Je suis au Brésil depuis un peu plus de 4 mois. J ai bénéficié des 3 mois légaux et je suis allée à la Police Fédérale avant le terme des 3 mois pour pouvoir obtenir un visa de 90 jours mais là, surprise, je n'ai pas eu droit à 90 jours supplémentaires car ayant déjà séjourné au Brésil 3 mois (entre décembre 2006 et février 2007), j'avais épuisé mes droits de séjour (180 jours par an). Le gentil fonctionnaire de la PF m'a finalement donné un visa de 60 jours... qui se termine donc à la fin du mois ! Aie ! Mon billet de retour est pour début mars... Que me conseillez-vous pour pouvoir rester au Brésil jusqu'à cette date? Merci de votre aide !
Brésil: visa arrivant à expiration (urgent)
by Brasillika
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Avis à tous les connaisseurs de trucs pour pouvoir rester dans un pays étranger tout en ayant un visa arrivant à expiration...
Je suis au Brésil depuis un peu plus de 4 mois. J ai bénéficié des 3 mois légaux et je suis allée à la Police Fédérale avant le terme des 3 mois pour pouvoir obtenir un visa de 90 jours mais là, surprise, je n'ai pas eu droit à 90 jours supplémentaires car ayant déjà séjourné au Brésil 3 mois (entre décembre 2006 et février 2007), j'avais épuisé mes droits de séjour (180 jours par an). Le gentil fonctionnaire de la PF m'a finalement donné un visa de 60 jours... qui se termine donc à la fin du mois ! Aie ! Mon billet de retour est pour début mars... Que me conseillez-vous pour pouvoir rester au Brésil jusqu'à cette date? Merci de votre aide !
Je suis au Brésil depuis un peu plus de 4 mois. J ai bénéficié des 3 mois légaux et je suis allée à la Police Fédérale avant le terme des 3 mois pour pouvoir obtenir un visa de 90 jours mais là, surprise, je n'ai pas eu droit à 90 jours supplémentaires car ayant déjà séjourné au Brésil 3 mois (entre décembre 2006 et février 2007), j'avais épuisé mes droits de séjour (180 jours par an). Le gentil fonctionnaire de la PF m'a finalement donné un visa de 60 jours... qui se termine donc à la fin du mois ! Aie ! Mon billet de retour est pour début mars... Que me conseillez-vous pour pouvoir rester au Brésil jusqu'à cette date? Merci de votre aide !
"L'esprit a beau faire plus de chemin que le coeur, il ne va jamais aussi loin" (Proverbe chinois)
BOM DIA
Pour ton problème, soit tu passes une frontière (tu peux le faire dans la journée) style Argentine, bolivie, paraguay....tout dépend où tu te trouves. Tu auras le droit du coup de rester 3 mois de plus au Brésil (je l'ai fait)
Soit tu restes quand même mais tu paieras une taxe en sortant, (ça peut vite faire dans les 200 euros, à mon avis) et tu n'auras plus le droit d'aller au brésil pendant 180 jours je crois.
Voilà! bon courage!
Merci pour ta réponse, Pandura. J'ai oublié de préciser dans mon message (écrit à la hâte) que je voulais éviter d'avoir à sortir du pays (je sais que ça limite considérablement les possibilités) en raison des prix exorbitants des billets d'avion à la période en question. Je suis loin de toute frontière et, à l'approche du Carnaval, les prix flambent... et mon porte-monnaie commence à flamber aussi ! Donc si d'autres solutions vous viennent à l'idée, n'hésitez pas à m'en faire part. Perdre son passeport par exemple a-t-il fait ses preuves parmi vous?
"L'esprit a beau faire plus de chemin que le coeur, il ne va jamais aussi loin" (Proverbe chinois)
Jouer à la roulette Russe est votre spécialité.......moi pas.....abandonner l'idée de passer une journée dans un pays limitrophe, vous risquez d'être refoulé purement et simplement du Brésil.....
ensuite Pandura, avant d'affirmer certaines choses, tu devrais décrire ton cas plus explicitement, pour voir si ce que tu dis est compatible ou pas.
1° tous le monde peut venir au Brésil sans visa pour une durée de 3 mois, ensuite 8 jours avant l'écheance de ces 3 mois, il est possible de solliciter une visa de tourisme de 90 jours qui viendra s'ajouter aux 3 mois, contre le paiement d'une taxe de 25 reals, la demande se faisant auprés de la Police Federale, au bureau des passeports et le visa est délivré dans la foulé, si le dossier est complet.
2° Durant les 3 mois, auquel on aura éventuellement rajouté 90 jours (visa de tourisme) le touriste peut rentrer et sortir autant de fois qu'il veut du Brésil. exemple : je reste 1 mois au Brésil, je pars 2 mois en Argentine en solde il me reste encore 2 mois d'autorisé dans le cadre du premier séjour par contre dans le cadre des 90 jours en complément, le visa comporte une date de début et une date de fin, donc, il n'y aura pas de report des jours non consommé. Aprés un premier séjour au Brésil, si tout a été consommé en temps légal de séjour et de visa, vous ne pouvez pas revenir au Brésil avant un minimun de 180 jours...
3° l'amende pour dépassement de temps de séjour est de 330 reals de 0 à 30 jours et ensuite 8 reals par jours, avec un maximun d'amende de 800 reals soit 300 euros environ.. L'amende est délivré à l'aeroport, avant embarquement et payable immédiatement auprés de la PF de l'aéroport, sinon quoi, votre départ ne pourra pas se faire.
ensuite Pandura, avant d'affirmer certaines choses, tu devrais décrire ton cas plus explicitement, pour voir si ce que tu dis est compatible ou pas.
1° tous le monde peut venir au Brésil sans visa pour une durée de 3 mois, ensuite 8 jours avant l'écheance de ces 3 mois, il est possible de solliciter une visa de tourisme de 90 jours qui viendra s'ajouter aux 3 mois, contre le paiement d'une taxe de 25 reals, la demande se faisant auprés de la Police Federale, au bureau des passeports et le visa est délivré dans la foulé, si le dossier est complet.
2° Durant les 3 mois, auquel on aura éventuellement rajouté 90 jours (visa de tourisme) le touriste peut rentrer et sortir autant de fois qu'il veut du Brésil. exemple : je reste 1 mois au Brésil, je pars 2 mois en Argentine en solde il me reste encore 2 mois d'autorisé dans le cadre du premier séjour par contre dans le cadre des 90 jours en complément, le visa comporte une date de début et une date de fin, donc, il n'y aura pas de report des jours non consommé. Aprés un premier séjour au Brésil, si tout a été consommé en temps légal de séjour et de visa, vous ne pouvez pas revenir au Brésil avant un minimun de 180 jours...
3° l'amende pour dépassement de temps de séjour est de 330 reals de 0 à 30 jours et ensuite 8 reals par jours, avec un maximun d'amende de 800 reals soit 300 euros environ.. L'amende est délivré à l'aeroport, avant embarquement et payable immédiatement auprés de la PF de l'aéroport, sinon quoi, votre départ ne pourra pas se faire.
Oi,
j'arrive juste sur ce forum. j'ai été dans ce cas. je suis allée à iguacu, pris le "pont de l'amitié" pour le paraguay et revenue au brésil (temps : 3 h) mais tu peux le faire avec un autre pays frontalier. soit tu restes dans l'illégalité, je les fait aussi, et là tu es redevable d'une amende de 7 reals par jour env. que j'ai du payer lors de mon départ pour la france. soit tu la payes (à l'aéroport et en liquide) et tu reviens quand tu veux au brésil soit tu ne la payes pas (tu as le DROIT aussi) mais tu ne pourras plus remettre les pieds au brésil. dernière solution, tu te maries avec une brésilien(ne). boa sorte...
Merci beaucoup pour ta réponse ! La sortie de territoire et le mariage paraissent donc être les seules solutions légales... Le défi est donc désormais de trouver un vol pas cher pour un pays frontalier ! J'y cours !
"L'esprit a beau faire plus de chemin que le coeur, il ne va jamais aussi loin" (Proverbe chinois)
Belle histoire ! Je ne compte pas non plus lâcher le Brésil comme ça ! Comme tu dis, quand on a le Brésil dans la peau... Merci pour tes encouragements, ça redonne l'énergie suffisante pour aller de l'avant. Bonne continuation à toi et à ton petit Brésilien ! Boa sorte e muito axé !!!
"L'esprit a beau faire plus de chemin que le coeur, il ne va jamais aussi loin" (Proverbe chinois)
bonsoir...votre conversation me redonne du baume au coeur. En fait, je suis en quête de solution. Je suis arrivée au brésil le 11JUILLET2007 aprés l'écoulement de mes trois mois réglementaires, j'ai demandé une prolongation de 90 jours au-près de la police fédérale sur place que j'ai obtenu sans problème. Le 1er janvier 2008, je suis rentrée en France car mon visa touchait à sa fin. Actuellement j'azi utilisé mon quota de jours autorisés sur le sol brésilien. Je n'envisage pas d'attendre 180 jours pour retourné là-bàs...saudades saudades... penses-tu que si je rentres par la frontière par exemple argentino-bresilienne, je bénéficierai de nouveau d'un visa de tourisme de trois mois?
Si vous avez d'autre solution merci de^m'en faire part car je suis completement desespérée...je pense repartir en fevrier. merci beaucoup
il y a des années qui posent question...d'autres qui y repondent...
Bonjour,
oui alors, après avoir affirmer certaines choses, je m'explicite:
Je suis entrée au Brésil. Au bout de 3 mois, je suis allée à la police federale pour une prorogation de 3 mois(une année ce fut sans problème, l'autre, ils m'ont demandé mes extraits de compte bancaire!) Au bout de 6 mois, je suis partie dans le pantanal, j'ai passé la frontière en Bolivie, je suis restée une nuit dans un hôtel à la frontière, puis j'ai repassé la frontière dans l'autre sens. Sans aucun problème! J'ai eu donc le droit à 3 mois de plus.
Voilà pour les explicitations
Estou cheia de saudade tamben!
Salut...me revoilà... Merci pour ta reponse qui m'a redonner espoir :) Donc, Lorsque tu passes la douane par exemple argentino-bresilienne même si ils voient que tu as déjà passé 6mois au bresil, il te retamponne pour trois mois malgré le problème des 180 jours déjà consommé?
il y a des années qui posent question...d'autres qui y repondent...
Salut.
Les informations se contredisent un peu au sujet de cette amende.
Personnellement et actuellement au Brésil, mon billet de retour en France est 11 jours après l'expiration de mes 1ers 90 jours de VISA touriste. J'hésite à demander une prolongation qui implique certains "blocages" ensuite pour revenir au pays du string. 1- Soit je prolonge en demandant explicitement une durée de 11 jours et non pas 90 jours et je paie 67 R$ (c'est le prix actuel de la prolong! source Police Federale www.dpf.com.br) ; 2- Soit je ne renouvelle pas et alors je m'acquitterai d'une amende à l'aéroport le jour de mon départ.
Pour le cas n°2, je devrai alors payer pour 11 jours d'irrégularité : je cherche à savoir si l'amende sera supérieure à 67 R$ ou pas ? Certains disent qu'il faut s'acquitter de 330 R$ pour les 30 1ers jours d'irrégularité, d'autres disent qu'il faut payer une amende de 7 à 12 R$ par jour... Disons que pour conserver du "crédit" en terme de nombre jours dispo sur mes prochains retours au Brésil début 2009, je suis prêt à ne pas prolonger et mettre jusqu'à 100 R$ d'amende.
=> Alors, connaissez-vous le système d'amende et à combien cela s'élèverait pour 11 jours d'irrégularité ? Merci.
Les informations se contredisent un peu au sujet de cette amende.
Personnellement et actuellement au Brésil, mon billet de retour en France est 11 jours après l'expiration de mes 1ers 90 jours de VISA touriste. J'hésite à demander une prolongation qui implique certains "blocages" ensuite pour revenir au pays du string. 1- Soit je prolonge en demandant explicitement une durée de 11 jours et non pas 90 jours et je paie 67 R$ (c'est le prix actuel de la prolong! source Police Federale www.dpf.com.br) ; 2- Soit je ne renouvelle pas et alors je m'acquitterai d'une amende à l'aéroport le jour de mon départ.
Pour le cas n°2, je devrai alors payer pour 11 jours d'irrégularité : je cherche à savoir si l'amende sera supérieure à 67 R$ ou pas ? Certains disent qu'il faut s'acquitter de 330 R$ pour les 30 1ers jours d'irrégularité, d'autres disent qu'il faut payer une amende de 7 à 12 R$ par jour... Disons que pour conserver du "crédit" en terme de nombre jours dispo sur mes prochains retours au Brésil début 2009, je suis prêt à ne pas prolonger et mettre jusqu'à 100 R$ d'amende.
=> Alors, connaissez-vous le système d'amende et à combien cela s'élèverait pour 11 jours d'irrégularité ? Merci.
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There’s a new system in place now, it seems.
TDAC – Thailand Digital Arrival Card.
Before arriving, I apply for a TDAC, okay. If during my stay I cross the border to spend a few days in Malaysia and then re-enter Thailand, do I need to submit a new TDAC application? Do I use the same TDAC as when I first entered the country?
Or do I initially have to pay for a Thai multi-entry visa?
Thanks in advance for your insights—I can’t find the answer online.
Pierre
I’ve been to Thailand several times, but it was about 20 years ago…
There’s a new system in place now, it seems.
TDAC – Thailand Digital Arrival Card.
Before arriving, I apply for a TDAC, okay. If during my stay I cross the border to spend a few days in Malaysia and then re-enter Thailand, do I need to submit a new TDAC application? Do I use the same TDAC as when I first entered the country?
Or do I initially have to pay for a Thai multi-entry visa?
Thanks in advance for your insights—I can’t find the answer online.
Pierre
My partner (Mexican) entered France on January 21st as a tourist. She was therefore entitled to stay for 90 days in the Schengen Area. She’ll be leaving for Mexico on April 16th, so she’ll have “used up” 86 days.
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
Hello,
We’re planning to travel to Indonesia (Sulawesi with family) next July and August for a stay longer than a month (about 6 weeks).
I’ve seen that it’s possible to get a 60-day visa before departure, but I’ve also read about people having a lot of trouble getting it (some even didn’t manage and had to leave without it).
We absolutely need to have these 4 visas BEFORE leaving because once we’re in Sulawesi, I’m not sure we’ll be able to go to an embassy to request a visa extension after 30 days.
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
Hi there,
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
Hello, HAPPY NEW YEAR 2026!
We’re heading back in October for a trip through Botswana, Zambia, and Zimbabwe.
I have a question: for our route, we’ll need to cross the Zambia and Zimbabwe borders twice each. From experience, I know we won’t have any issues with Botswana.
But for the other two countries, I can’t find a clear answer.
All your tips are welcome!
Thanks for your replies
Thanks for your replies
Hi everyone!
I’m currently a student on a gap year, and I don’t plan to go back to school right away. That said, traveling really interests me. But I’ve been wondering: does being a student come with any perks when you decide to go abroad? The real question is whether I should re-enroll in a program just to keep that status without actually attending.
Thanks in advance for your replies,
Axel
I’m currently a student on a gap year, and I don’t plan to go back to school right away. That said, traveling really interests me. But I’ve been wondering: does being a student come with any perks when you decide to go abroad? The real question is whether I should re-enroll in a program just to keep that status without actually attending.
Thanks in advance for your replies,
Axel
hi everyone,
I’m French and live in France, and my Thai girlfriend just told me she’s pregnant—she lives in Thailand. First step, a paternity test to set my mind at ease. What steps do I need to take to recognize the child? Can I do it before the birth or only after? Where do I need to go, and what paperwork is required?
Just to clarify, I want him to stay in Thailand but be able to come to France anytime without any issues! Thanks for taking the time to read and reply.
Just to clarify, I want him to stay in Thailand but be able to come to France anytime without any issues! Thanks for taking the time to read and reply.