État des pistes entre Demnate et Agouti pour faire de la moto? (Maroc)
by Randobecane
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Nous partons pour trois semaines au Maroc (à moto trail), au mois de mai .
Nous voudrions avoir confirmation de l'état des pistes de :
- Demenate , R302 Achaouikh , Agouti , El Had , Tizi-n-Ilissi Zaouïa-Ahanesal , Tilougguite .
- El Kisba , Naour , Tizi-n-Isly , Aghbala , puis soit Boumia par Tanou-ou-Fillali soit
par Bouâdil , Tamefra , Tounfite .
- Agoudal , Tizi-n-Ouano , Tilmi , Msemrir .
Si un Voyageur est passé par là depuis peu en 4x4 ou en moto ... des info seront
les bienvenues en plus de celles récoltées sur le FV .
JJ randobecane
bonsoir.
On ne peut pas savoir à l'avance dans quel état seront les pistes du haut atlas à la sortie de l'hiver.
La piste demnate-tioutline-tarbat n'tarsal-abachkou-est très mauvaise avec des passages difficile dans les environs de tarbat n'tarsal.
Personnellement, je privilégie la nouvelle route:damnate-imi nifri-ait blal(55 km)puis bonne piste de 22 km jusqu'à souk sebt abachkou et ensuite goudron sur 35 km jusqu'à agouti.(souk le dimanche à tabant)
La piste d'agouti-zawiat ahansal-tilouguite ne pose pas de problème.
Plutôt que de faire la route tilouguite-ouaouizaght-taguelft-ksiba, je vous suggère avant tilouguit de prendre à imi n'warg, la magnifique et spectaculaire piste qui longe l'assif melloul jusqu'à anergui(très belle vallée avec 3 gites d'étapes) et de là, le goudron pour tagueft, el arbaa(ne pas aller jusqu'à el ksiba)-naour-tizi n isly-cherket.(si vous avez le temps vous pouvez aller visiter près de boutfarda les impressionnants greniers de falaises sur les flans de l'oued attach"igherm aoujgal"), puis boumia-imilchil.(souk pittoresque le samedi).
Ensuite belle piste , beaux paysages-pour anefgou-anemzi et goudron pour tagoudit-tounfite-boumia.
Agoudal-tilmi-msemrir, quoique un peu difficile, jusqu'au 1° village de la vallée"ait moussa ou ichou", car non entretenu et peu utilisée, ne pose pas de problème.
Bonne préparatrion.
larazou
Merci beaucoup pour cette rapide et excellente réponse . Ainsi que pour les
suggestions d'autre parcours .Par contre vous citez certains noms de villages
que je ne trouve pas sur la carte 742 . Avez vous des cartes plus détaillées
ou avez vous les fameux guides...
JJ randobecane
Bonsoir.
La 742 est une carte routière au 1000000° en ce qui concerne le plan général et au 600000° pour les petits plans(région de marrakech et région du moyen atlas) avec indication de certaines pistes importantes.
Pour plus de détails, j'utilise les cartes topo. au 250000 ° et pour plus de précisions celles au 100000 °.
J'ai fait presque l'intégralité du parcours projeté en juillet 2009, à l'exclusion de la piste de l'assif melloul, qui était coupée jusqu'au mois d'octobre.(voir mon compte rendu dans la section 4x4)
Une fois votre itinéraire finalisé, je vous donnerai , si vous en avez besoin, les noms des villages sur votre parcours, ainsi que des N° de téléphone à appeler avant votre départ, pour vous enquérir de l'état des pistes que vous allez parcourir.
Cordialement
larazou
"pour faire de la moto"😮 j'ai jamais écris cela ?😕. Si je demande l'état des pistes c'est
parce que nous voyageons à moto dans une région précise et non pas pour aller y faire de la moto , c'est notre moyen de déplacement 🙁. Si j'ai oser ouvrir une discussion dans la rubrique Afrique du nord ( Maroc) c'est que j'ai pensé , quelle était plus consultée , et donc que j'avais plus de chance de réponses ...et aussi en donnant quelques précisions comme , le mode de transport ... Voyageusement étonné .😐
JJ randobecane
Bonjour Larazou, et encore merci pour toutes ces infos je ne manquerais pas de vous recontacter dés que notre voyage " à moto" sera bien ficelé . Cordialement .
JJ randobecane
BONJOUR
Quelques photos sur ce parcours au 10 oct. 2009 en Suzuki Jimny
La piste demnate-tioutline-tarbat n'tarsal-abachkou- avec des passages difficiles
Comme le souligne larazou
parcourS G3 GANDINI LES PISTES DU MAROC
http://picasaweb.google.fr/dominad35/Maroc2009?authkey=Gv1sRgCNmZncCZ4dn3nQE#
Cordialement
Bonjour Domi35 , et merci pour les belles photos et explications .J'ai déjà visionné vos
photos c'est excellent et très explicatif sur l'état du terrain ..
Nous avons aussi en 2008 et 2009 parcouru Tamtattouchte Msemrir , Boumalne Nekob ,
Est ce que la piste entre Demenate Achaouikh , Agouti , Taban est plus technique que celles citées ci dessus ou est ce du même type ( bien entendu si les intempéries n'ont
pas dégradé les lieux ).L'oasis de Finnt, est il accessible facilement de Ouarzazate .Merci pour les tuyaux .Cordialement .
JJ randobecane
Pas de problème à moto ( trail )
Mais beaucoup plus difficile si charger et à deux sur la moto ! Nous après renseignements avec les locaux en milieu de piste on nous a conseillé de faire demi-tour car chemin difficile avec une cote importante ! mais la capacité de franchissement du petit 4X4 Jimny nous étonne à chaque fois ! il est vrai que sur cette piste nous n’ avons rencontré aucun véhicule ! mais avec le temps magnifique et sec rien est impossible en prenant son temps !
Cordialement
Mais beaucoup plus difficile si charger et à deux sur la moto ! Nous après renseignements avec les locaux en milieu de piste on nous a conseillé de faire demi-tour car chemin difficile avec une cote importante ! mais la capacité de franchissement du petit 4X4 Jimny nous étonne à chaque fois ! il est vrai que sur cette piste nous n’ avons rencontré aucun véhicule ! mais avec le temps magnifique et sec rien est impossible en prenant son temps !
Cordialement
bonsoir
Pour l'oasis de fint, piste facile, les travaux de terrassement sont en cours, cette voie devant être goudronnée.Travaux de terrassement également en cours sur la piste passant près de fint et sortant à taznakht via tisli n ait douchche-tafounente.
Autre piste intéressante dans la région:celle qui part de ait saoun(avant agdez) et rejoint taznakht.
cordialement
larazou
Merci a tous pour tous ces
renseignements
JC coequipier de JJ
JJ randobecane
Nous l'avons faite dans le sens Boulmane Nekob . Premiere partie goudronnée , puis à l'attaque de la montée vers le col bonne piste terre , le col Tizi Tazzazert bon . La descente plus technique avec quelques marches , ornières , et quelques passages de ruissellements ravinés .Passé la partie pentue la piste s'améliore et reste bonne jusque à
Nekob avant la fin petit plateau caillouteux . Nous l'avons fait en 2009 sous un orage et nous étions accompagnés par une Renault 4L . En prenant son temps ça passe bien , puis vous avez les chevaux , nous sommes passés en 125 varadero lourdes et poussives ... .Dans le sans Nekob Boulmane la grimpette doit être plus dure ?. Nous remettons ça cette année pour voir le col sous le soleil .C'est une région magnifique .nous avons quelques photos sur notre site .Cordialement.
PS la photos 2 montre un des passages les plus durs dans la descente du Tazzazert.
JJ randobecane
slt les piquousés morocosé en vardero😉😉
Le piste 'agouti on l'a faite en 2006 http://deux400xraumaroc.blogspot.com/2007/04/lundi-30-octobre-marrakech-agouti-280.html Nous étions passés après les orages, la piste coupée à plusieurs endroits, mais c'est passé, en bécane on trouve toujours une solution. Sinon j'ai souvenir d'une piste superbe avec des points de vue et des panorama magnifiques Photos là : http://picasaweb.google.fr/EDN400/Maroc2006J9# http://picasaweb.google.fr/EDN400/Maroc2006J10#
Le piste 'agouti on l'a faite en 2006 http://deux400xraumaroc.blogspot.com/2007/04/lundi-30-octobre-marrakech-agouti-280.html Nous étions passés après les orages, la piste coupée à plusieurs endroits, mais c'est passé, en bécane on trouve toujours une solution. Sinon j'ai souvenir d'une piste superbe avec des points de vue et des panorama magnifiques Photos là : http://picasaweb.google.fr/EDN400/Maroc2006J9# http://picasaweb.google.fr/EDN400/Maroc2006J10#
Slt Eric , merci pour les informations sur les pistes et les photos .
- Ca a pas l'air facile🤪 , peu être il y a eu des travaux de
réparation sur les pistes aprés les crues hivernales .. .et depuis 2006...
Nous n'avons pas les mêmes chignoles nous sommes aussi
louds mais plus poussifs . Vous nous qualifiés bizarement , mais à
nos ages ...😕 passer le permis gros cubes serait plus difficile que passer un
oued en crue ... 🙁 Cordialement .
JJ randobecane
Slt ce n'est pas la moto qui fait le voyage, c'est le voyageur et ce genre de trip en 125 je dis respect. Pour les oueds en crus il ne faut pas être fort mais être patient , attendre la décrue et toujours vérifier a pieds avant, c'est ma stratégie. En ce moment la météo est catastrophique au Maroc, pluies diluviennes et malheureusement des morts
Ericdn bonjour , merci pour "le respect" , l'équipe de randobecane est honorée
par tes compliments 😊 . Est ce que tu as les WP des gravures rupestres vers le col
Tizi n'Tighiyst entre Demenate et Agouti . Je suis preneur, d'après tes photos ça
à l'air intéressant . 🙁 C'est pas trop difficile à trouver ?
JJ randobecane
Y a pas d'quoi, c'est sincère 😉😉
Pour les gravures c'est très facile, quasi au bord de la piste, entourées par un muret de pierres sèches, et des gardiens, des shibanis qui veulent poser pour la photo ( et la pièce aussi...).
J'ai pas le wps là, sinon sur mon blog tu peux télécharger les road books, c'est des fichiers excel je pense que le wp des gravures est indiqué, sinon envois moi un mail perso
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Hi there,
In January 2026, I’m planning a motorbike trip through northern Vietnam for 3–4 weeks.
Must-dos: Hanoi, RC4, Dien Bien Phu, and of course the must-see landscapes.
I’m looking for any great tips, ideas… and maybe even a riding partner.
Cheers
In January 2026, I’m planning a motorbike trip through northern Vietnam for 3–4 weeks.
Must-dos: Hanoi, RC4, Dien Bien Phu, and of course the must-see landscapes.
I’m looking for any great tips, ideas… and maybe even a riding partner.
Cheers
Hi everyone,
In November, we’re planning to do the Ha Giang loop and the RC4 by motorbike without a guide. 😎 We’re looking for a decent place to stay/rent in Ha Giang.
If anyone has any info, we’d be really interested.
Thanks in advance! 😉 Ladava
In November, we’re planning to do the Ha Giang loop and the RC4 by motorbike without a guide. 😎 We’re looking for a decent place to stay/rent in Ha Giang.
If anyone has any info, we’d be really interested.
Thanks in advance! 😉 Ladava
Hello! We’re planning a motorcycle trip that will include a visit to Auschwitz-Birkenau in June 2026.
We’re unsure (still debating) whether we should stay at a hotel on-site and get to the memorial with an Uber (leaving our bikes at the hotel) and book a guided tour, or base ourselves in Kraków and take a tour that includes transport.
One thing’s for sure—we’d prefer a guide in French since we don’t speak English 😅.
Could you share your experiences or advice? I understand we need to book online rather than on-site. Thanks in advance for your replies!
Could you share your experiences or advice? I understand we need to book online rather than on-site. Thanks in advance for your replies!
Hi everyone,
I’m planning a road trip in Cuba and was wondering if there are any bike rental places (125/500cc) with reasonable rates—not the Harley rental places!
Thanks for your help. Wave of headlights! !
I’m planning a road trip in Cuba and was wondering if there are any bike rental places (125/500cc) with reasonable rates—not the Harley rental places!
Thanks for your help. Wave of headlights! !
Hello,
Next October we’re planning to ride the Ruta de la Plata by motorcycle—a historic Spanish route that runs from Gijón to Seville, also known as the N630.
Has anyone here already ridden it?
Unfortunately, I’m worried that parts of the N630 may have disappeared or merged with the A66 motorway, forcing us to ride long stretches of highway, which we’d rather avoid.
Thanks in advance for any tips or details about this route!
Hi there!
I’m currently planning a 9-day route starting from Marrakech with my husband. We land on the morning of June 13th—so soon! 😊
And we’re flying back to France on June 21st at 9 PM!
We’ve rented two Royal Enfield 450s.
This is our first motorcycle trip in Morocco. I got my license two years ago with the dream of taking this kind of trip, and here we are! ✌️😍
In France, we usually ride between 300 to 400 km per day on roadsters. We’re not used to off-road tracks, so we’re looking for easy ones 😅—especially for me 😅.
For Morocco, I’ve planned stages of 200 to 300 km per day. Here’s the idea: Day 1 (departure at noon): Marrakech - Tizi n Test - Tafingoult (165 km - 4h15) Day 2: Tafingoult - Amzarkou - Telouet (200 km - 4h34) Day 3: Telouet - Ait Benhaddou - Ouarzazate - Boumalne (200 km - 3h30) (+ Vallée des Roses maybe) Day 4: Boumalne - Dades Gorges - Agoudal - Todra Gorges - Tinghir - Goulmima (291 km - 6h) Day 5: Goulmima - Midelt - Cirque Jaffar - Agoudim (280 km - 4h45) Day 6: Agoudim - Imilchil - Aghbala - El Ksiba (280 km - 4h45) Day 7: El Ksiba - La Cathédrale - Zaouiat Ahansal (212 km - 4h20) Day 8: Ahansal - Ouzoud Waterfalls via R 302 (188 km - 4h22) Day 9: Ouzoud - Marrakech (160 km - 2h43) End of the trip 😮.
What do you think?
We haven’t booked any hotels—is that a problem? We were thinking of deciding day by day based on our progress.
Can we take our helmets with us in the cabin, or should we pack them in the checked luggage surrounded by clothes to avoid damage?
I’d love any tips! 😊 Thanks!
In France, we usually ride between 300 to 400 km per day on roadsters. We’re not used to off-road tracks, so we’re looking for easy ones 😅—especially for me 😅.
For Morocco, I’ve planned stages of 200 to 300 km per day. Here’s the idea: Day 1 (departure at noon): Marrakech - Tizi n Test - Tafingoult (165 km - 4h15) Day 2: Tafingoult - Amzarkou - Telouet (200 km - 4h34) Day 3: Telouet - Ait Benhaddou - Ouarzazate - Boumalne (200 km - 3h30) (+ Vallée des Roses maybe) Day 4: Boumalne - Dades Gorges - Agoudal - Todra Gorges - Tinghir - Goulmima (291 km - 6h) Day 5: Goulmima - Midelt - Cirque Jaffar - Agoudim (280 km - 4h45) Day 6: Agoudim - Imilchil - Aghbala - El Ksiba (280 km - 4h45) Day 7: El Ksiba - La Cathédrale - Zaouiat Ahansal (212 km - 4h20) Day 8: Ahansal - Ouzoud Waterfalls via R 302 (188 km - 4h22) Day 9: Ouzoud - Marrakech (160 km - 2h43) End of the trip 😮.
What do you think?
We haven’t booked any hotels—is that a problem? We were thinking of deciding day by day based on our progress.
Can we take our helmets with us in the cabin, or should we pack them in the checked luggage surrounded by clothes to avoid damage?
I’d love any tips! 😊 Thanks!
Hey there, fellow riders,
I’m really keen on a motorcycle trip to Morocco, specifically the Middle Atlas. Does anyone have any info or tips on this idea? Planning to go in September or October...
Looking forward to hearing from you!
Christine






