Témoignages pour un circuit organisé aux Etats-Unis et au Canada avec Nouvelles Frontières
by Del67
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour a tous,
Je vais faire un circuit organisé usa canada le 25 aout avec nouvelles frontières et j'aimerais avoir l'avis de personnes qui l'ont déja fait.
Merci d'avance!
Pourquoi demander après avoir acheté, au risque de te déprimer avant de partir???😮😉
c'est avant qu'il faut venir ici🙂
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Salut !
Pour ma part je ne suis pas partie avec NF mais j'ai fait un circuit un peu du même genre mais avec de la nature, ce qui n'était pas désagréable.
Montréal : j'ai adoré. Les gens sont vraiment agréable. Belle ville avec une superbe cathédrale. Un plus au biodome aussi.
Toronto : Ville américaine typique.
Chutes du Niagara : magnifiques mais décues par l'ambiance mercantile qui y règne autour. Vous verrez vous serez supris !
New-York : Ville gigantesque qui fatigue bien. Bruyante mais génial à voir.
Voila quelques impressions vécus. pour infos nous n'étions que 8 donc on a pu avoir un vrai contact avec les villes et les personnes. @+
Pour ma part je ne suis pas partie avec NF mais j'ai fait un circuit un peu du même genre mais avec de la nature, ce qui n'était pas désagréable.
Montréal : j'ai adoré. Les gens sont vraiment agréable. Belle ville avec une superbe cathédrale. Un plus au biodome aussi.
Toronto : Ville américaine typique.
Chutes du Niagara : magnifiques mais décues par l'ambiance mercantile qui y règne autour. Vous verrez vous serez supris !
New-York : Ville gigantesque qui fatigue bien. Bruyante mais génial à voir.
Voila quelques impressions vécus. pour infos nous n'étions que 8 donc on a pu avoir un vrai contact avec les villes et les personnes. @+
Bonjour,
Tout ça en 14 jours-dont 12 sur place ?? C'est ce que NF appelle le circuit marathon ?? Ils fournissent la fusée entre chaque site ??
Tout ça en 14 jours-dont 12 sur place ?? C'est ce que NF appelle le circuit marathon ?? Ils fournissent la fusée entre chaque site ??
Si vous ne réussissez jamais rien du premier coup, n'essayez pas le parachutisme !
Je n'ai fait qu'un voyage "organisé" dans ma vie, conséquemment, ce qui me préoccupait c'est ma marge de liberté pour des visites personnelles, ou simplement marcher dans les villes. Votre itinéraire vous le confirmera, mais les soirées sont souvent "libres". Mais, on ne peut déterminer cette "liberté" sans connaître l'emplacement de l'hotel, ce qu'on n'apprend généralement que le jour même. Je vous suggérerais tout de même d'imprimer à partir d'internet les cartes des métros des villes visitées. En voici quelques unes :
Montréal :
réseaux seulement : http://www.stm.info/metro/mapmetro.htm
Carte repaire pour le centre-ville : http://www.stm.info/info/centre-ville2006.pdf
New York : http://www.mta.nyc.ny.us/nyct/maps/submap.htm ( Central Park est superbe, à toute heure du jour. Je ne parle pas de la nuit et je vous suggère de rester sur les sentiers bitumés )
Washington D.C. : http://www.washington.org/WCTCoffsite.cfm?http://www.metroopensdoors.com ( Notez qu'à Washington, à peu près tous les sites à visiter sont situés autour du "Mall", soit entre les stations Capitol south et Metro Center, sur la ligne bleue. Parmi les sites pouvant être visités le soir : Lincoln et Jefferson Memorial, de même que les memorials aux guerres du VietNam et de Corée. Ca exclut malheureusement les musées du Smithsonian )
Il vous reste un peu de temps pour préparer les ajouts que vous voudriez faire, si le temps le permet. Malgré le côté chargé de votre itinéraire, une forte proportion sera passée dans le bus. Si vous pouvez y dormir, il vous sera possible de profiter de vos soirées.
New York : http://www.mta.nyc.ny.us/nyct/maps/submap.htm ( Central Park est superbe, à toute heure du jour. Je ne parle pas de la nuit et je vous suggère de rester sur les sentiers bitumés )
Washington D.C. : http://www.washington.org/WCTCoffsite.cfm?http://www.metroopensdoors.com ( Notez qu'à Washington, à peu près tous les sites à visiter sont situés autour du "Mall", soit entre les stations Capitol south et Metro Center, sur la ligne bleue. Parmi les sites pouvant être visités le soir : Lincoln et Jefferson Memorial, de même que les memorials aux guerres du VietNam et de Corée. Ca exclut malheureusement les musées du Smithsonian )
Il vous reste un peu de temps pour préparer les ajouts que vous voudriez faire, si le temps le permet. Malgré le côté chargé de votre itinéraire, une forte proportion sera passée dans le bus. Si vous pouvez y dormir, il vous sera possible de profiter de vos soirées.
Bonjour,
Quel est exactement la dénomination du circuit que tu as fait? Est ce " le tour des capitales"?! Et par quel voyagiste? J'ai lu sur un forum que c'était un voyage a proscrire car l'organisation était déplorable avec des trajets en bus poubelle. On envisageait de faire ce voyage mais dans ces conditions, on hésite. Merci de me donner quelques précisions. Merci d'avance.
@+
Quel est exactement la dénomination du circuit que tu as fait? Est ce " le tour des capitales"?! Et par quel voyagiste? J'ai lu sur un forum que c'était un voyage a proscrire car l'organisation était déplorable avec des trajets en bus poubelle. On envisageait de faire ce voyage mais dans ces conditions, on hésite. Merci de me donner quelques précisions. Merci d'avance.
@+
Merci a le dragon pour sa réponse.!
En ce qui concerne le circuit, il s'appelle splendeurs de l'est avec nouvelles frontieres.
Je n'ai pas encore recu de témoignages pour ce circuit mais en tous les cas, je vais le faire car je suis passionnée par ce pays et je n'ai pas trouver une personne pour venir avec moi donc la seule solution c'est le circuit organisé..
Salut Del
Désolé, je ne pourrai pas non te répondre sur la qualité du circuit. C'est vrai que ça fait beaucoup en peu de temps, mais ça te permettra peut-être de te faire une idée des endroits où tu voudras revenir plus longuement. Et c'est vari que ça n'est pas toujours évident, de trouver quelqu'un pour accompagner en voyage. Par contre, avec ce site, j'ai l'impression que ça pourra grandement faciliter les choses 😉
J'ai fait, en septembre 2004, un circuit autour du St-Laurent et j'ai vraiment adoré. En plus, les gens sont vraiment souriants et charmants. Pour Montréal, ça "s'américanise". Concernant Ottawa et Toronto, tu sens vraiment que tu n'es plus au Québec. Je ne sais pas si tu auras l'occasion d'y aller, mais il y a un endroit vraiemnt magique, au nord-iouest de Québec (www.seigneuriedutriton.com). J'en ai déjà parlé à plusieurs personnes, mais c'est vraiment un endroit sublimissime 🙂
Sur ce, je te souhaite de faire un très très joli voygae
Arnaud
Désolé, je ne pourrai pas non te répondre sur la qualité du circuit. C'est vrai que ça fait beaucoup en peu de temps, mais ça te permettra peut-être de te faire une idée des endroits où tu voudras revenir plus longuement. Et c'est vari que ça n'est pas toujours évident, de trouver quelqu'un pour accompagner en voyage. Par contre, avec ce site, j'ai l'impression que ça pourra grandement faciliter les choses 😉
J'ai fait, en septembre 2004, un circuit autour du St-Laurent et j'ai vraiment adoré. En plus, les gens sont vraiment souriants et charmants. Pour Montréal, ça "s'américanise". Concernant Ottawa et Toronto, tu sens vraiment que tu n'es plus au Québec. Je ne sais pas si tu auras l'occasion d'y aller, mais il y a un endroit vraiemnt magique, au nord-iouest de Québec (www.seigneuriedutriton.com). J'en ai déjà parlé à plusieurs personnes, mais c'est vraiment un endroit sublimissime 🙂
Sur ce, je te souhaite de faire un très très joli voygae
Arnaud
Arnaud
salut!!
oui ce site est vraiment super mais malheuresement, je n'ai pas trouvé quelqu'un avec qui partir ...mais, je pars qd meme, c'est le principal!!
Avant de partir, je me renseigne sur les villes ou je vais passer et la ou j'ai du temps libre car je veus rien louper..Je vais aller voir sur le site que tu m'as indiqué, merci pour l'info!!et bonnes vacances a toi!!!
del
Salut,
nous pensons faire le même circuit que toi par nouvelles frontieres, mais nous n'avons pas encore réservé. As-tu eu le détail du voyage apres avoir réservé? Si c'est le cas ca te dérangerait de m'en dire un peu plus que ce qu'il y a sur le site?! Bon voyage, esperons que ca te plaise et on attend de tes nouvelles a ton retour.
A +.😎
nous pensons faire le même circuit que toi par nouvelles frontieres, mais nous n'avons pas encore réservé. As-tu eu le détail du voyage apres avoir réservé? Si c'est le cas ca te dérangerait de m'en dire un peu plus que ce qu'il y a sur le site?! Bon voyage, esperons que ca te plaise et on attend de tes nouvelles a ton retour.
A +.😎
Bonjour,
Nous avons effectués l'année dernière le même circuit au mois de juin. il a été un peu gaché par le temps (beaucoup de pluie) mais la météo est imprévisible.
nous étions regroupé avec plusieurs Tours opérateurs - (thomas cook - kuoni ect...) il y avait deux autocars et donc deux guides.
Un autocar neuf avec un guide qui paraissait très compétent et notre autocar plus trés récent avec un chauffage et une clim défaillant et un chauffeur qui effectué un remplacement au pied levé (le chauufeur habituel étant malade le 2ème jour) et un guide beaucoup moins compétent. et qui en plus devait s'occuper plus de l'itinéraire que de commenter les dfférentes visites.
exemple à Philadelphie une heure de visite (cloche de la liberté ect..) une heure et demie d'attente de l'autocar qui s'est perdu.
donc ce circuit est intéressant mais très rapide pour les différentes visites - beaucoup plus de temps passé dans le bus que de visites.
en espérant que vous aurez un guide à la hauteur.
nous étions regroupé avec plusieurs Tours opérateurs - (thomas cook - kuoni ect...) il y avait deux autocars et donc deux guides.
Un autocar neuf avec un guide qui paraissait très compétent et notre autocar plus trés récent avec un chauffage et une clim défaillant et un chauffeur qui effectué un remplacement au pied levé (le chauufeur habituel étant malade le 2ème jour) et un guide beaucoup moins compétent. et qui en plus devait s'occuper plus de l'itinéraire que de commenter les dfférentes visites.
exemple à Philadelphie une heure de visite (cloche de la liberté ect..) une heure et demie d'attente de l'autocar qui s'est perdu.
donc ce circuit est intéressant mais très rapide pour les différentes visites - beaucoup plus de temps passé dans le bus que de visites.
en espérant que vous aurez un guide à la hauteur.
salut a tous!!
je viens de rentrer de vacances et j'ai adoré..le circuit vaut le coup de le faire car meme si c'est beaucoup de route, on voit de tres belles choses. en plus, le guide et le chauffeur etait tres professionnelles, les visites sympas mais juste une petite chose, certains hotels étaient excentrés et il n'y avait rien a faire le soir..je pense qu'ils peuvent améliorer en proposant certains soirs des soirées .! mais dans l'ensemble, je le recommande a tout le monde de le faire et pour ma part, j'y retournerais!!! voila, les vacances sont finis...!!faut retourner au boulot demain!!! del
je viens de rentrer de vacances et j'ai adoré..le circuit vaut le coup de le faire car meme si c'est beaucoup de route, on voit de tres belles choses. en plus, le guide et le chauffeur etait tres professionnelles, les visites sympas mais juste une petite chose, certains hotels étaient excentrés et il n'y avait rien a faire le soir..je pense qu'ils peuvent améliorer en proposant certains soirs des soirées .! mais dans l'ensemble, je le recommande a tout le monde de le faire et pour ma part, j'y retournerais!!! voila, les vacances sont finis...!!faut retourner au boulot demain!!! del
Bonjour del67
Tu es satisfaite de ton voyage. Je voudrais faire le meme au début octobre et je partirai seul également. L'ambiance du groupe était elle sympathique? Y avait il des étrangers dans le groupe, ou etait ce uniquement des compatriotes? Quel genre de touristes? J'appréhende un peu, car on doit faire quand meme beaucoup de bus, et si ce n'est pas dans une ambiance sympathique!
Si tu as quelques détails ou des choses qu'il faut prévoir, je suis preneur de tes indications.
Je dois te préciser que j'ai 53 ans.
Merci et au plaisir
Daniel75
daniel75
bonjour
je vois dans le forum que vous avez fait usa canada au mois d'août dernier;nous envisageons de le faire avec la compagnie salaun en septembre prochain, qu'en avez-vous pensé paysages, longueur des étapes, sites ;enfin est-ce un voyage qui en vaut le coup ;merci de vos tuyaux
Bonjour,
Désolé Daniel, je ne suis pas venue sur le forum depuis longtemps... Le circuit était très bien : on été regroupés avec plusieurs agences, français et belges, age moyen plutot la cinquantaine, beaucoup de visites, du temps libre à New York pour faire du shoppping, le nombre de km parcouru par jour est largement supportable.. On voit beaucoup de choses en peu de temps mais cela permet malgré tout d'en profiter !
Bon voyage!
Désolé Daniel, je ne suis pas venue sur le forum depuis longtemps... Le circuit était très bien : on été regroupés avec plusieurs agences, français et belges, age moyen plutot la cinquantaine, beaucoup de visites, du temps libre à New York pour faire du shoppping, le nombre de km parcouru par jour est largement supportable.. On voit beaucoup de choses en peu de temps mais cela permet malgré tout d'en profiter !
Bon voyage!
merci beaucoup de tous ces renseignements, cela me donne encore plus envie d'y aller
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I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
Hello.
I’d like to travel along I-15N from San Diego to Las Vegas with my mom, who’s 67. We’ve explored Northern California and the California Coast over the past two years and now want to continue through the desert.
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
Hi there,
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Hi there,
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
Hi,
My 16-year-old son is flying to Grand Rapids with other kids his age. There’s a layover in Detroit. There’s no unaccompanied minor service available. Is it pretty easy to navigate Detroit Airport to catch the connecting flight to Grand Rapids (domestic flight)? There are several of them who speak English well.
Thanks for your replies,
Good evening, everyone! 🙂
Just a few last questions to wrap up our Lake Tahoe visit plans.
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Hi there. I'm shocked by the price of the Upper Antelope Canyon tour—$175 for less than an hour… You might say, "if you can’t afford it…" But the real question is whether it’s really worth it, because $350 for two makes me feel like I’m getting ripped off. For those who’ve done both Lower and Upper, can you tell me if the price difference is really justified? Thanks
Hi everyone! 🙂
As you can see, we're heading back from September 6th to the 27th.
Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us.
We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here's a tip for future visitors!
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
Hi everyone,
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
Thanks for advising me on the booking—should I reserve a room in the hotel or go for a cabin for the best view?
Should I get breakfast or not?
What do you think of the restaurant?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
Hello,
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse
Hi everyone.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.






