Est-il possible d'avoir un visa touriste pour l'Algérie quand on ne travaille pas
by Corina12
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour je souhaite me rendre en Algérie en janvier 2020. Cependant je ne travaille pas et n’es pas de revenu je vis chez mes parents . Comment puis- je faire pour le justificatif de ressources
Bonjour,
Vous avez déjà posé la question.
Le fait que quand on fait un voyage, on est censé avoir les moyens de le payer.
Ceci dit les Algériens s'en foutent, ils savent que personne ne cherche à venir en fraude pour trouver du boulot, le visa est juste un moyen commode de gagner un peu de fric et d'une prétendue "réciprocité" par rapport aux demandes de visa pour venir en Europe.
Eh bien tu leur demandes, voilà !
Comme dit, ils s'en fichent royalement. Tu pourrais aussi bien fournir de faux bulletins de paye qu'ils ne s'en apercevraient pas.
Bonjour,
Contrairement â ce que dit Anasthasie, il apparait sur le site du consulat de Paris, une demande de justificatif de ressources.
VISA TOURISTIQUE Pièces à fournir:
formulaire de demande de visa dûment rempli, daté et signé (en double exemplaire). Passeport ayant une validité d’au moins 6 mois plus la photocopie de la première page. 02 photographies d’identité récentes. Une attestation d’assurance voyage (rapatriement, hospitalisation et frais médicaux), à demander auprès de votre compagnie d’assurance, de votre agence de voyage ou de votre banque. Cette attestation doit être valable pour toute la durée du séjour. Un certificat d’hébergement de moins de trois (03) mois légalisé par la mairie du lieu de résidence de la personne qui invite en y joignant sa pièce d’identité ou une réservation d’hôtel pour toute la durée du séjour. Pour les enfants mineurs : Présenter un livret de famille ou un acte de naissance de l’enfant. Justificatifs de ressources : Bulletin de salaire, attestation de travail, pôle emploi, attestation de revenu de solidarité active (R.S.A.) Kbis .
Bon voyage
Contrairement â ce que dit Anasthasie, il apparait sur le site du consulat de Paris, une demande de justificatif de ressources.
VISA TOURISTIQUE Pièces à fournir:
formulaire de demande de visa dûment rempli, daté et signé (en double exemplaire). Passeport ayant une validité d’au moins 6 mois plus la photocopie de la première page. 02 photographies d’identité récentes. Une attestation d’assurance voyage (rapatriement, hospitalisation et frais médicaux), à demander auprès de votre compagnie d’assurance, de votre agence de voyage ou de votre banque. Cette attestation doit être valable pour toute la durée du séjour. Un certificat d’hébergement de moins de trois (03) mois légalisé par la mairie du lieu de résidence de la personne qui invite en y joignant sa pièce d’identité ou une réservation d’hôtel pour toute la durée du séjour. Pour les enfants mineurs : Présenter un livret de famille ou un acte de naissance de l’enfant. Justificatifs de ressources : Bulletin de salaire, attestation de travail, pôle emploi, attestation de revenu de solidarité active (R.S.A.) Kbis .
Bon voyage
Bien sûr que c'est écrit, je n'ai jamais dit le contraire !
Mais vous voyez bien qu'ils s'en fichent, puisqu'ils acceptent même un justificatif de RSA, comme si quelqu'un qui a 500 € par mois pour vivre pouvait se payer des vacances à l'étranger !
Et un Kbis, on croit rêver 🤪 Depuis quand un Kbis est un justificatif de ressources ???
Ca prouve bien que le visa exigé par l'Algérie repose sur du vent, comme dans tous les pays africains où il sert juste à rapporter un peu d'argent. Croyez-vous vraiment qu'un agent du consulat va faire la différence entre un vrai et un faux kbis, ou un vrai et un faux bulletin de paye ?
L'Algérie sait bien qu'un Français ne va pas chercher à émigrer clandestinement en Algérie, allons ! Par contre elle ne supporte pas qu'on refuse des visas à ses ressortissants pour venir en Europe, alors elle applique ce principe de "réciprocité". Mais elle ferait bien de faire gaffe, car la France a décidé de durcir ses positions et de faire exécuter les OQTF, et si les pays concernés ne jouent pas le jeu en récupérant leurs clandestins, elle leur coupera le robinet. Et vu les milliards en jeu...
Mais elle ferait bien de faire gaffe, car la France a décidé de durcir ses positions et de faire exécuter les OQTF, et si les pays concernés ne jouent pas le jeu en récupérant leurs clandestins, elle leur coupera le robinet. Et vu les milliards en jeu..
....mdrr tu connais mal l'algerie, ils s'en foutent éperdument 😏
....mdrr tu connais mal l'algerie, ils s'en foutent éperdument 😏
vive les martyrs de 54
Ca m'étonnerait parce que le pognon qu'on leur file pour développer le tourisme, alors qu'ils n'ont aucune intention de développer le tourisme, ils le prennent. Donc on peut supposer que si on arrête de le leur filer ça va bien manquer quelque part.
C'est quel "pognon", il vient d'où, c'est combien ? Et "on", c'est qui ? Il y a une information quelque-part à ce propos ?
bravo......😉
bravo......😉
vive les martyrs de 54
Le pognon vient pour moitié de l'Europe, et pour moitié de l'Etat français. Demande à Atout France, ce sont eux qui organisent ce genre de mission à la con. Ils le font aussi pour Israël, pour la Grèce (c'est vrai qu'on a des choses à apprendre aux Grecs en matière de tourisme 😄 ), et pour la Crimée. Bon, pour la Crimée, ils ont fini par l'annuler, c'était juste avant l'invasion par Poutine. Ma chef qui devait aller leur apprendre comment mieux accueillir les touristes ne savait même pas où se trouvait la Crimée 😕, c'est dire le sérieux de ces missions.
Pour l'Algérie elle y est allée 2 fois, elle est revenue un peu dégoutée car les Algériens participaient aux séminaires visiblement contraints et forcés et n'en avaient rien à foutre.
L'info tu dois la trouver en faisant un petit effort, en faisant une petite recherche de préférence en anglais sur les aides européennes accordées aux pays tiers. Je rappelle que pour qu'il y ait aide de l'Europe, il faut qu'il y ait la contrepartie nationale.
Bonsoir,
J'ai cherché et trouvé l'organisme Atout France, je n'ai pas compris ce que vous avez à reprocher à cet organisme ? Il fait connaitre les possibilités de tourisme en France, pour inciter des étrangers à venir faire du tourisme ici. En quoi est-ce que ça pose un problème ? Bien sûr que pour cela, il faut inviter dans les pays étrangers des professionnels du tourisme, pour leur présenter ce qui nous parait intéressant en France. Bien sûr que ces missions coûtent de l'argent, dépensé dans les pays étrangers d'où nous voulons faire venir des touristes, mais le but est que ces touristes rapportent de l'argent aux professionnels du tourisme en France. C'est une activité commerciale comme une autre, je ne vois pas ce qu'il y a à critiquer ?
J'ai cherché et trouvé l'organisme Atout France, je n'ai pas compris ce que vous avez à reprocher à cet organisme ? Il fait connaitre les possibilités de tourisme en France, pour inciter des étrangers à venir faire du tourisme ici. En quoi est-ce que ça pose un problème ? Bien sûr que pour cela, il faut inviter dans les pays étrangers des professionnels du tourisme, pour leur présenter ce qui nous parait intéressant en France. Bien sûr que ces missions coûtent de l'argent, dépensé dans les pays étrangers d'où nous voulons faire venir des touristes, mais le but est que ces touristes rapportent de l'argent aux professionnels du tourisme en France. C'est une activité commerciale comme une autre, je ne vois pas ce qu'il y a à critiquer ?
Bernard
Tiens, juste un petit exemple (je vous préviens, c'est indigeste à la lecture...).
Ca ne concerne "QUE" 35 millions d'euros. Une paille, quoi ! 🤪
ec.europa.eu/...algerie_aap_2018.pdf
Pis ça aussi : www.afd.fr/...-region-pays/algerie Avec un joli "slogan" :
217 millions d’euros engagés depuis 2000
On est fiers de leur filer tout ce pognon, pas vrai ? Et de payer des impôts pour ça.
Et je vous fais grâce des autres pays africains, Cameroun, Sénégal, Côte d'Ivoire...
Pis ça aussi : www.afd.fr/...-region-pays/algerie Avec un joli "slogan" :
217 millions d’euros engagés depuis 2000
On est fiers de leur filer tout ce pognon, pas vrai ? Et de payer des impôts pour ça.
Et je vous fais grâce des autres pays africains, Cameroun, Sénégal, Côte d'Ivoire...
Vous êtes idiot ou quoi ? Les missions dont je parle n'ont pas pour but de faire venir de riches Algériens en vacances en France, il s'agit de missions pour apprendre aux Algériens comment faire venir des touristes CHEZ EUX. Comment développer leurs infrastructures, comment améliorer la qualité, comment monter des produits touristiques.
Toutes les activités d'Atout France ne sont pas sur leur site. Vous n'y connaissez rien dans l'organisation des institutions en France et dans l'octroi des aides publiques, alors taisez-vous.
Bonjour,
Je reprends votre citation : "Ca ne concerne "QUE" 35 millions d'euros. Une paille, quoi ! 🤪" 35 millions, ça fait donc à peu près 0,5 € par français et par an ? Ah, non, c'est vrai, il y en a une grande partie qui vient d'autres pays d'Europe, donc c'est encore bien moins que ça comme charge pour chaque français.
J'approfondis le peu que je connais du sujet en lisant le lien que vous proposez : "ec.europa.eu/...algerie_aap_2018.pdf" J'y trouve : "contribuer à l'émergence d'une économie plus verte, plus diversifiée et inclusive en Algérie. " et : " 1) dialogue politique, gouvernance, Etat de droit et promotion des droits fondamentaux; 2) coopération, développement socio-économique inclusif, échanges commerciaux et accès au marché unique européen; 3) partenariat énergétique, environnement et développement durable; 4) dialogue stratégique et sécuritaire; 5) dimension humaine, migration et mobilité. "
Je trouve tous ces thèmes importants, le financement de ces activités me semble donc loin d'être démesuré. Et en plus, je trouve assez peu de rapports avec le tourisme des français en Algérie.
De plus, il est fait mention dans ce document d'une participation française à la mise en application par l'Agence Française de Développement, et Atout France n'est pas cité. Quel est le lien de Atout France avec L'Agence Française de Développement ?
Vous remarquerez que je ne vous traite pas d'idiote et que je ne vous considère pas comme bête. J'essaie juste de comprendre ce que vous affirmez, en suivant les indications que vous donnez et en lisant les documents que vous présentez.
Je reprends votre citation : "Ca ne concerne "QUE" 35 millions d'euros. Une paille, quoi ! 🤪" 35 millions, ça fait donc à peu près 0,5 € par français et par an ? Ah, non, c'est vrai, il y en a une grande partie qui vient d'autres pays d'Europe, donc c'est encore bien moins que ça comme charge pour chaque français.
J'approfondis le peu que je connais du sujet en lisant le lien que vous proposez : "ec.europa.eu/...algerie_aap_2018.pdf" J'y trouve : "contribuer à l'émergence d'une économie plus verte, plus diversifiée et inclusive en Algérie. " et : " 1) dialogue politique, gouvernance, Etat de droit et promotion des droits fondamentaux; 2) coopération, développement socio-économique inclusif, échanges commerciaux et accès au marché unique européen; 3) partenariat énergétique, environnement et développement durable; 4) dialogue stratégique et sécuritaire; 5) dimension humaine, migration et mobilité. "
Je trouve tous ces thèmes importants, le financement de ces activités me semble donc loin d'être démesuré. Et en plus, je trouve assez peu de rapports avec le tourisme des français en Algérie.
De plus, il est fait mention dans ce document d'une participation française à la mise en application par l'Agence Française de Développement, et Atout France n'est pas cité. Quel est le lien de Atout France avec L'Agence Française de Développement ?
Vous remarquerez que je ne vous traite pas d'idiote et que je ne vous considère pas comme bête. J'essaie juste de comprendre ce que vous affirmez, en suivant les indications que vous donnez et en lisant les documents que vous présentez.
Bernard
On va arrêter là, votre mauvaise foi est abyssale.
Les liens que je donne sont des exemples et vous le savez très bien. Tout (et notamment les subventions données à Atout France pour ces missions) n'est pas disponible sur internet.
Si vous trouvez normal que la France et l'Europe financent des actions qui ne regardent que ces pays tiers, grand bien vous fasse. Mais eux ne financent pas nos actions pour une économie plus verte... Leurs ambassades ne sont même pas capable de récupérer leurs ressortissants mineurs quand ils n'ont pas de papiers et sont dans la merde. C'est nous qui plaçons les mineurs sans papiers à l'ASE et les prenons en charge jusqu'à leur majorité. Encore une fois si vous trouvez tout ça normal, tout est pour le mieux dans le meilleur des mondes.
Bonsoir,
Non, je ne sais pas "très bien", je me renseigne. Vous indiquez que les algériens ne financent rien en France alors que la France (et l'Europe) financent des interventions en Algérie. Alors je me renseigne aussi, et je trouve : Investissements algériens en France Plus de 750 millions d'euros par an.
Non, je ne sais pas "très bien", je me renseigne. Vous indiquez que les algériens ne financent rien en France alors que la France (et l'Europe) financent des interventions en Algérie. Alors je me renseigne aussi, et je trouve : Investissements algériens en France Plus de 750 millions d'euros par an.
Bernard
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I bought a one-way flight (Ryanair) and a return flight (EasyJet) to spend a week in Morocco in April. My passport expires 3 weeks after the return date. Some websites say the passport must be valid for 3 months at the time of entry. However, it will still be valid both on entry and return, but its validity will only be 1 month at the time of entry (and 3 weeks on the return date, everything prepaid).
It's an individual family trip.
The consulate can't give me an answer—they're still looking into it (really!)
Will Ryanair let me board in Beauvais in 3 weeks?
Thanks for your advice—this is a bit urgent 😕😕😕😕
Hello,
Last year, we stayed for 3 months in Thailand, north of Khao Lak, and were able to benefit from the 2-month visa exemption, renewable for one month by going to Takua Pa to validate a 1-month extension (1,900 baht). This year, it’s a disaster for us—not only were we planning a 4-month stay, adding a visa run in between (which some say is quite risky), but the law is apparently changing in the coming months with the return of the 1-month exemption (plus the usual 1-month option). So, we looked into applying for a 6-month multiple-entry visa, allowing a maximum of 60 consecutive days in Thailand. However, I can’t find anywhere the minimum time required outside Thailand between two stays—do any of you have an idea? Thanks for the info! If you’d like tips on Khao Lak and the surrounding areas, we’ve got some experience, though things change fast! Cheers, Bruno.
Last year, we stayed for 3 months in Thailand, north of Khao Lak, and were able to benefit from the 2-month visa exemption, renewable for one month by going to Takua Pa to validate a 1-month extension (1,900 baht). This year, it’s a disaster for us—not only were we planning a 4-month stay, adding a visa run in between (which some say is quite risky), but the law is apparently changing in the coming months with the return of the 1-month exemption (plus the usual 1-month option). So, we looked into applying for a 6-month multiple-entry visa, allowing a maximum of 60 consecutive days in Thailand. However, I can’t find anywhere the minimum time required outside Thailand between two stays—do any of you have an idea? Thanks for the info! If you’d like tips on Khao Lak and the surrounding areas, we’ve got some experience, though things change fast! Cheers, Bruno.
Hi there,
My partner, our 8-year-old daughter, and I are going on vacation to Gex.
We’ve decided to spend one day in Switzerland and another in Italy. Will we need ID (national ID card or passport)? Do we also need ID for our daughter?
Thanks so much for your answers! 🙂
My partner, our 8-year-old daughter, and I are going on vacation to Gex.
We’ve decided to spend one day in Switzerland and another in Italy. Will we need ID (national ID card or passport)? Do we also need ID for our daughter?
Thanks so much for your answers! 🙂
Hi everyone,
Some French friends are visiting NYC (4/5 days around mid-May) from Montreal, Canada. They’ve got their eTA and ESTA approved!
Round-trip transport by bus.
Question: Is the I-94 form required, mandatory, and should it be filled out on the bus or in advance???
Thanks for your RECENT experiences!
See you, Jean.
Some French friends are visiting NYC (4/5 days around mid-May) from Montreal, Canada. They’ve got their eTA and ESTA approved!
Round-trip transport by bus.
Question: Is the I-94 form required, mandatory, and should it be filled out on the bus or in advance???
Thanks for your RECENT experiences!
See you, Jean.
Hello,
We’ll soon be moving to Madagascar long-term.
As a French national, I need to obtain a short-stay visa that can be converted to a long-stay one. To do this, I have to send the required documents to the Madagascar embassy in Paris.
No issues with that procedure so far.
If I get this visa, once I arrive in Madagascar, I’ll need to provide the same documents to the Ministry of the Interior in Anosy. I’m trying to find an email address or website for the Ministry to check which documents I need to submit (I think they ask for additional ones).
If you have any info on this, I’d appreciate your replies.
Best regards,
M. Buisson Eric
Hi there,
I’d like to know if anyone has already applied for a private visa to Russia with an invitation from a Russian resident. I traveled earlier this year with an e-visa, but since I want to stay longer, I’ll be visiting my friend who lives in eastern Russia. For the visa application, does the invitation need to be on an official paper form issued by the Russian ministry? And most importantly, do I need to present the original for the application, or is there an electronic version that can be sent directly to the consulate in France? Thanks for any info if you’ve gone through this process before!
Best regards,
Gilles
I’d like to know if anyone has already applied for a private visa to Russia with an invitation from a Russian resident. I traveled earlier this year with an e-visa, but since I want to stay longer, I’ll be visiting my friend who lives in eastern Russia. For the visa application, does the invitation need to be on an official paper form issued by the Russian ministry? And most importantly, do I need to present the original for the application, or is there an electronic version that can be sent directly to the consulate in France? Thanks for any info if you’ve gone through this process before!
Best regards,
Gilles
I filled out the B2 form to apply for a visa, created an account on Atvis to pay the visa fees and schedule a meet-up, but every time I try to pay with my Boursobank Visa 1st card, they refuse the payment with a message telling me to check my details (address), even though everything is correct. Does anyone know why this is happening, or maybe they don’t accept Visa cards? Are you aware of this?
Thanks for your feedback!
Elisabeth
Hi,
There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted. Is this real or just a hoax? Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received. Thanks everyone.
There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted. Is this real or just a hoax? Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received. Thanks everyone.
Hi there,
We need to apply for a B2 visa because we visited Iran in 2018. It currently costs $185, but they’re planning an additional $250 fee per person for the same visa—it’s been approved but not yet implemented. Does anyone know when this fee will take effect?
Thanks in advance!
Elisabeth
Hi there,
In November, we're heading off on a 4-month trip. We'll be landing in China and plan to leave the country via a land border into Vietnam.
I’ve read that China may ask for proof of exit within 30 days (flight ticket or other reservation). Since we’d be leaving by land, I’m wondering how this works in practice.
Has anyone here been in this situation recently?
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding? Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival? Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient? Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Thanks for sharing your experiences! 😊
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding? Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival? Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient? Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Thanks for sharing your experiences! 😊




