus direct que de passer par campo grande, santa cruz et cochabamba
Iguazu -> Salta (environ 20h) Salta -> La quiaca (environ 8h) Villazon -> Sucre (environ 12h)
Ca me semble bien plus direct que de passer par campo grande, santa cruz et cochabamba
merci pour ton aide!!!
Et oui quatre mois en Amérique du sud, il faut faire des choix, puis les pays sont tellement immenses...
Il va falloir apprendre à aimer le bus!!
En même temps si tu as 4 mois rien ne t'oblige à faire le trajet d'une traite...
Il y a de quoi aimer les bus en Amérique du Sud ne t'inquiète pas... les bus argentins (mais aussi ceux d'autres pays) sont d'un confort assez incroyable
Il y a de quoi aimer les bus en Amérique du Sud ne t'inquiète pas... les bus argentins (mais aussi ceux d'autres pays) sont d'un confort assez incroyable
Bonjour,
Si jamais tu as des noms de compagnie de bus que tu peux me recommander en Bolivie, au Pérou, en Argentine, au Chili, ce serait super.
Merci.
Si jamais tu as des noms de compagnie de bus que tu peux me recommander en Bolivie, au Pérou, en Argentine, au Chili, ce serait super.
Merci.
Bolivie : c'est très aléatoire, ce que je faisais était de regarder les bus en arrivant à la gare routière pour faire mon choix.
Pérou : Cruz del sur est au top mais pas donné. Ormeno a bonne presse aussi pour un peu moins cher
Chili : Aucune idée
Argentine : Je me souviens plus des noms mais j'ai l'impression que dans l'ensemble tout est bon.
La meilleure chose à faire est toujours d'aller jeter un oeuil sur les bus dans les gares, ca t'évite les mauvaises surprises (et pas faire confiance aux photos qu'on te montre)
La meilleure chose à faire est toujours d'aller jeter un oeuil sur les bus dans les gares, ca t'évite les mauvaises surprises (et pas faire confiance aux photos qu'on te montre)
Salut,
Et oui quatre mois en Amérique du sud, il faut faire des choix, puis les pays sont tellement immenses... Il va falloir apprendre à aimer le bus!!
si j'avais 4 mois mon choix serait très vite fait. Je repasserais par le Brésil où on peut se promener dans le Pantanal voisin de la Bolivie. C'est un des endroits du Brésil les plus intéressants et très riche écologiquement. De Cuiaba on trouve facilement des bus pour Guayamerim en Bolivie. Ensuite en Bolivie il y a les Misiones ( je ne connais pas ) qui est aussi très intéressante. Santa Cruz de la Sierra ne manque pas d'intérêts tout de même.
Sinon oui en passant par l'Argentine c'est une autre possibilité et le chemin le plus court.. mais le nord de l'Argentine m'avait moins attiré Les Andes sont plus intéressantes en Bolivie ( ça y est c'est parti pour les polémiques -je vais encore attirer les mécontents 😉)
Et oui quatre mois en Amérique du sud, il faut faire des choix, puis les pays sont tellement immenses... Il va falloir apprendre à aimer le bus!!
si j'avais 4 mois mon choix serait très vite fait. Je repasserais par le Brésil où on peut se promener dans le Pantanal voisin de la Bolivie. C'est un des endroits du Brésil les plus intéressants et très riche écologiquement. De Cuiaba on trouve facilement des bus pour Guayamerim en Bolivie. Ensuite en Bolivie il y a les Misiones ( je ne connais pas ) qui est aussi très intéressante. Santa Cruz de la Sierra ne manque pas d'intérêts tout de même.
Sinon oui en passant par l'Argentine c'est une autre possibilité et le chemin le plus court.. mais le nord de l'Argentine m'avait moins attiré Les Andes sont plus intéressantes en Bolivie ( ça y est c'est parti pour les polémiques -je vais encore attirer les mécontents 😉)
J'ai eu cette réflexion pour mon voyage en juillet 2009 entre Iguazu et Santa Cruz, et ai envisagé :
- avion, via Argentine ou via Brésil : mais rien de direct, cher et relativement long.
- autocar via Salta : long, et doublon car je redescendais ultérieurement vers l'Argentine depuis la Bolivie.
- autocar via le Paraguay : paysages monotones sans grand intérêt, très long, inconfortable, et durée très aléatoire à en juger par les témoignages trouvés sur Internet.
- autocar via le Brésil.
C'est la dernière solution que j'ai retenue.
Trajet effectué en juillet 2009.
18/07 : Départ tardif de Foz do Iguaçu à 18h00, compagnie Princessa dos Campos, pour Cascavel (24,68 BRL, changement d'autocar), puis Campo Grande (89,34 + 2,40 BRL).
19/07 : arrivée vers 10h00 à Campo Grande, départ à 10h30 pour Corumba (77 BRL) par autocar de la compagnie Andorinha. Arrivée avec retard vers 17h00 à la gare routière. Bureau des visas fermés depuis 11h30, ce qui m'oblige à passer la nuit à Corumba.
20/07 : change complémentaire (euro non accepté par les banques, CB non supportée par les DAB locaux, salut trouvé auprès de Samir, commerçant d'origine libanaise dans la principale rue commercante), Bus de la Fronteira (2 BRL), passage de la frontière, obtention de bolivianos (privilégier les reals aux euros dont le cours local est décourageant), taxi pour la gare ferroviaire (5 BOL), train de 12h45 pour San Jose de Chiquitos (voir jours/horaires/tarifs sur www.ferroviariaoriental.com).
21/07 : arrivée avec retard à San Jose de Chiquitos, vers 02h30. Nuit, visite.
Les 2 jours suivants furent consacrés à la visite des missions jésuites, en chemin vers Santa Cruz où je suis arrivé le 23/07 un peu avant 20h00. De là, j'ai choisi de rejoindre La Paz via Cochabamba.
Si intéresse, je peux te communiquer le détail de mon passage dans la Chiquitania, région des missions jésuites (plus intéressantes que les missions guaranis en Argentine).
Bon voyage.
Fabrice
C'est la dernière solution que j'ai retenue.
Trajet effectué en juillet 2009.
18/07 : Départ tardif de Foz do Iguaçu à 18h00, compagnie Princessa dos Campos, pour Cascavel (24,68 BRL, changement d'autocar), puis Campo Grande (89,34 + 2,40 BRL).
19/07 : arrivée vers 10h00 à Campo Grande, départ à 10h30 pour Corumba (77 BRL) par autocar de la compagnie Andorinha. Arrivée avec retard vers 17h00 à la gare routière. Bureau des visas fermés depuis 11h30, ce qui m'oblige à passer la nuit à Corumba.
20/07 : change complémentaire (euro non accepté par les banques, CB non supportée par les DAB locaux, salut trouvé auprès de Samir, commerçant d'origine libanaise dans la principale rue commercante), Bus de la Fronteira (2 BRL), passage de la frontière, obtention de bolivianos (privilégier les reals aux euros dont le cours local est décourageant), taxi pour la gare ferroviaire (5 BOL), train de 12h45 pour San Jose de Chiquitos (voir jours/horaires/tarifs sur www.ferroviariaoriental.com).
21/07 : arrivée avec retard à San Jose de Chiquitos, vers 02h30. Nuit, visite.
Les 2 jours suivants furent consacrés à la visite des missions jésuites, en chemin vers Santa Cruz où je suis arrivé le 23/07 un peu avant 20h00. De là, j'ai choisi de rejoindre La Paz via Cochabamba.
Si intéresse, je peux te communiquer le détail de mon passage dans la Chiquitania, région des missions jésuites (plus intéressantes que les missions guaranis en Argentine).
Bon voyage.
Fabrice
S'exposer à l'Etranger lointain amène à mieux connaître et comprendre sa propre Culture.
Ou bien via le Paraguay mais je crois qu'il faut un visa pour le Paraguay.
En juillet 2009, le Paraguay n'imposait pas de visa pour les citoyens français.
Ainsi, j'ai passé une petite journée à visiter les missions de Trinidad et de San Jesus de Tavarangue, en partant tôt le matin de Posadas (Argentine, province de Misiones). Ces missions sont en meilleur état que celles côté argentin, détruites au début du XIXeme par l'armée paraguayenne. Font partie des rares sites du Patrimoine de l'Humanité où l'on peut être l'unique visiteur pendant plusieurs heures.
J'ai fait ces visites en chemin pour Iguazu, après un autocar de nuit depuis Buenos Aires (en cama, car j'avais déjà passé la nuit précédente dans l'avion).
Plus d'infos si nécessaire pour MarieCyrille
Fabrice
En juillet 2009, le Paraguay n'imposait pas de visa pour les citoyens français.
Ainsi, j'ai passé une petite journée à visiter les missions de Trinidad et de San Jesus de Tavarangue, en partant tôt le matin de Posadas (Argentine, province de Misiones). Ces missions sont en meilleur état que celles côté argentin, détruites au début du XIXeme par l'armée paraguayenne. Font partie des rares sites du Patrimoine de l'Humanité où l'on peut être l'unique visiteur pendant plusieurs heures.
J'ai fait ces visites en chemin pour Iguazu, après un autocar de nuit depuis Buenos Aires (en cama, car j'avais déjà passé la nuit précédente dans l'avion).
Plus d'infos si nécessaire pour MarieCyrille
Fabrice
S'exposer à l'Etranger lointain amène à mieux connaître et comprendre sa propre Culture.
Salut Fabrice merci pour les détails.
Mais je ferais un reproche c'est une faute de ne pas avoir visité un minimum du Pantanal ! 😉
Quoique les Missions cela doit être intéressant je ne connais pas du tout.
Certes, Mathews, le Pantanal est une région hors du commun, mais les vacances n'étant pas extensibles, il m'a fallut choisir.
J'ai privilégié l'aspect culturel des Missions Chiquitos en y passant 3 jours, d'autant que le Pantanal me semble mériter une bonne semaine, sinon plus.
Peut-être le Pantanal recevra t'il ma visite dans le futur, mais il y a tant à voir de part le monde...
Fabrice
P.S. : pour une première découverte des missions Chiquitos, tu peux jeter un coup d'oeil sur l'article wikipedia les concernant. A l'image de ce que montre le film "Mission". Après la visite des chutes d'Iguazu, c'était un parfait complément.
J'ai privilégié l'aspect culturel des Missions Chiquitos en y passant 3 jours, d'autant que le Pantanal me semble mériter une bonne semaine, sinon plus.
Peut-être le Pantanal recevra t'il ma visite dans le futur, mais il y a tant à voir de part le monde...
Fabrice
P.S. : pour une première découverte des missions Chiquitos, tu peux jeter un coup d'oeil sur l'article wikipedia les concernant. A l'image de ce que montre le film "Mission". Après la visite des chutes d'Iguazu, c'était un parfait complément.
S'exposer à l'Etranger lointain amène à mieux connaître et comprendre sa propre Culture.
Je l'ai fait en passant par le Paraguay dans l'autre sens : Santa Cruz-Asuncion-Iguazu il me semble que c'est le plus court en bus. Pas besoin de visa pour le Paraguay mais j'ai pas trop aime ce pays. A peu pres 24h pour Santa Cruz-Asuncion (40$) et 5h pour Asuncion-Iguazu si je me souviens bien.
Ok les paysages sont monotones mais la route n'est pas si mal que ca. Et c'est interessant de voir le Chaco.
Entre Santa Cruz et Sucre tu peux t'arreter un jour ou deux a Samaipata.
Bonjour,
nous allons faire ce trajet début fevrier. Est-ce qu'on peut traverser le Pantanal à cette saison
ooops je veux pas dire des aneries mais ily a une période où le Pantanal est inondé évidemment. J'y étais en août-septembre c'était la saison sèche donc j'en conclus que février est la saison des pluies ?
nous allons faire ce trajet début fevrier. Est-ce qu'on peut traverser le Pantanal à cette saison
ooops je veux pas dire des aneries mais ily a une période où le Pantanal est inondé évidemment. J'y étais en août-septembre c'était la saison sèche donc j'en conclus que février est la saison des pluies ?
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So, what do you think? Is this doable, or should we tweak it? Thanks in advance for your invaluable feedback and tips! 🙂
Below is our draft itinerary (with questions at each stop):
29/11: France → Colombia. Overnight in Bogotá. 30/11: Exploring Bogotá: La Candelaria and Montserrate. 01/12: Gold Museum (closed on Mondays). Drive to Zipaquirá (1.5 hrs) to visit the Salt Cathedral. Then drive to Villa de Leyva (3 hrs). Explore the town. Overnight in Villa de Leyva. 02/12: Return to Bogotá via Laguna de Guatavita (5 hrs). Is it worth the detour? Overnight in Bogotá. 03/12: Flight to Pereira. Drive to Salento. Overnight in Salento. 04/12: Cocora Valley (hike among the wax palms) followed by a drive around the area. Are there any waterfalls or other sights nearby? 05/12: Visit a coffee finca—any recommendations? Then explore the surroundings: Filandia, Manizales, waterfalls? Hot springs? Which ones? 06/12: Flight to Medellín. 07/12: Exploring Medellín: Centro, Plaza Botero, Comuna 13. How do you visit Comuna 13? Is it easy to get around Medellín? Metro? Buses? 08/12: Drive to Guatapé (2 hrs). Visit the town, stroll around the lake, then El Peñol. Overnight in Guatapé. 09/12: Return to Medellín. 10/12: Flight to Santa Marta. Drive to a hotel near Tayrona Park. 11/12: Tayrona—El Zaino entrance. 12/12: Tayrona—Palangana entrance, then Bahia Concha and Santa Marta. What do you think? 13/12: Drive to Minca (45 mins). Can we reach the village by car? Pozo Azul and Marinka waterfalls. Overnight in Minca (or back in Tayrona?). 14/12: Drive to Puerto Nao (5 hrs). Stop in Ciénaga on the way + boat tour in Nueva Venecia and/or Buena Vista? Not enough time? Overnight in Puerto Nao. 15/12: Exploring Cartagena: Centro, Getsemaní, the walls + La Boquilla if we have time. 16/12: La Boquilla (is it really worth it?) if we didn’t have time yesterday, then back to the beach. 17/12: Return to France.
So, what do you think? Is this doable, or should we tweak it? Thanks in advance for your invaluable feedback and tips! 🙂
Hi there, I’ll be in Brazil from December 10th to the end of February.
I’ve sketched out a rough itinerary but I’m not sure how to arrange it—considering the climate, year-end holidays, and Carnival.
Basically, I’m thinking of the Amazon, the Northeast coast with Lençóis Maranhenses National Park (but skipping Chapada Diamantina),
Ouro Preto, Paraty, and Ilha Grande—but no Rio visit.
Is this doable in 3 months?
Which direction should I take for this itinerary?
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone, does anyone know the agency Ventura Travel Agency (not ventura travel)? After lots of research and quotes, it’s the only one offering Uyuni at a reasonable price while meeting all the criteria: transfer to the border, private-room accommodation, and a very fair rate. Other agencies or guides either offer shared rooms, no border transfer, or prices that are way too high. But I’d love to hear some reviews about this agency. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
We're planning a trip to Chile to visit the Atacama Desert and then head toward Putre, Lauca, Salar de Surire, etc.
Which would be the better time to go, April or November?
Is an SUV enough?
Looking forward to your tips!
Hi, I'm looking for a local agency in Uyuni to do the trip and tours from Uyuni to San Pedro de Atacama. Thanks for sharing your experience!
Hi there,
Could you recommend any car rental agencies in Calama and Punta Arenas? Best regards,
Could you recommend any car rental agencies in Calama and Punta Arenas? Best regards,
Hi everyone, French travelers in Chile—what credit cards do you use for your various car rentals in the country? I’m traveling in September and was planning to switch my regular debit card (a VISA PREMIER in deferred debit mode) for the deposit guarantee.
My rentals are with Figal in Punta Arenas, Econautos in Arica, and Chilean Rent a Car in Temuco, and all of them want the deposit on a credit card. For me, deferred debit *should* work, but I’ve read comments saying the opposite.
How’s it actually working on the ground with these rental companies right now? Will a deferred debit card work, or not at all?
In France, banks don’t issue credit cards, right—or am I mistaken?
Thanks for your help!
My rentals are with Figal in Punta Arenas, Econautos in Arica, and Chilean Rent a Car in Temuco, and all of them want the deposit on a credit card. For me, deferred debit *should* work, but I’ve read comments saying the opposite.
How’s it actually working on the ground with these rental companies right now? Will a deferred debit card work, or not at all?
In France, banks don’t issue credit cards, right—or am I mistaken?
Thanks for your help!
Hi everyone, is it still possible to travel in Ecuador outside the Amazon region? If so, do you have a reliable agency to recommend? All your recent experiences from the past few months would be greatly appreciated. Thanks so much
Hi,
We’re heading to Buenos Aires for 3 days in November and would like to do a guided tour of a few neighborhoods. There are "free" tours, but none in French. Does anyone have a guide to recommend so we can really get to know the city beyond just the architecture?
Thanks
Hi there,
I’m desperately looking for info on the schedules and routes of (shared) boats to visit the islands of Lake Titicaca.
From what I’ve found, there’s a *combi* (bus) that leaves from Puno to go to Llachon. Where do you catch it? What are the schedules and frequency? Does it take about 1 hour?
Then in Llachon, you can take a boat to Amantani (45 min). Same question—where do you check for frequency and schedule? After that, from Amantani, boats go to Taquile and then Uros. Do you have enough time to visit the islands between two boats? Frequency and schedule?
The goal is to do this tour independently (no agency) over 2 days. Thanks for any tips you might have!
Then in Llachon, you can take a boat to Amantani (45 min). Same question—where do you check for frequency and schedule? After that, from Amantani, boats go to Taquile and then Uros. Do you have enough time to visit the islands between two boats? Frequency and schedule?
The goal is to do this tour independently (no agency) over 2 days. Thanks for any tips you might have!
Hey everyone,
I just got back from a trip to Bolivia and wow—what a wake-up call. It’s not the easiest country, but it’s absolutely stunning.
I started with Isla del Sol, perfect for easing into the altitude at a relaxed pace. Try to stay in the northern part of the island—it’s quieter and the views are insane. And the trout there? Unreal. Quick tip: bring cash in small bills; they almost never have change, and cards are rarely accepted.
Next up, La Paz. The city’s pretty wild, built in every direction. I did a few hikes in the area, including the famous Charquini Lagoon (the blue lake) at over 5,000 m—let’s just say I struggled 😅 but it was so beautiful it was totally worth it.
After that, I headed to Sajama. It’s cool, especially for the hot springs, and I stayed in Tomarapi. But honestly, if you’re short on time, you can skip it without too many regrets.
The highlight of the trip: the Salar. I did it starting from Tupiza, and I *highly* recommend going Tupiza → Uyuni. Way less crowded at the start and the landscapes are super varied. For the tour, I used SplitYourGuide to find a group, and it worked out great. Super handy for splitting costs and meeting people.
I wrapped up in Sucre—this city is gorgeous, all white, with such a chill vibe. And the salteñas + ice cream? Next level 😋
Bottom line: Bolivia’s a bit rough around the edges, sometimes exhausting (shoutout to the altitude), but it’s 1000% worth it.
If you’ve got questions or need tips, I’m happy to help! Martin
I just got back from a trip to Bolivia and wow—what a wake-up call. It’s not the easiest country, but it’s absolutely stunning.
I started with Isla del Sol, perfect for easing into the altitude at a relaxed pace. Try to stay in the northern part of the island—it’s quieter and the views are insane. And the trout there? Unreal. Quick tip: bring cash in small bills; they almost never have change, and cards are rarely accepted.
Next up, La Paz. The city’s pretty wild, built in every direction. I did a few hikes in the area, including the famous Charquini Lagoon (the blue lake) at over 5,000 m—let’s just say I struggled 😅 but it was so beautiful it was totally worth it.
After that, I headed to Sajama. It’s cool, especially for the hot springs, and I stayed in Tomarapi. But honestly, if you’re short on time, you can skip it without too many regrets.
The highlight of the trip: the Salar. I did it starting from Tupiza, and I *highly* recommend going Tupiza → Uyuni. Way less crowded at the start and the landscapes are super varied. For the tour, I used SplitYourGuide to find a group, and it worked out great. Super handy for splitting costs and meeting people.
I wrapped up in Sucre—this city is gorgeous, all white, with such a chill vibe. And the salteñas + ice cream? Next level 😋
Bottom line: Bolivia’s a bit rough around the edges, sometimes exhausting (shoutout to the altitude), but it’s 1000% worth it.
If you’ve got questions or need tips, I’m happy to help! Martin
hi,
I was planning to go to Réunion and stay in half-board accommodation with non-professionals, but it seems that’s not really the custom there—or maybe my budget isn’t big enough.
So, since I’ve already traveled around Ecuador and Peru, I’m now looking at Argentina, especially for its mountains (like the ones in Réunion that tempted me, even though—frustratingly—I could only admire them from below).
I plan to get around by bus and don’t know in advance where I’ll sleep, so I won’t book ahead. If I like a place, I might stay for several days.
I know that in Chile, it’s easy to find half-board accommodation, but what about in Argentina?
I’d like to stay with locals in half-board without it being a professional setup. I’m not sure if this is common practice there. It’s up to me to find someone willing to host me. What do you think? What would be a fair price (keeping in mind that 40 to 50 € is the max I can spend on accommodation, breakfast, and dinner)?
Looking forward to your feedback.
Best regards,
I was planning to go to Réunion and stay in half-board accommodation with non-professionals, but it seems that’s not really the custom there—or maybe my budget isn’t big enough.
So, since I’ve already traveled around Ecuador and Peru, I’m now looking at Argentina, especially for its mountains (like the ones in Réunion that tempted me, even though—frustratingly—I could only admire them from below).
I plan to get around by bus and don’t know in advance where I’ll sleep, so I won’t book ahead. If I like a place, I might stay for several days.
I know that in Chile, it’s easy to find half-board accommodation, but what about in Argentina?
I’d like to stay with locals in half-board without it being a professional setup. I’m not sure if this is common practice there. It’s up to me to find someone willing to host me. What do you think? What would be a fair price (keeping in mind that 40 to 50 € is the max I can spend on accommodation, breakfast, and dinner)?
Looking forward to your feedback.
Best regards,
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Patagonia for three weeks in November, starting from Coyhaique in Chile.
We won’t have a car, and I’m struggling to find information about transportation options for a few parts of the itinerary we’d like to do:
1) From Perito Moreno (the town, near Los Antiguos), we’d like to travel down Ruta 40 to visit Perito Moreno National Park and then cross into Chile via the Paso Roballos (at the latitude of Bajo Caracoles) to reach the road to Cochrane. Without a car, it seems we’ll need to use private agencies to get to the national park—do you have any recommendations or suggestions? Also, does anyone know if it’s possible to cross into Chile via Paso Roballos (from Bajo Caracoles) without a rental car? That is, without having to go all the way down to El Chaltén or back up toward Perito Moreno/Los Antiguos, etc.?
2) The second stretch that seems a bit tricky (though still easier, in theory) is from Caleta Tortel to Villa O’Higgins on the Chilean side. Do we have to go back through Cochrane, or are there ways to get directly from Tortel to Villa O’Higgins?
3) Finally, we’d like to hike into Argentina (El Chaltén) from O’Higgins. Any recommendations for this? Do we need to go through an agency? What’s the estimated duration of the trek?
As you’ve probably gathered, we want to visit some off-the-beaten-path spots but don’t have a car, so we’re looking for the best possible compromises.
Thanks so much in advance for all your suggestions! Thomas
1) From Perito Moreno (the town, near Los Antiguos), we’d like to travel down Ruta 40 to visit Perito Moreno National Park and then cross into Chile via the Paso Roballos (at the latitude of Bajo Caracoles) to reach the road to Cochrane. Without a car, it seems we’ll need to use private agencies to get to the national park—do you have any recommendations or suggestions? Also, does anyone know if it’s possible to cross into Chile via Paso Roballos (from Bajo Caracoles) without a rental car? That is, without having to go all the way down to El Chaltén or back up toward Perito Moreno/Los Antiguos, etc.?
2) The second stretch that seems a bit tricky (though still easier, in theory) is from Caleta Tortel to Villa O’Higgins on the Chilean side. Do we have to go back through Cochrane, or are there ways to get directly from Tortel to Villa O’Higgins?
3) Finally, we’d like to hike into Argentina (El Chaltén) from O’Higgins. Any recommendations for this? Do we need to go through an agency? What’s the estimated duration of the trek?
As you’ve probably gathered, we want to visit some off-the-beaten-path spots but don’t have a car, so we’re looking for the best possible compromises.
Thanks so much in advance for all your suggestions! Thomas
Hi,
we’re planning a round trip from San Pedro de Atacama, Chile, to Salta, Argentina, in two months. On the way there, we’ll take the northern route via Susques, Route 27, then 52. But for the return, we were thinking of taking the southern route via San Antonio de los Cobres, Route 51, then 23. Is it similar to the northern route in terms of road surface? How busy is it, and are there gas stations? Basically, should we be worried about doing it in an SUV that’s supposedly 4x4 but has regular road tires and no second spare wheel, obviously...
I’ve seen that we can stop over in San Antonio de los Cobres.
Thanks for your feedback.
Raf.
Hi,
we’ll be in Calama at the end of March 2026, and I’m looking for a reliable car rental there for a 7-day road trip to Salta, Argentina. But I’m struggling with the car rental agencies in Calama because the reviews can be scary. I saw Gyg, which has great ratings, but I’m a bit wary (5/5 from 59 reviews—either the guy’s amazing or it’s fake...), but I can’t find any recent reviews on VF in general.
For Punta Arenas, I booked with Dachelet and didn’t have any issues with email exchanges.
Thanks in advance.
Raf.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning the trip of my dreams for next November—Chile! I’d love to get your thoughts on my potential itinerary. I know it’s a big investment in terms of both time and money, so every bit of feedback, suggestion, or info helps immensely. Thank you in advance!!
1-Flight to Santiago
2-Explore Santiago
3-Explore Santiago
4-Bus from STG to Valpo (2h) + visit Valparaíso + night in Viña
5-Visit Valparaíso + bus back to STG (2h)
6-Flight to Calama + bus to San Pedro + explore and acclimate in San Pedro + car rental in the afternoon (+Chaxa?)
7-(Very early) Valle del Arcoíris + Laguna Cejar + Valle de la Luna
8-Laguna Miñiques & Miscanti + Salar de Talar + Laguna Tuyajto
9-Geysers El Tatio early in the morning + Cañón de Guatín + return car
10-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
11-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
12-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
13-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni + return to San Pedro for the night
14-Bus to Calama + flight Calama-La Serena + explore La Serena
15-Excursion to Reserva Pingüino + bonus time (sunset at Playa Tongoy or elsewhere...)
16-Rent a car in Pisco Elqui & Vicuña + Observatory
17-Return car in La Serena + flight Santiago & Puerto Montt (4h)
18-Rent a 4x2 car + drive to Temuco (4h)
19-Reserva Nacional Malalcahuello + hike + night in Temuco
20-Parque Nacional Conguillío then drive and night in Pucón
21-Villarrica Volcano
22-Parque Huerquehue
23-Activities on-site
24-Drive to Valdivia + explore and night there
25-Drive to Puerto Varas (via Frutillar, etc.) + activities on-site
26-Salto Las Cascadas + Parque Nacional Vicente Pérez Rosales (Salto del Petrohué) + Canoeing/Rafting?
27-Drive to Parque Alerce Andino (round trip 3h) + hike Sendero Sargazo?
28-Drive to Castro + explore Chiloé and night in Castro
29-Explore Chiloé
30-Explore Chiloé + return to Puerto Varas
31-Drive to Cochamó (1h30) + drive to Hornopirén (2h30)
32-Ferry to Caleta Gonzalo + drive to Chaitén (1h20)
33-Parque Nacional Pumalín, night in Chaitén
34-Drive to Puyuhuapi + Sendero Ventisquero Yelcho?
35-Ventisquero Colgante + drive to Coyhaique
36-Drive to Villa Cerro Castillo
37-Hike Cerro Castillo
38-Drive to Puerto Río Tranquilo
39-Excursion to Glaciar Exploradores
40-Mármol Cathedral + lake activities
41-Drive to Cochrane
42-Parque Patagonia
43-Drive to Chile Chico
44-Ferry Chile Chico-Ibañez + drive to Coyhaique + drop off car
45-Flight to Punta Arenas (1h30) + explore the city
46-Rent a car + drive to Puerto Natales
47-Drive to Torres del Paine in the morning + hike to the base of the towers (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
48-Torres del Paine hike 2 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
49-Torres del Paine hike 3 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
50-Drive to Punta Arenas
51-Flight Punta Arenas-Santiago + flight Santiago-Buenos Aires (2h)
52-Explore Buenos Aires
53-Explore Buenos Aires
54-Explore Buenos Aires
55-Flight back to France
I’m planning the trip of my dreams for next November—Chile! I’d love to get your thoughts on my potential itinerary. I know it’s a big investment in terms of both time and money, so every bit of feedback, suggestion, or info helps immensely. Thank you in advance!!
1-Flight to Santiago
2-Explore Santiago
3-Explore Santiago
4-Bus from STG to Valpo (2h) + visit Valparaíso + night in Viña
5-Visit Valparaíso + bus back to STG (2h)
6-Flight to Calama + bus to San Pedro + explore and acclimate in San Pedro + car rental in the afternoon (+Chaxa?)
7-(Very early) Valle del Arcoíris + Laguna Cejar + Valle de la Luna
8-Laguna Miñiques & Miscanti + Salar de Talar + Laguna Tuyajto
9-Geysers El Tatio early in the morning + Cañón de Guatín + return car
10-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
11-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
12-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
13-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni + return to San Pedro for the night
14-Bus to Calama + flight Calama-La Serena + explore La Serena
15-Excursion to Reserva Pingüino + bonus time (sunset at Playa Tongoy or elsewhere...)
16-Rent a car in Pisco Elqui & Vicuña + Observatory
17-Return car in La Serena + flight Santiago & Puerto Montt (4h)
18-Rent a 4x2 car + drive to Temuco (4h)
19-Reserva Nacional Malalcahuello + hike + night in Temuco
20-Parque Nacional Conguillío then drive and night in Pucón
21-Villarrica Volcano
22-Parque Huerquehue
23-Activities on-site
24-Drive to Valdivia + explore and night there
25-Drive to Puerto Varas (via Frutillar, etc.) + activities on-site
26-Salto Las Cascadas + Parque Nacional Vicente Pérez Rosales (Salto del Petrohué) + Canoeing/Rafting?
27-Drive to Parque Alerce Andino (round trip 3h) + hike Sendero Sargazo?
28-Drive to Castro + explore Chiloé and night in Castro
29-Explore Chiloé
30-Explore Chiloé + return to Puerto Varas
31-Drive to Cochamó (1h30) + drive to Hornopirén (2h30)
32-Ferry to Caleta Gonzalo + drive to Chaitén (1h20)
33-Parque Nacional Pumalín, night in Chaitén
34-Drive to Puyuhuapi + Sendero Ventisquero Yelcho?
35-Ventisquero Colgante + drive to Coyhaique
36-Drive to Villa Cerro Castillo
37-Hike Cerro Castillo
38-Drive to Puerto Río Tranquilo
39-Excursion to Glaciar Exploradores
40-Mármol Cathedral + lake activities
41-Drive to Cochrane
42-Parque Patagonia
43-Drive to Chile Chico
44-Ferry Chile Chico-Ibañez + drive to Coyhaique + drop off car
45-Flight to Punta Arenas (1h30) + explore the city
46-Rent a car + drive to Puerto Natales
47-Drive to Torres del Paine in the morning + hike to the base of the towers (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
48-Torres del Paine hike 2 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
49-Torres del Paine hike 3 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
50-Drive to Punta Arenas
51-Flight Punta Arenas-Santiago + flight Santiago-Buenos Aires (2h)
52-Explore Buenos Aires
53-Explore Buenos Aires
54-Explore Buenos Aires
55-Flight back to France
Good evening,
We’d love to go in November to enjoy some beautiful beaches for about two weeks, preferably around Bahia, as November/December seems like a great time.
We’ve already traveled to Brazil several times and know the south of Rio as well as the region between São Luís and Fortaleza, and Chapada Diamantina...
What advice would you give us: the south with Itaparica, Morro de São Paulo, Boipeba, Barra Grande—or all four? Or maybe the north?
Thanks in advance for your help
Hi everyone, it’s been a while since I last posted!
First time in South America for me, my wife, and our 7-year-old son. I’ve put together this itinerary and would love to hear your thoughts:
Bogotá 28/07 – 30/07: Arrival. Which neighborhood and outings would you recommend? Flight to
2 Filandia 30/07 – 03/08: (255 €). Waterfalls and horseback riding, Cocora Valley, Hiking, Nearby villages. Flight to 3 Tayrona 03/08 – 07/08: Hotel La Casablanca
Hike with Tierra Nevada and the Kogui village (any feedback?). Return by inner tube for the little one. Short night hike. Second hike to La Piscina, etc., return by 🐎.
4 Cartagena 07/08 – 10/08: Air-conditioned bus. Staying in Getsemaní? Mangroves & the Castle, exploring the city.
5 Bogotá 10/08 – 12/08
Feel free to share your feedback! Have a great day!
Seb
First time in South America for me, my wife, and our 7-year-old son. I’ve put together this itinerary and would love to hear your thoughts:
Bogotá 28/07 – 30/07: Arrival. Which neighborhood and outings would you recommend? Flight to
2 Filandia 30/07 – 03/08: (255 €). Waterfalls and horseback riding, Cocora Valley, Hiking, Nearby villages. Flight to 3 Tayrona 03/08 – 07/08: Hotel La Casablanca
Hike with Tierra Nevada and the Kogui village (any feedback?). Return by inner tube for the little one. Short night hike. Second hike to La Piscina, etc., return by 🐎.
4 Cartagena 07/08 – 10/08: Air-conditioned bus. Staying in Getsemaní? Mangroves & the Castle, exploring the city.
5 Bogotá 10/08 – 12/08
Feel free to share your feedback! Have a great day!
Seb
Hi,
During an upcoming trip to Peru, we’ll have one day to explore around Arequipa (excluding Colca Canyon) with a car and driver.
We’ve got a few options:
- Toro Muerto petroglyphs and dinosaur footprints at Querulpa
- Ruta del Sillar and Quebrada de Culebrillas
What do you think? Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance! Larri
What do you think? Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance! Larri
We’re a group of 6 friends with an average age of 70, all mobile, and we’re planning a trip to Peru in September/October 2026. Below is an idea of what we’re looking for: a French-speaking guide, accommodation in 3-star hotels or homestays with comfort.
Duration: 16 to 20 days on-site.
Visit the main sites with immersion in the culture and way of life.
Which francophone agency in Peru would you recommend? Thanks