Change d'argent au Laos?
by Boullette
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour nous partons au Laos début Janvier, nous nous demandons quel argent faut il mieux emmener pour changer là bas : dollars, euros ou bath?
Est ce facile de trouver des distributeurs?
Et enfin si des personnes ont eux des coup de cœur pour certain endroits on est preneur, nous n'avons pas encore décidé du trajet, en sachant que nous partons 1 mois.
Merci par avance
Bonjour
Le dollar est roi au Cambodge, c'est la monnaie qu'il est prérérable d'emporter. Si vous allez à Siem Reap, pour visiter Angkor, les hôtels se payent en dollar et la plupart des banques ont des distributeurs de billets en dollars, notamment la Canada Bank dans une des rues centrales Bon voyage
modan
Le dollar est roi au Cambodge, c'est la monnaie qu'il est prérérable d'emporter. Si vous allez à Siem Reap, pour visiter Angkor, les hôtels se payent en dollar et la plupart des banques ont des distributeurs de billets en dollars, notamment la Canada Bank dans une des rues centrales Bon voyage
modan
Et il n'est rien de plus beau que l'instant qui précède le voyage, l'instant où l'horizon de demain vient nous rendre visite et nous dire ses promesses.
au Cambodge
Je pense que tu devrais relire le titre de la question...
Je pense que tu devrais relire le titre de la question...
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Change d'argent au Laos?
Comme ça.
Comme ça.
200 jours à pied,
seul, sans guide,
aux confins du Laos : CLIC
Effectivement le dollar reste le billet reference ayant de la valeur, mais le billet bleu (20 euros) est tres bien vu egalement
res bien vu, quant au bath, il sert pour avoir des "KIPS"locaux, 1 bath = 250 kips et sert pour les menues bricoles...
Donc pas de soucis dans tous les cas de figures!!!
http://www.retire-asia.com/lao-bank.shtml toutes les infos.......
Effectivement le dollar reste le billet reference ayant de la valeur,
Pas d'accord, l'euro le vaut désormais.
mais le billet bleu (20 euros) est tres bien vu egalement
Ben non, vaut mieux privilégier les plus grosses coupures (50 et 100 euros), leur taux de change est meilleur.
quant au bath, il sert pour avoir des "KIPS"
Pas besoin spécifiquement de baht pour obtenir des kips ! Les euros sont convertibles !
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Pas d'accord, l'euro le vaut désormais.
mais le billet bleu (20 euros) est tres bien vu egalement
Ben non, vaut mieux privilégier les plus grosses coupures (50 et 100 euros), leur taux de change est meilleur.
quant au bath, il sert pour avoir des "KIPS"
Pas besoin spécifiquement de baht pour obtenir des kips ! Les euros sont convertibles !
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Bonjour,
Si je peux me permettre l'argent c'est toujours l'argent, tout dépend de ce que vous voulez faire car c'est pratiquement tout est possible... Si vous sortez un peu du circuit traditionnel de préférence utiliser : le $ " moin de chiffre en ZERO " et la monnaie locale " beaucoup de chiffre en ZERO, mais vous saurez moin de commission pour vous " . Et si vous êtes bon en chiffre et en lettre échangez dès votre arrivée sur place et utilisez la monnaie locale comme ça vous avez moin de commission " moin intermedière, ça veut dire moin ce faire avoir". Mais on se fait avoir quand même au niveau des prix car ils sont rodés. Consernant les endroits à visiter : le laos a beaucoups de facette tout depend de ce que vous recherchez.
Bon vent.
Pas de soucis pour changer de l argent a VientiANE, les ATM ( distributeur ) poussent comme des champignons.
Sinon il y a plusieurs bureaux de changes Bord du Mekong, Talat Sao.
Nous venons d ouvrir avec mon amie Lao des terrains de petanque ou vous pourrez vous rafraichir et partager la convivialite des joueurs Locaux.
Ici il est facile de changer des EUR USD ou Baths. On peut meme regler des achats en Baths ou USD ce qui est moins vrai pour les EUR.
Concernant le cote coeur, les 2 etapes indispensables sont Luang Prabang ( prevoir une semaine complete de WE a WE pour bien profiter de la ville et ses environs) puis ensuite le sud (les 4000 iles, le Wat Phou (la aussi prevoir aussi une semaine de WE a WE) Ensuite il y a egalement Vang Vieng qui est sympa pour ses sites naturels grottes, rafting, ..
Bonjour
Je rentre tout juste du Laos. Il faut une partie de ses fonds (faible car peu ou pas utilisable en dehors de Vientiane et Luang Prabang) en dollars pour se premunir contre les variations du kip surtout des kips car pour profiter du pays il est bon d'aller dans la campagne ou les petites villes, ou le dollar est peu voire pas du tout accepte a ceci pres que si vous logez dans des grands hotels 3 ou 4 etoiles bien sur on acceptera les dollars. Pour ma part je prenais des guesthouses pas cher
Les baths au laos ne sont pas utilisables
Comme d'habitude il vaut mieux payer en carte bancaire quand vous pouvez (rare en dehors de vientiane et luang prabang) pour minimiser les frais (le retrait par carte de 700 000 kips coute 20 000 kips)
Gros coup de coeur : sur Don Det (ile dans le sud, dans Si Pan Don), le guesthouse Santiphab. A cote d'un pont, loin de l'agitation touristique du reste des iles, dans la nature, avec une mama preparant une super bouffe. Autre coup de coeur : Pakse. Pas tres beau, mais qu'est-ce qu'on si sent bien.
Je peux vous vendre 1 488 500 kips (174 euros au taux actuel de 8 600) pour 124 euros. Vous economisez donc 50 euros et de mon cote je me decharge des kips qui ne sont pas changeables en Europe
Bon voyage !
Xavier
06 71 76 15 43
x_auclair@hotmail.com
Salut,
Les baths au laos ne sont pas utilisables
Faux. Les bahts sont très appréciés dans quasiment tout le pays.
il vaut mieux payer en carte bancaire quand vous pouvez (...) (le retrait par carte de 700 000 kips coute 20 000 kips)
20 000 kips de com' à chaque fois et tu conseilles de payer en carte bancaire dès que l'on peut ? J'aurais pas compris ?
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Les baths au laos ne sont pas utilisables
Faux. Les bahts sont très appréciés dans quasiment tout le pays.
il vaut mieux payer en carte bancaire quand vous pouvez (...) (le retrait par carte de 700 000 kips coute 20 000 kips)
20 000 kips de com' à chaque fois et tu conseilles de payer en carte bancaire dès que l'on peut ? J'aurais pas compris ?
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200 jours à pied,
seul, sans guide,
aux confins du Laos : CLIC
Ben de facon plus detaillee :
quand on paye par carte on paie en general 3% de com. Ex sur 700 000 kips ont paie en plus 21 000 kips
quand on retire du cash dans un ATM, une com fixe de 20 000 kips est chargee quelque soit la somme retiree, le retrait max etant 700 000 kips. Donc au mieux on perd 20 000 / 700 000, ie 3% aussi, mais au pire on perd enormement, par exemple si on retire 200 000 on perd 20 000 / 200 000, ie 10%
En conclusion, il faut autant que possible payer par carte, ou alors ne faire que des retraits de 700 000 kips (car alors la com en gros est de 3% dans les deux cas), avec le risque que ca peut etre un peu dur a doser et qu'ensuite si on les ramene en France on galere pour les vendre.
En conclusion, il faut autant que possible payer par carte, ou alors ne faire que des retraits de 700 000 kips (car alors la com en gros est de 3% dans les deux cas), avec le risque que ca peut etre un peu dur a doser et qu'ensuite si on les ramene en France on galere pour les vendre.
Contrairement à ce qui est souvent écrit sur ce forum, les euro ne sont pas utilisables au Laos : se munir de dollars et changer pour avoir des kips, mais peu car non convertibles une fois sorti du pays. En fait, on peut tout payer en dollars, après avoir demandé le prix en kips, et l' on vous rend la monnaie en dollars ou en kips. Le retrait par carte Visa, même s'il est annoncé sans commission, implique une commission de votre banque en France (5€ de fixe par retrait + 1, 5 à 3 pour cent, ce qui n'est pas négligeable).
Si vous voyagez avec du cash sur vous, soyez vigilents, la criminalité existe comme partout dans le monde désormais, en particulier à Louang Prabang, qui devient une ville stressante et bruyante, avec des vols à la tire ( misère des paysans qui débarquent de la campagne) opérés par des motards.
Cette ville ne va d'ailleurs pas rester longtemps au Patrimoine Mondial, elle est envahie de touristes et les guest house y poussent au porte à porte. Cependant, en Février, ne comptez pas vous y loger si vous n'avez pas dûment réservé.
J'ai fui Luang Prabang ( boules quies à prévoir pour dormir) et beaucoup aimé Vientiane, les Bolovens et Don Det et Don Khon, très très paisibles.
Marineige
les euro ne sont pas utilisables au Laos : se munir de dollars et changer pour avoir des kips
LES EUROS SE CHANGENT DANS TOUTES LES BANQUES DU LAOS (CELLES QUI PRATIQUENT LE CHANGE) ET DANS TOUS LES BUREAUX DE CHANGE.
LES EUROS SE CHANGENT DANS TOUTES LES BANQUES DU LAOS (CELLES QUI PRATIQUENT LE CHANGE) ET DANS TOUS LES BUREAUX DE CHANGE.
200 jours à pied,
seul, sans guide,
aux confins du Laos : CLIC
la criminalité existe comme partout dans le monde
Faux. La criminalité y est infiniment moindre que dans beaucoup d'autres endroits du monde.
désormais, en particulier à Louang Prabang, qui devient une ville stressante et bruyante, avec des vols à la tire (...) opérés par des motards.
Juste une question : es-tu bien certaine de revenir du Laos ?
Cette ville ne va d'ailleurs pas rester longtemps au Patrimoine Mondial, elle est envahie de touristes et les guest house y poussent au porte à porte.
L'inscription de la ville au "Patrimoine Mondial" n'est absolument pas liée au nombre de touristes et de GH du lieu.
Faux. La criminalité y est infiniment moindre que dans beaucoup d'autres endroits du monde.
désormais, en particulier à Louang Prabang, qui devient une ville stressante et bruyante, avec des vols à la tire (...) opérés par des motards.
Juste une question : es-tu bien certaine de revenir du Laos ?
Cette ville ne va d'ailleurs pas rester longtemps au Patrimoine Mondial, elle est envahie de touristes et les guest house y poussent au porte à porte.
L'inscription de la ville au "Patrimoine Mondial" n'est absolument pas liée au nombre de touristes et de GH du lieu.
200 jours à pied,
seul, sans guide,
aux confins du Laos : CLIC
Bien sûr que les euro se changent dans une banque, mais impossible si tu entres dans le pays un Vendredi soir et ce, jusqu'au Lundi matin.
Pour la délinquance, c'est un phénomène qui a surgi il y a peu, c'est une facette de la mondialisation.
La dégradation de Louang Prabang tient à de nombreux facteurs, il faudrait des pages pour en parler. Avez-vous remarqué, au fameux point de vue sur la ville et le Mékong depuis le Phu Si, ce poteau électrique qui barre la vue ? no comment !
Marineige
Bien sûr que les euro se changent dans une banque,
Ah bon, ben faudrait savoir. Juste avant tu écrivais : "Contrairement à ce qui est souvent écrit sur ce forum, les euro ne sont pas utilisables au Laos : se munir de dollars".
mais impossible si tu entres dans le pays un Vendredi soir et ce, jusqu'au Lundi matin.
Ben oui mais puisque tu causes tant de LP, je te signale que tu y as un bureau de change ouvert 7j/7. A Vientiane aussi. Et dans les villes tu trouves toujours à changer, même un w.e.
Pour la délinquance, c'est un phénomène qui a surgi il y a peu, c'est une facette de la mondialisation.
Oui, et une autre facette de cette "mondialisation" fût ta présence là-bas.
Avez-vous remarqué, au fameux point de vue sur la ville et le Mékong depuis le Phu Si, ce poteau électrique qui barre la vue ? no comment !
Effectivement, un panorama touristique à 360° honteusement obstrué par un (sic) poteau électrique, c'est révoltant. Je propose qu'on impose un choix aux habitants de LP : l'électrisation de leur ville ou son inscription aux listes de l'Unesco...
Ah bon, ben faudrait savoir. Juste avant tu écrivais : "Contrairement à ce qui est souvent écrit sur ce forum, les euro ne sont pas utilisables au Laos : se munir de dollars".
mais impossible si tu entres dans le pays un Vendredi soir et ce, jusqu'au Lundi matin.
Ben oui mais puisque tu causes tant de LP, je te signale que tu y as un bureau de change ouvert 7j/7. A Vientiane aussi. Et dans les villes tu trouves toujours à changer, même un w.e.
Pour la délinquance, c'est un phénomène qui a surgi il y a peu, c'est une facette de la mondialisation.
Oui, et une autre facette de cette "mondialisation" fût ta présence là-bas.
Avez-vous remarqué, au fameux point de vue sur la ville et le Mékong depuis le Phu Si, ce poteau électrique qui barre la vue ? no comment !
Effectivement, un panorama touristique à 360° honteusement obstrué par un (sic) poteau électrique, c'est révoltant. Je propose qu'on impose un choix aux habitants de LP : l'électrisation de leur ville ou son inscription aux listes de l'Unesco...
200 jours à pied,
seul, sans guide,
aux confins du Laos : CLIC
Salut,
nous sommes allés a Vientiane en octobre, que qq jours, après avoir interrogé pas mal de personnes sur le forum, nous avons finalement décidé de prendre des dollars (changé ici qq mois plus tot) que nous avons changé au fur et à mesure là bas, en kip.
avons payé en dollars, l'hotel, la moto, les petites dépenses payées en kip
nous avons préferé faire comme ça parce qu'on nous avait prévenu et nous l'avons constaté, ils demandent toujours plus cher, faut tout le temps discuter les prix, y a pas mal d'arnaque dans l'air et aussi c'es plus facile a calculer les prix demandés
le change nous le faisions dans les banques qui sont fermées le we, mais il nous est arrivé de faire du change dans un magasin kodak, la dame nous l'avait fait au meme taux qu'à la banque
par contre nous n'avons pas vu tant de changes comme en thailande
nous y sommes allés, mais nous n'y retounerons plus, franchemnt je ne me sentais pas à l'aise à vientiane, en plus c'est trop calme pour nous, le soir y a rien, c'est mort, à part leur fête foraine le long du mékong, qui dure qq jours je pense, tous ces jeunes avaient l'air fou de joie, il y avait un nombre incroyable de jeunes le soir à cette fête, bien que les attractions sont pas terribles, on aurait dit les fêtes foraines d'avant guerre ici, mais bon l'important c'est qu'ils avaient l'air heureux,
a part ça c'est une belle ville aux grandes avenues (à la française) ça m'a impressioné, je ne me sentais pas trop dépaysée, leur mini arc de triomphe, etc... l'hotel était très bien, mais.... là où je ne me sentais pas à l'aise, le soir, toutes les grilles des maisons cadenassées, dans les hotels ils rentraient carrément les moto dans la réception, à l'hotel le soir la grille également fermée (pas a clef amais bon), la loueuse de moto nous avait demandé de cadenasser la moto (2sortes) rentrer les casques...woaw
par contre les gens sont super gentils et énormément souriants, ils n'arretaient pas de rire en nous voyant (2blancs) passer à moto, je ne sais pas ils ont jamais ou presque vu ça ou quoi???😏
Je rentre du Laos, prendre des euros ( 1 € = 10800 kip le 4 decembre ) change plus interessant dans les villes, donc prévoir de changer avant d aller dans les endroits un peu reculés ( les îles, Muang Sing, Nongkiaw, Muang Ngoi ).
Change différent suivant les banques, Western Union le moins interessant.
Pilan
Pilan
HELLO
CHANGE DU JOUR A LA BANQUE POUR LE COMMERCE EXTERIEUR LAO
100 EUROS = 1145300 KIPS OUPSSSSSSSSSSSS
le kip est plus favorable de l' avoir, il y a moins de souci avec le taux de change
la route pakbeng oudomxai : un vrai plaisir visuel et là tu comprends tout de suite que la thailande est déjà loin, ici c'est pas l'abondance et le niveau de vie largement plus faible ! le coup d'oeil dans les villages !
j'ai laissé dans le slow boat de houaixai à pakbeng 100% farengs dont 50% drinking beer all day !
j'ai pris mon sac et largué les amarres pour le nord est ! en transit sur oudom xai pour rejoindre Nong kiaw 😉
CHANGE DU JOUR A LA BANQUE POUR LE COMMERCE EXTERIEUR LAO
100 EUROS = 1145300 KIPS OUPSSSSSSSSSSSS
le kip est plus favorable de l' avoir, il y a moins de souci avec le taux de change
la route pakbeng oudomxai : un vrai plaisir visuel et là tu comprends tout de suite que la thailande est déjà loin, ici c'est pas l'abondance et le niveau de vie largement plus faible ! le coup d'oeil dans les villages !
j'ai laissé dans le slow boat de houaixai à pakbeng 100% farengs dont 50% drinking beer all day !
j'ai pris mon sac et largué les amarres pour le nord est ! en transit sur oudom xai pour rejoindre Nong kiaw 😉
Heureusement que tu es la pour faire un sort a toutes ces niaiseries !
Tiens, dernierement, j'ai lu un panneau, ecrit en anglais, dans le batiment climatiser de Talat Sao, qui conseille :
Au Laos, payer vos achats en kips !
Voyager c'est découvrir que tout le monde a tort.
Aldous Huxley
Salut,
Dans les bangs, les pipes à eau (jour 14), une spécialité de la province de Phongsaly, ce n'est que du tabac que l'on fume, mais exclusivement un type très particulier : il est jaune vif, très fin et très soyeux, on dirait presque de la ouate jaune.
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Dans les bangs, les pipes à eau (jour 14), une spécialité de la province de Phongsaly, ce n'est que du tabac que l'on fume, mais exclusivement un type très particulier : il est jaune vif, très fin et très soyeux, on dirait presque de la ouate jaune.
A + 321
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De rien.
Mais alors, qu'est-ce que tu as fait de beau vers Phongsaly, depuis notre conversation d'autrefois ?
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Mais alors, qu'est-ce que tu as fait de beau vers Phongsaly, depuis notre conversation d'autrefois ?
A + 321
200 jours à pied,
seul, sans guide,
aux confins du Laos : CLIC
Je me suis un peu balladé mais un crève carabinée et tenace m'a mis sur les rotules et empêché d'explorer plus avant le secteur.
Et là, je suis rentré en France depuis une semaine après un mois au Cambodge et un petit pélerinage à Luang Prabang (je sais, c'est plein de touristes mais moi j'ai une faiblesse pour ses ruelles et le Mt Phousy au lever du soleil... 😛)
Et là, je suis rentré en France depuis une semaine après un mois au Cambodge et un petit pélerinage à Luang Prabang (je sais, c'est plein de touristes mais moi j'ai une faiblesse pour ses ruelles et le Mt Phousy au lever du soleil... 😛)
Bonjour
Peut-être que mon blogue pourrait t'être utile dans la préparation de ton voyage au Laos. J'y ai passé 6 semaines en 2007.
Alors, c'est ICI
J'ai nettement préféré le nord montagneux du Laos.
Bon voyage
Jacques
P.S. Très difficile de changer des kips hors du pays, même en Thailande
Peut-être que mon blogue pourrait t'être utile dans la préparation de ton voyage au Laos. J'y ai passé 6 semaines en 2007.
Alors, c'est ICI
J'ai nettement préféré le nord montagneux du Laos.
Bon voyage
Jacques
P.S. Très difficile de changer des kips hors du pays, même en Thailande
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Thanks, PS: My trip is planned for November
Hi everyone, I’m back on the forum.
I’m searching for a real gem for my 3rd stay in Koh Lanta: a lovely, high-quality hotel right by an easily accessible beach in a lively spot. If you know of anything that fits what I’m looking for and want to share, don’t hesitate!
Thanks so much!
Marsyork
I’m searching for a real gem for my 3rd stay in Koh Lanta: a lovely, high-quality hotel right by an easily accessible beach in a lively spot. If you know of anything that fits what I’m looking for and want to share, don’t hesitate!
Thanks so much!
Marsyork
Hi, is anyone there in Flores right now? According to some websites, everything is closed and the situation is tough. But our guide says it's fine. Who should we believe? We're supposed to leave on September 2nd. Thanks to anyone in Flores at the moment!
Hi dear community,
I'm planning to visit Cambodia this winter, right after Christmas, for my first solo trip and my first trip to Asia. For two weeks (yes, I know it's short, but I really can't do more...). I have two main desires: Siem Reap and the countryside, the villages, the Mekong...
What do you think of this itinerary? Arrival in Siem Reap, departure from Phnom Penh.
SR: 5 days (1 day for arrival, 3 for the temples, 1 for the lake and its villages)
Kratie (stop on the way to Mondolkiri): 3 days (1 day of travel, 2 days there)
Mondolkiri/Sen Monorom: 4 days (1 day of travel, 1 day there, 2 days of treks)
PP: 3 days (1 day of travel, 2 days of sightseeing)
I think I need to cut one day somewhere if I travel from Saturday to Saturday or Sunday to Sunday. In Kratie, maybe? Or in PP? And I'll miss the boat trip that everyone recommends (SR-Battambang), but I don't see where to fit it in. Unless I do a PP-PP loop starting in the east, skip Kratie or just stay one night, then SR, then PP.
In my timing, Mondolkiri seems closer than Ratanakiri, which also tempted me a lot! Will it be too complicated alone? I'm thinking of using local guides or a small local agency for a nature and village getaway.
I've read that Siem Reap is very crowded between Christmas and New Year's. I could also do the circuit in the opposite direction. But I thought it would be easier to get familiar with the country by arriving in a touristy area—I might be wrong...
Thanks for your advice and opinions!
Hi everyone.
I’m planning my trip, and based on all the posts I’ve read, this country is amazing.
Of course, I’ve got a ton of questions for you.
Here’s a possible itinerary: Vientiane - Vang Vieng - Phonsavan - Sam Neua - Nong Khiaw + villages - Phongsali - Luang Namtha and the area - Udomxai - Huay Xai - Luang Prabang and back to Vientiane.
What do you think?
We’re planning to prioritize local transport—is it possible to do this loop?
We’d also love to go kayaking, but I’m not sure if the season’s right or where the best spot is.
For trekking—I read that Phongsali is the most authentic spot to visit villages and see wildlife. Do you know of a reliable agency and a guesthouse with reasonable prices? Is it worth taking a slow boat for a stretch on the Mekong, and if so, which route?
For accommodations, is it better to book through Booking.com and Agoda or look when we arrive?
Are mosquitoes bad in Laos, and should we take malaria prophylaxis? What’s the average daily budget (accommodation, food, visits)?
Is renting scooters a good option for exploring towns, and if so, which ones?
From what I’ve read, it’s best to carry cash—euros or dollars? Is it risky to walk around with that much cash?
I’ve still got tons of questions. Thanks to anyone who can help, and I’m open to all tips, info, etc. Thanks again
For trekking—I read that Phongsali is the most authentic spot to visit villages and see wildlife. Do you know of a reliable agency and a guesthouse with reasonable prices? Is it worth taking a slow boat for a stretch on the Mekong, and if so, which route?
For accommodations, is it better to book through Booking.com and Agoda or look when we arrive?
Are mosquitoes bad in Laos, and should we take malaria prophylaxis? What’s the average daily budget (accommodation, food, visits)?
Is renting scooters a good option for exploring towns, and if so, which ones?
From what I’ve read, it’s best to carry cash—euros or dollars? Is it risky to walk around with that much cash?
I’ve still got tons of questions. Thanks to anyone who can help, and I’m open to all tips, info, etc. Thanks again
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Vietnam in February, specifically Da Nang and Hoi An.
Does anyone know a French-speaking guide in the area?
Thanks for your help
Hi there,
I’m planning a family trip (my wife and I, both 47, and our two sons, aged 5 and 12) to Malaysia for the last week of June and the first two weeks of July 2027.
We used to love road trips as a couple, then as a trio, but since our second child arrived, we’ve taken a break with "camping village" style trips.
Now feels like the right time to get back to our old habits, while adjusting the pace for the kids.
We’re craving Asia. We’ve been lucky enough to visit Thailand, Indonesia (Bali and Lombok), and Sri Lanka before.
Friends have raved about Malaysia, so we’re definitely tempted.
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hello,
We’re a family of four with two teens aged 16 and 18. We’re heading to Thailand this summer. We’ll arrive in Bangkok and plan to take a flight to Luang Prabang.
I’ve seen there are some great visits and excursions to do (temples, markets, waterfalls) and maybe even venture a bit north to places like Nong Khiaw, Muang Xay, Muang Ngoy, or Oudom Xay.
But I’ve also heard about the Bokeo region with the Gibbon Experience.
Since we won’t be able to do everything, I’d love to hear about your experiences, impressions, and advice on the two options I’m considering, especially since we’ll be meeting family in Chiang Mai, Thailand, afterward.
Option 1: A loop from Luang Prabang heading slightly north, then a flight from Luang Prabang to Chiang Mai.
Option 2: A few days in Luang Prabang, exploring within a few dozen kilometers around, then heading to Bokeo province for the 2-day/1-night Gibbon Experience. For this option, I saw on Rome2Rio that it’s possible to book a ferry trip on the Mekong from Luang Prabang to Huay Xay—they mention about 8 hours. But is that realistic? What type of boat is it? Then, to get to Chiang Mai, there aren’t many options—bus or minivan—but how does crossing the border work?
Finally, for those of you who’ve been to Laos in August, what was the weather like? We’ve already visited Thailand, Vietnam, and Cambodia during the same period over the past four years and weren’t really bothered by bad weather.
Thanks for your feedback! Best regards, Aurélien
Option 1: A loop from Luang Prabang heading slightly north, then a flight from Luang Prabang to Chiang Mai.
Option 2: A few days in Luang Prabang, exploring within a few dozen kilometers around, then heading to Bokeo province for the 2-day/1-night Gibbon Experience. For this option, I saw on Rome2Rio that it’s possible to book a ferry trip on the Mekong from Luang Prabang to Huay Xay—they mention about 8 hours. But is that realistic? What type of boat is it? Then, to get to Chiang Mai, there aren’t many options—bus or minivan—but how does crossing the border work?
Finally, for those of you who’ve been to Laos in August, what was the weather like? We’ve already visited Thailand, Vietnam, and Cambodia during the same period over the past four years and weren’t really bothered by bad weather.
Thanks for your feedback! Best regards, Aurélien
I’m starting a discussion about guides in the Mekong Delta because we’ve just finished our trip in this region and had a hard time finding a French-speaking guide. We had Thanh—she speaks French really well and travels all over the delta region, including Ho Chi Minh City. She’s super friendly and flexible. I recommend her wholeheartedly. If it can help someone...
Feel free to contact us for her number.
Hi everyone,
I couldn’t find any recent info on Kuching.
Can anyone recommend a hotel or guesthouse for under 100 RM that’s nice and affordable? No dorms, please.
Also, does it rain a lot in November, and is it still worth visiting Semenggoh or Bako?
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hey everyone,
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip? I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Thanks! 🙂
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip? I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Thanks! 🙂
Hi everyone,
After a stay on Koh Phayam this coming November, I’d like to spend 2 or 3 days on Koh Phra Thong before heading further south.
Do you think it’s doable to leave Koh Phayam early enough to catch the 10 AM boat from Khura Buri to Koh Phra Thong? The next one isn’t until 4 PM, which would cost me a whole day.
Thanks
After a stay on Koh Phayam this coming November, I’d like to spend 2 or 3 days on Koh Phra Thong before heading further south.
Do you think it’s doable to leave Koh Phayam early enough to catch the 10 AM boat from Khura Buri to Koh Phra Thong? The next one isn’t until 4 PM, which would cost me a whole day.
Thanks
Hi,
I’m planning a trip to Indonesia, specifically Sulawesi and Java, in September for 10 days. I don’t know this part of the world at all—any advice is welcome! I’ll be traveling solo and would also love tips on meeting other travelers or locals.
Thanks
I’m planning a trip to Indonesia, specifically Sulawesi and Java, in September for 10 days. I don’t know this part of the world at all—any advice is welcome! I’ll be traveling solo and would also love tips on meeting other travelers or locals.
Thanks
Hello everyone,
Not long ago, I used to travel as a couple, but my husband has since passed away, and I’ve decided to set off again. The trip I took to Cambodia in January 2025 did me a world of good.
I’m now considering Thailand, a destination we never included in our plans because even 15 years ago, people said it was too touristy. Still, I’m thinking about the itinerary below, but I don’t feel up to arranging buses, trains, or guides on my own while I’m there. I’m looking for one or more drivers and have been in touch with an agency, but their offers are just copy-paste group tours that I don’t want.
So, if you have any contacts, experiences, or advice, I’d be so grateful if you’d share them with me. Here’s my rough plan:
Arrival in Bangkok
Ayutthaya (2 nights)
Kanchanaburi (2 or 3 nights)
Sangkhlaburi/Sai Yok (3 nights)
Sukhothai (2 nights)
Lampang (I’ve planned 3 nights, but that might be a bit much—it depends on what time I arrive in the city)
Chiang Mai
Chiang Dao
Pai
Chiang Rai
I was thinking about the Mae Hong Son loop—thoughts?
What do you think about staying overnight at the Golden Triangle?
When I look online, of course, I can find agencies that organize tours to national parks, etc.
I’m retired but in great physical shape. I’d rather go hiking than sit in hot springs with crowds of tourists who’ve all arranged meet-ups. I don’t want to spend a day at an elephant camp, and I don’t want to visit Karen villages.
I’d love to hear your advice.
Thank you all,
Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
Time to hit the road again!
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Hello,
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
Hello everyone,
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.







