Je prépare mon voyage au Laos en février et je calcule mon budget... Auriez-vous une idée des prix pour:
- une journée (tuk-tuk) sur le plateau des Boloven; cascades, un peu de marche... Départ et retour à Pakse. Je précise qu'on ne se sent pas capable de rouler en moto.
- l'aller-retour sur le Wat Phou (départ matin et retour début pm à Pakse)
- deux jours de treks avec nuit chez l'habitant à partir de Thakek (ou au pire une journée de trek sympa)
- une journée Thakek - grottes de Kong Lor - Vientane (pour autant que ce soit possible).
J'ai les prix de l'agence locale Green Discovery, recommandée partout, mais c'est du luxe !!! Ex: deux jours de trek autour de Thakek: $168 par personne (pour un groupe de 2) !!! 1 jour pour les Boloven: $78 pp. Kong Lor: $141 pour un jour !!! Evidemment cela diminue en fonction du nombre de participants mais cela reste démesuré.
Est-il facile de trouver sur place des locaux ou agences locales offrant des prestations quasi similaires pour bien moins cher ?
Par ailleurs, pour gagner du temps, on envisage peut-être de rejoindre Thakek depuis Pakse après avoir visité Wat Phou le matin. Possible en louant une voiture avec chauffeur pour toute la journée ? Avez-vous un ordre de prix ?
J'ai voyagé au Cambodge, en Indonésie, en Thaïlande, en Inde, en Birmanie, au Sri Lanka, en Malaisie mais les prix que je découvre sur le Laos pour les excursions me semblent nettement plus élevés...
A Pakse, si tu vas à la Sabaidy 2 guesthouse, le patron, Monsieur Vongh, qui parle et écrit un français impeccable, organise diverses excursions à des prix très raisonnables.
Il faut réserver les chambres par mail : phetsamone sihalat
Quand il n'y a pas de solution, c'est qu' il n'y a pas de problème !
Woody Allen
Merci pour l'info... Est-il nécessaire de réserver fin janvier/début février les chambres à l'avance ? D'habitude, j'arrive sur place et je cherche (sauf la première nuit après l'avion)...
Le mieux c'est de louer un scooter et rayonner, ça te reviendra beaucoup moins cher et la circulation au Laos est assez fluide et non chaotique. Le scooter est beaucoup plus maniable et facile que la moto.
J'ai fait la "Thakhek Loop" en 4 jour en scooter et c'était inoubliable !! Par contre, je n'ai pas fait le Kong-lo cave mais j'ai rencontré des personnes qui l'ont fait et ça en vaut la peine.
Pour aller au Kong-Lo cave, depuis thakhek, il y a une histoire de 130km, faisable en 2h30 de scooter sinon tu peux trouver des tuk tuk sur place qui t'amènera directement là-bas pour bien moins cher que si tu passes par une agence.
Le truc est que Thakhek n'est pas du tout touristique (comparé à Luang Prabang, Vientiane ou Paksé).
Le trajet Thakhek-Paksé dure plus ou moins 7-8h en bus... Le mieux est de visiter Wat Phou le matin, passer deux ou 3 jours (ou plus) sur le plateau des Bolovens (je recommande Tat Lo, c'était génial, très calme et authentique) avant d'aller à Thakhek plutôt que de tout enchaîner... Maintenant avec une voiture avec chauffeur, c'est possible mais beaucoup plus onéreux...
Toujours amusant de rencontrer un voisin de ma Cité Ardente :-)
Je suis d'accord que le Scooter est idéal... Mais bon, on n'est pas à l'aise avec ces engins là... Au Cambodge ou en Indonésie, on a loué plusieurs fois une moto-dop avec chauffeur... Super sympa. Le chauffeur connaissait la route et prenait les risques à notre place... On s'est parfois retrouvé à 3 sur la moto (avec nos gabarits belges !) :-)
J'ai l'impression que le Laos offre moins d'opportunités de déplacements.;.
On s'oriente vers 3 jours dans les alentours de Pakse pour le Wat Phou et les Bolovens.
Financièrement, on est tenté de payer un peu plus pour des déplacements rapides car, professionnellement, on est limité en jours de congés...
Si quelqu'un peut me recommander un chauffeur au départ de Pakse et me donner un prix par jour, all included, je suis preneur...
Salut, je rentre juste du Laos et j'ai fait un treck de deux jours à Tha Khaec avec nuit dans un village (dans un lodge et non chez l'habitant) : 65 euros par personne et on était un groupe de cinq, nous sommes passés par le point d'information touristique pour l'organisation. Le treck est sympa, pas très sportif : chemin plat avec de longs passages dans la jungle.
De Pakse à Tha Khaec il a des bus : environ 6 heures de trajet.
Prix pour les tours / personne
Prix pour le tuk-tuk / pour le trajet (2 personnes)
Les Bolavens et le Vat Phou sont aussi possible en moto (semi-automatique). Ca revient moins chere (entre 50 et 60.000 kips / jour) et on a beaucoup plus de liberte. Mais si comme tu le dis, t'es pas a l'aise avec ces engins la, n'insiste pas. Ca ne sert a rien a se forcer pour la suite ne prendre aucun plaisirs tellement on est stresse.
Bonjour Hervé.
Avez vous quelques infos sur votre trek dans les environs de Thakhek : facile à organiser ? avec quel organisme ? intéret ?
Merci beaucoup de votre aide.
Bonsoir Jean-Michel, le treck dans les environs de Tha Khek est très facile à organiser, il suffit de s'adresser au centre d'information touristique. L'intérêt du treck, c'est d'abord le prix, très abordable par rapport à des organismes tels que Green Discovery, ensuite c'est la nuit passée dans un beau village authentique avec l'accueil villageois (toute la soirée se déroule en compagnie des habitants : discussions et jeux), les paysages de pitons calacaires, les grottes. Les seuls bémols : il ne s'agit pas d'un treck sportif (idéal si tu n'aimes pas les gros efforts) et on chemine bcp en jungle (donc moins d'intérêt paysager)........mais c'est un petite rando sympa de deux jours que je recommande.
Merci Hervé. Cela donne effectivement envie de réserver 2 jours à la région.
As-tu eu l'occasion de visiter les grottes de Tham Kong Lo au nord de Thakhek ?
Jean Michel.
Je ne suis pas allé voir cette grotte, en revanche j'ai loué un motobyke à Tha Kek pour une demi journée, ce qui m'avait permis de visiter toutes les curiosités autour de la ville.
Nous avons fait un trek de deux jours à Tha Khaek et plusieurs balades sur le plateau de Bolaven et Champasak en octobre, j'en fait le récit avec photos et prix sur mon blog: http://anne-et-yannick-lamprier.over-blog.com/
Je suis rentré du Laos hier... Je posterai un mail détaillé plus tard sur mon voyage.
Pour Thakek, nous avons d'abord eu un épouvantable transfert depuis Paksé. Il n'y a qu'un seul bus VIP entre ces deux villes. Il part à 20h30 pour Vientane, passage vers 2-3h du matin à Thakek. Cela ne nous arrangeait pas du tout. Donc, on a pris un bus local. On nous annonçait entre 6 et 9h de voyage. Finalement, nous avons mis plus de 12h dont 2h30 d'attente sans explication à la gare des bus de Savannahket...
Heureusement, j'avais réservé l'hôtel à Thakek (Inthira, 21 EUR). Comme nous voulions partir dès le lendemain matin en trek de 2 j, malgré l'heure tardive (21h), la réception a appelé le responsable des excursions réalisées par l'office du tourisme (son nom est dans le lonely). Il est arrivé 15 minute plus tard et le lendemain, à 8h, nous étions en route !
Le prix pour deux jours était de 800.000 kips (environ 80 EUR) par personne, tout compris ! C'est très cher pour deux jours mais beaucoup moins que par Green Discovery qui a un comptoir dans le même hôtel. Nous avons eu un jeune guide (Mick) qui parlait correctement anglais et a fait le job sans souci.
Nous sommes partis en tuk-tuk à 8h, nous avons fait une halte de 20 min au marché puis pratiquement 1h de route jusqu'un village au milieu de pics rocheux. 2 heures de marche ensuite dans la jungle ou dans des prairies avec arrêt à deux grottes que l'on a "exploré". Parcours plat, pas du tout sportif. Ensuite excellent repas de poissions grillés au bord d'une grotte avec un lac où nous pouvions nous baigner mais vu la saison sèche, l'eau bien que bleue était trouble. On s'est abstenu... Ensuite, encore environ 1 h de marche vers une immense grotte qui traverse une colline... Puis encore 1h, 1h30 vers un stupa et une arrivée vers 15h30 dans un village au pied de superbes falaises... Là, échange avec la population en offrant de la beerlao et en jouant à la pétanque... On se comprenait via des dessions. Amusant mais pas profod. Le soir, bon repas et petite cérémonie porte-bonheur. Pas du tout "machin fait pour les touristes". Nuit dans une grand chambre sur matelas avec moustiquaire. WC à la turque et grande bassinne pour se laver. Le lendemain, environ 4 h de marche avec arrêts dans la jungle avec un peu plus de relief... Juste un peu fatigant vu la chaleur. Vers 12h30 arrivée au bord d'un petit lac au bleu fabuleux... On y a nagé. Puis repas au bord du lac et retour en voiture sur quelques kilomètres (car piste défoncée) puis tuk-tuk. Assez long quand même, je dirais 1h30. Retour à Thakek avant 16h.
Bref, sympa, surtout pour le village et la traversée de la grotte, ou des beaux paysages (mais moins impressionnants qu'à Vang Vieng à mon avis). Je trouve que cela reste cependant très cher mais l'argent semble profiter aux villageois. Au retour à Thakek, l'Inthira étant complet, on a logé au Mékong Hôtel. Banal mais convenable à 13 EUR. De toute façon, Thakek n'offre que peu d'intérêt. Les quelques touristes se retrouvent d'ailleurs à peu près tous à manger à l'Inthira ou le long du Mékong.
J'aurais voulu visiter Kong-Lo mais il faut compter 70 EUR par personne pour une excursion par l'office du tourisme. De plus, il y a environ 3h de trajet à l'aller et autant au retour (en minivan)... Trop crevant. On a préféré prendre le bus VIP de 9h30 pour Vientane (6h de trajet comme prévu). Kong-Lo doit être très intéressant mais il faut quand même préciser qu'on visite à la lampe torche et que la vision est limitée. On peut aussi aller à Kong Lo via les bus locaux mais bon courage ! Dans ce cas, il faut loger à proximité des grottes.
Merci Phil pour toutes ces infos.
Quelle galère votre liaison Pakse / Thakek ! J'espère que vous étiez en forme le lendemain pour le trek !
L'hôtel Inthira, il est comment ?
Vous confirmez donc que l'office de tourisme est très réactif. Vous n'êtes pas le premier à arriver tard le soir et à avoir un trek pour le lendemain matin. Bravo à eux !
Vous avez fait le trek avec combien de personne ?
Globalement, malgré le prix, vous recommandez ce trek ?
Encore merci et bonne journée.
Jean Michel.
L'Inthira est très bien mais les chambres standards sont minuscules et pas top si on n'est à deux mais pas en couple... Ok pour une ou deux nuits. Propre, douche "pluie", moustiquaire... Cela a même un vrai charme. Excellent resto, bons cocktails...
Oui, l'office est très réactif. Ils gardent aussi les bagages. Je précise que pour le trek, on porte soi-même ses affaires. De l'eau est aussi largement fournie. On était seulement deux. Le prix diminue en fonction du nombre. L'idéal est de trouver d'autres participants.
Ce n'est pas du tout un trek sportif, je dirais une belle rando, une grosse balade, d'environ 22-25 km sur deux jours (10 km le premier jour, 14 le second). Pas exceptionnel mais sympa. Oui, je recommande pour des voyageurs qui aiment prendre leur temps. Au Laos, de toute façon, on doit prendre son temps. Les laotiens ne sont pas du tout speedés ;-)
Ce qui est bien, c'est que la zone est très peu fréquentée -> quasi pas de touristes. On peut aussi voir les meilleurs sites en louant une moto, cela revient moins cher mais on perd la nuit dans la village.
Merci Phil, c'est super sympa de faire profiter de ton expérience.
J'attends avec impatience ton futur compte-rendu.
Merci pour tout et bonne journée.
Jean Michel.
Bonjour Phil,
Nous aussi avons fait cette rando, il est vrai que ça s'appelle trek, mais en fait c'est de la marche sur du plat... Mais la vie du village vaut le coup car c'est là où nous avons ressenti le plus d'authenticité durant tout notre voyage. Partout ailleurs, c'était quand même très touristique, même le plateau des Bolaven, duquel je me faisais une toute autre image, beaucoup plus sauvage que ça n'est en réalité. Enfin, bref, je touve que malgré le voyage très long en bus (nous venions de Vientiane et c'était aussi très long, le bus roulait très lentement, il a failli tomber en panne trois fois et il faisait chaud et il y avait de la poussière, mais c'est ça les voyages au Laos), je trouve donc que cette nuit dans ce village loin de tout vaut le coup... c'est, je crois, notre meilleur souvenir du Laos, le plus fort en tout cas, tout le reste étant asse convenu et touristique...Sauf peut-être les villages derrière Muang Ngoi Neua, dans le nord... A quatre, nous avions payé environ 55€/pers en octobre 2012...
Je suis d'accord, c'est probablement ce que j'ai vécu de plus authentique au Laos, du moins pour ce que j'en ai vu... En effet, pour des raisons de timing, nous ne sommes pas "montés" plus haut que Luang Prabang, donc je n'ai pas d'expérience de visite avec les tribus du nord.
Globalement, j'ai trouvé que certains sites étaient vraiment très fréquentés. Je m'attendais à un pays moins touristique... Surtout à Luang Prabang où certains sites étaient saturés (200 personnes sur le mont Phusi pour le coucher de soleil !!!, une foule effroyable aux grottes de Pak Ou, impossible d'apprécier le site)... Le pire étant la procession des moines sous les flashs.
Je suis particulièrement agacé par ces touristiques disneyland qui se photographient ou se filment devant des moines en prenant des pauses parfois ridicules. Je suis d'autant plus surpris que souvent ce sont des asiatiques qui ne respectent pas le bouddhisme (qui est peut-être même leur religion !): bruit, flash, photos en tournant le dos à Bouddah, etc... Grrr.
Un autre truc qui finit par m'énerver, ce sont les photos avec les tablettes... C'est ridicule et pas du tout discret... J'ai même vu un bonze en train de photographier ses camarades avec un iPad !
Donc, le "trek" à Thakek et sa nuit au village fait du bien...
Dans les sites touristiques, malgré sa réputation, Vang Vieng vaut mille fois le déplacement: site sompteux et très belles balades à faire en moto dans les environs... Il y a encore plein de jeunes mais ce n'est plus la folie dont la toile se faisait l'écho il y a encore quelques mois depuis la destruction des bars "chauds". Bref, Vang Vieng, cela reste cool mais aussi très reposant.
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After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027:
- Phnom Penh
- Kampong Cham
- Kratie
- Siem Reap
- Battambang
- Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights.
Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above.
Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
Bonjour
J'envisage un voyage en famille (ma femme et moi, 47 ans et nos 2 fils de 5 et 12 ans en juillet 2027) en Malaisie pour la dernière semaine de juin et les 2 premières de juillet 2027.
Nous avions l'habitude des road-trips à 2, puis à 3, mais depuis l'arrivée du 2ème, nous avons fait une parenthèse "camping village".
Voici venu le moment de reprendre nos bonnes vieilles habitudes, tout en adaptant le rythme avec des enfants.
Nous avons envie d'Asie. Nous avons déjà eu la chance de visiter auparavant la Thailande, l'Indonésie (Bali et Lombok) et le Sri Lanka.
Des amis nous ont bien vendu la Malaisie donc cela nous tente carrément.
Pour les fans et connaisseurs, quel pourrait être un bon itinéraire depuis Kuala Lumpur avec 3-4 points de chute maxi, combinant culture, nature et détente (je précise que nous ne sommes pas particulièrement fan de la plage). Le tout sans faire la course bien entendu.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you?
If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Hi,
On September 1st, we're heading to Kalimantan for six weeks, probably from Pontianak to the Derawan Islands.
I've scoured this site, which is usually my go-to 😉, and others like VoyageForum, but recent info is pretty scarce.
I'd love any tips on places you've visited—our itinerary is still a work in progress.
We're two couples traveling with backpacks, using buses, boats, guesthouses, and homestays.
Thanks in advance!
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you?
If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations:
We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights:
The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1:
We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2:
This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3:
With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4:
Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings.
We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops.
In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5:
Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6:
This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8:
Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10:
On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12:
We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines.
Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment.
We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15:
From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP).
We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning.
We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise.
Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16:
We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town.
It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view.
We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise.
In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911.
On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city.
We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17:
Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning.
Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in.
The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances:
In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary:
Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional.
Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips:
Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred.
PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront).
Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Hi there, I’ll be on vacation in Malaysia in November and plan to spend 5 days in Penang. After that, I’d like to visit some temples and places in Butterworth or nearby, and also explore the city. Since I usually get around on foot, which neighborhood would be best for me—meaning within a 30-minute walk of attractions, street food stalls, bus lines, etc.? Thanks in advance for your help!
Françoise
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur
Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral.
Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo).
Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok:
* Orangutan Center
* Malayan Sun Bear Center
* Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan.
Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari.
Jungle walk.
Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari.
Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port.
Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar
5 full days.
* Snorkeling
* Hiking
* Turtle watching
* Wild beaches
* Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland.
Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Hello, it’s been a while since I last asked for your help on this forum—I’ve really missed it! I hope you’re all doing well, whether you're new or returning members.
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight)
· Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok)
· Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok)
· Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x")
· Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x")
· Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x")
· Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x")
· Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x")
· Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x")
· Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok)
· Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok)
· Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok)
· Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Hi there,
I’ve found so many tips and reviews on this forum, so it’s my turn to contribute a little.
We spent just over two weeks with our family, with the following itinerary:
- Hanoi: 5 days
- Halong Bay: 3 days and 2 nights
- Tam Coc: 3 days
- Mai Chau: 2 days
- Sapa: 3 days
We got around by bike, scooter, Grab, and bus.
Our main accommodations were homestays and hotels in Hanoi.
We visited lots of museums, temples, and neighborhoods in Hanoi.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Sapa with May, a Hmong local, without going through an agency.
A few small regrets: the weather was overcast, and we couldn’t make it to Fansipan, but nothing major 😅. We also couldn’t find transport to get from Sapa to Mu Cang Chai.
Other than that, this trip will stay in our memories for the kindness of the Vietnamese people, the connections we made, the food (street food, homestays...), the coffee 😋, the landscapes, and how easy it was to get around...
Our goal was to take our time and focus only on a small part of northern Vietnam.
If you need any tips or recommendations, don’t hesitate to ask.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there, we’re landing at Hanoi Airport and would like to head straight to Cao Bang without going into Hanoi. Does anyone know if there are buses that go directly from the airport to Cao Bang (especially in the early afternoon)? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!
hi everyone,
I want to travel in the north for 3 weeks in September-October 2026 to meet ethnic minorities, photograph mountain rice terraces and their harvest, and revisit Halong Bay—but maybe Lan Ha Bay instead. Can you recommend one or more local agencies?
Thanks, and happy holidays!
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling.
For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees?
We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo.
Thanks for your tips and help!
I’d love to get some feedback on our itinerary—it’s probably pretty basic! This is our second trip to Asia and our first to Indonesia. We have three kids aged 20, 18, and 12. We land in Jakarta at 4 PM, spend 3 nights/2 days there, then take the train to Yogyakarta for 3 nights/2 days, followed by the train to Surabaya for 2 nights/1 day, then the train to Bromo for 1 day/1 night, a private driver to Ijen for 2 nights/2 days, then on to Bali (Ubud) for 4 nights/3 days, followed by Gili Air for 3 nights/2 days, Senggigi (Lombok) for 2 nights, and finally 5 nights in Kuta. I’m considering cutting the 2 nights in Senggigi to just keep Kuta and extend it to 7 nights. In Lombok, I’m not sure how to get around since I’m not comfortable with scooters... Your thoughts on all of this, and any advice, are more than welcome—don’t hesitate!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Hi! I’m planning a 15-day trip to Malaysia. The idea is to visit KL for 2 or 3 days, then Borneo, and I’m wondering what to do with the rest of the time. I’d like to finish with the Perhentian Islands... What do you think? Any tips or advice would be great—I’d really appreciate it!
Hi everyone,
I’m looking for addresses for guesthouses or, even better, houseboats or rafting houses on the River Kwai, between Kanchanaburi and Sangkhlaburi, to spend a few weeks contemplating this beautiful river.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Premaria
Hi there,
we’re currently in Mai Chau and tomorrow we’re hitting the road back to Hanoi to head up toward Bac Ha and Sapa.
We haven’t really had a set plan since we arrived—we’ve already done the Halong Bay on land and by sea.
I’ve got 2 free days before heading to Bac Ha and Sapa.
Any tips?
Thanks, and looking forward to hearing from you.
Hi fellow travelers,
First trip to Vietnam.
We’ll be arriving in Ho Chi Minh City during Tet.
Is it complicated to find accommodation and get around during this period?
Any tips would be welcome.
Thanks for your replies.
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip?
I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Hi there,
I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...