Bonjour à toutes et tous
j'ai déjà posté à droite à gauche au sujet d'un projet de vacances en moto au Portugal pour début septembre prochain
ayant une question particulière concernant ce projet j'ouvre un topic sur le sujet
j'ai donc pour projet un départ vers le Portugal depuis les environs de Toulon a partir du jeudi 04 septembre matin
la première étape me conduira à Toulouse ou j'ai déjà réservé un hôtel
la seconde ira jusqu'à Burgos en Espagne ou un hôtel est également réservé
la troisième sera à l'entrée du Portugal à Bragance un hôtel est réservé
j'ai lu un peu partout qu'en cette période il vaut mieux réserver les hébergement à l'avance
ce qui me chagrine un peu avec cette option est que le parcours devra etre programmé à l'avance et scrupuleusement respecté
J'aimerais pourtant mieux établir mon circuit au feeling sur place
(j'aime un endroit j'y reste un ou deux jours de plus , à contrario je n'aime pas je repars au plus vite )
j'ai lu que certains loueurs de "chambres chez l'habitant" démarchent eux mêmes les touristes à leur arrivée
quelqu'un a un avis la dessus ?
d'avance merci à toutes et tous 🙂
c'est un système ou des jeunes (en général, mais comme "motard" t'as toutes tes chances) peuvent aller dormir une ou plusieurs nuits chez d'autres jeunes "sur le divan" traduction littérale. ça existe maintenant partout en France et à l'étranger.
mes filles sont parties ainsi, elles se sont fait plein d'ami(e)s partout, car cet accueil est amical, gratuit, à charge de revanche quand l'occasion se présente; très sympa.
il y a des sites internet dédiés à ces contacts et si tu as un téléphone au gout du jour, c'est pays par pays ou ville par ville que trouves ainsi un hébergement.
je te mets ce lien concernant le couchsurfing, conseils du guide du routard, comme perso je n'ai pas fait, (hélas, "quand j'étais jeune" ça n'existait pas 😉 ) je ne peux conseiller un site plutôt qu'un autre. tu trouveras les adresses http des principaux, ainsi que la philosophie de ces échanges.
Bonsoir Aladin 83,
Mon épouse et moi partons cette année visiter le Portugal du 27/04 au 10/05/2014. Ci-après notre itinéraire:
Jour 1: départ de Rognac (13) arrivée St Jean de Luz (685km). Jour 2: St Jean Giron (394km). Jour 3: Giron Braganca (319KM).
Jour 4:Branganca Braga (300km de petites routes). Jour 5: Braga Vila do conde (140 km). Jours 6 et 7: Porto. Jour 8: Porto Guarda. Jour 9: Guarda Coimbra. Jour 10: Coimbra Tomar. Jour 11: Tomar Praia d Ei Rey. Jour 12: remontée en trois jours vers la france en passant par le centre de l'Espagne et passage à la frontière près d'Andorre. Pour répondre à ta question du logement, je réserve uniquement les hôtels que pour les étapes de transition (Jour 1 par exemple) mais en faisant mon roadbook, je me fais une liste de plusieurs hôtels pour chaque étape et nous choisissons celui-ci en arrivant. Ce système permet comme tu le souhaites rester 1 ou 2 jours sur place ou bien de partir. Bonne continuation et bonne future route portugaise. Marc.
c'est un système ou des jeunes (en général, mais comme "motard" t'as toutes tes chances) peuvent aller dormir une ou plusieurs nuits chez d'autres jeunes "sur le divan" traduction littérale. ça existe maintenant partout en France et à l'étranger.
merci Béatrice , je ne me vois pas trop aller m'installer gratuitement chez quelqu'un mais par contre ton lien dans lequel je peux trouver d'autres lien vers des sites qui référencent des chambres chez l'habitant m’intéresse🙂
Bonsoir Aladin 83,
Mon épouse et moi partons cette année visiter le Portugal du 27/04 au 10/05/2014. Ci-après notre itinéraire:
Jour 1: départ de Rognac (13) arrivée St Jean de Luz (685km). Jour 2: St Jean Giron (394km). Jour 3: Giron Braganca (319KM).
Jour 4:Branganca Braga (300km de petites routes). Jour 5: Braga Vila do conde (140 km). Jours 6 et 7: Porto. Jour 8: Porto Guarda. Jour 9: Guarda Coimbra. Jour 10: Coimbra Tomar. Jour 11: Tomar Praia d Ei Rey. Jour 12: remontée en trois jours vers la france en passant par le centre de l'Espagne et passage à la frontière près d'Andorre. Pour répondre à ta question du logement, je réserve uniquement les hôtels que pour les étapes de transition (Jour 1 par exemple) mais en faisant mon roadbook, je me fais une liste de plusieurs hôtels pour chaque étape et nous choisissons celui-ci en arrivant. Ce système permet comme tu le souhaites rester 1 ou 2 jours sur place ou bien de partir. Bonne continuation et bonne future route portugaise. Marc.
merci à toi aussi Marc
voila un programme bien intéressant
j'y retrouve pas mal d'endroits que je veux aller voir
je vois que tu pars bientôt , tu seras donc largement de retour avant mon départ
peut etre pourra t on en reparler à ton retour ?🙂
Bonsoir Aladin 83,
Mon épouse et moi partons cette année visiter le Portugal du 27/04 au 10/05/2014. Ci-après notre itinéraire:
Jour 1: départ de Rognac (13) arrivée St Jean de Luz (685km). Jour 2: St Jean Giron (394km). Jour 3: Giron Braganca (319KM).
Jour 4:Branganca Braga (300km de petites routes). Jour 5: Braga Vila do conde (140 km). Jours 6 et 7: Porto. Jour 8: Porto Guarda. Jour 9: Guarda Coimbra. Jour 10: Coimbra Tomar. Jour 11: Tomar Praia d Ei Rey. Jour 12: remontée en trois jours vers la france en passant par le centre de l'Espagne et passage à la frontière près d'Andorre. Pour répondre à ta question du logement, je réserve uniquement les hôtels que pour les étapes de transition (Jour 1 par exemple) mais en faisant mon roadbook, je me fais une liste de plusieurs hôtels pour chaque étape et nous choisissons celui-ci en arrivant. Ce système permet comme tu le souhaites rester 1 ou 2 jours sur place ou bien de partir. Bonne continuation et bonne future route portugaise. Marc.
bonjour Marc
comme je te l'ai écrit nos projets présentent des similitudes
je suppose que tu t'es inspiré des memes sources que moi ?
Bonjour Aladin,
En effet nous zappons Lisbonnes car j'ai déjà visiter cette ville qui mérite le détour (attention aux pickpockets).
Il est vrai que les itinéraires se ressemblent beaucoup et c'est normal car le Portugal est un petit pays par sa superficie.
re bonjour Marc
j'ai entendu parler de soucis avec les pickpockets à Lisbonne je tacherai d'y faire gaffe
d'autant plus que madame commence déjà à me dire qu'elle voudrait y passer deux jours
à priori j'ai un peu plus de temps que toi sur place je prévois 15 jours au Portugal
contre 15 jours en tout pour toi (sauf erreur de ma part )
je compte en tout cas pour les bons tuyaux (hébergements et autre) à ton retour
j'ai en effet décidé de ne rien réserver à l'avance après Bragance
le projet avance tranquillou départ le jeudi 4 septembre congés posés
toulon toulouse hôtel réservé
toulouse burgos hôtel réservé
burgos bragance hôtel réservé
pour la suite je ne réserve rien afin de ne rien m'imposer et de pouvoir modifier mes balades au feeling
la première balade me conduira à braga
https://mapsengine.google.com/map/edit?mid=z15NIQaOpKu8.kMCdeJFwjSBk
sur ce forum dans un autre topic j'ai trouvé un récap des points d’intérêt par zone géographique avec les descriptifs
ça m'est bien utile pour prévoir mes circuits
madame va se pencher également sur le routard pour peaufiner
voila ou en est le projet
si ceux qui ont déjà fait ont des suggestions je suis à l'écoute (ou plutôt à la lecture 😏)
bonjour Marc
en relisant mes précédents posts je me rends compte qu'un lien que j'ai mis n'est pas bon
quand je parlais du lien concernant tes sources qui ressemblent au mienne j'aurais du poster celui ci
http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6258505;search_string=moto
je te souhaite un excellent we 🙂
bonjour,
en septembre, te prends pas la tête, à moins d' être très strict dans tes choix tu trouveras toujours quelque chose de bien.
bon voyage et bonne route
j' ai fait un topo de 4 pages sur les endroits que nous avons visité.
Nos critères pour le logement en hôtel c' est propreté, lit confortable, amabilité, prix raisonnable.
les particuliers qui te démarchent pour un logement chez l' habitant tu les trouveras surtout à Nazaré en 7 voyages au Portugal, il n' y a que là que nous en avons vus.
merci Jacques
ça me convient ainsi car ça me laisse une certaine liberté de modifier le programme à notre convenance une fois sur place
j'ai donc réservé jusqu'à Bragance et après ce sera au jour le jour 🙂
Si tu compte dormir chez l'habitant passe par Airbnb, j'ai essayé pour la première fois lors de mon séjour à Lisbonne, à la fin du mois de juin et j'ai été agréablement surpris. Les prix sont moins chers que l’hôtel, tu peux louer un appartement entier ou juste une chambre et le dernier avantage c'est que tu es reçu par un local.
hi there! I’m heading to Vietnam with a biker friend for 3 months, starting from Hanoi... the plan is to do the northern loop, return to Hanoi, then head down to Ho Chi Minh City... and probably ride back up through the mountains. We’re leaving in February. Just a little detail—we’re two retirees, both 63, used to riding motorbikes, and we have French and international licenses... we’re looking for good tips and advice since we’re planning to buy 125cc Chinese bikes locally. Thanks to everyone, and happy trails—life is beautiful!
Hey everyone!
New to the forum, but not so new to Asia 😄
I’m Nico, from Switzerland, currently based in Bangkok. I love taking my motorcycle out to get lost in the mountains and small villages of Thailand, Laos, Vietnam, and more. I’ve been roaming around this area for a good fifteen years now, racking up quite a few kilometers—especially in northern Vietnam.
This time, I finally decided to tackle the Mae Hong Son Loop, clockwise. I’d been to Pai several times before, but oddly enough, I’d never done the full loop.
So, I’ll try to give you a little recap here, day by day, with the roads, stops, places worth checking out… and those that didn’t quite blow my mind 😅
I also filmed the trip, so I’ll post the corresponding video at the end of each day if that’s okay. If it’s not allowed here, just let me know, and I’ll remove them without any issue.
DAY 1 — Chiang Mai → Doi Inthanon → Mae Chaem → Khun Yuam
I left Chiang Mai after renting a Honda ADV 160 from Pop Motorbike. Not exactly an Africa Twin, but for what I had planned, it was more than enough.
Quick hotel note: I stayed at the Lanna Thaphae Hotel before leaving. Around 30 € per night, super well-located, and probably one of the most comfortable beds I’ve ever slept in. A crucial detail for any motorcycle road trip, obviously.
The plan for the day was pretty straightforward:
Head toward Doi Inthanon… and see what happens.
Flawless Swiss organization.
First stop along the way at Wachirathan Waterfall. A really nice waterfall, very easy to access, but don’t expect to channel your inner Indiana Jones—it’s crowded, touristy, and swimming isn’t allowed. Still, it’s a pretty stop along the way.
Next, up to Doi Inthanon.
The road climbs steeply, and my little 160cc started to realize that carrying my 80 kg to Thailand’s highest point probably wasn’t part of its youthful dreams. I was maxing out at 34 km/h in some spots.
But it made it. Good little bike.
The summit is nice—the forest is beautiful, and it’s cool—but I have to admit, it didn’t completely wow me. Glad I went, but not necessarily the highlight of the day for me.
Because then comes Route 1192.
And that’s *much* more my thing: small mountain roads, beautiful scenery, hardly any traffic… the kind of road where I usually start taking way too many unnecessary detours just because a little side road “looks fun.”
Stopped in Mae Chaem for a bite to eat, then headed to Khun Yuam to finish the day.
A little over 200 km in total.
Khun Yuam is… quiet.
*Very* quiet. 😅
A cute little market, a couple of cafés/restaurants, and zero chance of ending up in a club until 4 AM. But after a day on the bike, it was perfect.
Stayed at the Mit Khun Yuam Hotel, around 20 € for a small but very decent room.
All in all, a solid first day and a pretty relaxed start to the loop. Part of this leg is mostly about getting out of Chiang Mai and really diving into the mountains, in my opinion.
Because for me, the really interesting stuff starts over the next two days…
And a few slightly questionable route decisions will also make an appearance 😅
If anyone’s planning the Mae Hong Son Loop, feel free to ask your questions—I’d be happy to answer!
I also filmed this first day, so for those who’d rather see the roads and landscapes than read my rambling, here’s Day 1 😊
DAY 1 VIDEO
I’ll post the next part in the coming days with Day 2: Khun Yuam → Mae Surin → Mae Hong Son.
And that’s where it starts getting *really* fun. 😉
That’s all for now! Looking forward to contributing as much as I can to the forum!
I’d like to ride from Mahajanga to Morondava, sticking as close to the coast as possible—using roads and tracks—in September 2026. If you’ve got any suggestions, let me know! 😉
hi
I’m planning a 10-month trip to South America, and I’m looking into options for shipping a motorcycle to Buenos Aires by air or sea. If anyone has any info, thanks in advance!
christian
Hello everyone.
I'm looking for campsites around BOLZANO (South Tyrol) for early September.
I'll be on my motorcycle with a small tent.
I've noticed that some campsites have exorbitant prices.
If you've traveled through the Dolomites by motorcycle or otherwise and camped there, I'd love any tips on places and prices where I can stay for one night or several.
Thanks to all of you, and happy travels.
I’m starting to think about a trip that’s really close to my heart: Algeria by motorcycle, specifically the southern part of the country. It’d be for January 2025, and I’ve got two main questions:
Is it possible for an individual on a motorcycle to travel freely, outside of any organized tour, or does the regulation require some kind of supervision in the Algerian Sahara region?
Is the Hoggar massif accessible by road or by (rideable) tracks?
Beyond the official recommendations, I’m really looking for your firsthand experiences.
Thanks so much for your answers, and sorry if my questions are a bit newbie!
I just realized I’ve been registered on VoyageForum since... March 28, 2012 😊. Yet, I’ve barely participated until now.
August 1, 2026, will mark a somewhat special milestone: 5 years on the road.
We left Switzerland on August 1, 2021 with a simple idea: let chance decide our direction. We placed a bottle of wine on a world map, spun it... and it chose our first destination.
A year later, when we arrived in Morocco, we faced a new choice: continue toward Africa or head to Asia. This time, a tarot card game made the decision. Since then, we’ve tried to keep this journey as open to the unexpected as possible.
Today, that adds up to about 120,000 km, 46 countries, and over 1,800 days on the road—mostly by motorcycle, but also by sailboat, train, bus, hitchhiking, or on foot when adventure calls.
Our guiding thread isn’t just the motorcycle, but service exchanges. Instead of simply passing through countries, we try to stop regularly to lend a hand to the people we meet. So far, that’s about 600 days of volunteering.
Over the years, we’ve:
renovated a house in Croatia
made earth bricks in the Moroccan desert
helped sail a boat through the Greek islands
looked after houses, dogs, horses, a camel... and lots of other animals
worked at a street art festival in Morocco
created videos for local associations and projects
worked the grape harvest on the Tibetan plateau
been accredited as "media" for the World Nomad Games in Central Asia
Some of the moments that have stuck with us the most include six months in China, a night spent on the Great Wall, the Pamir Highway, the Silk Road, three months in Taiwan, and the incredible encounters in the mountains of Central Asia.
We travel on Falkor, our lucky dragon—a 2014 BMW F800GS that’s been with us since the start and is starting to have some great stories of its own.
While we share our adventure on Instagram, Polarsteps, and YouTube, that’s not why we’re here. The forum’s rules about promotion are clear, and I totally get them. If I’m finally taking the time to write, it’s mostly because after five years on the road, I thought our experience might be useful to other travelers.
Happy to chat about:
preparing for a long motorcycle trip
visas and borders
the Silk Road and Central Asia
riding in China (with or without a motorcycle)
volunteering and service exchanges while traveling
gear, daily life on the road... or just the unexpected moments that make long-term travel so special
Looking forward to swapping stories and hearing about your adventures too! 😊 Greetings from Thailand, and happy to chat! ✌️
Hello, I’m retired and planning a roughly 3-week motorcycle trip (1200gs). The dates aren’t set in stone yet, and everything’s open to discussion—I’m pretty flexible with the planning.
hi
planning to ride through Rajasthan on a motorcycle in January 2027 and I’d love to hear about the road conditions.
I’ll be riding with a buddy on a Royal Enfield that I’ll rent in Delhi.
Thanks for your tips!
hi there
I’d like to ride the RN 12 by motorcycle in September.
I’d love to know the main challenges—I ride a 300cc and do enduro in France.
Thanks for your tips!
I’m planning a motorcycle road trip to Armenia and Georgia in September 2026 or May 2027. I’m looking for one or more riders (male or female) who’d like to explore these countries with me.
Along the way, we’ll visit Cappadocia, the capitals Yerevan, Tbilisi, Sofia, Skopje, and other cities—we can finalize the route and roadbook later.
This trip requires experience with long motorcycle journeys, as we’ll cover around 7,000 km over 5 or 6 weeks (or more, depending on sightseeing and time spent).
I don’t expect dozens of applicants, since motorcycle riders are few and far between on this forum, but I’m putting this out there anyway.
Hi, I’d like to take a 15-day "break" to get away from the surrounding hustle and bustle.
Why not explore the Peloponnese!
I’m not particularly drawn to museums, ruins, or monuments.
I want to experience local life—small villages, seaside spots, beaches, and the interior if the landscapes are extraordinary.
Ideally, coming from Athens, I’d take a bus or train to get as close as possible to a starting point, then rent a scooter (125cc) to explore by taking secondary roads or even coastal paths. I’d stay in 2-3 places for a few days each to discover their surroundings.
Do a loop.
What do you think would be the ideal itinerary?
From Athens, the best option would be to take either a flight or a bus to Kalamata. Rent a scooter and head either west or east. Is there a tertiary road (very lightly trafficked) or a path where I can ride slowly, take it easy, and enjoy the scenery without being bothered by traffic? I’d like to go all the way to Monemvasia, still hugging the coast. I need to find a way to avoid returning to Kalamata to drop off the scooter and catch a flight—maybe a small town where the train stops so I can head back to Athens.
Thanks in advance for your tips.
I want to rent an off-road style motorcycle to get around the coast during my trip to Ecuador. I’m only finding options in Quito. Do you have any suggestions for me?
Hi there,
I’m planning a sidecar trip to South America for 4 or 5 months at the end of this year.
I’m looking for info on shipping my vehicle by sea—possibly to Uruguay or another destination, as I haven’t finalized anything yet.
How do you get visas for the countries I’ll be crossing: Uruguay, Argentina, Bolivia, Peru, and Chile? Are they e-Visas, obtained at the border, or through embassies?
Where can I get vehicle insurance?
Lastly, if any bikers want to join us (my partner and me), we’re open to that possibility too.
Patrick
I’ve got 15 days off in June and I’m pretty undecided about where to go for a motorcycle road trip. Two strong desires are pulling me in different directions: Corsica or Norway.
Corsica has been a dream of mine for a long time: legendary roads, stunning landscapes, a unique vibe, and the perfect mix of sea and mountains. At the same time, I’m wondering if 2 weeks might be *too much* for Corsica—risking feeling like I’ve seen it all too quickly, especially on a bike.
Since I also have an extra week free in May, I could use that specifically for Corsica. Maybe splitting it into two trips would make more sense? If so, which routes or regions would be the most interesting to plan for a 7-day trip?
On the other hand, Norway is *super* appealing. The landscapes look incredible, totally different from anything I’ve experienced, and it’d be a real “wow” trip. I know 15 days is still short for such a vast country. Getting all the way to the North Cape seems pretty much impossible in that time, but I’m curious about what realistic routes could be planned.
So I’m wondering:
Is it better to save Norway for next year, take 3 weeks off, and do it *properly*?
Or are 15 days enough for a first amazing taste of the country?
I’d love to hear about your experiences—whether it’s Corsica (ideal duration, routes) or Norway (what’s realistic in 2 weeks on a bike).
Thanks in advance for your thoughts!
Hello,
I'm thinking of buying a used small motorcycle to travel around the country for a month and a half.
I've done this in other countries without putting the registration in my name—is that possible in Guinea given the apparently frequent checks, or do I have to go through the paperwork?
Thanks.
Hello,
My dream is to ride Route 66 by motorcycle. I have a disability—while I’m not in a wheelchair, my walking mobility is reduced.
The ideal scenario would be to have a motorcycle driver and ride as their passenger on an organized trip.
Are there any guides or services like this offered by travel agencies?
Thanks for sharing your experiences!
Hello,
I’ve got a plan with a friend to go on a motorcycle road trip in 2028 or 2029, starting in Santiago de Chile and ending in Ushuaia, for about a month.
Has anyone done a trip like this before, and what’s the best time of year?
I’ve heard there can be quite a bit of wind depending on the season.
Thanks for any tips!
Cheers,
PA
I'm seriously considering heading to Nepal to do some nice motorcycle loops... my goal is also to do the Kailash Yatra round trip from Kathmandu, in a small group with a guide, in May '26... but here's the thing—I'm solo! So if you're up for sharing a similar adventure, hit me up... Cheers, Frankoys
It's all in the title: I'm heading to Krabi soon and want to rent a scooter for a few weeks, but after reading comments about all kinds of scams, I'm reaching out to ask where and how (read: *the right way*) to rent one.
Thanks for your tips and advice.
Hello everyone! Like every year, a winter migration is on the horizon (revised plan): this time, it’ll be Dakar, or even Abidjan, via Morocco, Mauritania, and Senegal.
Looking for an experienced motorcyclist or pillion rider—small build preferred—on a GSA 1250 with a comfy seat and luggage setup, available from early November to late December 2025. I’d like to plan the trip together (important to me) to make sure we’re on the same wavelength.
Don’t hesitate to get in touch!
Didier
Looking for travel companions to ride from France to Senegal by motorcycle.
I’m Paul, 37, and I’ve already done a bit of riding in Morocco.
For now, I’m solo, riding a 1998 SUZUKI DR 650 with some basic gear to keep things smooth. I’ll have a tent so we can do a few nights under the stars.
We’ll need to coordinate departure dates—"ideally in November."
I’m currently checking out routes to take. Any tips would be welcome! :)
I’m heading to Vietnam and Laos with a buddy next week for a month.
We’re thinking of renting motorbikes, especially to do the Ha Giang Loop. We don’t have an international license, just our Belgian one. Is that enough? If not, is it risky?
In November, we’re planning to do the Ha Giang loop and the RC4 by motorbike without a guide. 😎
We’re looking for a decent place to stay/rent in Ha Giang.
If anyone has any info, we’d be really interested.
Hello! We’re planning a motorcycle trip that will include a visit to Auschwitz-Birkenau in June 2026.
We’re unsure (still debating) whether we should stay at a hotel on-site and get to the memorial with an Uber (leaving our bikes at the hotel) and book a guided tour, or base ourselves in Kraków and take a tour that includes transport.
One thing’s for sure—we’d prefer a guide in French since we don’t speak English 😅.
Could you share your experiences or advice?
I understand we need to book online rather than on-site.
Thanks in advance for your replies!