Hello la compagnie,
Voici mon retour d'expérience sur la demande d'un permis thailandais à partir d'un permis international, et sans visa (exemption de visa 30 jours). Si ça peut faire gagner une journée de démarches et une vingtaine d'euros à quelques personnes...
Pour demander le permis thai il faut un certificat de résidence thailandais. Normalement on peut pas le faire en étant en visa touristique, mais à pattaya ils acceptent souvent (plus précisément à jomtien soi 5).
J'ai donc passé une semaine à pattaya, en demandant une facture de la chambre d'hôtel, en expliquant que c'était pour l'immigration.
Ensuite il faut faire quelques photocopies :
- passeport (page avec la photo, page avec le tampon et/ou visa, page avec la feuille d'arrivée, moi j'avais pas cette dernière car exemption de visa).
- Il faut 2 photos d'identité, qu'on peut faire chez n'importe quel photographe, par exemple au centre commercial festival, vers soi 10 de pattaya pas loin du Hilton. Il faut les photos les plus grandes, je crois que c'est 4ou5cm par 6cm. Prévoir minimum 5 photos je crois. J'ai eu 12 photos pour 120 bahts.
- Le justificatif de votre chambre d'hôtel
Ensuite RDV à l'immigration de jomtien soi 5, on peut y aller en bahts bus.
Prévoir un grand sourire, tous les documents, 200 bahts, attendre 20 minutes, et hop vous avez votre certificat de résidence thailandais. Attention ce n'est pas systématique, comme dit plus haut, normalement on peut pas l'avoir en visa touristique. J'en ai profité pour demander la même chose en anglais (300 bahts), car je suis dans un cas un peu spécial au niveau de ma résidence (je voyage toute l'année sans avoir de pays fixe), et ce document pourrait m'être utile.
La fille de l'immigration m'a confirmé que je pouvais ensuite demandé le permis de conduire thai, même en étant en exemption de visa.
Ensuite, on va au centre pour demander le permis thailandais, via le permis international. Le centre est à une quinzaine de km de pattaya. J'ai pris le baht bus pour m'excentrer un peu, je pense que c'était une bonne idée, car je suis pas certain que les motos taxis du centre savent aller au centre du permis de conduire.
J'ai ensuite pris une moto taxi négociée à 200 bahts. Je lui ai montré mon permis de conduire international en lui disant "driving licence", puis une photo avec marqué "EASTERN VERIFICATION CENTER CHON BURI MEASURE CENTER", et enfin une photo avec marqué "REGENTS INTERNATIONAL SCHOOL PATTAYA" (c'est une école à 100m du centre). Avec tout ça il a compris et il savait où c'était.
Voici l'endroit sur google maps
Voici les coordonnées GPS à mettre dans google maps : 12.968559, 100.972184
Sur un forum anglais ils conseillaient d'y venir entre 8h et 9h, ou entre midi et 13h. J'ai mis le réveil et j'y suis donc allé pour midi :p
Voici les documents à avoir :
- peut être photos d'identité mais il parait qu'ils font les photos sur place maintenant
- photocopie du passeport et du permis international
- le certificat de résidence de l'immigration
- un certificat médical. C'est une grande blague ce papier, il faut aller dans une clinic (il y en a partout), et ils vous font le document sans vous examiner. J'ai payé 150 bahts. Il faut une photo d'identité je crois.
Une fois sur place, il y a plusieurs batiments mais des panneaux indiquent lequel s'occupe des permis de conduire. A l'accueil, le bonhomme vous dira qu'il faut prendre le ticket N°1 pour les permis de conduire pour farang. Dès que vous prenez le ticket vous pouvez aller au guichet 11, qui est situé à l'étage, juste à la sortie de l'escalier.
Ensuite la fille du guichet 11 va vérifier tous vos documents. Et c'est là que ça a bloqué pour moi. J'ai appris que le permis international n'est pas valide en thailande, car la thailande a signé la convention de genève 1948, et le permis international utilise la convention du 8 novembre 1968. J'ai beaucoup insisité, j'ai pretexté que des amis français avaient le même permis et avaient pu faire leur permis thai, mais non, impossible. J'ai regardé sur mon smartphone et personne ne parle de ça sur le net (d'où mon message).
J'ai appelé l'ambassade de france pour leur demander, j'ai eu une thai au téléphone qui parle assez bien français, elle m'a dit que si, mon permis était bien valable, et que je pouvais le faire changer en permis thai. Bref je lui passe la fille du guichet 11 au téléphone, et elles se parlent en thai.
Ensuite la fille de l'ambassade m'explique en Français qu'effectivement, le permis international n'a pas la bonne convention, et qu'il ne peut pas être changé en permis thai. Le permis international européen n'est donc pas valable en thailande !!???
Voici la solution qu'elle m'a expliqué :
- Aller avec le permis français (papier rose) dans une alliance française, et faire traduire le permis français en thai
- Aller dans une ambassade de france pour faire certifier la copie
- Retourner voir la fille du guichet 11 avec ces papiers, et normalement ça devrait passer, car le permis français a lui, bien la convention de Genève 1948.
J'ai laissé mon papier rose en France, je testerais peut être ça l'an prochain.
Le permis international européen n'est donc pas valable en thailande !!???
J'ai laissé mon papier rose en France, je testerais peut être ça l'an prochain.
le permis international n est qu une traduction, il n est valable qu accompagné du veritable permis national. on me l a demandé dans de nombreux pays, pas seulement en thailande, si tu t etais fait brancher par la police sur la route, tu aurais pu passer un sale quart d heure
merci pour l info et le point GPS a pataya
la procedure est quasi identique pour passer le permis thai (moto ou auto ou les 2), elle semble varier avec plus ou moins de souplesse suivant les endroits et les annees, je l ai passe 3 fois ces dernieres annees, ils ne font plus de permis valable 5 ans avec un visa touristique (du moins la ou je suis passe) http://voyageforum.com/discussion/passer-permis-auto-moto-en-thailande-permis-valable-ensuite-dans-toute-asean-d6052736/
en 2015, le permis temporaire delivre etait valable 2 ans
un certificat médical. C'est une grande blague ce papier, il faut aller dans une clinic (il y en a partout), et ils vous font le document sans vous examiner. J'ai payé 150 bahts. Il faut une photo d'identité je crois.
depuis 2013, on m a demandé un certificat medical delivre par un hopital public agréé (ceux délivrés par les medecins avant ne sont plus valables la ou je suis passé), ça coute 50 bahts tarif officiel
enfin, apres t avoir fait passer 3 ou 4 «epreuves» theoriques sans pratique ni moto ni auto, ils te prennent en photo, et te refilent la carte pour un peu plus de 100 bahts
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I’m explaining our situation—my daughter and her young family have just moved to Polynesia, specifically to the island of Raiatea. That’s great, of course, and my wife and I are planning to visit them. However, flights that go through the United States are causing us a problem because we’ve been to Cuba. I think we’ll need a visa because of that.
Has anyone else dealt with this situation before? Any advice on flights and visas would be really helpful.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Hi,
I’m planning a trip to Laos from France with a transit through Thailand involving 2 entries. I might spend up to 7 days max in Thailand (round trip).
The flight I’ve spotted: arrival at BKK and return to France 31 days later.
With the new regulations/visa:
"Starting September 15, 2026, French nationals holding an ordinary passport will be able to stay in Thailand visa-free for up to 30 days for tourism purposes only, down from the previous 60 days."
How do you think the counting is done?
- Number of days spent in Thai territory?
- Entry and exit dates: number of days between the two?
I’m leaning toward the first option, but to avoid any administrative hassles with Thailand (fines, etc.) and before booking my ticket, your input would really help.
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Hi there,
we’re planning our trip to the North Cape this summer. We bought a new vehicle for it. Unfortunately, the registration document is still being processed, and the delay seems long—I don’t think I’ll have it in time for our departure...
I have the transfer documents, insurance in my name, and all the supporting paperwork, but not the registration document. So my question is: does the ferry company require the registration document *mandatorily* when boarding in Denmark or not?
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Hi everyone,
I bought a new apartment in Pattaya that will be finished at the end of 2013, and I’d like to buy more later...
I think it’s a good investment idea, but I’d love to hear from those of you with experience—what do you think? I’d also like to know how to handle rentals... Should I go through agencies, or are they usually rented out directly by the building management companies?
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Hi everyone,
I have to leave for Perth, Australia in a week, for 7 days, and I couldn’t get my international driver’s permit due to processing and delivery delays.
The information I’ve found about whether an international permit is required is contradictory. Some sources say you need one, others say you don’t.
Could anyone let me know if an international driver’s permit is necessary to rent a car in Australia (Perth), or if a French license is enough for a 7-day rental?
hi everyone,
I need to apply for a new eTA for Canada.
do I need the number from my old eTA or not?
because I can’t find my old eTA number anymore.
thanks for your replies, have a great weekend
Hi there,
I know there are similar topics here and elsewhere, but they’re a few years old, and I need an up-to-date answer to make sure I don’t throw over 1000 € out the window. Thanks for your patience.
I’m planning a trip from France to Alberta/British Columbia, and I’m unsure about which bank card to use for the security deposit with the rental company (I’m thinking of going with AVIS).
I contacted Avis Canada, and they told me a credit card is absolutely required. I asked my bank for a credit card (a *real* credit card), but they only offered me a deferred debit card.
My question: For a rental with Avis Canada, is a Gold International Mastercard deferred debit card usable for the security deposit needed to finalize the rental? Is the "CREDIT" label enough? (Some cards say "CREDIT" and others say "CARTE DE CREDIT"—seems minor, but it’s actually a big deal in how the card works.)
I’ve seen conflicting info everywhere I look... My bank says it’s *usually* okay (the deferred debit card), while Avis Canada insists it *must* be a credit card, not debit—even when I mention the deferred debit card.
I know the whole credit card concept is already confusing, and on top of that, some sites say a deferred debit card counts as a credit card, while others say it doesn’t.
Thanks to anyone who can share a recent experience!
Have a great day
Hello everyone,
Could a resident of Benin (Cotonou) kindly let me know which is the best mobile phone and internet service provider?
Thank you very much,
Best regards,
Juan
Hi,
I’m bringing Seresta, an anxiolytic (tranquilizer) from the benzodiazepine family,
to help me sleep.
I’ll have the prescription with me.
Will this be a problem at customs, and do I need to declare it?
Same question for antibiotics?
Thanks a bunch!
Hi everyone,
I’ll explain my situation.
Unfortunately, I lost my passport, and I only realized it two weeks before my departure for a humanitarian mission in Libya. I’m a nurse, and this mission really means a lot to me.
First, I applied for an emergency passport, but it was denied by the Val-d'Oise prefecture on the grounds that a planned humanitarian mission wasn’t considered an urgent reason.
So, I submitted a biometric passport application on July 20th. Since then, the tracking has been stuck, and the town hall can’t (or won’t) give me any clear information. Every time I call, I get a different story. The last update I received was that the passport had been produced since July 23rd with a status of "about to be shipped," but nothing since then.
I’ve managed to push my departure back to next Tuesday at the latest, but I’m starting to really panic.
Have any of you submitted an application around July 20th, especially in Val-d'Oise (95)? How long did you wait between the passport being produced and it being available at the town hall? Is it normal for this step to take this long?
This mission means so much to me. I had everything organized, and I’m also supposed to attend a friend’s wedding right after near the border.
Thanks so much to those who take the time to respond or share their experience. 😔
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Hi there,
I’ll be arriving in Seoul on November 18th after spending about a month in India.
Do you know if I’ll need to fill out any additional documents besides the e-arrival card?
Thanks in advance for your tips!
I’m a bit embarrassed because I need to travel to Quebec from February 27th to March 13th. I’m a regular visitor to Canada—this will be my 10th trip since 1997, plus a year as a permanent resident (2000–2001) and a cross-country run from Vancouver to Halifax in 2011. So, I’m definitely not a terrorist!
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In the "message" section of the account, it says "explanation letter (required)" with a deadline of January 25th, but I can’t find any explanation anywhere—despite searching the Canadian government website and Google. No links, nothing!
I’ve emailed them but haven’t heard back yet. I’m thinking of calling the Canadian embassy in Paris tomorrow. Even though I’m not stressing yet, it’d be a bummer if everyone else got to go without me!
If anyone’s had this issue before or knows what this explanation letter is about, I’d love to hear more.
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So, to anyone who’s successfully gotten the authorization, could you tell me which address you used to get that "elusive" approval?...
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I’m heading to Senegal in January for a month and was wondering if I just need my French driver’s license or if I should get an international permit?
Thanks!
JL
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I have a 9-seater passenger vehicle that I use for my business in Paris, transporting people.
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Thanks in advance for your feedback!
Best,
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Hello,
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No issues with that procedure so far.
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For the visa application, does the invitation need to be on an official paper form issued by the Russian ministry? And most importantly, do I need to present the original for the application, or is there an electronic version that can be sent directly to the consulate in France?
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I filled out the B2 form to apply for a visa, created an account on Atvis to pay the visa fees and schedule a meet-up, but every time I try to pay with my Boursobank Visa 1st card, they refuse the payment with a message telling me to check my details (address), even though everything is correct. Does anyone know why this is happening, or maybe they don’t accept Visa cards? Are you aware of this?
Thanks for your feedback!
Elisabeth
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Is this real or just a hoax?
Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received.
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Hi there,
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Hi there,
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I’ve read that China may ask for proof of exit within 30 days (flight ticket or other reservation). Since we’d be leaving by land, I’m wondering how this works in practice.
Has anyone here been in this situation recently?
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