Pour commencer notre tour du monde nous pensions Arriver au Canada. Le prochan avion partirait d'Amérique du Sud. Entre temps, nous aimerions visiter le Canada, des glaciers (genre Groenland ou Alaska) puis redescendre vers l'Amérique centrale en visitant donc les Etats Unis. Tout cela avec quelques vols internes (compris dans notre billet tour du monde). Pourriez vous donc nous conseiller sur ce qui est incontournable, le moins cher pour les déplacements, l'hebergement... bref des tuyaus des expérimentés quoi, tous les bons plans mais surtout des conseils qui nous aideront à organiser clairement ce voyage. Nous sommes preneurs de tout... à bon entendeur, merci!
Incontournables au Canada (et glaciers) et États-Unis
by Pechet
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour à tous,
Pour commencer notre tour du monde nous pensions Arriver au Canada. Le prochan avion partirait d'Amérique du Sud. Entre temps, nous aimerions visiter le Canada, des glaciers (genre Groenland ou Alaska) puis redescendre vers l'Amérique centrale en visitant donc les Etats Unis. Tout cela avec quelques vols internes (compris dans notre billet tour du monde). Pourriez vous donc nous conseiller sur ce qui est incontournable, le moins cher pour les déplacements, l'hebergement... bref des tuyaus des expérimentés quoi, tous les bons plans mais surtout des conseils qui nous aideront à organiser clairement ce voyage. Nous sommes preneurs de tout... à bon entendeur, merci!
Pour commencer notre tour du monde nous pensions Arriver au Canada. Le prochan avion partirait d'Amérique du Sud. Entre temps, nous aimerions visiter le Canada, des glaciers (genre Groenland ou Alaska) puis redescendre vers l'Amérique centrale en visitant donc les Etats Unis. Tout cela avec quelques vols internes (compris dans notre billet tour du monde). Pourriez vous donc nous conseiller sur ce qui est incontournable, le moins cher pour les déplacements, l'hebergement... bref des tuyaus des expérimentés quoi, tous les bons plans mais surtout des conseils qui nous aideront à organiser clairement ce voyage. Nous sommes preneurs de tout... à bon entendeur, merci!
Bonjour Pechet,
Pas de pot : ni le Groenland ni l'Alaska ne sont au Canada 😊
Sauf à être contredit, aucun vol ne dessert le Groenland au départ de France, sauf avec 2 transits à Copenhague et Islande...et encore pas toute l'année !
Sont bien à l'abri des envahisseurs les habitants !
Pour l'Alaska (49 ème Etat US) c'est plus simple : un seul transit aux US et vous y êtes !
Pour sur on y voit des glaciers 😏, mais emmenez la tirelire car tout y est 30% plus cher que dans les autres Etats...
Pour traverser les US vers le Mexique et l'AdS, le moins cher reste le bus (www.greyhound.com) associé au camping ou AdJ (appelées "Hostels" là-bas) . Tout le long de ce genre de parcours, le tiers-ouest des US contient la quasi totalité des parcs - vraiment incontournables -
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Merci Jadorry pour ta réponse,
Bon ok je me suis mal exprimée 😛 Non en fait je ne dis pas qu'on veut voir des glaciers au Canada, mais que du Canada on aimerait aller voir des glaciers... genre Groenland ou alaska 😉
On s'est dit que le plus simple était d'arriver au Canada, ensuite de voir les glaciers puis de redescendre...Ta formule bus me semble pas mal du tout d'ailleurs... L'Alaska me tente moins si 30% plus cher, mais bon si on ne peut rien voir d'autre... tant pis ce sera ça. De toute façon, c'est surtout pour le voir au moins une fois, pas forcément rester sur place parce que même si la nature est vraiment la plus belle chose qui soit, j'ai peur de trouver ça magnifique mais angoissant de naviguer autour d'énormes isbergs.... (Cousteau m'a terrorisé tout en me donnant envie de voir ça...). Donc on cherche plutôt à faire une sorte d'expedition en bateau pour découvrir mais pas plus...
Pour l'hebergement le problème du camping est qu'on n'aura certainement pas de tente (limitation de poids dans les avions oblige...) ou alors d'en acheter une sur place pourquoi pas... Je pense de toute façon qu'on ne s'éternisera pas aux Etats Unis, on va juste se rendre à qques endroits clés... Par contre au Canada on resterait bien un peu plus (on ne connait pas du tout) mais ça parrait tellement grand (donc moyens de locomotion?) et on n'arrive pas à se décider sur des destinations précises...
Voili voilou, donc si vous avez des suggestions et des conseils sur les formalités ou tout autres choses que j'aurais oubliées... (Je grouille de questions, dur de toutes les poser...).
Bonjour Iza et merci, exactement ce qu'on cherche... ça donne vraiment envie...
Le plus simple pour circuler semble de louer une voiture depuis whitehorse, par contre au niveau logement, le plus simple serait d'acheter une tente et le nécéssaire de camper, ce qui servirait pour tout le voyage sur ce continent (pour les Etats Unis et la suite) puis de tout renvoyer par bateau en France... Le plus aventageux est il alors d'acheter ce matériel au Canada ou aux Etats Unis? ou alors on emène le matériel mais pas très pratique et inutile pour le reste du tour du monde...
Pardon, j'ai encore plein de questions... Combien de temps faut il compter pour bien profiter de ce parc? Autant prendre son temps mais je ne me rends pas trop compte...
Je suis ouverte également à d'autres propositions (en plus de celle-ci qui fait l'unanimité...)😏 merci à vous...
les prix au yukon sont équivalent aux prix francais et moins chers qu'en alaska, mais si tu veux voir des glaciers marins, il faudra que tu te rende en alaska. Depuis white horse tu peux allé a skagway par la route du klondike (ruée vers l'or) a peu pres 3 heures de route si je me souvient et de skagway (alaska) tu peux prendre une croisiere ou un avion pour aller a glacier bay.Nous nous sommes allé a juneau en ferry depuis skagway et de la somme allé voir les glaciers au retour nous sommes passés par haines
Pour la tente pas de probleme vous pouvez la prendre dans vos bagages les limites de poids par passager sont tres élevées sur les vols transatlantique autour de 60 kg (nous en avions pris deux pour avoir toujours une tente seche en cas de pluie)
Bon, alors va pour le Yukon ! Ceci dit en passant, le Yukon n'est pas un parc, mais un Territoire (assez semblable à une "Province" sans en avoir le titre ! Et c'est GRAAAAND : par ex 550km de Whitehorse à Dawson !
Pour l'itinéraire, tout dépend évidemment du temps que vous entendez y consacrer ! Si le temps ne vous est "pas trop" compté, je suggérerais Paris/Calgary puis avec une voiture de loc remonter via Banff, Lake Louise, Jasper (sur ce parcours il y en a déjà des glaciers.....) puis Prince George et route de l'Alaska, Whitehorse, Dawson. Pour le retour, revenir à Prince Rupert et prendre le ferry vers Port Hardy sur l'Ile de Vancouver, et terminer à Vancouver en y rendant la voiture. A mon avis "à la louche" il va falloir un mois pour ce parcours !
Pour la suite (USA) j'ai encore des idées mais il y a le temps ??
Au fait c'est quand le Grand départ ??
Pour l'histoire du couchage : pourquoi renvoyer le matos ? Vous coucherez comment en Amérique centrale et Sud ?? A+
Pour l'histoire du couchage : pourquoi renvoyer le matos ? Vous coucherez comment en Amérique centrale et Sud ?? A+
Si vous ne réussissez jamais rien du premier coup, n'essayez pas le parachutisme !
Bonjour boyer,
Du coup ta réponse (merci pour elle) fait appel à pleins d'autres questions, vous avez passé combien de temps sur le bateau, comment c'était, quelle saison, combien ça a couté...? As tu vu une aurore boréale (les photos sur le site de Yukon son magnifique, moi qui n'osait même pas en réver...)? 😉 Vos deux tentes ont été utiles? Pour la route oui je vois tout a fait, ils en parlent beaucoup sur le site de yukon. Quand au poids oui c'est vrai tu as raison, en fait on pensait au début faire le tour du monde dans l'autre sens, du coup les poids était nettement plus limités... Donc c'est juste on peut prendre une tente, voir même acheter un réchaud sur place (la bouteille de gaz dans l'avion on va éviter) et c'est plus sympa que le resto... et moins cher 🏴☠️. Merci pour tous ces bons tuyaus, vous me donnez tous l'eau à la bouche et nous aidez à dessiner notre voyage, ça le rend plus concrêt...
Du coup ta réponse (merci pour elle) fait appel à pleins d'autres questions, vous avez passé combien de temps sur le bateau, comment c'était, quelle saison, combien ça a couté...? As tu vu une aurore boréale (les photos sur le site de Yukon son magnifique, moi qui n'osait même pas en réver...)? 😉 Vos deux tentes ont été utiles? Pour la route oui je vois tout a fait, ils en parlent beaucoup sur le site de yukon. Quand au poids oui c'est vrai tu as raison, en fait on pensait au début faire le tour du monde dans l'autre sens, du coup les poids était nettement plus limités... Donc c'est juste on peut prendre une tente, voir même acheter un réchaud sur place (la bouteille de gaz dans l'avion on va éviter) et c'est plus sympa que le resto... et moins cher 🏴☠️. Merci pour tous ces bons tuyaus, vous me donnez tous l'eau à la bouche et nous aidez à dessiner notre voyage, ça le rend plus concrêt...
Merci Jadorry, nous sommes en train d'étudier tout ton parcours conseillé mais je crois qu'il faut qu'on trouve une carte plus détaillée, ça tombe bien on voulait être sur de la zone avant d'investir... 😉 Le temps n'est pas compté (pour l'instant) c'est justement pour ça qu'on y pense bien dès maintenant, et tant qu'à être dans un coin pareil, autant bien en profiter...
Pour la tente, le problème est plus en quittant l'Amérique, en Asie on déconseille le camping (voir il n'y en a pas dans certains pays) en plus on va faire plus de marche, donc il faut être plus léger... Mais on peut renvoyer le matos au moment de repartir. Pour les US je suis preneuse aussi (toujours pas de contrainte de tps, pour l'instant on a prévu 4 ou 5 mois en Amérique (nord centre et sud) mais ça peut évoluer... le porte monnaie risque aussi d'avoir son mot à dire... 😕 Par contre pour les US, je suis déjà aller à Yellow Stone, et jj'ai déjà fait la plupart de grands parcs de l'ouest jusqu'à Las Végas (seule ville traversée avec Denver...) Mais pas mon conjoint... DU coup on pense refaire quand même certains de ces parcs (genre monument valley...) et Las Végas... Pour le reste je voudrais bien découvrir moi aussi, donc on pensait utiliser nos vols internes ici (on en à 4 en tout mais à utiliser avec modération...).. Voila pourles grandes lignes...
Et pour le grand départ, il est dans 9 mois... (encore? pff ça ne passe pas) et on tient à bien tout préparer... Et c'est beaucoup de boulot, mais tellement de bonheur...Notre première halte étant le Canada et je pense qu'on va déjà s'en mettre plein les yeux... Pour le reste, on a décidé de nos escales, des pays, le reste suit son cours (renseignement, décisions...). Voili voilou, merci de tes conseils...
🙂🙂Bonjour,
Pour la route, c'est plus facile de se rendre d'abord a Vancouver puis remonter a Dawson Creek.Je suggere ensuite la route de Whitehorse, monter jusqu'a Dawson puis revenir a Vancouver par la route de l'Alaska.Ensuite de retour a Vancouver, vous gagnez les États-Unis par Seattle.
Pour le matériel, je conseille de l'achetez a Vancouver.
Pour la durée prévue, tout dépend du temps que vous avez.Je dirais 3 semaines minimum.
Juste une petite correction, le Yukon est un territoire, pas un parc😉
Si vous avez d'autres questions, n'hésitez pas
Cordialement.
Pour la route, c'est plus facile de se rendre d'abord a Vancouver puis remonter a Dawson Creek.Je suggere ensuite la route de Whitehorse, monter jusqu'a Dawson puis revenir a Vancouver par la route de l'Alaska.Ensuite de retour a Vancouver, vous gagnez les États-Unis par Seattle.
Pour le matériel, je conseille de l'achetez a Vancouver.
Pour la durée prévue, tout dépend du temps que vous avez.Je dirais 3 semaines minimum.
Juste une petite correction, le Yukon est un territoire, pas un parc😉
Si vous avez d'autres questions, n'hésitez pas
Cordialement.
bonjour
a juneau nous avons fait la croisiere a la journée sur un petit bateau pour tracy arm, les plus gros iceberg (d'un bleu intense) qu'on a vu en alaska, le plus grand nombre de phoques; il faut compter un peu moins de 100 euros(en 2004)
Pour aller a juneau depuis skagway et revenir avec la voiture a deux personnes il me semble que ca coute pas loin de 300 euros
Pour glacier bay c'est plus cher puisqu'il faut prendre l'avion pour gustavus(200dollars) puis faire la croisiere sur glacier bay (150 dollars)
En 2003 sur 4 semaines nous avons fait seattle(avion), vancouver, ile de vancouver (tofino, port renfrew, port hardy) ferry pour prince ruppert, hyder (enclave alaska)smither, quesnel, well gray, mont robson, jasper, banff, rocky mountaincalgary, drumheller(musée des dinausores), waterton park, yellowstoneet rtetour sur seattle
En 2004sur 23 jours nous sommes allé a anchorage(avion), puis sur la peninsule de kenai ou nous avons fait des croisiers a la journée dans les fjord pour voir les glaciers et la faune marine (100 euros repas compris)
de la nous sommes remonté sur denali nationnal park (mc kinley) et fairbank, nous sommes redescendu a valdez pour voir les glaciers colombia et meares; ensuite direction le yukon (whitehorse)puis retour en alaska pour skagway, ferry pour juneau, visite des glaciers alentours et de leur faunes et enfin retour sur anchorage par haines
pour ces deux voyages nous avions loué une voiture depuis la france et avons fait pratiquement que du camping
jean louis
Bonjour Jean-Louis et Iza et merci pour vos réponses...
Oui nous pensions arriver à Vancouver mais de là ne savons pas encore si le mieux est de louer une voiture de là ou de prendre l'avion pour whitehorse... En même temps de faire le trajet en voiture nous permet de voir encore plus de paysage... (surtout que c'est limité à 100km/h c'est ça? donc ça laisse le temps d'en profiter...).
Jean-Louis, quel à été votre budjet moyen pour ces deux séjours (il est important qu'on est une idée concrête dès maintenant d'un budjet moyen pour savoir combien il nous reste pour les autres continents... 😉 et même si là je commence à avoir une bonne idée des transports, je ne me rends pas trop compte pour l'hebergement et la nourriture...).
Tracy arm me tente bien du coup, c'est exactement ce qu'on cherche...mais voir la faune marine est pas mal non plus...
Pour aller à glacier bay, est on obliger de prendre l'avion?
Je suis désolée, vos réponses appellent des questions 😏... Au niveau camping, avez vous eu froid? aviez vous un réchaud ? avez vous trouver des campings facilement? (il faut acheter une autorisation de camper, non?). Et enfin, comment se passent les assurances voiture? (il faut s'assurer pour 200 000$ minimum à ce que j'ai lu...). Je vous remercie tous de toutes ces précieuses nformations et de nous faire partager vos expériences...
bonjour
le budget pour notre premier voyage ouest canada nord ouest des state a été de 2200 € par personne pour 28 jours (voiture autour de 900 € loué de france par autoescape, billet AVION 500€, carte a l'année pour visiter les park US ET CANADIEN 100€. le reste etant consacré aux ferry;a l'essence, la nourriture et l'hebergement en camping+4 hotels)
le voyage en alaska sur 24 jours nous est revenu a 2700 € avec seulement 1 hotel mais tout est plus cher en alaska et nous avons fait beaucoup de croisieres a la journée(5 a 100 €/p) pour observer la faune marine, mais ca vaut le coup
Pour glacier bay soit tu prend l'avion si tu veux le faire dans la journée soit tu prend une croisiere de 2 a 3 jours qui coute assez cher ( nous n'avons pas fait glacier bay par manque de temps et budget mais on regrette, car on en avait les moyens)
Bonjour à tous,
SI vous avez besoin d'informations récoltées sur place, n'hésitez pas à me contacter. Je suis installé à Vancouver donc cela me sera facile.
Une option a envisager éventuellement, celle du motorhome ou camping car. Comme la tortue, la maison sur le dos, autonomie, moins cher en nourriture que le restau, plus étanche que la tente, -ne pas oublier qu'au Yukon et en Colombie Britannique il pleut pas mal!- etc... Un superbe parcours ferait prise du véhicule à Calgary, montée vers le Yukon, et redescente par le Inside Passage avec BC Ferries pour rendre le camper à Vancouver.
Des glaciers, vous en verrez entre Calgary et Jasper pour commencer, et si vous aimez la marche, il y a des randos à faire absolument superbes...
Ensuite dès que vous prendrez la Cassiar Highway, glaciers sur votre gauche en montant, en pagaille... Puis plus haut, bien sur.
Assurance voiture (ou motorhome) pas obligatoire en général, mais conseillée. Campings: il y en a en pagaille partout en Colombie Britannique, dans les parcs provinciaux et nationaux. Coût moyen 17CAD$/nuit. D'autre part le camping sauvage est fréquent et très pratiqué par les britanocolombiens, aucun problème. Seulement c'est interdit à l'intérieur des parcs, où il faut "obligatoirement" aller dans un campground officiel... Essence: en ce moment elle est à 1, 10 CAD$ le litre en moyenne. A votre disposition si vous avez besoin d'infos locales. Alain
Assurance voiture (ou motorhome) pas obligatoire en général, mais conseillée. Campings: il y en a en pagaille partout en Colombie Britannique, dans les parcs provinciaux et nationaux. Coût moyen 17CAD$/nuit. D'autre part le camping sauvage est fréquent et très pratiqué par les britanocolombiens, aucun problème. Seulement c'est interdit à l'intérieur des parcs, où il faut "obligatoirement" aller dans un campground officiel... Essence: en ce moment elle est à 1, 10 CAD$ le litre en moyenne. A votre disposition si vous avez besoin d'infos locales. Alain
Alain, Vancouver
Aventure, Voyages, faut pas seulement rêver... let's go!
Bonjour Jadorry,
Ton parcours semble hyper interessant mais je pense couper court et commencer a partir de Edmonton. Banff et Lake Louise ont deja ete visites.
Combien penses-tu que cela peux prendre de Edmonton a Vancouver par la route que tu privilegies ?
As-tu vu des aurores boreales pendant ton itineraire ? Sais-tu quand elle se pointe ? Est-ce que leur temps de predilection est un bon moment pour se rendre dans cette region ?
Merci
Ton parcours semble hyper interessant mais je pense couper court et commencer a partir de Edmonton. Banff et Lake Louise ont deja ete visites.
Combien penses-tu que cela peux prendre de Edmonton a Vancouver par la route que tu privilegies ?
As-tu vu des aurores boreales pendant ton itineraire ? Sais-tu quand elle se pointe ? Est-ce que leur temps de predilection est un bon moment pour se rendre dans cette region ?
Merci
Bonjour CanadaErrant,
Je ne saisis pas bien ce que tu veux faire ? Edmonton/Vancouver en direct ? ou bien en allant au Yukon ?
Moi, je n'ai fait en 2003 que Jasper-Prince Rupert, puis le ferry vers Port Hardy etc et le Yukon ou les N.T restent encore au chapitre "à faire" 😠
Aurores boréales ? non, hélas ! mais il doit y en avoir assez peu en juillet ?? et pour moi, les routes du nord de B.C en hiver....je n'oserais pas trop m'y frotter 😊
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After our first trip as a young couple to the West in 2007 (yes, that doesn’t make us any younger!), we’re planning to go back in 2028, but this time as a family of four! (We have two boys who’ll be 5½ and 13 years old in the summer of 2028.)
Our plan is to combine a few big cities (SF and LA, maybe San Diego) with national parks and state parks, mostly! Ideally, we’d like to leave at the end of June and head back to France around July 19–20, so we can enjoy the first week of the Olympic Games in Los Angeles.
Since we already did the "loop" in 2007, there are must-see places we absolutely want to revisit—and especially share with our kids: Bryce Canyon, Yosemite, and above all, the Grand Canyon, which is still the most incredible thing I’ve ever seen on Earth!
On the other hand, some places didn’t leave a big impression on us for various reasons, so we’re not making them a priority: Antelope Canyon, Monument Valley, for example.
We’re planning ahead, but might as well be smart about it😏
Do you have any tips for a fun and doable itinerary over about 20–25 days with kids, without rushing?
Thanks in advance for your feedback😉
Hi everyone! 🙂
Just a quick question about King Canyon and Sequoia National Park.
Before our night in Miramonte, we plan to visit King Canyon. The next stop will be two nights in Three Rivers to explore Sequoia National Park. I wanted to go all the way to Roaring River Falls on the King Canyon Scenic Byway and then turn back to head to Miramonte. Since we’re coming from Oakhurst, Google Maps says it’s 300 km and 5 hours of driving. Since we also want to hike to see the sequoias (Big Stump Area and Grand Grove) before tackling the King Canyon Scenic Byway, the timing’s going to be tight. How far do you recommend going before turning back to miss as few points of interest as possible on the King Canyon Scenic Byway? Thanks for your advice, and have a great evening!
Marcalamar 🙂
Hi everyone!
After years of hoping, waiting, planning, then changing, saving, and searching for the best possible route... we're FINALLY off this summer for a 5-week road trip in the West.
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
Hello.
I’d like to travel along I-15N from San Diego to Las Vegas with my mom, who’s 67. We’ve explored Northern California and the California Coast over the past two years and now want to continue through the desert.
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
Hi there,
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Hi there,
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
Hi,
My 16-year-old son is flying to Grand Rapids with other kids his age. There’s a layover in Detroit. There’s no unaccompanied minor service available. Is it pretty easy to navigate Detroit Airport to catch the connecting flight to Grand Rapids (domestic flight)? There are several of them who speak English well.
Thanks for your replies,
Good evening, everyone! 🙂
Just a few last questions to wrap up our Lake Tahoe visit plans.
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Hi there. I'm shocked by the price of the Upper Antelope Canyon tour—$175 for less than an hour… You might say, "if you can’t afford it…" But the real question is whether it’s really worth it, because $350 for two makes me feel like I’m getting ripped off. For those who’ve done both Lower and Upper, can you tell me if the price difference is really justified? Thanks
Hi everyone! 🙂
As you can see, we're heading back from September 6th to the 27th.
Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us.
We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here's a tip for future visitors!
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
Hi everyone,
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
Thanks for advising me on the booking—should I reserve a room in the hotel or go for a cabin for the best view?
Should I get breakfast or not?
What do you think of the restaurant?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
Hello,
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse
Hi everyone.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
Hi everyone, I’m traveling to Los Angeles and would like to rent a vehicle at the airport. However, I have a Boursobank Ultim deferred debit card, so I’d love to know if it’s possible for those who’ve experienced this recently. Thanks for the info!
Hi VF community,
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
Hi,
I’m planning a road trip through the American national parks starting from Denver in June 2026.
The price of the pass is jumping from 80 € to 250 € on January 1st, 2026!!!
Is it possible to buy the pass online before the end of the year to lock in the 80 € rate? If so, where and how do I go about it?
Thanks for your tips.
Arnale
Hi there,
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hey everyone!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!
Hello,
I’m currently looking for well-located hotels near points of interest in the cities below. I’ve found a few, but the prices are really high. Could any of you share some great addresses in the following cities? - Los Angeles - Las Vegas - San Francisco
Also, do you have a preferred airline for domestic flights? If so, which one?
Thanks so much, and have a great day, everyone!
Gertjan
I’m currently looking for well-located hotels near points of interest in the cities below. I’ve found a few, but the prices are really high. Could any of you share some great addresses in the following cities? - Los Angeles - Las Vegas - San Francisco
Also, do you have a preferred airline for domestic flights? If so, which one?
Thanks so much, and have a great day, everyone!
Gertjan






