Est-il possible d'avoir un visa touriste pour l'Algérie quand on ne travaille pas
by Corina12
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour je souhaite me rendre en Algérie en janvier 2020. Cependant je ne travaille pas et n’es pas de revenu je vis chez mes parents . Comment puis- je faire pour le justificatif de ressources
Bonjour,
Vous avez déjà posé la question.
Le fait que quand on fait un voyage, on est censé avoir les moyens de le payer.
Ceci dit les Algériens s'en foutent, ils savent que personne ne cherche à venir en fraude pour trouver du boulot, le visa est juste un moyen commode de gagner un peu de fric et d'une prétendue "réciprocité" par rapport aux demandes de visa pour venir en Europe.
Eh bien tu leur demandes, voilà !
Comme dit, ils s'en fichent royalement. Tu pourrais aussi bien fournir de faux bulletins de paye qu'ils ne s'en apercevraient pas.
Bonjour,
Contrairement â ce que dit Anasthasie, il apparait sur le site du consulat de Paris, une demande de justificatif de ressources.
VISA TOURISTIQUE Pièces à fournir:
formulaire de demande de visa dûment rempli, daté et signé (en double exemplaire). Passeport ayant une validité d’au moins 6 mois plus la photocopie de la première page. 02 photographies d’identité récentes. Une attestation d’assurance voyage (rapatriement, hospitalisation et frais médicaux), à demander auprès de votre compagnie d’assurance, de votre agence de voyage ou de votre banque. Cette attestation doit être valable pour toute la durée du séjour. Un certificat d’hébergement de moins de trois (03) mois légalisé par la mairie du lieu de résidence de la personne qui invite en y joignant sa pièce d’identité ou une réservation d’hôtel pour toute la durée du séjour. Pour les enfants mineurs : Présenter un livret de famille ou un acte de naissance de l’enfant. Justificatifs de ressources : Bulletin de salaire, attestation de travail, pôle emploi, attestation de revenu de solidarité active (R.S.A.) Kbis .
Bon voyage
Contrairement â ce que dit Anasthasie, il apparait sur le site du consulat de Paris, une demande de justificatif de ressources.
VISA TOURISTIQUE Pièces à fournir:
formulaire de demande de visa dûment rempli, daté et signé (en double exemplaire). Passeport ayant une validité d’au moins 6 mois plus la photocopie de la première page. 02 photographies d’identité récentes. Une attestation d’assurance voyage (rapatriement, hospitalisation et frais médicaux), à demander auprès de votre compagnie d’assurance, de votre agence de voyage ou de votre banque. Cette attestation doit être valable pour toute la durée du séjour. Un certificat d’hébergement de moins de trois (03) mois légalisé par la mairie du lieu de résidence de la personne qui invite en y joignant sa pièce d’identité ou une réservation d’hôtel pour toute la durée du séjour. Pour les enfants mineurs : Présenter un livret de famille ou un acte de naissance de l’enfant. Justificatifs de ressources : Bulletin de salaire, attestation de travail, pôle emploi, attestation de revenu de solidarité active (R.S.A.) Kbis .
Bon voyage
Bien sûr que c'est écrit, je n'ai jamais dit le contraire !
Mais vous voyez bien qu'ils s'en fichent, puisqu'ils acceptent même un justificatif de RSA, comme si quelqu'un qui a 500 € par mois pour vivre pouvait se payer des vacances à l'étranger !
Et un Kbis, on croit rêver 🤪 Depuis quand un Kbis est un justificatif de ressources ???
Ca prouve bien que le visa exigé par l'Algérie repose sur du vent, comme dans tous les pays africains où il sert juste à rapporter un peu d'argent. Croyez-vous vraiment qu'un agent du consulat va faire la différence entre un vrai et un faux kbis, ou un vrai et un faux bulletin de paye ?
L'Algérie sait bien qu'un Français ne va pas chercher à émigrer clandestinement en Algérie, allons ! Par contre elle ne supporte pas qu'on refuse des visas à ses ressortissants pour venir en Europe, alors elle applique ce principe de "réciprocité". Mais elle ferait bien de faire gaffe, car la France a décidé de durcir ses positions et de faire exécuter les OQTF, et si les pays concernés ne jouent pas le jeu en récupérant leurs clandestins, elle leur coupera le robinet. Et vu les milliards en jeu...
Mais elle ferait bien de faire gaffe, car la France a décidé de durcir ses positions et de faire exécuter les OQTF, et si les pays concernés ne jouent pas le jeu en récupérant leurs clandestins, elle leur coupera le robinet. Et vu les milliards en jeu..
....mdrr tu connais mal l'algerie, ils s'en foutent éperdument 😏
....mdrr tu connais mal l'algerie, ils s'en foutent éperdument 😏
vive les martyrs de 54
Ca m'étonnerait parce que le pognon qu'on leur file pour développer le tourisme, alors qu'ils n'ont aucune intention de développer le tourisme, ils le prennent. Donc on peut supposer que si on arrête de le leur filer ça va bien manquer quelque part.
C'est quel "pognon", il vient d'où, c'est combien ? Et "on", c'est qui ? Il y a une information quelque-part à ce propos ?
bravo......😉
bravo......😉
vive les martyrs de 54
Le pognon vient pour moitié de l'Europe, et pour moitié de l'Etat français. Demande à Atout France, ce sont eux qui organisent ce genre de mission à la con. Ils le font aussi pour Israël, pour la Grèce (c'est vrai qu'on a des choses à apprendre aux Grecs en matière de tourisme 😄 ), et pour la Crimée. Bon, pour la Crimée, ils ont fini par l'annuler, c'était juste avant l'invasion par Poutine. Ma chef qui devait aller leur apprendre comment mieux accueillir les touristes ne savait même pas où se trouvait la Crimée 😕, c'est dire le sérieux de ces missions.
Pour l'Algérie elle y est allée 2 fois, elle est revenue un peu dégoutée car les Algériens participaient aux séminaires visiblement contraints et forcés et n'en avaient rien à foutre.
L'info tu dois la trouver en faisant un petit effort, en faisant une petite recherche de préférence en anglais sur les aides européennes accordées aux pays tiers. Je rappelle que pour qu'il y ait aide de l'Europe, il faut qu'il y ait la contrepartie nationale.
Bonsoir,
J'ai cherché et trouvé l'organisme Atout France, je n'ai pas compris ce que vous avez à reprocher à cet organisme ? Il fait connaitre les possibilités de tourisme en France, pour inciter des étrangers à venir faire du tourisme ici. En quoi est-ce que ça pose un problème ? Bien sûr que pour cela, il faut inviter dans les pays étrangers des professionnels du tourisme, pour leur présenter ce qui nous parait intéressant en France. Bien sûr que ces missions coûtent de l'argent, dépensé dans les pays étrangers d'où nous voulons faire venir des touristes, mais le but est que ces touristes rapportent de l'argent aux professionnels du tourisme en France. C'est une activité commerciale comme une autre, je ne vois pas ce qu'il y a à critiquer ?
J'ai cherché et trouvé l'organisme Atout France, je n'ai pas compris ce que vous avez à reprocher à cet organisme ? Il fait connaitre les possibilités de tourisme en France, pour inciter des étrangers à venir faire du tourisme ici. En quoi est-ce que ça pose un problème ? Bien sûr que pour cela, il faut inviter dans les pays étrangers des professionnels du tourisme, pour leur présenter ce qui nous parait intéressant en France. Bien sûr que ces missions coûtent de l'argent, dépensé dans les pays étrangers d'où nous voulons faire venir des touristes, mais le but est que ces touristes rapportent de l'argent aux professionnels du tourisme en France. C'est une activité commerciale comme une autre, je ne vois pas ce qu'il y a à critiquer ?
Bernard
Tiens, juste un petit exemple (je vous préviens, c'est indigeste à la lecture...).
Ca ne concerne "QUE" 35 millions d'euros. Une paille, quoi ! 🤪
ec.europa.eu/...algerie_aap_2018.pdf
Pis ça aussi : www.afd.fr/...-region-pays/algerie Avec un joli "slogan" :
217 millions d’euros engagés depuis 2000
On est fiers de leur filer tout ce pognon, pas vrai ? Et de payer des impôts pour ça.
Et je vous fais grâce des autres pays africains, Cameroun, Sénégal, Côte d'Ivoire...
Pis ça aussi : www.afd.fr/...-region-pays/algerie Avec un joli "slogan" :
217 millions d’euros engagés depuis 2000
On est fiers de leur filer tout ce pognon, pas vrai ? Et de payer des impôts pour ça.
Et je vous fais grâce des autres pays africains, Cameroun, Sénégal, Côte d'Ivoire...
Vous êtes idiot ou quoi ? Les missions dont je parle n'ont pas pour but de faire venir de riches Algériens en vacances en France, il s'agit de missions pour apprendre aux Algériens comment faire venir des touristes CHEZ EUX. Comment développer leurs infrastructures, comment améliorer la qualité, comment monter des produits touristiques.
Toutes les activités d'Atout France ne sont pas sur leur site. Vous n'y connaissez rien dans l'organisation des institutions en France et dans l'octroi des aides publiques, alors taisez-vous.
Bonjour,
Je reprends votre citation : "Ca ne concerne "QUE" 35 millions d'euros. Une paille, quoi ! 🤪" 35 millions, ça fait donc à peu près 0,5 € par français et par an ? Ah, non, c'est vrai, il y en a une grande partie qui vient d'autres pays d'Europe, donc c'est encore bien moins que ça comme charge pour chaque français.
J'approfondis le peu que je connais du sujet en lisant le lien que vous proposez : "ec.europa.eu/...algerie_aap_2018.pdf" J'y trouve : "contribuer à l'émergence d'une économie plus verte, plus diversifiée et inclusive en Algérie. " et : " 1) dialogue politique, gouvernance, Etat de droit et promotion des droits fondamentaux; 2) coopération, développement socio-économique inclusif, échanges commerciaux et accès au marché unique européen; 3) partenariat énergétique, environnement et développement durable; 4) dialogue stratégique et sécuritaire; 5) dimension humaine, migration et mobilité. "
Je trouve tous ces thèmes importants, le financement de ces activités me semble donc loin d'être démesuré. Et en plus, je trouve assez peu de rapports avec le tourisme des français en Algérie.
De plus, il est fait mention dans ce document d'une participation française à la mise en application par l'Agence Française de Développement, et Atout France n'est pas cité. Quel est le lien de Atout France avec L'Agence Française de Développement ?
Vous remarquerez que je ne vous traite pas d'idiote et que je ne vous considère pas comme bête. J'essaie juste de comprendre ce que vous affirmez, en suivant les indications que vous donnez et en lisant les documents que vous présentez.
Je reprends votre citation : "Ca ne concerne "QUE" 35 millions d'euros. Une paille, quoi ! 🤪" 35 millions, ça fait donc à peu près 0,5 € par français et par an ? Ah, non, c'est vrai, il y en a une grande partie qui vient d'autres pays d'Europe, donc c'est encore bien moins que ça comme charge pour chaque français.
J'approfondis le peu que je connais du sujet en lisant le lien que vous proposez : "ec.europa.eu/...algerie_aap_2018.pdf" J'y trouve : "contribuer à l'émergence d'une économie plus verte, plus diversifiée et inclusive en Algérie. " et : " 1) dialogue politique, gouvernance, Etat de droit et promotion des droits fondamentaux; 2) coopération, développement socio-économique inclusif, échanges commerciaux et accès au marché unique européen; 3) partenariat énergétique, environnement et développement durable; 4) dialogue stratégique et sécuritaire; 5) dimension humaine, migration et mobilité. "
Je trouve tous ces thèmes importants, le financement de ces activités me semble donc loin d'être démesuré. Et en plus, je trouve assez peu de rapports avec le tourisme des français en Algérie.
De plus, il est fait mention dans ce document d'une participation française à la mise en application par l'Agence Française de Développement, et Atout France n'est pas cité. Quel est le lien de Atout France avec L'Agence Française de Développement ?
Vous remarquerez que je ne vous traite pas d'idiote et que je ne vous considère pas comme bête. J'essaie juste de comprendre ce que vous affirmez, en suivant les indications que vous donnez et en lisant les documents que vous présentez.
Bernard
On va arrêter là, votre mauvaise foi est abyssale.
Les liens que je donne sont des exemples et vous le savez très bien. Tout (et notamment les subventions données à Atout France pour ces missions) n'est pas disponible sur internet.
Si vous trouvez normal que la France et l'Europe financent des actions qui ne regardent que ces pays tiers, grand bien vous fasse. Mais eux ne financent pas nos actions pour une économie plus verte... Leurs ambassades ne sont même pas capable de récupérer leurs ressortissants mineurs quand ils n'ont pas de papiers et sont dans la merde. C'est nous qui plaçons les mineurs sans papiers à l'ASE et les prenons en charge jusqu'à leur majorité. Encore une fois si vous trouvez tout ça normal, tout est pour le mieux dans le meilleur des mondes.
Bonsoir,
Non, je ne sais pas "très bien", je me renseigne. Vous indiquez que les algériens ne financent rien en France alors que la France (et l'Europe) financent des interventions en Algérie. Alors je me renseigne aussi, et je trouve : Investissements algériens en France Plus de 750 millions d'euros par an.
Non, je ne sais pas "très bien", je me renseigne. Vous indiquez que les algériens ne financent rien en France alors que la France (et l'Europe) financent des interventions en Algérie. Alors je me renseigne aussi, et je trouve : Investissements algériens en France Plus de 750 millions d'euros par an.
Bernard
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Elisabeth
Hi,
There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted. Is this real or just a hoax? Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received. Thanks everyone.
There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted. Is this real or just a hoax? Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received. Thanks everyone.
Hi there,
We need to apply for a B2 visa because we visited Iran in 2018. It currently costs $185, but they’re planning an additional $250 fee per person for the same visa—it’s been approved but not yet implemented. Does anyone know when this fee will take effect?
Thanks in advance!
Elisabeth
Hi there,
In November, we're heading off on a 4-month trip. We'll be landing in China and plan to leave the country via a land border into Vietnam.
I’ve read that China may ask for proof of exit within 30 days (flight ticket or other reservation). Since we’d be leaving by land, I’m wondering how this works in practice.
Has anyone here been in this situation recently?
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding? Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival? Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient? Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Thanks for sharing your experiences! 😊
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding? Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival? Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient? Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Thanks for sharing your experiences! 😊
Hi there,
Just a question that’s probably been asked before (though usually the other way around for my situation :))
My wife and I are heading to the US.
On her ticket, it only has her maiden name (e.g., Martine DUPOND).
On her passport, it’s written as Martine DUPOND épouse AVRY.
No issues for travel, I hope I did the right thing with the ticket?
Then for the ESTA, is just Martine DUPOND enough, or do I need to include the "épouse AVRY" part like on the passport?
Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
I’m spending a few days in San Pedro de Atacama (Chile) and would like to cross the Argentine border to make a loop toward Salta and then return to Chile to drop off the rental car.
I’ve heard that crossing the border can be tricky!
Is it possible with a rental company’s authorization? Which company, and at what cost?
Thanks for sharing your experiences!
Best regards,
Arnale
Hi everyone,
I saw on the French Embassy in Peru’s website and the Peruvian Consulate in Paris’s site that the rule is to have a passport valid for 6 months *after the arrival date* (not the return date).
I arrive in Peru on August 13, 2019 (for about twelve days), and my passport is valid until February 16, 2020.
That’s 6 months and 3 days after my arrival date in Peru. In my opinion, I’m good to go.
But could I still be denied entry if they say I don’t cover the return date or that I’m too close to the 6-month mark?
Thanks for your feedback.
I saw on the French Embassy in Peru’s website and the Peruvian Consulate in Paris’s site that the rule is to have a passport valid for 6 months *after the arrival date* (not the return date).
I arrive in Peru on August 13, 2019 (for about twelve days), and my passport is valid until February 16, 2020.
That’s 6 months and 3 days after my arrival date in Peru. In my opinion, I’m good to go.
But could I still be denied entry if they say I don’t cover the return date or that I’m too close to the 6-month mark?
Thanks for your feedback.
Hi there,
I read on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that it’s possible to apply for a temporary driving permit in China, valid for 1 month. I’m planning to rent a car (without a driver) to explore part of the country next August, so I was wondering:
Has anyone here already gone through this process upon arrival? How long do the formalities take on the spot? Is it possible to handle these steps in advance, before arriving in China?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
I read on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that it’s possible to apply for a temporary driving permit in China, valid for 1 month. I’m planning to rent a car (without a driver) to explore part of the country next August, so I was wondering:
Has anyone here already gone through this process upon arrival? How long do the formalities take on the spot? Is it possible to handle these steps in advance, before arriving in China?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
Hi
Has anyone been to Rwanda recently and gotten a 3-month visa on arrival easily?
Thanks
Hi there,
My departure is slowly approaching, and now that I’ve got my Russian visa sorted, I’m fine-tuning the rest of my trip to Tajikistan. Since the Tajik visa is no longer required for stays under 30 days (for French nationals), I’ll need to visit the Ministry of Interior (OVIR) to register within 10 days of entering the country. No big deal, though, since I had to go there anyway to apply for my GBAO permit. 😉 However, I’ve *seen* several reports from travelers (mostly motorized) mentioning that you need an entry permit for Kyrgyzstan, which has to be arranged in advance at the Kyrgyz Ministry (consulate?) in Dushanbe. Otherwise, you’re *stuck* at the Kyzyl-Art border (with no Wi-Fi, of course, to try and sort it out). The most recent report was from a year ago, so I’d love to know if this is still the case and if it’s indeed at the Kyrgyz Ministry (consulate?) where you need to go for this pre-authorization.
Does anyone have any recent info on this?
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone.
I’m leaving for almost 3 months in the Philippines (11 weeks total) starting in early May.
I already have my round-trip ticket.
The problem is, I don’t have time to get a 2-month visa because the process takes nearly a month.
From what I’ve read here and there, I need a return ticket valid for less than a month when I arrive in the Philippines to prove my good faith.
After that, I can apply for a 30-day extension at the immigration office.
I’m planning to either buy a fully refundable ticket to the nearest country or a fake ticket.
For 3 months, I’ll need to extend my visa two more times before my return date to France.
My question is this:
Will immigration ask me each time I extend my visa by one month to show proof of an exit ticket matching the new visa extension date?
Is it possible to extend directly by 2 months before the initial 30 days expire?
Thanks in advance for your experiences and tips! 😊
Hello to all the Thailand regulars.
I’ve been to Thailand several times, but it was about 20 years ago…
There’s a new system in place now, it seems.
TDAC – Thailand Digital Arrival Card.
Before arriving, I apply for a TDAC, okay. If during my stay I cross the border to spend a few days in Malaysia and then re-enter Thailand, do I need to submit a new TDAC application? Do I use the same TDAC as when I first entered the country?
Or do I initially have to pay for a Thai multi-entry visa?
Thanks in advance for your insights—I can’t find the answer online.
Pierre
I’ve been to Thailand several times, but it was about 20 years ago…
There’s a new system in place now, it seems.
TDAC – Thailand Digital Arrival Card.
Before arriving, I apply for a TDAC, okay. If during my stay I cross the border to spend a few days in Malaysia and then re-enter Thailand, do I need to submit a new TDAC application? Do I use the same TDAC as when I first entered the country?
Or do I initially have to pay for a Thai multi-entry visa?
Thanks in advance for your insights—I can’t find the answer online.
Pierre
My partner (Mexican) entered France on January 21st as a tourist. She was therefore entitled to stay for 90 days in the Schengen Area. She’ll be leaving for Mexico on April 16th, so she’ll have “used up” 86 days.
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
Hello,
We’re planning to travel to Indonesia (Sulawesi with family) next July and August for a stay longer than a month (about 6 weeks).
I’ve seen that it’s possible to get a 60-day visa before departure, but I’ve also read about people having a lot of trouble getting it (some even didn’t manage and had to leave without it).
We absolutely need to have these 4 visas BEFORE leaving because once we’re in Sulawesi, I’m not sure we’ll be able to go to an embassy to request a visa extension after 30 days.
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie




