Circuit sud Maroc avec Marmara
by Rguette
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Nous avons effectué le circuit sud marocain proposé par la société Marmara du 11 au 18 avril 2013. Au cours de ce circuit, le guide nous a conduits dans un établissement fabriquant des tables en marbre fossiles, à Erfoud, en nous vantant la qualité des produits. Sur ses conseils, nous avons acheté une table de salon à un prix qui, au retour, comparé au prix proposé sur Internet par un autre vendeur, nous parait exorbitant ( 950 euros au lieu de 600 à 700). Nous avons, sans succès, essayé de contacter le vendeur et la société Marmara pour tenter d'obtenir réparation. Cette pratique semble courante, les guides marocains étant probablement rémunérés confortablement par les vendeurs.
Conseil: NE RIEN acheter dans les boutiques où les guides nous conduisent (sauf à posséder des talents de négociateurs hors du commun), et/ou éviter d'utiliser les services de la société Marmara.
Raymond GUETTE
Hello
en fait le système est un peu plus compliqué...
La première entité à être rémunérée, c'est Marmara. Les magasins payent en effet des grosses commissions pour que les guides s'arrêtent sur place. Celui là je ne sais pas, mais certains bazars, qui font un gros chiffre d'affaires, peuvent payer plus de 100.000 € de commission annuelle. Ces sommes sont une des raisons pour lesquelles les gros tours opérators peuvent se permettre de faire des offres à prix sacrifiés.
Ensuite, il y a le circuit lui même. Évidemment le guide touche une commission, sinon il ne vous incitera pas à vous arrêter dans ce magasin. Mais il ne vous emmènera pas non plus dans un autre bazar, car c'est d'abord Marmara qui décide de où vous allez faire les achats. Et les salaires fixes des guides ne sont pas très élevés car les organisations savent qu'ils touchent des commissions.
Ici on parle de Marmara, mais c'est la même chose pour les autres gros TO, comme Fram et autres...
C'est grâce à cela qu'ils peuvent se permettre de proposer des tarifs très bas par rapport aux agences locales, ou au petites agences, parce qu'ils se rattrapent sur les à côté.
Finalement, c'est un peu le même système que les supermarchés, qui font payer aux fournisseurs leurs référencement...
en fait le système est un peu plus compliqué...
La première entité à être rémunérée, c'est Marmara. Les magasins payent en effet des grosses commissions pour que les guides s'arrêtent sur place. Celui là je ne sais pas, mais certains bazars, qui font un gros chiffre d'affaires, peuvent payer plus de 100.000 € de commission annuelle. Ces sommes sont une des raisons pour lesquelles les gros tours opérators peuvent se permettre de faire des offres à prix sacrifiés.
Ensuite, il y a le circuit lui même. Évidemment le guide touche une commission, sinon il ne vous incitera pas à vous arrêter dans ce magasin. Mais il ne vous emmènera pas non plus dans un autre bazar, car c'est d'abord Marmara qui décide de où vous allez faire les achats. Et les salaires fixes des guides ne sont pas très élevés car les organisations savent qu'ils touchent des commissions.
Ici on parle de Marmara, mais c'est la même chose pour les autres gros TO, comme Fram et autres...
C'est grâce à cela qu'ils peuvent se permettre de proposer des tarifs très bas par rapport aux agences locales, ou au petites agences, parce qu'ils se rattrapent sur les à côté.
Finalement, c'est un peu le même système que les supermarchés, qui font payer aux fournisseurs leurs référencement...
Des infos pour vivre et travailler au Maroc : http://o-maroc.com
Malheureusement la pratique est courante. J'ai eu la même impression ce printemps avec un simple chauffeur de bus privé.....qui nous a emmené dans (le même ?) atelier de fossiles à Erfoud .....visite guidée et passage obligé à la boutique !...puis dans une boutique d'eau de Rose à El kelââ des m'Gouna, puis une "soi-disant" coopérative d'huilerie d'Argan....etc. Assez fatiguant. Le mieux est de ne pas acheter....dans ces endroits. Mais il est vrai que c'est problématique...surtout si on aimerait bien acheter de la vraie huile d'argan, de la vraie huile essentielle de rose, etc. Les visites guidées par des guides officiels dans la médina de Marrakech finissent toujours par une visite dans les "phramacies" traditionnelle, bazar de tapis, etc.....Si quelqu'un connaît la solution..... Merci !
qui nous a emmené dans (le même ?) atelier de fossiles à Erfoud
Si c'est celui auquel je pense, il fait des bons produits :)
.....visite guidée et passage obligé à la boutique !
Comme dans n'importe quelle "entreprise" qui fait visiter son établissement...
...puis dans une boutique d'eau de Rose à El kelââ des m'Gouna
Où les marocains se fournissent aussi
Le mieux est de ne pas acheter....dans ces endroits.
Bah, la qualité du produit ne sera pas différente ailleurs. Le prix non plus, si on connait les prix...
surtout si on aimerait bien acheter de la vraie huile d'argan, de la vraie huile essentielle de rose
Mais ces produits sont fabriqués pour l'exportation. L'huile essentielle de rose, personne ne l'utilise ici, de façon traditionnelle. Pourquoi vouloir l'acheter sur place alors ? Elle n'est pas différente de celle qu'on trouve à Grasse ou ailleurs... et pas moins chère (les entreprises qui les fabriquent connaissent parfaitement les prix, et ont des débouchés internationaux). De plus, les conditionnements marocains sont souvent de moindre qualité (pas de verre opaque, etc...)
La vraie huile d'argan se trouve sans problème, mais elle est chère. Et comme elle est chère, elle ne se trouve pas dans les petites boutiques (ou alors, avec le risque accru d'acheter une contrefaçon).
Les visites guidées par des guides officiels dans la médina de Marrakech finissent toujours par une visite dans les "pharmacies" traditionnelle, bazar de tapis, etc.....Si quelqu'un connaît la solution..... Merci !
Ce n'est pas différent de ce qui se passe en Europe pour les visites guidées. Peut être un peu moins "hypocrite", mais pas différent.
La solution ? Profiter de la visite, apprendre à négocier, ne pas acheter, et retourner un autre jour, seul, en ayant une bonne idée de ce qu'on veut et de combien cela coûte.
Si c'est celui auquel je pense, il fait des bons produits :)
.....visite guidée et passage obligé à la boutique !
Comme dans n'importe quelle "entreprise" qui fait visiter son établissement...
...puis dans une boutique d'eau de Rose à El kelââ des m'Gouna
Où les marocains se fournissent aussi
Le mieux est de ne pas acheter....dans ces endroits.
Bah, la qualité du produit ne sera pas différente ailleurs. Le prix non plus, si on connait les prix...
surtout si on aimerait bien acheter de la vraie huile d'argan, de la vraie huile essentielle de rose
Mais ces produits sont fabriqués pour l'exportation. L'huile essentielle de rose, personne ne l'utilise ici, de façon traditionnelle. Pourquoi vouloir l'acheter sur place alors ? Elle n'est pas différente de celle qu'on trouve à Grasse ou ailleurs... et pas moins chère (les entreprises qui les fabriquent connaissent parfaitement les prix, et ont des débouchés internationaux). De plus, les conditionnements marocains sont souvent de moindre qualité (pas de verre opaque, etc...)
La vraie huile d'argan se trouve sans problème, mais elle est chère. Et comme elle est chère, elle ne se trouve pas dans les petites boutiques (ou alors, avec le risque accru d'acheter une contrefaçon).
Les visites guidées par des guides officiels dans la médina de Marrakech finissent toujours par une visite dans les "pharmacies" traditionnelle, bazar de tapis, etc.....Si quelqu'un connaît la solution..... Merci !
Ce n'est pas différent de ce qui se passe en Europe pour les visites guidées. Peut être un peu moins "hypocrite", mais pas différent.
La solution ? Profiter de la visite, apprendre à négocier, ne pas acheter, et retourner un autre jour, seul, en ayant une bonne idée de ce qu'on veut et de combien cela coûte.
Des infos pour vivre et travailler au Maroc : http://o-maroc.com
Merci pour vos explications. La solution est, bien sûr, de ne rien acheter immédiatement. Malheureusement, quand nous participons à un circuit organisé, il est impossible de revenir seul le lendemain. Donc, je renouvelle mon conseil: NE RIEN ACHETER pendant le circuit, et, éventuellement, vous renseigner calmement au retour si un produit a attiré votre attention. Si cette règle était observée par tous les touristes, les pratiques des tours opérateurs et des guides changeraient peut-être (on peut rêver). Mais, évidemment, il est parfois difficile de résister à un coup de coeur.
Raymond GUETTE
Voila pourquoi je suis passée par une petite agence tenu par des français qui vous prépare un petit circuit selon vos envie.
Je suis également passé par une agence sur place et c'était exactement pareil que marmara, le guide nous a fait manger DANS SON RESTAURANT, on avait même pas le temps de s'arrêter pour regarder un peu les boutiques de souvenirs, il a tracé à son restaurant. C'était pour les cascades D'ouzoud, inadmissible de prendre autant le touriste pour un con !
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Bonjour,
La meilleure façon de profiter d'un séjour est de l'organiser soit même (avec l'aide du Forum), un guide n'est pas nécessaire pour visiter le maroc Prendre un vol sec, louer un véhicule et ne pas hésiter à sortir des sentiers habituels à touristes. Le vrai Maroc, l'authentique ne se trouve pas sur les circuits touristiques. Sachez que tant que vous respecterez le pays et les gens qui vous accueillent, vous serez très bien reçus même (et surtout) dans les coins les plus isolés du pays. Nous avons adopté ce principe et nous n'en retirons que du plaisir, découverte de lieux magnifiques, échanges enrichissant, ....
Bon séjour et faites d'agréables découvertes.
La meilleure façon de profiter d'un séjour est de l'organiser soit même (avec l'aide du Forum), un guide n'est pas nécessaire pour visiter le maroc Prendre un vol sec, louer un véhicule et ne pas hésiter à sortir des sentiers habituels à touristes. Le vrai Maroc, l'authentique ne se trouve pas sur les circuits touristiques. Sachez que tant que vous respecterez le pays et les gens qui vous accueillent, vous serez très bien reçus même (et surtout) dans les coins les plus isolés du pays. Nous avons adopté ce principe et nous n'en retirons que du plaisir, découverte de lieux magnifiques, échanges enrichissant, ....
Bon séjour et faites d'agréables découvertes.
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Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
A lot of people find it important to stick to their budget when traveling—not to skimp, but to visit as many places as possible since traveling is their hobby.
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Hi,
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)






