Dépassement d'une journée de mon visa pour la Thaïlande
by Gabydominic
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour
J'ai un visa pour la thailande qui court jusqu'au 11 janvier 2017 , et je pars le 12 janvier 2017 de bangkok pour Paris vers 11h30 du matin , j 'aimerais avoir vos réponses sur la marche à suivre si vraiment sa va être un problème pour moi. Moi dans l'idée je voulais arriver le 11 janvier au soir à l'aéroport de bangkok et faire tamponner mon passeport au service de l'immigration et attendre tranquilement mon avion à l aéroport de bangkok qui est prévu vers 11h30 . Est ce possible ?
Merci de vos réponses
À bientôt
Domi
Bonjour Fex !
J'ai également répondu à Dominique, mais sur son deuxième topic...
Bien à Vous et Joyeuses Fêtes !
J'ai également répondu à Dominique, mais sur son deuxième topic...
Bien à Vous et Joyeuses Fêtes !
" La Liberté, si elle est illimitée, conduit à son contraire, car si elle n'est pas protégée et restreinte par la Loi, la Liberté conduit nécessairement à la tyrannie du plus fort sur le plus faible " Karl Popper
Bonjour Fex !
J'ai également répondu à Dominique, mais sur son deuxième topic...
🤪.. Encore un qui prend les contributeur VF pour des cons... Pas satisfait des réponses dans son premier thread, il en démarre un deuxième... Un classique...
Bien à Vous et Joyeuses Fêtes !
Cordiales salutations et bonnes fêtes aussi à vous!
🤪.. Encore un qui prend les contributeur VF pour des cons... Pas satisfait des réponses dans son premier thread, il en démarre un deuxième... Un classique...
Bien à Vous et Joyeuses Fêtes !
Cordiales salutations et bonnes fêtes aussi à vous!
Hello,
Ca m'est deja arrive de depasser mon visa d'une journee, par accident.
Lorsque tu passes a la douane en sortant de thailande et que tu montres ton passeport, tu as deux options :
- soit tu tombes sur controleur sympa et tu passes, ce n'est qu'une journee donc c'est possible que tu passes. (c'est ce qui m'etait arrive)
- soit tu tombes sur un controleur moins sympa et tu paies une amende.
Voila !
Bonnes vacances,
Elo
www.lectourebangkok.com
Elo / blog de voyage Lectoure-Bangkok
Hello
Merci pour ta réponse, j aurais un peu moins de stress à l aéroport comme sa.
Passe de bonnes vacances et de très bonnes fêtes de fin d'année et merci encore.
Cordialement
Domi
- soit tu tombes sur controleur sympa et tu passes, ce n'est qu'une journee donc c'est possible que tu passes. (c'est ce qui m'etait arrive)
- soit tu tombes sur un controleur moins sympa et tu paies une amende.
Voila !
Et dans la supposition suivant, selon toi, ça se serait passé comment?
T'es "déjà" en overstay depuis 24 heures et tu pars disons demain.... T'es en scooter et tu te fais contrôler à un barrage de flic et une fois n'est pas coutume, on te demande ton passeport...
A ton avis, ça se serait passé comment?
Et dans la supposition suivant, selon toi, ça se serait passé comment?
T'es "déjà" en overstay depuis 24 heures et tu pars disons demain.... T'es en scooter et tu te fais contrôler à un barrage de flic et une fois n'est pas coutume, on te demande ton passeport...
A ton avis, ça se serait passé comment?
... Vu que ça part dans les inépties...
Voilà ce qui faut retenir:
Si vous dépasser la limite de votre séjour (overstay) en Thailande , vous recevrez une amende de 500 baths à compter de 2 jours après l’expiration de votre visa/exemption de visa.
Si la Police vous contrôle (c'est rare), vous pouvez être expulsé du pays, et rentrer dans la liste noire de l'immigration Thailande, mais en règle générale cela est rarement appliqué.
Dans certains cas vous pouvez faire 1 à 2 jours de prison ou de détention, puis être expulsé de la Thailande, et rentrer dans la liste noire.
La prison est la peine la plus lourde, et s'applique en cas de non-paiement de l'amende. Et le nombre de jour de détention peut monter rapidement si vous dépasser largement les 42 jours overstay.
Source: enthailande.org
Voilà ce qui faut retenir:
Si vous dépasser la limite de votre séjour (overstay) en Thailande , vous recevrez une amende de 500 baths à compter de 2 jours après l’expiration de votre visa/exemption de visa.
Si la Police vous contrôle (c'est rare), vous pouvez être expulsé du pays, et rentrer dans la liste noire de l'immigration Thailande, mais en règle générale cela est rarement appliqué.
Dans certains cas vous pouvez faire 1 à 2 jours de prison ou de détention, puis être expulsé de la Thailande, et rentrer dans la liste noire.
La prison est la peine la plus lourde, et s'applique en cas de non-paiement de l'amende. Et le nombre de jour de détention peut monter rapidement si vous dépasser largement les 42 jours overstay.
Source: enthailande.org
Bonjour
J'ai un visa pour la thailande qui court jusqu'au 11 janvier 2017 , et je pars le 12 janvier 2017 de bangkok pour Paris vers 11h30 du matin , j 'aimerais avoir vos réponses sur la marche à suivre si vraiment sa va être un problème pour moi. Moi dans l'idée je voulais arriver le 11 janvier au soir à l'aéroport de bangkok et faire tamponner mon passeport au service de l'immigration et attendre tranquilement mon avion à l aéroport de bangkok qui est prévu vers 11h30 . Est ce possible ?
Merci de vos réponses
À bientôt
Domi
Hello, Non pas possible. Check-in puis immigration. Check-in ouvre 2 3 heures avant le vol. Overstay 1 jour pas de souci a l aeroport. Peut etre payer l amende 500b. peut etre pas. Overstay 1 jour pris hors aeroport si imprevu ( checkpoint police, accident -> police -> couverture assurance etc.) probleme. Extension exemption 1900b. A l office d immigration. Up to u ! c est le jeu ma pauvre lucette ++
Hello, Non pas possible. Check-in puis immigration. Check-in ouvre 2 3 heures avant le vol. Overstay 1 jour pas de souci a l aeroport. Peut etre payer l amende 500b. peut etre pas. Overstay 1 jour pris hors aeroport si imprevu ( checkpoint police, accident -> police -> couverture assurance etc.) probleme. Extension exemption 1900b. A l office d immigration. Up to u ! c est le jeu ma pauvre lucette ++
A la lumière des années passées dépend la vitesse
Overstay 1 jour pas de souci a l aeroport. Peut etre payer l amende 500b. peut etre pas. c est le jeu ma pauvre lucette ++
Tout à fait!
Je cite un témoignage publié sur frangset.fr:
"Il paraîtrait que si l’overstay est d’une durée de moins de 24 heures, aucune amende n’est infligée. Cependant, il m’est arrivé d’être dans ce cas là, et plutôt que d’éviter l’amende, ou même de devoir payer 500 bahts pour un jour de dépassement, j’ai eu une amende de 2000 bahts. Il paraîtrait donc également que ces amendes sont un peu distribuées à la tête du client, ou comme le stipule la loi, au bon vouloir de l’officier de l’immigration."
"En cas de dépassement de la durée de votre visa en Thaïlande, mieux vaut ne pas attendre de vous faire attraper. Dirigez-vous vers l’aéroport le plus proche, payez votre amende au bureau des overstay, et quittez le sol thaïlandais. Dans ce cas là, il y a de fortes chances que le simple fait de payer l’amende suffise à régler le problème de dépassement de la durée du visa, et vous pourrez même revenir en Thaïlande dès le lendemain."
"La raison pour laquelle je vous incite fortement à ne pas dépasser la durée de votre visa en Thaïlande est bien simple : plus les gens abusent, plus les autorités sévissent. Pendant de nombreuses années les services d’immigration thaïlandais ont été plutôt laxistes quand aux problèmes d’overstay, mais dorénavant, c’est l’armée qui prend les choses en main. À l’heure où j’écris ces lignes, le NCPO à déjà mis en place son plan éradication des visa run, et prévoit des s’attaquer aux visas étudiants par la suite."
cordialement
Tout à fait!
Je cite un témoignage publié sur frangset.fr:
"Il paraîtrait que si l’overstay est d’une durée de moins de 24 heures, aucune amende n’est infligée. Cependant, il m’est arrivé d’être dans ce cas là, et plutôt que d’éviter l’amende, ou même de devoir payer 500 bahts pour un jour de dépassement, j’ai eu une amende de 2000 bahts. Il paraîtrait donc également que ces amendes sont un peu distribuées à la tête du client, ou comme le stipule la loi, au bon vouloir de l’officier de l’immigration."
"En cas de dépassement de la durée de votre visa en Thaïlande, mieux vaut ne pas attendre de vous faire attraper. Dirigez-vous vers l’aéroport le plus proche, payez votre amende au bureau des overstay, et quittez le sol thaïlandais. Dans ce cas là, il y a de fortes chances que le simple fait de payer l’amende suffise à régler le problème de dépassement de la durée du visa, et vous pourrez même revenir en Thaïlande dès le lendemain."
"La raison pour laquelle je vous incite fortement à ne pas dépasser la durée de votre visa en Thaïlande est bien simple : plus les gens abusent, plus les autorités sévissent. Pendant de nombreuses années les services d’immigration thaïlandais ont été plutôt laxistes quand aux problèmes d’overstay, mais dorénavant, c’est l’armée qui prend les choses en main. À l’heure où j’écris ces lignes, le NCPO à déjà mis en place son plan éradication des visa run, et prévoit des s’attaquer aux visas étudiants par la suite."
cordialement
Hello,
C'est l'heure/jour de ton départ de la Thailande qui fait foi et non pas l'heure à laquelle tu passes l'immigration!
Expérience faite il y a qques années quand j'étais en overstay et que mon vol retour sur ZRH parait à 00h30 😄😄
Hello, Non. L heure/date est celui de ton passage a l immigration. Pas celle de ton avion qui quitte le territoire 10'000 metres a la verticale de la frontiere birmane ... comme expliqué plus haut, a l aeroport ca ne pose pas trop de probleme d avoir quelques heures en overstay. ++
Hello, Non. L heure/date est celui de ton passage a l immigration. Pas celle de ton avion qui quitte le territoire 10'000 metres a la verticale de la frontiere birmane ... comme expliqué plus haut, a l aeroport ca ne pose pas trop de probleme d avoir quelques heures en overstay. ++
A la lumière des années passées dépend la vitesse
Si tu le dis....
Moi je parle d'une expérience concrète que j'ai vécue en 2005, 2006, je sais plus ou pour 2 jours d'overstay j'ai au final du payer pour 3j de plus sachant que mon avion partait à 00h30.
Ah ok j avais pas compris dans ce sens la. Tu a passé l immigration avant minuit mais l officier a compté un jour de plus car tu décollais a 0:30 ? Juste ? Si c est ca pas reglo de sa part. On peut rien y faire. ++
Ah ok j avais pas compris dans ce sens la. Tu a passé l immigration avant minuit mais l officier a compté un jour de plus car tu décollais a 0:30 ? Juste ? Si c est ca pas reglo de sa part. On peut rien y faire. ++
A la lumière des années passées dépend la vitesse
Hello
Merci pour ta réponse alessia, je suis maintenant rassuré avec toutes les réponses que j ai eu avec la tienne , merci encore et passe de bonnes vacances et bonne fête de fin d'année.
Cordialement
Domi
Tu a passé l immigration avant minuit mais l officier a compté un jour de plus car tu décollais a 0:30 ? Juste ? Si c est ca pas reglo de sa part. On peut rien y faire. ++
Bonjour,
Effectivement, c'est surprenant car l'immigration doit porter la date du jour civil du passage (sortie) devant elle et non celle du vol (" outbound ") ...
Ayant très souvent pris l'usuel TG 930 (THAI AIRWAYS : BKK > CDG) à l'horaire " historique " de 0:05 et donc passé devant l'immigration " la veille " c'est toujours la date de " la veille " qui a été (logiquement et règlementairement) portée.
Une erreur (de l'agent d'immigration) est possible (volontaire ou non) et (aussi parfois) il est omis (par les voyageurs) que le jour d'arrivée est décompté dans le régime des 30 jours du V.E.R (nota : je ne prétends pas que c'est le cas pour ce qu'a évoqué Alessia du décompte de l'immigration 2 = 3).
Je vous souhaite une bonne fin de week-end.
Bonjour,
Effectivement, c'est surprenant car l'immigration doit porter la date du jour civil du passage (sortie) devant elle et non celle du vol (" outbound ") ...
Ayant très souvent pris l'usuel TG 930 (THAI AIRWAYS : BKK > CDG) à l'horaire " historique " de 0:05 et donc passé devant l'immigration " la veille " c'est toujours la date de " la veille " qui a été (logiquement et règlementairement) portée.
Une erreur (de l'agent d'immigration) est possible (volontaire ou non) et (aussi parfois) il est omis (par les voyageurs) que le jour d'arrivée est décompté dans le régime des 30 jours du V.E.R (nota : je ne prétends pas que c'est le cas pour ce qu'a évoqué Alessia du décompte de l'immigration 2 = 3).
Je vous souhaite une bonne fin de week-end.
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My partner, our 8-year-old daughter, and I are going on vacation to Gex.
We’ve decided to spend one day in Switzerland and another in Italy. Will we need ID (national ID card or passport)? Do we also need ID for our daughter?
Thanks so much for your answers! 🙂
Hi everyone,
Some French friends are visiting NYC (4/5 days around mid-May) from Montreal, Canada. They’ve got their eTA and ESTA approved!
Round-trip transport by bus.
Question: Is the I-94 form required, mandatory, and should it be filled out on the bus or in advance???
Thanks for your RECENT experiences!
See you, Jean.
Some French friends are visiting NYC (4/5 days around mid-May) from Montreal, Canada. They’ve got their eTA and ESTA approved!
Round-trip transport by bus.
Question: Is the I-94 form required, mandatory, and should it be filled out on the bus or in advance???
Thanks for your RECENT experiences!
See you, Jean.
Hello,
We’ll soon be moving to Madagascar long-term.
As a French national, I need to obtain a short-stay visa that can be converted to a long-stay one. To do this, I have to send the required documents to the Madagascar embassy in Paris.
No issues with that procedure so far.
If I get this visa, once I arrive in Madagascar, I’ll need to provide the same documents to the Ministry of the Interior in Anosy. I’m trying to find an email address or website for the Ministry to check which documents I need to submit (I think they ask for additional ones).
If you have any info on this, I’d appreciate your replies.
Best regards,
M. Buisson Eric
Hi there,
I’d like to know if anyone has already applied for a private visa to Russia with an invitation from a Russian resident. I traveled earlier this year with an e-visa, but since I want to stay longer, I’ll be visiting my friend who lives in eastern Russia. For the visa application, does the invitation need to be on an official paper form issued by the Russian ministry? And most importantly, do I need to present the original for the application, or is there an electronic version that can be sent directly to the consulate in France? Thanks for any info if you’ve gone through this process before!
Best regards,
Gilles
I’d like to know if anyone has already applied for a private visa to Russia with an invitation from a Russian resident. I traveled earlier this year with an e-visa, but since I want to stay longer, I’ll be visiting my friend who lives in eastern Russia. For the visa application, does the invitation need to be on an official paper form issued by the Russian ministry? And most importantly, do I need to present the original for the application, or is there an electronic version that can be sent directly to the consulate in France? Thanks for any info if you’ve gone through this process before!
Best regards,
Gilles
I filled out the B2 form to apply for a visa, created an account on Atvis to pay the visa fees and schedule a meet-up, but every time I try to pay with my Boursobank Visa 1st card, they refuse the payment with a message telling me to check my details (address), even though everything is correct. Does anyone know why this is happening, or maybe they don’t accept Visa cards? Are you aware of this?
Thanks for your feedback!
Elisabeth
Hi,
There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted. Is this real or just a hoax? Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received. Thanks everyone.
There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted. Is this real or just a hoax? Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received. Thanks everyone.
Hi there,
We need to apply for a B2 visa because we visited Iran in 2018. It currently costs $185, but they’re planning an additional $250 fee per person for the same visa—it’s been approved but not yet implemented. Does anyone know when this fee will take effect?
Thanks in advance!
Elisabeth
Hi there,
In November, we're heading off on a 4-month trip. We'll be landing in China and plan to leave the country via a land border into Vietnam.
I’ve read that China may ask for proof of exit within 30 days (flight ticket or other reservation). Since we’d be leaving by land, I’m wondering how this works in practice.
Has anyone here been in this situation recently?
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding? Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival? Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient? Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Thanks for sharing your experiences! 😊
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding? Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival? Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient? Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Thanks for sharing your experiences! 😊
Hi there,
Just a question that’s probably been asked before (though usually the other way around for my situation :))
My wife and I are heading to the US.
On her ticket, it only has her maiden name (e.g., Martine DUPOND).
On her passport, it’s written as Martine DUPOND épouse AVRY.
No issues for travel, I hope I did the right thing with the ticket?
Then for the ESTA, is just Martine DUPOND enough, or do I need to include the "épouse AVRY" part like on the passport?
Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
I’m spending a few days in San Pedro de Atacama (Chile) and would like to cross the Argentine border to make a loop toward Salta and then return to Chile to drop off the rental car.
I’ve heard that crossing the border can be tricky!
Is it possible with a rental company’s authorization? Which company, and at what cost?
Thanks for sharing your experiences!
Best regards,
Arnale
Hi everyone,
I saw on the French Embassy in Peru’s website and the Peruvian Consulate in Paris’s site that the rule is to have a passport valid for 6 months *after the arrival date* (not the return date).
I arrive in Peru on August 13, 2019 (for about twelve days), and my passport is valid until February 16, 2020.
That’s 6 months and 3 days after my arrival date in Peru. In my opinion, I’m good to go.
But could I still be denied entry if they say I don’t cover the return date or that I’m too close to the 6-month mark?
Thanks for your feedback.
I saw on the French Embassy in Peru’s website and the Peruvian Consulate in Paris’s site that the rule is to have a passport valid for 6 months *after the arrival date* (not the return date).
I arrive in Peru on August 13, 2019 (for about twelve days), and my passport is valid until February 16, 2020.
That’s 6 months and 3 days after my arrival date in Peru. In my opinion, I’m good to go.
But could I still be denied entry if they say I don’t cover the return date or that I’m too close to the 6-month mark?
Thanks for your feedback.