De Durango à Montrose
by Fifi1972
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour à tous
Cet été direction le Nouveau Mexique, Colorado, dakota, Montana etc...
Je suis en train de « bosser » sur le roadtrip et je bloque sur les alentours de durango. J ai donc quelques questions pour les forum’ ers...
Quelqu’un a t il fait le train au départ de durango et votre avis ?
Est ce que faire un détour pour passer par telluride vaut le coup ?
Est ce que Ouray est plus sympa ?
Merci d avance pour vos partages d expériences
Philippe
Bonjour,
Concernant le train de Durango, c'est une expérience! Des amis l'ont fait et nous ont montrés les vidéos. Mais c'est (très) long, surtout si vous faites le choix de faire les 2 sens en train. L'idée peut être de faire l'aller en train et le retour en Bus depuis Silverton. (C'est ce qu'ils avaient fait). Eux avaient regrettés d'avoir perdu la journée avec le train.
Il mérite au moins d'être vue au départ. Après, es ce que vous avez le temps et l'envie de "perdre" une journée dans le train, c'est à vous de voir. Nous avions fait le choix de faire l'impasse.
Toutefois, nous avions fait le départ de celui-ci et avions été ensuite en voiture à Silverton. Puis après quelques temps sur place, nous étions retourné sur Durango pour manger rapidement puis sur Mesa Verde NP en début d'aprem jusqu'à la fin de journée.
Concernant Telluride et Ouray, cela semble très semblable à Silverton. Mais je ne peux vous conseiller, n'ayant pas visiter ces 2 villes.
Concernant le train de Durango, c'est une expérience! Des amis l'ont fait et nous ont montrés les vidéos. Mais c'est (très) long, surtout si vous faites le choix de faire les 2 sens en train. L'idée peut être de faire l'aller en train et le retour en Bus depuis Silverton. (C'est ce qu'ils avaient fait). Eux avaient regrettés d'avoir perdu la journée avec le train.
Il mérite au moins d'être vue au départ. Après, es ce que vous avez le temps et l'envie de "perdre" une journée dans le train, c'est à vous de voir. Nous avions fait le choix de faire l'impasse.
Toutefois, nous avions fait le départ de celui-ci et avions été ensuite en voiture à Silverton. Puis après quelques temps sur place, nous étions retourné sur Durango pour manger rapidement puis sur Mesa Verde NP en début d'aprem jusqu'à la fin de journée.
Concernant Telluride et Ouray, cela semble très semblable à Silverton. Mais je ne peux vous conseiller, n'ayant pas visiter ces 2 villes.
Vu les echos sur le train et le temps que cela prenait nous avions renoncé..quant a Durango..ville touristique un peu bidon a mon gput....
Vu les echos sur le train et le temps que cela prenait nous avions renoncé..quant a Durango..ville touristique un peu bidon a mon gput....
En effet, j'ai trouvé que Durango ne valait le coup que pour son train et ses alentours. Un peu comme Silverton ^^ Cela devient malheureusement la norme avec ces villes ultra touristiques.
En effet, j'ai trouvé que Durango ne valait le coup que pour son train et ses alentours. Un peu comme Silverton ^^ Cela devient malheureusement la norme avec ces villes ultra touristiques.
Quel est ton programme actuel sur cette zone?
En gros, vous venez d'où et vous allez où?
Bonjour Philippe,
En juillet 2017, nous avons été à Ouray, puis Silverton et avons dormi à Durango. J'ai trouvé Ouray très sympa, il faut balader dans la rue principale, je l'ai trouvée moins touristique que Silverton. D'ailleurs, nous avions vu le train arriver à Silverton et quand nous étions à Durango, en allant récupérer notre voiture, le train entrait en gare. La route avec les montagnes rouges est sympa (ancienne mine sur la route, on peut s'y arrêter). Nous n'avons pas été à Telluride car nous sommes partis vers Mesa Verde. Bons préparatifs. Je prépare également pour le NO des USA. C'est toujours un moment agréable 😉
En juillet 2017, nous avons été à Ouray, puis Silverton et avons dormi à Durango. J'ai trouvé Ouray très sympa, il faut balader dans la rue principale, je l'ai trouvée moins touristique que Silverton. D'ailleurs, nous avions vu le train arriver à Silverton et quand nous étions à Durango, en allant récupérer notre voiture, le train entrait en gare. La route avec les montagnes rouges est sympa (ancienne mine sur la route, on peut s'y arrêter). Nous n'avons pas été à Telluride car nous sommes partis vers Mesa Verde. Bons préparatifs. Je prépare également pour le NO des USA. C'est toujours un moment agréable 😉
Sylvie
Bonjour, nous avons été 3 fois à Durango et nous n avons jamais le train , certes les paysages sont beaux mais cela prend une journée . Nous l avons photographié à Durango et Silverton .
Nous avons pris la San Juan Parkway , un circuit Durango, Silverton, Ouray, Telluride, Cortes, Durango . A Ouray il y a Box Canyon à visiter, apres Montrose Le Black Canyon of Gunnison .
Le Colorado est un chouette état .
Entre Taos et Durango, nous avions fait Plaza Blanca (Vraiment très sympa) puis Ghost ranch (On peut s'en passer).
Mesa Verde NP est sympa. Surtout si vous prenez un guided tour avec un Ranger.
Pour plus au nord de Silverton, je passe, nous n'avons pas dépassé cette ville et avons tracé à l'Ouest ensuite vers Moab :)
Mesa Verde NP est sympa. Surtout si vous prenez un guided tour avec un Ranger.
Pour plus au nord de Silverton, je passe, nous n'avons pas dépassé cette ville et avons tracé à l'Ouest ensuite vers Moab :)
Lors de des deux derniers voyages dans l ouest nous avions dormi près de moab à Blanding Habajo guest cabin... exceptionnel ! Cabine en bois avec petit dej apporté dans un panier par le proprio des biches dés colibri et le nécessaire fourni pour faire un deux de camps avec une Voie lactée magnifique car aucune pollution lumineuse. De beaux moments
Merci pour ce tuyau
Du coup j ai trouvé un train à vapeur au départ de georgetown à l est de Denver
C est sur notre route et le trajet ne dure qu une heure et quart du coup 3 fois moins cher aussi avec possibilité de visiter une mine d argent
Attention, la majorite des trains sont simplement des locomotives Diesel. Pour certaines avec de la fausse vapeur. Je ne sais pas si ce n est pas le cas avec celui de Georgetown.
Il y a très peu de vrai train à charbon encore actif dans le monde. Et c est un peu ça l exclusivité à Durango.
Attention, la majorite des trains sont simplement des locomotives Diesel. Pour certaines avec de la fausse vapeur. Je ne sais pas si ce n est pas le cas avec celui de Georgetown.
Il y a très peu de vrai train à charbon encore actif dans le monde. Et c est un peu ça l exclusivité à Durango.
Nous étions dans cette région en septembre dernier. coup de cœur pour Durango, Joli petite ville très jeune. Musique en extérieur, bistrots sympas. Nous n'avons pas fait le voyage en train, mais sommes allés passer une journée à Telluride, en passant par Dolorès. La journée était ensoleillée et la route splendide. Telluride est une jolie station de ski, pour populations aisées, mais la visite vaut le coup.
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Bonjour René , Bonjour à tous
Le dimanche 11 août je pars de Farmington , je visite le matin Aztec ensuite dans les parages j'aimerai visiter si possible avec un détour par la piste "cox canyon" et "arch rock" . ( pour ceux qui connaissent les lieux je suis preneur en info )
Ensuite ma route passe par Durango et je pense arrivée à Silverton en fin d'après midi pour y dormir .
Ma question : a quelle heure le train par de la gare de Durango et a quelle heure arrive t'il à Silverton . Je pense être trop tard dans ces 2 gares pour voir ce fameux train .
Dominique
Bonjour, si mes souvenirs sont bon je crois que le départ de Durango est vers 8 heures et je l ai vu arriver à Silverton vers 12h30 . En septembre 2015 et 2017. Regardes sur leur site pour connaitre les horaires . Effectivement la journée avant Silverton est déja bien remplie . Pour voir le train , si tu as le temps, le mieux est de visiter Silverton le matin et attendre l arrivée à 12h30. Bon voyage .
Nous étions dans cette région en septembre dernier. coup de cœur pour Durango, Joli petite ville très jeune. Musique en extérieur, bistrots sympas. Nous n'avons pas fait le voyage en train, mais sommes allés passer une journée à Telluride, en passant par Dolorès. La journée était ensoleillée et la route splendide. Telluride est une jolie station de ski, pour populations aisées, mais la visite vaut le coup.
Bonjour Antoine, Je m'immisce dans la discussion 🙂 est-ce qu'en septembre la végétation prend déjà bien ses couleurs d'automne dans le coin de Durango ? nous partons en 2020 en septembre et nous devrions y être normalement autour du 20/21 septembre. Je voulais y aller essentiellement pour ce spectacle ainsi que pour le petit côté far west mais s'il semble un peu surfait. En ce qui concerne la végétation de montagne on ne devrait pas être trop dépaysés puisqu'on habite entre le Jura et les Alpes ! Bonne soirée Aline
Bonjour Antoine, Je m'immisce dans la discussion 🙂 est-ce qu'en septembre la végétation prend déjà bien ses couleurs d'automne dans le coin de Durango ? nous partons en 2020 en septembre et nous devrions y être normalement autour du 20/21 septembre. Je voulais y aller essentiellement pour ce spectacle ainsi que pour le petit côté far west mais s'il semble un peu surfait. En ce qui concerne la végétation de montagne on ne devrait pas être trop dépaysés puisqu'on habite entre le Jura et les Alpes ! Bonne soirée Aline
Salut Aline, nous étions à Telluride le 20 septembre. La journée, superbe, avait déjà des couleurs et lumières d'automne. La route, à partir de Mancos, qui passe par Dolorès, où nous avons bu un café, est magnifique. La petite ville de Telluride aussi, à ce moment là de l'année moins touristique que Silverton. Un conseil, si vous visitez Mesa Verde, logez plutôt à Mancos, à l'entrée du parc, plutôt qu'à Cortez. Pourquoi pas au Mesa Verde Motel, où l'accueil est sympathique et chaleureux.La route:






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Telluride est le meilleur plan si votre objectif est de faire le tour des agences immobilières pour acheter une petite maison à 5 millions de dollars. Ouray est effectivement plus sympathique comme ville étape au milieu des montagnes, a fortiori si vous êtes randonneur.
Il y a d'infinies possibilités de randonnées plus ou moins sportives dans le Sud-Ouest du Colorado. Je m'étais aidé du livre "Hiking Trails of Southwestern Colorado" de Paul Pixler et John Peel. Il faut noter que beaucoup de balades nécessitent une route d'approche assez longue sur piste ou route forestière (pas forcément difficile, mais non goudronnée). Il faut savoir à quoi s'attendre. Les plus belles randos du Colorado ne sont pas toutes dans les parcs nationaux, loin de là. Le Colorado des montagnes reste assez sauvage.
Durango est une ville touristique animée et pas désagréable. Cela a du sens d'y faire étape si vous prenez le train (expédition familiale sympathique qui vaut surtout pour les passages les plus étroits dans les gorges) ou si vous enchaînez vers Mesa Verde en descendant des montagnes San Juan (ou inversement).
Un critère secondaire pour les choix d'étapes est l'altitude si vous y êtes sensible (ou si vous vous y retrouvez en début de voyage avant d'être habitué). On peut avoir du mal à dormir à près de 3000m (Silverton est le point le plus haut parmi les villes citées).
Bonsoir Antoine,
Merci pour ta réponse, effectivement c'est très beau 🙂 normalement si on garde cet itinéraire on ne devrait pas passer par Mesa Verde puisqu'on vient de Moab et on file ensuite vers Monument Valley ... on fait juste une incursion dans le Colorado histoire de changer un peu de paysage et d'ambiance !
Bonne soirée
Aline
Du coup j ai trouvé un train à vapeur au départ de georgetown à l est de Denver
C est sur notre route et le trajet ne dure qu une heure et quart du coup 3 fois moins cher aussi avec possibilité de visiter une mine d argent
Hello Philippe,
Lors de notre circuit de l'été 2013, nous avons pris le train qui part de Georgetown.
En 2016, nous avons pris le train qui fait l'aller-retour Durango > Silverton.
Les paysages traversés par le train qui va de Durango à Silverton sont très beaux, regardez là pour avoir une idée : l'aller : voyageforum.com/...st=7638743;a=7638743
Silverton et le retour (en train également) : voyageforum.com/...st=7640630;a=7640630
Les paysages traversés par le train de Georgetown sont beaucoup moins variés et colorés.
Par ailleurs, la visite de la mine d'or de Mollie Kathleen à Cripple Creek nous avait beaucoup intéressés ( www.goldminetours.com/ ).
Cependant, vous n'aurez peut-être pas le temps. Nous avons visité cette mine d'or en partant de Manitou Springs.
Et, pour le train Durango - Silverton en aller-retour, nous avions prévu 2 nuits à Durango.
Nous sommes retournés à Silverton le lendemain par la route : voyageforum.com/...st=7643698;a=7643698
Nous allions à Ouray : voyageforum.com/...st=7652148;a=7652148
Ce que nous avons fait le surlendemain à Ouray : voyageforum.com/...st=7653636;a=7653636
Box Canyon Falls : voyageforum.com/...st=7654826;a=7654826
Est ce que faire un détour pour passer par telluride vaut le coup ?
La route en direction de Telluride : voyageforum.com/...st=7655037;a=7655037
Telluride : voyageforum.com/...st=7655904;a=7655904
Bonne soirée !
Christine
Hello Philippe,
Lors de notre circuit de l'été 2013, nous avons pris le train qui part de Georgetown.
En 2016, nous avons pris le train qui fait l'aller-retour Durango > Silverton.
Les paysages traversés par le train qui va de Durango à Silverton sont très beaux, regardez là pour avoir une idée : l'aller : voyageforum.com/...st=7638743;a=7638743
Silverton et le retour (en train également) : voyageforum.com/...st=7640630;a=7640630
Les paysages traversés par le train de Georgetown sont beaucoup moins variés et colorés.
Par ailleurs, la visite de la mine d'or de Mollie Kathleen à Cripple Creek nous avait beaucoup intéressés ( www.goldminetours.com/ ).
Cependant, vous n'aurez peut-être pas le temps. Nous avons visité cette mine d'or en partant de Manitou Springs.
Et, pour le train Durango - Silverton en aller-retour, nous avions prévu 2 nuits à Durango.
Nous sommes retournés à Silverton le lendemain par la route : voyageforum.com/...st=7643698;a=7643698
Nous allions à Ouray : voyageforum.com/...st=7652148;a=7652148
Ce que nous avons fait le surlendemain à Ouray : voyageforum.com/...st=7653636;a=7653636
Box Canyon Falls : voyageforum.com/...st=7654826;a=7654826
Est ce que faire un détour pour passer par telluride vaut le coup ?
La route en direction de Telluride : voyageforum.com/...st=7655037;a=7655037
Telluride : voyageforum.com/...st=7655904;a=7655904
Bonne soirée !
Christine
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I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
Hello.
I’d like to travel along I-15N from San Diego to Las Vegas with my mom, who’s 67. We’ve explored Northern California and the California Coast over the past two years and now want to continue through the desert.
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
Hi there,
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Hi there,
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
Hi,
My 16-year-old son is flying to Grand Rapids with other kids his age. There’s a layover in Detroit. There’s no unaccompanied minor service available. Is it pretty easy to navigate Detroit Airport to catch the connecting flight to Grand Rapids (domestic flight)? There are several of them who speak English well.
Thanks for your replies,
Good evening, everyone! 🙂
Just a few last questions to wrap up our Lake Tahoe visit plans.
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Hi there. I'm shocked by the price of the Upper Antelope Canyon tour—$175 for less than an hour… You might say, "if you can’t afford it…" But the real question is whether it’s really worth it, because $350 for two makes me feel like I’m getting ripped off. For those who’ve done both Lower and Upper, can you tell me if the price difference is really justified? Thanks
Hi everyone! 🙂
As you can see, we're heading back from September 6th to the 27th.
Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us.
We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here's a tip for future visitors!
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
Hi everyone,
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
Thanks for advising me on the booking—should I reserve a room in the hotel or go for a cabin for the best view?
Should I get breakfast or not?
What do you think of the restaurant?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
Hello,
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse
Hi everyone.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
Hi everyone, I’m traveling to Los Angeles and would like to rent a vehicle at the airport. However, I have a Boursobank Ultim deferred debit card, so I’d love to know if it’s possible for those who’ve experienced this recently. Thanks for the info!
Hi VF community,
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine






