Frais de retrait d'argent par DAB en Thaïlande?
by Nessie2
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
voilà j'ai l habitude quand je voyage de retirer de l'argent aux DAB
je suis chez pass finance et je n'ai qu'1% de charge sur chaque retrait
mais il parait que la banque du pays prend un pourcentage ???
je ne me suis jamais vraiment penchée sur la question
qu'en est il ?
car voyager avec bcp de cash ça ne me branche pas trop
merci
vanessa
Comme tout ce qui compte dans la vie, un beau voyage est une oeuvre d'art.
André Suarè
Le fond du coeur est plus loin que le bout du monde. proverbe chinois
Bonjour
Sujet déjà traité sur ce forum, mais pour répondre, oui l'opérateur local prend également un joli pourcentage, ou une somme fixe, pour chaque retrait...
Avec une carte Visa Premier, il me semble que les frais sont nuls dans certaines banques, Ayodhya de mémoire... mais à vérifier...
Sujet déjà traité sur ce forum, mais pour répondre, oui l'opérateur local prend également un joli pourcentage, ou une somme fixe, pour chaque retrait...
Avec une carte Visa Premier, il me semble que les frais sont nuls dans certaines banques, Ayodhya de mémoire... mais à vérifier...
Toutes les banques en Thailande, et même Ayyudhya maintenant, prélèvent 150 bahts (donc pas un %) quelque soit le montant demandé 😕 Il faut donc mieux prélever un gros montant a chaque retrait pour diminuer ce coût (non justifié) 😠
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
Merci de la précision !
Oui ca ne sert désormais plus a rien de courrir en ville après un guichet jaune, j'ai bien encore essayé au mois de février cette année mais "niet", rien a faire (quelque soit la CB utilisée), c'est 150 bahts prélevés d'office 🤪 j'aimerai bien qu'on m'en explique la raison (car ca n'est bien evidemment qu'avec les cartes internationales, aucun prélèvement de ce type avec une carte thaie) 😕
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
150 baths à chaque retrait independamment du montant ou 150% en pourcentage du montant ??
bon faut mieux que je prenne du cash alors comme me l'a conseillé une amie ?
merci
bon faut mieux que je prenne du cash alors comme me l'a conseillé une amie ?
merci
Comme tout ce qui compte dans la vie, un beau voyage est une oeuvre d'art.
André Suarè
Le fond du coeur est plus loin que le bout du monde. proverbe chinois
Comme je l'ai dit précedemment, un montant fixe:
150 bahts (donc pas un %)
Imaginez un peu s'ils vous prélevaient 150% 😮😄😏 Faites le calcul 😉 Y aurait plus un touriste en Thailande 😇
150 bahts (donc pas un %)
Imaginez un peu s'ils vous prélevaient 150% 😮😄😏 Faites le calcul 😉 Y aurait plus un touriste en Thailande 😇
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
(car ca n'est bien evidemment qu'avec les cartes internationales, aucun prélèvement de ce type avec une carte thaie) 😕
frais de fonctionnement
avec une carte banque thaie si tu retires dans une autre banque voir une autre ville : 20 b
quand je depose du cash a la bkk bk pres de super rich ils me prennent aussi une commission
avec les banque rien de gratuit 😛
frais de fonctionnement
avec une carte banque thaie si tu retires dans une autre banque voir une autre ville : 20 b
quand je depose du cash a la bkk bk pres de super rich ils me prennent aussi une commission
avec les banque rien de gratuit 😛
j'aimerais savoir si en malaisie c pareil car je n'ai jamais fait attention à cela ?? et je retire tjs au distributeur ??
Comme tout ce qui compte dans la vie, un beau voyage est une oeuvre d'art.
André Suarè
Le fond du coeur est plus loin que le bout du monde. proverbe chinois
avec les banque rien de gratuit 😛
Oui ca je le sais bien 😄😏😉 mais pourquoi seulement depuis 2 ans (je crois me souvenir) et pourquoi pas avec la banque Ayudhya l'année dernière mais seulement depuis cette année?
Oui ca je le sais bien 😄😏😉 mais pourquoi seulement depuis 2 ans (je crois me souvenir) et pourquoi pas avec la banque Ayudhya l'année dernière mais seulement depuis cette année?
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
tu es oblige de le remarquer , il te demande ton accord pour les frais extra pour continuer l operation
aux philippines pareil 200 peso = 150 b
aux philippines pareil 200 peso = 150 b
ils ont du se dire qu il valait mieux grater un peu plus
Oui surement, une habitude chez les banques et les assurances en période de crise 🙁 Mais j'ai du mal a le comprendre en période de relance de l'industrie touristique (gratuité du visa d'un coté par exemple) après la crise dans le secteur issue des manifestations jaunes puis rouges. Ca me semble pas très cohérent mais bon les banques, ca n'est pas le gouvernement.
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
bizarre j'ai pas souvenir d'une telle arnaque les années passées lors de mes voyages ?? en malaisie il y a deux ans je retirais tjs à la banque sans avoir de sup ???
Comme tout ce qui compte dans la vie, un beau voyage est une oeuvre d'art.
André Suarè
Le fond du coeur est plus loin que le bout du monde. proverbe chinois
c'etait une belle operation de com de la part d ayutaya bk, tout le monde essayait de retirer chez eux
C'est la même chose aux Etats-Unis, 3 dollars à chaque retrait (et même si on est américain).
J'ai essayé de trouver une raison sur le net, mais à priori c'est juste pour se faire plus d'argent, voilà tout. Les banques quoi... 😠
J'ai essayé de trouver une raison sur le net, mais à priori c'est juste pour se faire plus d'argent, voilà tout. Les banques quoi... 😠
Oui et c'est pour cela que l'on a pas à ce plaindre en France avec nos banque 😇...
Et c'est la cata pour les Thai aussi , 20 baht de com si tu retire dans un autre Chengwat... 150 baht pour les farang parce qu'ils nous croient riche 🤪.
Beaucoup d'opération qui ne sont plus d'actualité en France et qui le sont en Thailande sont payant pour les Thai.
Moi je dirais de la mentalité des banques Thai.... On Taxe les Thai ... on va donc taxer aussi les Farang qui retire de l'argent sur les Dab
Moi je dirais de la mentalité des banques Thai.... On Taxe les Thai ... on va donc taxer aussi les Farang qui retire de l'argent sur les Dab
Olivier
vivre ses rêves....
Merci a vous tous, j'y vois plus clair maintenant (j'ai aussi nettoyé mes lunettes 😉), j'avais oublié cette histoire des 20 THB prélevés sur les retraits par CB thaie en dehors de la localisation de la banque ou tu as souscris un compte. Ça ne devient pas plus juste pour autant mais plus logique 😐
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
Bonjour (ou plutôt bonsoir, je te répond depuis la Thaïlande et ici il est 19:15).
Bref pour en revenir aux frais sur les retraits, il faut savoir que sur chaque retrait les banques chargent de 150 bats (3.75 €)
et cela quelque que soit le montant retiré.
D'autre part les distributeurs limitent le montant des retraits possibles, et cela en fonction du type de distributeur.
Pour un DAB sur voie publique, la limite est de 20 000 bats (490€)
On peut retirer légèrement plus dans les DAB des agences bancaires : 30 000 baths (750 €)
D'autre part en cas d'utilisation de la carte bancaire pour régler chez un commerçant, ce dernier majorera en général de 3% le montant du règlement à lui effectuer.
Pour conclure, pas simple de ne pas payer des frais qui s'ajoutent aux frais de change classiques appliqués par les banques.
Bon voyage
D'autre part en cas d'utilisation de la carte bancaire pour régler chez un commerçant, ce dernier majorera en général de 3% le montant du règlement à lui effectuer.
Pour conclure, pas simple de ne pas payer des frais qui s'ajoutent aux frais de change classiques appliqués par les banques.
Bon voyage
Merci ça rejoint totalment ce que ma cop me disait
mais pour la malaisie c pareil ?? je n'ai pas souvenir de cela il y a deux ans en comptant mes sous au distributeur 😇
Comme tout ce qui compte dans la vie, un beau voyage est une oeuvre d'art.
André Suarè
Le fond du coeur est plus loin que le bout du monde. proverbe chinois
avec une carte banque thaie si tu retires dans une autre banque voir une autre ville : 20 b
la TMB ne prend pas cette commission😏
la TMB ne prend pas cette commission😏
A propos de la commission retenue lors de retrait avec un CB Maestro aux DAB / ATM, en Suisse, par exemple, c'est 4,50 frs (soit 3€ env.) comme dans presque tous les pays.
Retrait avec une VISA : 2,5% dès 100 € + 4,5 € minimum Retrait avec Mastercard : 3,5 % + 7,5 € minimum Retrait avec la Postcard à l'étranger : 3€
Donc, ne pas se contenter de plusieurs petits retraits, ça peut vous revenir très cher en commissions....😊
Retrait avec une VISA : 2,5% dès 100 € + 4,5 € minimum Retrait avec Mastercard : 3,5 % + 7,5 € minimum Retrait avec la Postcard à l'étranger : 3€
Donc, ne pas se contenter de plusieurs petits retraits, ça peut vous revenir très cher en commissions....😊
J'ai retiré l'équivalent de 478,18 euros le 3 février dans un ATM en Thaïlande.
Ma banque, le Crédit Agricole m'a facturé l'opération 15,56 euros.
Mon épouse a fait un retrait dans un ATM en Thaïlande. Les frais de retraits étaient proportionnellement identiques.
En novembre, j'ai fait des retraits aux guichets de la banque mentionnée par Boumastick Frais proportionnellement identiques. Rien à voir avec les commissions très faibles indiquées. C'est de l'ordre de 25 euros pour 800 euros retirés. Plus la commission de la banque thaïe.
Retrait à Penang en Malaisie, idem. Commission identiques.
Retraits en Indonésie, identiques.
La banque locale, BCA demande 50 000 rps de frais. Taux de change inférieur au taux officiels, +frais de 24 euros ( env ). Je n'arrive pas à avoir le détails des retraits que j'ai fait en Thaïlande en Nov et Janv, mais je suis certain qu'il y avait à chaque fois des frais élevés.
En novembre, j'ai fait des retraits aux guichets de la banque mentionnée par Boumastick Frais proportionnellement identiques. Rien à voir avec les commissions très faibles indiquées. C'est de l'ordre de 25 euros pour 800 euros retirés. Plus la commission de la banque thaïe.
Retrait à Penang en Malaisie, idem. Commission identiques.
Retraits en Indonésie, identiques.
La banque locale, BCA demande 50 000 rps de frais. Taux de change inférieur au taux officiels, +frais de 24 euros ( env ). Je n'arrive pas à avoir le détails des retraits que j'ai fait en Thaïlande en Nov et Janv, mais je suis certain qu'il y avait à chaque fois des frais élevés.
Quand on reste un certain temps au pays, le mieux, - car c'est très facile, rapide et pas cher -, est quand même d'ouvrir un compte local avec une carte de retrait et d'y déposer ses espèces.
Et si vous revenez l'année d'après au pays, vous faites pareil ou vous faites un virement depuis votre banque d'origine avant d'arriver.
Avec cette carte de retrait, les limites sont larges (définies par vous avec le banquier), et les frais sont de 20 bahts si vous retirez à une autre banque ou dans une autre province que celle du compte.
salut une bonne solution ne pas oublier de payer les frais de carte tous les ans pour qu'elle ne soit pas arrêtée si vous ne l'utilisée pendant plus d'un an😄
les voyages forment la jeunesse , vive la retraite
ne pas oublier de payer les frais de carte tous les ans pour qu'elle ne soit pas arrêtée si vous ne l'utilisée pendant plus d'un an
Bonne info que j'ignorais, merci ! Et ? Ils ne prélèvent pas automatiquement ces frais sur le solde du compte ? Alors ça inciterait à revenir au moins une fois par an... Sont malins... 😎
Bonne info que j'ignorais, merci ! Et ? Ils ne prélèvent pas automatiquement ces frais sur le solde du compte ? Alors ça inciterait à revenir au moins une fois par an... Sont malins... 😎
Si, des frais peuvent aussi être prélevés directement sur le compte pour non utilisation de la carte ou du compte.
Attention, le délai de 1 an avant blocage de la carte peut aussi être de seulement 6 moins.
Attention, le délai de 1 an avant blocage de la carte peut aussi être de seulement 6 moins.
Si, des frais peuvent aussi être prélevés directement sur le compte pour non utilisation de la carte ou du compte.
Attention, le délai de 1 an avant blocage de la carte peut aussi être de seulement 6 moins.
Non, je ne voulais pas parler de frais dans le sens pénalités, mais des frais de renouvellement automatique de la carte qui pourraient être prélevés directement. ??
Non, je ne voulais pas parler de frais dans le sens pénalités, mais des frais de renouvellement automatique de la carte qui pourraient être prélevés directement. ??
Si, des frais peuvent aussi être prélevés directement sur le compte pour non utilisation de la carte ou du compte.
Attention, le délai de 1 an avant blocage de la carte peut aussi être de seulement 6 moins.
Non, je ne voulais pas parler de frais dans le sens pénalités, mais des frais de renouvellement automatique de la carte qui pourraient être prélevés directement. ??
les frais annuels d'une carte emise par une banque thaie sont preleves automatiquement
Non, je ne voulais pas parler de frais dans le sens pénalités, mais des frais de renouvellement automatique de la carte qui pourraient être prélevés directement. ??
les frais annuels d'une carte emise par une banque thaie sont preleves automatiquement
Cartes utilisées: MasterCard et Visa.
Différence entre carte de crédit et carte bancaire ?
Je suis en Indonésie et je n'arrive pas à remonter jusqu'en janvier, date où j'étais en Thaïlande. Je rentre bientôt, donc, je jetterai un oeil sur ces facturations et je reviendrai sur ce sujet.
Différence entre carte de crédit et carte bancaire ?
Je suis en Indonésie et je n'arrive pas à remonter jusqu'en janvier, date où j'étais en Thaïlande. Je rentre bientôt, donc, je jetterai un oeil sur ces facturations et je reviendrai sur ce sujet.
Si tu as utilisé une Mastercard et une Visa, elles sont toutes deux des cartes de crédit et les frais sont très élevés si tu retires de l'argent dans les DAB / ATM.
La différence entre carte de crédit et carte bancaire :
carte de crédit : comme son nom l'indique, te permet de retirer de l'argent que tu rembourses sur facture. Maintenant il existe des cartes de crédit "prepaid" sur lesquelles tu verses un certain montant, comme une carte bancaire et les frais sont moindre puisque ce n'est plus un "crédit".
Avec la VISA, par exemple, si tu es à court d'argent, tu peux retirer au guichet d'une banque jusqu'à 500 $ sur présentation de ton passeport et de ta carte, bien évidemment. Là aussi les frais sont élevés, mais cela dépanne en cas de pépin...
carte bancaire : est reliée à ton compte courant bancaire et les prélèvements te coûtent 3€ + les frais de change de ta banque.
J'espère que j'ai répondu à ta question. 😄
La différence entre carte de crédit et carte bancaire :
carte de crédit : comme son nom l'indique, te permet de retirer de l'argent que tu rembourses sur facture. Maintenant il existe des cartes de crédit "prepaid" sur lesquelles tu verses un certain montant, comme une carte bancaire et les frais sont moindre puisque ce n'est plus un "crédit".
Avec la VISA, par exemple, si tu es à court d'argent, tu peux retirer au guichet d'une banque jusqu'à 500 $ sur présentation de ton passeport et de ta carte, bien évidemment. Là aussi les frais sont élevés, mais cela dépanne en cas de pépin...
carte bancaire : est reliée à ton compte courant bancaire et les prélèvements te coûtent 3€ + les frais de change de ta banque.
J'espère que j'ai répondu à ta question. 😄
les frais annuels d'une carte emise par une banque thaie sont preleves automatiquement
Parfait ! Voilà une réponse concrète et claire. Merci ! 😉
Parfait ! Voilà une réponse concrète et claire. Merci ! 😉
A l'étranger, quand je retire de l'argent avec ma MasterCard, mon compte doit être crédité au minimum de la somme que je veux retirer.
Pour ce faire, je dois taper un code. "Suite à cela, ma banque " donne son accord.Donc je ne bénéficie pas d'un prêt, puisque la validation de mon code par " ma banque " indique que j'ai cette somme sur mon compte.
Ce n'est donc pas une carte de crédit.🤪
Tu écris ensuite qu'une carte bancaire est une carte relié à mon compte courant bancaire. C'est précisément ce qu'est ma MasterCard ainsi que la carte Visa de mon conjoint. Ces cartes sont directement liées nos comptes bancaires. 🤪
La question reste en suspend.🙂
Tu écris ensuite qu'une carte bancaire est une carte relié à mon compte courant bancaire. C'est précisément ce qu'est ma MasterCard ainsi que la carte Visa de mon conjoint. Ces cartes sont directement liées nos comptes bancaires. 🤪
La question reste en suspend.🙂
A mon avis, vous avez ce qu'on appelle des cartes VISA et Mastercard Prepaid. C'est à dire sur lesquelles vous déposez un certain montant qui est d'ailleurs limité par la banque émettrice. Vous pouvez retirer de l'argent dans les limites de ce versement
Donc, si j'ai bien compris, vos salaires sont versés dans les banques émettrices de ces cartes, ce qui semble curieux, puisque le montant des cartes est limité. Ou alors vos salaires sont versés sur un compte postal ?
Toujours est-il que les frais que vous avez payés sont exorbitants, d'ù mon étonnement. 😛
Donc, si j'ai bien compris, vos salaires sont versés dans les banques émettrices de ces cartes, ce qui semble curieux, puisque le montant des cartes est limité. Ou alors vos salaires sont versés sur un compte postal ?
Toujours est-il que les frais que vous avez payés sont exorbitants, d'ù mon étonnement. 😛
Une carte MasterCard gold a&u Crédit Agricole et mon épouse a une carte Visa dans une banque Populaire.
Je ne sais pas où il y a des cartes " pre paid ", mais en France cela ne semble pas exister. C'est même sûr si je regarde Wikipedia.
Nos salaires sont versés sur des comptes des banques émettrices de ces cartes . Les retraits sont limités en fonction de le nature de la carte. Je retire 10 Millions de rupiahs par semaine , mais je pourrais peut- ëtre plus.
Donc exit la banque postale.
Mais c'est vrai que ce système qui apparaît très simple, genre j'ai 150 000 euros en banque et je demande un retrait de 800 euros en Indonésie. Après accord de ma banque ( code secret ) je reçois 10 millions de rupiahs, maius la prestation me reviens au final à 50 euros.
Si ce n'est pas du vol, cela y ressemble.
Je vais me renseigner auprès de Que Choisir en France.
Mais ce que j'écris est du vécu en France avec le Crédit Agricole et la Bred. Je crois que pour toutes les banques françaises, c'est pareil.
Existe -t-il d'autres moyens de ne pas être raquettés de la sorte ?
Je ne sais pas où il y a des cartes " pre paid ", mais en France cela ne semble pas exister. C'est même sûr si je regarde Wikipedia.
Nos salaires sont versés sur des comptes des banques émettrices de ces cartes . Les retraits sont limités en fonction de le nature de la carte. Je retire 10 Millions de rupiahs par semaine , mais je pourrais peut- ëtre plus.
Donc exit la banque postale.
Mais c'est vrai que ce système qui apparaît très simple, genre j'ai 150 000 euros en banque et je demande un retrait de 800 euros en Indonésie. Après accord de ma banque ( code secret ) je reçois 10 millions de rupiahs, maius la prestation me reviens au final à 50 euros.
Si ce n'est pas du vol, cela y ressemble.
Je vais me renseigner auprès de Que Choisir en France.
Mais ce que j'écris est du vécu en France avec le Crédit Agricole et la Bred. Je crois que pour toutes les banques françaises, c'est pareil.
Existe -t-il d'autres moyens de ne pas être raquettés de la sorte ?
Les gueux voyagent avec une carte de crédit et mangent des boîtes alimentaires low cost pour apurer leurs dettes...Toutes les cartes mastercard, visa, amex, ..ne sont pas toujours des cartes de crédit; je voyage avec l'une de ces cartes et la somme est débitée automatiquement.
En outre, pour mes enfants mineurs, j'ai offert une carte prépaid qui a la même fonction qu'une carte de débit avec les avantages d'une carte internationale sans les assurances....
Je vous conseille vivement de changer de banque..là c'est du raket
Je vous conseille vivement de changer de banque..là c'est du raket
en tout cas, il y a un certain problème, si ce n'est un problème certain. Si votre compte est couvert, c'est vraiment incompréhensible qu'une banque vous facture de tels frais. J'abonde dans le sens de Abominable 🤪
en tout cas, il y a un certain problème, si ce n'est un problème certain. Si votre compte est couvert, c'est vraiment incompréhensible qu'une banque vous facture de tels frais. J'abonde dans le sens de Abominable 🤪
Vou semblé mélanger les cartes et les marques des carte.
Les 2 plus gos opérateur son bien sur Visa et Mastercard, mais c gros opérateur son affilier ensuite a des réseaux... de retyrait:
+Plus Sirus Unionpay ETC
Si vous avez une carte de crédit (une vrais)
Elle a paiement immédiat ou différé, mais on vous fait crédit...
Même si vous n'avez pas l'argent sur votre compte elle vous donne l montant demandé...(les plafonds (retrait, achat) dépendant du type de carte normal, gold, platinium, VIP...etc...
En général ces cartes on une puce cassement dans tout les pays maintenant
Ces carte son payante dans la grande majorité des pays (et pas donner) vous payer donc déjà votre droit au crédit…
Lors des retrait a l'étranger, la grande majorité des réseaux d'ATM vous ferons payer l utilisation de la machine (150THB en Thaïlande, 200Pph...) cela est en général une somme minime.. parfois on a des surprise, comme la Bank of Ayudhya ou l'UOB qui ne facturais pas les retrait durant un temps… Il on désormais arrêter :-(((
Pour les achat vous serez "charger" pars le commerçants de 3 ou 4% en plus de votre achat, cela lui sert a payer la location du terminal, payer les commission...etc
Les carte de retrait (Debit Card en anglais)
La vous ne pouvez retirer que ce que vous avez en banque, du coup les plafond son plus flexible puisque vous pouvez si vous le souhaitez retirer de grosse sommes..
A savoir que les "Debit Card" Thai fonctionne aussi en Malaisie, Indonésie, Philippines, …
Même cout que la carte de crédit pour les carte étrangère…
Pour les porteur de carte Tahi c'est 20 baht quant vous retirer dans un distributeur autre que votre banque, ou quant vous sorter de la region ou est tenu votre compte…
pour en finir avec les commissions la plus grosse partis elle vas venir de ce que vous prend votre banque en Europe sur le retrait...
Déja le taux de change qui vas vous être appliqué n'est pas tres bon pour vous...
Ensuite il y a en général une part fixe (dépend des banque, mais les française ce gratte pas comme on dit)
Et ensuite un pourcentage sur la transaction..
ces commission peuvent facilement monté a 15 ou 20€
certaine banque mutualiste en France on un montant unique pars transaction.
Pour conclure, l'argent electronique n'est pas gratuit, donc si vous le confié a un organisme, il est un peux normal que vous payer a un moment le syteme qui met votre argent en sécurité, rien de plus.
Pour ceux qui vienne souvent ici, je leurs conseil d'ouvrir un compte et avec leurs carte de retrait il serons tranquille partout a moindre frais...
Sawadee Krap
Les 2 plus gos opérateur son bien sur Visa et Mastercard, mais c gros opérateur son affilier ensuite a des réseaux... de retyrait:
+Plus Sirus Unionpay ETC
Si vous avez une carte de crédit (une vrais)
Elle a paiement immédiat ou différé, mais on vous fait crédit...
Même si vous n'avez pas l'argent sur votre compte elle vous donne l montant demandé...(les plafonds (retrait, achat) dépendant du type de carte normal, gold, platinium, VIP...etc...
En général ces cartes on une puce cassement dans tout les pays maintenant
Ces carte son payante dans la grande majorité des pays (et pas donner) vous payer donc déjà votre droit au crédit…
Lors des retrait a l'étranger, la grande majorité des réseaux d'ATM vous ferons payer l utilisation de la machine (150THB en Thaïlande, 200Pph...) cela est en général une somme minime.. parfois on a des surprise, comme la Bank of Ayudhya ou l'UOB qui ne facturais pas les retrait durant un temps… Il on désormais arrêter :-(((
Pour les achat vous serez "charger" pars le commerçants de 3 ou 4% en plus de votre achat, cela lui sert a payer la location du terminal, payer les commission...etc
Les carte de retrait (Debit Card en anglais)
La vous ne pouvez retirer que ce que vous avez en banque, du coup les plafond son plus flexible puisque vous pouvez si vous le souhaitez retirer de grosse sommes..
A savoir que les "Debit Card" Thai fonctionne aussi en Malaisie, Indonésie, Philippines, …
Même cout que la carte de crédit pour les carte étrangère…
Pour les porteur de carte Tahi c'est 20 baht quant vous retirer dans un distributeur autre que votre banque, ou quant vous sorter de la region ou est tenu votre compte…
pour en finir avec les commissions la plus grosse partis elle vas venir de ce que vous prend votre banque en Europe sur le retrait...
Déja le taux de change qui vas vous être appliqué n'est pas tres bon pour vous...
Ensuite il y a en général une part fixe (dépend des banque, mais les française ce gratte pas comme on dit)
Et ensuite un pourcentage sur la transaction..
ces commission peuvent facilement monté a 15 ou 20€
certaine banque mutualiste en France on un montant unique pars transaction.
Pour conclure, l'argent electronique n'est pas gratuit, donc si vous le confié a un organisme, il est un peux normal que vous payer a un moment le syteme qui met votre argent en sécurité, rien de plus.
Pour ceux qui vienne souvent ici, je leurs conseil d'ouvrir un compte et avec leurs carte de retrait il serons tranquille partout a moindre frais...
Sawadee Krap
Chok Dee
Vou semblé mélanger les cartes et les marques des carte.
Les 2 plus gos opérateur son bien sur Visa et Mastercard, mais c gros opérateur son affilier ensuite a des réseaux... de retyrait:
+Plus Sirus Unionpay ETC
Si vous avez une carte de crédit (une vrais)
Elle a paiement immédiat ou différé, mais on vous fait crédit...
Même si vous n'avez pas l'argent sur votre compte elle vous donne l montant demandé...(les plafonds (retrait, achat) dépendant du type de carte normal, gold, platinium, VIP...etc...
En général ces cartes on une puce cassement dans tout les pays maintenant
Ces carte son payante dans la grande majorité des pays (et pas donner) vous payer donc déjà votre droit au crédit…
Lors des retrait a l'étranger, la grande majorité des réseaux d'ATM vous ferons payer l utilisation de la machine (150THB en Thaïlande, 200Pph...) cela est en général une somme minime.. parfois on a des surprise, comme la Bank of Ayudhya ou l'UOB qui ne facturais pas les retrait durant un temps… Il on désormais arrêter :-(((
Pour les achat vous serez "charger" pars le commerçants de 3 ou 4% en plus de votre achat, cela lui sert a payer la location du terminal, payer les commission...etc
Les carte de retrait (Debit Card en anglais)
La vous ne pouvez retirer que ce que vous avez en banque, du coup les plafond son plus flexible puisque vous pouvez si vous le souhaitez retirer de grosse sommes..
A savoir que les "Debit Card" Thai fonctionne aussi en Malaisie, Indonésie, Philippines, …
Même cout que la carte de crédit pour les carte étrangère…
Pour les porteur de carte Tahi c'est 20 baht quant vous retirer dans un distributeur autre que votre banque, ou quant vous sorter de la region ou est tenu votre compte…
pour en finir avec les commissions la plus grosse partis elle vas venir de ce que vous prend votre banque en Europe sur le retrait...
Déja le taux de change qui vas vous être appliqué n'est pas tres bon pour vous...
Ensuite il y a en général une part fixe (dépend des banque, mais les française ce gratte pas comme on dit)
Et ensuite un pourcentage sur la transaction..
ces commission peuvent facilement monté a 15 ou 20€
certaine banque mutualiste en France on un montant unique pars transaction.
Pour conclure, l'argent electronique n'est pas gratuit, donc si vous le confié a un organisme, il est un peux normal que vous payer a un moment le syteme qui met votre argent en sécurité, rien de plus.
Pour ceux qui vienne souvent ici, je leurs conseil d'ouvrir un compte et avec leurs carte de retrait il serons tranquille partout a moindre frais...
Sawadee Krap
Rien a redire a part que je precise a nos amis suisses ou belges que les banques françaises sont vraiment bien plus cheres que chez eux ( 10 x 20 x plus sur certaines transactions )
Les 2 plus gos opérateur son bien sur Visa et Mastercard, mais c gros opérateur son affilier ensuite a des réseaux... de retyrait:
+Plus Sirus Unionpay ETC
Si vous avez une carte de crédit (une vrais)
Elle a paiement immédiat ou différé, mais on vous fait crédit...
Même si vous n'avez pas l'argent sur votre compte elle vous donne l montant demandé...(les plafonds (retrait, achat) dépendant du type de carte normal, gold, platinium, VIP...etc...
En général ces cartes on une puce cassement dans tout les pays maintenant
Ces carte son payante dans la grande majorité des pays (et pas donner) vous payer donc déjà votre droit au crédit…
Lors des retrait a l'étranger, la grande majorité des réseaux d'ATM vous ferons payer l utilisation de la machine (150THB en Thaïlande, 200Pph...) cela est en général une somme minime.. parfois on a des surprise, comme la Bank of Ayudhya ou l'UOB qui ne facturais pas les retrait durant un temps… Il on désormais arrêter :-(((
Pour les achat vous serez "charger" pars le commerçants de 3 ou 4% en plus de votre achat, cela lui sert a payer la location du terminal, payer les commission...etc
Les carte de retrait (Debit Card en anglais)
La vous ne pouvez retirer que ce que vous avez en banque, du coup les plafond son plus flexible puisque vous pouvez si vous le souhaitez retirer de grosse sommes..
A savoir que les "Debit Card" Thai fonctionne aussi en Malaisie, Indonésie, Philippines, …
Même cout que la carte de crédit pour les carte étrangère…
Pour les porteur de carte Tahi c'est 20 baht quant vous retirer dans un distributeur autre que votre banque, ou quant vous sorter de la region ou est tenu votre compte…
pour en finir avec les commissions la plus grosse partis elle vas venir de ce que vous prend votre banque en Europe sur le retrait...
Déja le taux de change qui vas vous être appliqué n'est pas tres bon pour vous...
Ensuite il y a en général une part fixe (dépend des banque, mais les française ce gratte pas comme on dit)
Et ensuite un pourcentage sur la transaction..
ces commission peuvent facilement monté a 15 ou 20€
certaine banque mutualiste en France on un montant unique pars transaction.
Pour conclure, l'argent electronique n'est pas gratuit, donc si vous le confié a un organisme, il est un peux normal que vous payer a un moment le syteme qui met votre argent en sécurité, rien de plus.
Pour ceux qui vienne souvent ici, je leurs conseil d'ouvrir un compte et avec leurs carte de retrait il serons tranquille partout a moindre frais...
Sawadee Krap
Rien a redire a part que je precise a nos amis suisses ou belges que les banques françaises sont vraiment bien plus cheres que chez eux ( 10 x 20 x plus sur certaines transactions )
Mai Pen Rai attitude !!!
Vou semblé mélanger les cartes et les marques des carte. citation]
En fait tu dis d'une autre façon ce que je disais plus haut : Je ne parlais que des cartes VISA et Mastercard émises par certaines banques et qui sont de "vraies" cartes de crédit payantes à l'années, + des commissions aux retraits ainsi que des intérêts débiteurs.
Les autres cartes, ce que j'appelle cartes bancaires, sont liées aux banques du pays où vous habitez, ce sont les carte "maestro", carte bleue en France ou encore cartes postales, celles ci ne sont pas des cartes de crédit et donnent accès à son compte - s'il est réapprovisionné - via un DAB /ATM, avec des frais de 3€ ou 150 baths.
Enfin bref, j'ai l'impression de me répéter.
Mais bon, tout est OK pour moi, pas besoin de remettre la discussion sur le tapis, je vois que nous avons pour finir la m ême explications .😉😉😉
Pour finir, c'est vrai qu'en France, le service bancaires est hors de prix....🏴☠️
En fait tu dis d'une autre façon ce que je disais plus haut : Je ne parlais que des cartes VISA et Mastercard émises par certaines banques et qui sont de "vraies" cartes de crédit payantes à l'années, + des commissions aux retraits ainsi que des intérêts débiteurs.
Les autres cartes, ce que j'appelle cartes bancaires, sont liées aux banques du pays où vous habitez, ce sont les carte "maestro", carte bleue en France ou encore cartes postales, celles ci ne sont pas des cartes de crédit et donnent accès à son compte - s'il est réapprovisionné - via un DAB /ATM, avec des frais de 3€ ou 150 baths.
Enfin bref, j'ai l'impression de me répéter.
Mais bon, tout est OK pour moi, pas besoin de remettre la discussion sur le tapis, je vois que nous avons pour finir la m ême explications .😉😉😉
Pour finir, c'est vrai qu'en France, le service bancaires est hors de prix....🏴☠️
Pour ceux qui vienne souvent ici, je leurs conseil d'ouvrir un compte et avec leurs carte de retrait il serons tranquille partout a moindre frais...
C'est juste ce que je disais en haut de page. 😉
C'est juste ce que je disais en haut de page. 😉
Vou semblé mélanger les cartes et les marques des carte. citation]
...Les autres cartes, ce que j'appelle cartes bancaires, sont liées aux banques du pays où vous habitez, ce sont les carte "maestro", carte bleue en France ou encore cartes postales, celles ci ne sont pas des cartes de crédit et donnent accès à son compte - s'il est réapprovisionné - via un DAB /ATM, avec des frais de 3€ ou 150 baths.
Avec les carte Thailandaise pars exemple ce n'est pas seulement dans le pays ou tu est, si tu utilise le même réseau (Plus Cirus, Maestro ...) tu peux retirer aussi dans tout les pays de la région...
...Les autres cartes, ce que j'appelle cartes bancaires, sont liées aux banques du pays où vous habitez, ce sont les carte "maestro", carte bleue en France ou encore cartes postales, celles ci ne sont pas des cartes de crédit et donnent accès à son compte - s'il est réapprovisionné - via un DAB /ATM, avec des frais de 3€ ou 150 baths.
Avec les carte Thailandaise pars exemple ce n'est pas seulement dans le pays ou tu est, si tu utilise le même réseau (Plus Cirus, Maestro ...) tu peux retirer aussi dans tout les pays de la région...
Chok Dee
Pour les achat vous serez "charger" pars le commerçants de 3 ou 4% en plus de votre achat, cela lui sert a payer la location du terminal, payer les commission...etc
C'est de moins en moins le cas, de plus en plus de commerçant ne prend plus les 3-4% de charge... BIG C, Lotus, Makro, Global house, Home pro, et autre plus petite enseigne. 🙂
C'est de moins en moins le cas, de plus en plus de commerçant ne prend plus les 3-4% de charge... BIG C, Lotus, Makro, Global house, Home pro, et autre plus petite enseigne. 🙂
Olivier
vivre ses rêves....
Pour finir, c'est vrai qu'en France, le service bancaires est hors de prix....🏴☠️
Je ne trouve pas du tout hors de prix les banques française, mais certaine banques Françaises ont des tarifs sur leur service plus élevé que les autres. Que devrait on dire des banques Thaïlandaise....où d'autre à travers le monde.... C'est sûr aussi qu'en choisissant une Mastercard juste pour le fun..engendre forcément des frais supplémentaire. Une visa ou Visa Premier pour ceux qui voyagent fréquemment suffit largement.
Je ne trouve pas du tout hors de prix les banques française, mais certaine banques Françaises ont des tarifs sur leur service plus élevé que les autres. Que devrait on dire des banques Thaïlandaise....où d'autre à travers le monde.... C'est sûr aussi qu'en choisissant une Mastercard juste pour le fun..engendre forcément des frais supplémentaire. Une visa ou Visa Premier pour ceux qui voyagent fréquemment suffit largement.
Olivier
vivre ses rêves....
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After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hey everyone,
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip? I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Thanks! 🙂
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip? I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Thanks! 🙂
Hi there,
I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...
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Thanks, friends, if you’ve got any suggestions.
Hi everyone,
After a stay on Koh Phayam this coming November, I’d like to spend 2 or 3 days on Koh Phra Thong before heading further south.
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After a stay on Koh Phayam this coming November, I’d like to spend 2 or 3 days on Koh Phra Thong before heading further south.
Do you think it’s doable to leave Koh Phayam early enough to catch the 10 AM boat from Khura Buri to Koh Phra Thong? The next one isn’t until 4 PM, which would cost me a whole day.
Thanks
Hi,
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I’m planning a trip to Indonesia, specifically Sulawesi and Java, in September for 10 days. I don’t know this part of the world at all—any advice is welcome! I’ll be traveling solo and would also love tips on meeting other travelers or locals.
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Hello everyone,
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Chiang Dao
Pai
Chiang Rai
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I’d love to hear your advice.
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Hi,
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Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
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Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
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I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
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Hi,
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Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
Hi there,
I’m planning a family trip (my wife and I, both 47, and our two sons, aged 5 and 12) to Malaysia for the last week of June and the first two weeks of July 2027.
We used to love road trips as a couple, then as a trio, but since our second child arrived, we’ve taken a break with "camping village" style trips.
Now feels like the right time to get back to our old habits, while adjusting the pace for the kids.
We’re craving Asia. We’ve been lucky enough to visit Thailand, Indonesia (Bali and Lombok), and Sri Lanka before.
Friends have raved about Malaysia, so we’re definitely tempted.
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hi everyone,
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I don’t want to sleep on the boat—just a day trip would be perfect.
Does anyone know a reliable and friendly provider to recommend?
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Time to hit the road again!
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Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Hello,
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
Hello everyone,
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
Hi everyone,
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
Hi everyone, I’m looking to do a 15-day Muay Thai training course. Any great places to recommend? Thanks
Hi there, I’ll be on vacation in Malaysia in November and plan to spend 5 days in Penang. After that, I’d like to visit some temples and places in Butterworth or nearby, and also explore the city. Since I usually get around on foot, which neighborhood would be best for me—meaning within a 30-minute walk of attractions, street food stalls, bus lines, etc.? Thanks in advance for your help!
Françoise
Hello, it’s been a while since I last asked for your help on this forum—I’ve really missed it! I hope you’re all doing well, whether you're new or returning members.
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
Hi,
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Hi there,
I’ve found so many tips and reviews on this forum, so it’s my turn to contribute a little.
We spent just over two weeks with our family, with the following itinerary:
- Hanoi: 5 days
- Halong Bay: 3 days and 2 nights
- Tam Coc: 3 days
- Mai Chau: 2 days
- Sapa: 3 days
We got around by bike, scooter, Grab, and bus.
Our main accommodations were homestays and hotels in Hanoi.
We visited lots of museums, temples, and neighborhoods in Hanoi.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Sapa with May, a Hmong local, without going through an agency.
A few small regrets: the weather was overcast, and we couldn’t make it to Fansipan, but nothing major 😅. We also couldn’t find transport to get from Sapa to Mu Cang Chai.
Other than that, this trip will stay in our memories for the kindness of the Vietnamese people, the connections we made, the food (street food, homestays...), the coffee 😋, the landscapes, and how easy it was to get around...
Our goal was to take our time and focus only on a small part of northern Vietnam.
If you need any tips or recommendations, don’t hesitate to ask.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there, we’re landing at Hanoi Airport and would like to head straight to Cao Bang without going into Hanoi. Does anyone know if there are buses that go directly from the airport to Cao Bang (especially in the early afternoon)? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!