Circuit sur les villes impériales du Maroc
by Mamounette39
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bonjour a tous
Avec mon ami, nous avons reservé ce circuit par le tour operateur "marmara" via "leclerc". nous partons le
31 decembre, hé oui, peut etre un reveillon dans l'avion.... original comme reveillon... Y a t'il quelqu'un qui partira en meme temps que nous ? en, tous cas, j'aimerais avoir des renseignements sur ce circuit, et sur la météo de cette periode de l'année. si quelqu'un a deja fait ce circuit, merci de me donner vos impressions....
a bientot
Bonjour,
Nous avons fait ce circuit avec le sud en même temps à l'époque ils faisaient les 2 en 15 jours !!!!
C'est très bien, avec n'importe quel opérateur, on se retrouve tous dans les même endroits et souvent dans les mêmes hôtels !!!
J'ai quelques photos qui montrent un tout petit aperçu des merveilles de ce pays.
Bon voyage
@+ Michel T@
http://michel.talon.free.fr
a+ Michel T@
http://michel.talon.free.fr
Mamounette, salam aleikoum !
Ma premiére exprérience dans ce beau pays est d'avoir fait le circuit des villes impériales avec marmara ! Marrakech, casa, rabat, fés, meknes etc ...
Rien à dire, j'ai trouvé que c' était une excellente approche ! Bonne prise en charge, un peu de trajet certes, mais on fait du chemin, hôtel trés agréable ... Attention tout de même, le guide vous méne dans des endroits à " touristes ", et prendre des cachets pour ne pas être malade dans le car !! Bon séjour à vous !
Ma premiére exprérience dans ce beau pays est d'avoir fait le circuit des villes impériales avec marmara ! Marrakech, casa, rabat, fés, meknes etc ...
Rien à dire, j'ai trouvé que c' était une excellente approche ! Bonne prise en charge, un peu de trajet certes, mais on fait du chemin, hôtel trés agréable ... Attention tout de même, le guide vous méne dans des endroits à " touristes ", et prendre des cachets pour ne pas être malade dans le car !! Bon séjour à vous !
bonjour
merci beaucoup pour ce voyage en image, je pense que nous ne serons pas deçu, vos photos donnent vraiment envie de visiter ces merveilles. Nous ne ferons pas le sud hélas, ce n'était pas prévue au programme, mais si cette première approche nous a plu, cela donnera l'occasion d'un autre voyage plus tard.
encore merci Michel46
a bientot
mamounette39
prevoyez des habits chaud il risque de faire bien frais surtout en fin et debut de journee
bonjour,
Merci grifeuille pour cette impression positive. nous partons aussi avec marmara, pouvez vous me dire si il y a des piscines couvertes dans les hotels (doit on prevoir le maillot de bains ? j'hesite car on sera en janvier)
En ce qui concerne le guide, je m'attend bien a ce qu'il nous emmene dans les magasins de tapis, cuir etc.. j'ai eu la meme chose en tunisie où je suis allée 2 fois. je pense que ce sera le meme genre.
Vous me parlez des cars, les transports sont ils si mauvais ? de toute façon, je compte bien emporter des cachets car mon ami est souvent malade quand il ne conduit pas. j'ai vu que les distances sont environ 250 à 300 km, personnellement ça ne me fait pas peur car je suis allée au canada, et là..... minimun 500 km pas jour, c'était epuisant.
si vous avez d'autre conseil, je vous en remercie à l'avance. J'ai hate de partir....
a bientot
Mamounette39
merci nemo1001
je vais prevoir, mais j'espère quand meme avoir un peu de soleil, ça me changera de la grisaille de la région parisienne
a bientot
mamounette39
le soleil n'est pas synonique de chaud!
et surtout attend toi a des temperatures basses pour les matinee et les soirees
et surtout attend toi a des temperatures basses pour les matinee et les soirees
Mamounette,
Que je me souvienne il n'y avait pas de piscines couvertes dans les hôtes où je suis allée !
Pour les trajets, moi j'ai pas trouvé les étapes trop longues par contre il n'y avait pas de toilettes dans les cars . C'est dans ce sens qu'il faut être prévoyant pour les personnes sensibles du transit !!
Bon rapport qualité / prix !
Que je me souvienne il n'y avait pas de piscines couvertes dans les hôtes où je suis allée !
Pour les trajets, moi j'ai pas trouvé les étapes trop longues par contre il n'y avait pas de toilettes dans les cars . C'est dans ce sens qu'il faut être prévoyant pour les personnes sensibles du transit !!
Bon rapport qualité / prix !
merci beaucoup pour ces précisions, c'est vrai que c'est bon a savoir afin de prendre des precautions.
a bientot
mamounette 39
bonjour
finalement as tu pu savoir ce que coutait un taxi (apres négociations) depuis aeroport agadir au centre ville..ou bien y a t-il un moyen d'y parvenir en bus...meme si ça doit se faire en plusieurs fois????merci d'avance
margaux
finalement as tu pu savoir ce que coutait un taxi (apres négociations) depuis aeroport agadir au centre ville..ou bien y a t-il un moyen d'y parvenir en bus...meme si ça doit se faire en plusieurs fois????merci d'avance
margaux
bonjour,
pas de bus a l'aeroport d'agadir si tu es en individuel
pas de bus a l'aeroport d'agadir si tu es en individuel
bonjour
d'apres toi comment puis je éviter les taxis??? pas de navettes qui aillent a une gare routiere proche???donc les personnes qui voyagent en solo n'ont guère de choix???comment se puisse?????? merci d'avance ...margaux
d'apres toi comment puis je éviter les taxis??? pas de navettes qui aillent a une gare routiere proche???donc les personnes qui voyagent en solo n'ont guère de choix???comment se puisse?????? merci d'avance ...margaux
pas de bus donc taxi pour te rendre en ville a moins que tu connaisses qqun ou demande a ton hotel de venir vous chercher
au maroc, pour se rendre/quitter un aeroport c'est quasiment en taxi
au maroc, pour se rendre/quitter un aeroport c'est quasiment en taxi
* ****au maroc, pour se rendre/quitter un aeroport c'est quasiment en taxi ****
encore une nouveauté !! Marrakech ... un bus, et meme des bus! Fes .... un bus Casa .... le train ouarzazate ... le bus passe au bout de la rue Rabat ... connais pas ! Et à Agadir, je ne jurerais pas si fort qu'il n'y a rien !
encore une nouveauté !! Marrakech ... un bus, et meme des bus! Fes .... un bus Casa .... le train ouarzazate ... le bus passe au bout de la rue Rabat ... connais pas ! Et à Agadir, je ne jurerais pas si fort qu'il n'y a rien !
si tu sais bien lire j'ai ecrit "quasiment"
a rabat non plus y a pas de bus, ni a tanger d'ailleurs, ni nador...
il me semble que les aeroports au maroc ne se reduit pas a marrakech, casa et fes
d'ailleurs a casa y a le train qui ne passe qu'une fois par heure et roule tres lentement!
a rabat non plus y a pas de bus, ni a tanger d'ailleurs, ni nador...
il me semble que les aeroports au maroc ne se reduit pas a marrakech, casa et fes
d'ailleurs a casa y a le train qui ne passe qu'une fois par heure et roule tres lentement!
* **a rabat non plus y a pas de bus, ni a tanger d'ailleurs, ni nador... ***
combien de touristes concernés ????? combien de vols internationaux sur Tanger et Nador ?? Restons dans le contexte de nos amis VFistes, qui à plus de 95 % utiliseront Marrakech, Casa et Agadir, Quelques uns Ouarzazate !!
le train (pas si lent que cela) est une vraie alternative, et a contribué à faire baisser les prétentions des taxis de jour.
combien de touristes concernés ????? combien de vols internationaux sur Tanger et Nador ?? Restons dans le contexte de nos amis VFistes, qui à plus de 95 % utiliseront Marrakech, Casa et Agadir, Quelques uns Ouarzazate !!
le train (pas si lent que cela) est une vraie alternative, et a contribué à faire baisser les prétentions des taxis de jour.
il fallait me dire que tu voulais ponderer l'aeroport par rapport au nombre de passager.
il me semble qu'on parlait des aeroports en general!
Si je me basse sur tes 95% (qui est fausse bien entendu) sur marrakech alors on dira "au maroc il y a quasiment toujours un service de bus de l'aeroport en ville" 😏
Il me semble que reduire le maroc a marrakech cela me semble etre tres reducteur comme vision.
il me semble qu'on parlait des aeroports en general!
Si je me basse sur tes 95% (qui est fausse bien entendu) sur marrakech alors on dira "au maroc il y a quasiment toujours un service de bus de l'aeroport en ville" 😏
Il me semble que reduire le maroc a marrakech cela me semble etre tres reducteur comme vision.
C'est avec ce genre de messages creux, truffées de hors sujet et de contre vérités (relis mon message, ou apprend à lire ! Marrakech, Casa, Agadir = 95 % et non Marrakech seul) qu'on s'achemine tranquillement vers les 10000 messages !!! tu cherches le "guiness" ?
Les aéroports locaux ou il n'y a aucun touriste, meme pour te faire plaisir, je m'en tape.
Les aéroports locaux ou il n'y a aucun touriste, meme pour te faire plaisir, je m'en tape.
juste qques chiffres du nombre de passagers par aeroport:
casa: 5, 86 millions
marrakech: 3, 07 millions
agadir: 1.5 millions
ouarzazate: 0.1 millions
Donc on remarque bien qu'il y a seulement moitié moins a agadir bien loin des 95%
Donc on remarque bien qu'il y a seulement moitié moins a agadir bien loin des 95%
N'ayant aucun talent médico-pédagogique, je te laisse à ton délire.
Je crains un cas d'illétrisme ?
a mon avis, tu as de vrais lacunes en calcul elementaire!
je ne peux que te conseiller de te joindre tes ptits enfants en cours elementaire pour compter et aussi apprendre des mots comme "quasiment" et surtout essaie de rester dans le sujet en evitant tes hors sujet 😏
a mon avis, tu as de vrais lacunes en calcul elementaire!
je ne peux que te conseiller de te joindre tes ptits enfants en cours elementaire pour compter et aussi apprendre des mots comme "quasiment" et surtout essaie de rester dans le sujet en evitant tes hors sujet 😏
bonsoir Margaux,
il y a des bus qui passent sur la route en face de l'aéroport qui vont à Agadir, je l'ai vu pas plus tard que ce matin, le prix je ne sais pas
cordialement Chantal
il y a des bus qui passent sur la route en face de l'aéroport qui vont à Agadir, je l'ai vu pas plus tard que ce matin, le prix je ne sais pas
cordialement Chantal
bonjour chantal
voila qqs infos pechées sur internet a ce sujet aeroport agadir-inezgane bus 22 inezgane -agadir bus 20-24-28 peux tu me dire si c'est tjrs d'actualité??? merci d'avance
margaux
voila qqs infos pechées sur internet a ce sujet aeroport agadir-inezgane bus 22 inezgane -agadir bus 20-24-28 peux tu me dire si c'est tjrs d'actualité??? merci d'avance
margaux
bonjour Margaux,
c'est d'actualité bonne journée
chantal
c'est d'actualité bonne journée
chantal
je viens de te répondre en mp sur ce forum..j('spere que celui la ne s'évaporera pas😎..a+
margaux
margaux
Bonjour!
Je viens de rentrer d uh circuit villes Impériales avec Marmara.
Tout s est super bie, n passé 😎 il faut dire que l organisation du circuit arrivé sur place est très bonne
Nous avons vraiment passé un agréable séjour et de couvert de superbes villes comme Marrakech ou Fès, grace a notre guide Halim qui etait vraiment top .
Les hotels sont corrects et en plus généralement bien situés .
J espere que le beau tps sera au rdv au mois de Décembre ...
N hésite pas si tu veaux a me poser des questions .
A bientot !
bonjour
je suis bien contente de savoir que nous avons de bonnes chances de ne pas étre déçu.
peux tu me dire si le guide propose des excursions facultatives pendant le circuit ? si oui, peux tu me dire ce que tu nous conseilles et les prix pour prevoir le budget. en attendant, merci beaucoup
mamounette39
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2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
Thanks in advance.
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
Thanks in advance.
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Bonjour,
Connaissez vous l'adresse d'une distillerie de fleurs de roses ds la vallée des roses / kelaa M Gouna. Une distillerie traditionnelle, pas uniquement la boutique à touristes.
Merci bp
Nicolas :-)
Connaissez vous l'adresse d'une distillerie de fleurs de roses ds la vallée des roses / kelaa M Gouna. Une distillerie traditionnelle, pas uniquement la boutique à touristes.
Merci bp
Nicolas :-)
Hi there,
Can anyone tell me if it's possible to travel from the Dades Gorges (Msemrir) to the Todra Gorges (Tamtatouche) on a paved road? Thanks in advance for any answers.
Hello,
We’d like to hire a French-speaking guide (agency, professional, or volunteer) to show us around Cairo over three days.
Trip planned for November 22, 23, and 24, 2026—four veteran French travelers.
We’re open to any leads, contact info, or suggestions.
Best regards,
Jacques
Hi there,
I have a layover in Algeria.
I won’t be leaving the airport.
The two tickets aren’t with the same airline.
Do I need a transit visa?
Thanks for any details and your help!
Hi there,
I live in Casablanca and my parents, who are 80, will be joining me in Marrakech at the beginning of May for a few days.
We’ll be renting a car to get around.
Do you have any suggestions for things to see or visit within a 2-3 hour drive max from Marrakech that aren’t too touristy?
My parents can walk a bit, but at 80, no climbing Mount Toubkal!
Thanks so much in advance for your ideas!
Hi everyone, just back from the 8-day Marrakech-Merzouga loop by car, and I’d love to share my feedback in case it helps some of you. Big thanks to all the forum members who kindly answered my questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Hi there,
I’m traveling solo to Egypt. Could you give me a rough idea of the budget for:
meals
hotels
taxis including tips
visits...
Just an estimate, of course.
For 15 days, what would the price range be, considering there’s an overnight train and a Nile cruise?
I’d like to compare with a travel agency. Is it more worthwhile to go through an agency despite the downsides of group travel?
Otherwise, if a travel buddy is interested in this country, why not?
Thanks a lot!
Merci aux membres de voyageforum qui nous ont fait part de leurs expériences! Nous avons passé 3 jours formidables à "La Kasbah la Palmeraie" à Skoura. Arrivant de Marrakech (superbe route en décrochant après le col de Tichka via Telouet, Ait-Benhaddou), le séjour à la Palmeraie n'a été que du bonheur: accueil chaleureux de Mohammed et Ghizlane, délicieux petits déjeuners sur la terrasse dominant la palmeraie, (pain cuit au four en terre, crêpes au miel préparées par Ghizlane), repas du soir non moins délicieux et copieux, en famille, autour d'un bon feu. Nous nous sentions comme "chez soi" et avons beaucoup appris sur le mode de vie de la région. Les balades proposées étaient toujours intéressantes et hors des circuits touristiques de masse. De là, le vallée et les Gorges du Dades , la vallée des Amandiers (superbe!), la palmeraie. Il y a des Kasbahs magnifiques dans la région dont celle de nos hôtes. Une autre façon de "visiter" le Maroc!






