Bons plans visites et hébergement pour 15 jours au Maroc
by Lilitoulouse
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour,
Avec mon copain on se lance à la découverte du Maroc 15 jours en septembre. Habituée des hôtels club Fram, avec papa maman, nous aimerions partir cette fois en « routard » pour découvrir plus de pays, en prendre plein les yeux, sans suivre de trop prêt les foules de touristes et bien entendu tout cela pour pas cher ! On arrive et repart de Marrakech. Nous pensions faire un mini « circuit » en bus (ou autre ?) Ourzazate, fès, Casablanca, Essaouira et retour avec 3 jours plus tranquilles sur Marrakech. Je suis donc à la recherche de bons plans hébergements, visites / excursions sachant qu’on est pas super sportif mais qu’on reste volontaire, qu’on est jeune (25 ans) et amoureux !!! je suis à l’écoute de tous vos bons conseils ! Merci d’avance…
D'ici septembre tu as le temps de te procurer et potasser un ou 2 guides: lonely Planet ou Routard, pour les itinéraires et les hébergeemnts, et pourquoi pas un guide plus culturel hachette, bleu, pour les sites et les visites.
jette un coup d'oeil sur www.marocensolitaire.com et www.shergui.com, 2 sites pour visiter le Maroc simplement de l'intérieur.
Votre itinéraire n'est pas encore très net : pourquoi Ouarzazate tout seul ??? à voir.
Sinon toutes les villes citées sont reliées par beaucoup de bus ou de trains, donc pas de souci de ce coté.
A ta disposition quand le projet prendra forme. ton plan est plaisant, c'est une bonne démarche, de jeune et d'amoureux!
Merci pour ton aide !
Je potasse le guide du routard en ce moment mais entre ce qui est dit et la réalité je voulais l'avis de gens qui sont partis... Pour Ouarzazate, on comptait bien faire visites au alentour mais aucune idée des tarifs donc c'est un peu chaud pour se décider justement. Pareil pour les bus. Je n'ai aucune idée du temps qu'il nous faudra pour aller d'un point à un autre, et pas d'idée de budget non plus. Je jette un oeil sur les sites que tu me donnes.
Pour ce qui est de l'organisation, je jubile à l'idée de faire des propositions sympas à mon chéri (avant lui) pour lui montrer que je peux me débrouiller en routarde de choc ! 😉
Je vais t'aider à passer pour une flèche auprès de ton homme:
Quelques chiffres: pour les bus, ils roulent entre 40 et 50 km/h de moyenne, un peu plus en plaine, et ils coutent environ 3 euros (30 dh) pour 100 km, Ex Marrakech Ouarzazate 4h30, 6, 5 euros. Le train c'est à peu près pareil. va voir www.oncf.ma, attention sur ce site tu pourrais croire qu'il existe des gares partout, car ils mélangent des lignes d'autocars, les vraies gares sur ton périple sont : Fes, Meknes, Rabat, Casa, Marrakech. Ex Fes Marrakech 8h 17 euros
Tu peux dormir dans une double correcte pour 15 à 20 euros par nuit, parfois moins, un repas routard coute de 1, 5 à 5 euros.
le routard me gonfle un peu, trop de mises en garde qui inquiètent à tort, et la part belle aux établissements "tenus par des francais" mais quand on a réussi le décoder, il y a une mine de renseignements. le LP me plait mieux.
Et maintenant pour les km, il va falloir te trouver une michelin 742.
maintenant au boulot!
Quelques chiffres: pour les bus, ils roulent entre 40 et 50 km/h de moyenne, un peu plus en plaine, et ils coutent environ 3 euros (30 dh) pour 100 km, Ex Marrakech Ouarzazate 4h30, 6, 5 euros. Le train c'est à peu près pareil. va voir www.oncf.ma, attention sur ce site tu pourrais croire qu'il existe des gares partout, car ils mélangent des lignes d'autocars, les vraies gares sur ton périple sont : Fes, Meknes, Rabat, Casa, Marrakech. Ex Fes Marrakech 8h 17 euros
Tu peux dormir dans une double correcte pour 15 à 20 euros par nuit, parfois moins, un repas routard coute de 1, 5 à 5 euros.
le routard me gonfle un peu, trop de mises en garde qui inquiètent à tort, et la part belle aux établissements "tenus par des francais" mais quand on a réussi le décoder, il y a une mine de renseignements. le LP me plait mieux.
Et maintenant pour les km, il va falloir te trouver une michelin 742.
maintenant au boulot!
Merci pour cette aide précieuse. je vais pouvoir me faire une idée de budget. Côté distances kilomètriques, sur le Routard il manque la moitié des infos. J'ai cherché sur le net mais je n'ai pas su trouver d'indication sauf Meknès casa 231 km et Essaouira Marrakech 171 km. Connais tu un site où ce type d'infos est fournies ?
Encore une petite question pour toi qui a l'air de bien connaitre, maintenant que nous sommes quasiment fixé sur l'itinéraire (Marrakech - Ouarzazate - Fès - Meknès - Casa - Essaouira - Marrakech) qu'est-il important de ne pas rater dans les alentours de ces villes? Connais -tu des trucs sympas à faire ? J'aurais bien fait un petit bivoic dans le dessert mais ca m'a l'air un peu ruch quand même, non ? Ou une méharées, dormir dans le desert...
Je vais essayé d'approfondir la visiste des sites que tu m'as donné en attendant tes précisions.
Du maroc je ne connais pour l'instant que la plage et le shopping et j'ai pu faire quelques excursions autour d'Agadir. Un peu de dépaysement nous fera le plus grand bien ! Mais j'ai vraiment été charmé par le maroc toutes les fois où j'ai pu y aller et les marocains sont vraiment très sympas. Encore merci !!!
pour les distances, rien ne vaut une bonne carte michelin.
Attention ! Sur 2 semaines en transports locaux, il faut faire un choix!
Soit désert et le sud, soit Fes meknes et le nord, mais pas les 2! Chaque déplacement occupe la journée meme pour 200 km: aller à la gare ou à la gare routière, attendre le bon bus, la route longue, trouver un hébergement!
Et si tu fais le circuit que tu dis, Ouarzazate est totalement inutile ! cette ville ne vaut pas un clou, et ne sert que de carrefour pour aller plus loin, vers de beaux sites. Exemple : Marrakech 2 jours Train Marrakech fes 1 jour Fes 2 jours Train Fes Meknes 1/2 jour Meknes 1 jour Train Meknes Rabat 1/2 jour Rabat 1 jour train Rabat Casa 1/2 jour Casa 1 jour Bus Casa Essaouir 1 jour Essaouira 2 jours Essaouira Marrakech 1/2 jour Marrakech 1 jour et avion C'EST FINI !!!!!!!!!!!!
Et tu n'as meme pas eu le temps de faire des "alentours" pourtant nombreux !
Continue à potasser et on en recause.
Attention ! Sur 2 semaines en transports locaux, il faut faire un choix!
Soit désert et le sud, soit Fes meknes et le nord, mais pas les 2! Chaque déplacement occupe la journée meme pour 200 km: aller à la gare ou à la gare routière, attendre le bon bus, la route longue, trouver un hébergement!
Et si tu fais le circuit que tu dis, Ouarzazate est totalement inutile ! cette ville ne vaut pas un clou, et ne sert que de carrefour pour aller plus loin, vers de beaux sites. Exemple : Marrakech 2 jours Train Marrakech fes 1 jour Fes 2 jours Train Fes Meknes 1/2 jour Meknes 1 jour Train Meknes Rabat 1/2 jour Rabat 1 jour train Rabat Casa 1/2 jour Casa 1 jour Bus Casa Essaouir 1 jour Essaouira 2 jours Essaouira Marrakech 1/2 jour Marrakech 1 jour et avion C'EST FINI !!!!!!!!!!!!
Et tu n'as meme pas eu le temps de faire des "alentours" pourtant nombreux !
Continue à potasser et on en recause.
Ou arretes de potasser et improvise une fois la bas.Si tu veux etre routard suis pas les adresses du routard, souvent tout y est plus cher (par exemple si 2 chambres ont les memes qualités mais l'une est reférencé dans le routard elle sera plus cher et NON négociable, enfin c'est une experience personnelle, j'ai souvent trouvé moins cher que dans le routard mais ca demande un peu plus d'energie).En 15 jours Marrakech-Essaouira-Tafraout-M'hamid top 😎
à marrakech : jardin majorelle et les souks
autour de Marrakech : cascades d'ouzoud (indiquées ds le Lp), paysages magnifiques, à ne pas manquer ! sur place tu px manger pr rien du tout. trajet assez long (ya 170 km de marrakech), vallée de l'Ourika, belle route, beaux paysages.
dans la médina tu trouves facilement des chambres doubles en riad (modets, pas le grand luxe) pour 10 € la nuit
tu as raison de vouloir aller à ouarzazate : c'est au carrefour stratégique entre les gorges du dadès et celles du Drââ donc bon point de départ pour les rando ds le désert, même si la ville en elle-même ne présente pas grand intérêt. de là tu px aller à zagora (4h +/- 40 Dh).
pr le désert les prix commencent à 300Dh par pers et par jour
à essaouira, il y a tout à voir : la ville est magnifique, les souks sont calmes, le port est joli aussi, avec tous les bateaux en bleu également (à voir : les pêcheurs qui déchargent les bateaux)
bon voyage 🙂
ANITAH
bon voyage 🙂
ANITAH
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je reviens du maroc ...nous sommes partis 15 jours en formule roots...à la découverte de l'autre etc. Il y a tjrs moyen de trouver sur place mais cela dépend de ce que tu as envie hotel bien...ou chambre avec une vue sublime toilette à la turque et douche froide, matelas au sol ? et attention en 15 jours cela passe très vite mais c déjà bien souvent on croit rester 1 jours à un endroit et de fil en aiguille on reste 3 /4 jours!! parce qu'il faut bouger sinon 5/6 jours au même endroit
Affine ta question c tres vaste ...
Merci Anitah !
effectivement pour Ouarzazate c'est comme celà que je le voyais : un point de départ pour de belles excurtions... A ce sujet, comment rejoindre les gorges du dadès et celles du Drââ ? Y a des bus ou mieux vaut-il passer par une agence sur place ? T'as des contacts à me recommander ? Une idée de tarif ?
Idem pour le logement sachant que sur 14 nuits on se contentera de 10 nuits "normales" disons une chambre qui peu être simple mais restant propre et qu'on veut se faire plaisir avec 4 ou 5 nuits un peu "magiques" dans un riad avec un peu plus de charme (restera à trouver un très bon compromis côté prix). Cependant si tu as des adresses pleines de charme, ne dépassant pas les 20 / 30€ la nuit n'hésites pas à me les communiquer, nous étudierons la question une fois sur place !!!
bonjour,
je prépare moi aussi un voyage en routard. j'ai le geoguide qui m'aide mais certaines questions restes sans réponse: comment faire pour visiter les gorges du dardes ou autres sans louer une voiture? Je vais voyager seule et j'aimerai retrouver sur place de petits groupes de touristes pour faire des rando avec un guide, cela vous semble possible? Sinon, si vous avez des bon plans: agences de voyages sur place, hotels pas cher mais propres, guides etc, je suis prenneuse merçi!
karen menara_peche@yahoo.fr
je prépare moi aussi un voyage en routard. j'ai le geoguide qui m'aide mais certaines questions restes sans réponse: comment faire pour visiter les gorges du dardes ou autres sans louer une voiture? Je vais voyager seule et j'aimerai retrouver sur place de petits groupes de touristes pour faire des rando avec un guide, cela vous semble possible? Sinon, si vous avez des bon plans: agences de voyages sur place, hotels pas cher mais propres, guides etc, je suis prenneuse merçi!
karen menara_peche@yahoo.fr
menara
Salut, je vais passer 15 jours au Maroc en mai et je voulais savoir si tu avais quelques conseils èa me donner sur les routes et le temps entre les villes. Nous croyons faire un e boucle en passant par Casa, Essaouira, Marrakech, Cascades Douzoud, Ouarzazate, Vallée du Dades, Gorge de Todra, Erfoud, Merzouga, Fes, Meknes, Chefchaouen, Rabat, Casablanca.
Merci!
Pour l'habillement, pour une femme, quels vetements me conseille tu d'emmener dans mon pack-sac?
Marie-Eve
Merci!
Pour l'habillement, pour une femme, quels vetements me conseille tu d'emmener dans mon pack-sac?
Marie-Eve
Coooooool ! Raoul ce n'était pas du tout agressif, moi aussi je prepare soigneusement mes voyages et ça n'a rien de honteux, quand j'écris vive l'Afrique ça veut dire que sur place c'est beaucoup plus imprevisible et que ça fait l'interêt du truc . Preparer c'est déjà le plaisir de partir mais se fier à des renseignements precis en Afrique et compter dessus comme si c'était imparable, méfiance ; les experiences des uns, le temps passant deviennent plus aléatoires, mais y'a tjs des solutions . Bon et beau voyage à vous deux et je l'écris avec toute cordialité .
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We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
A lot of people find it important to stick to their budget when traveling—not to skimp, but to visit as many places as possible since traveling is their hobby.
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
