Internet haut débit en Asie du Sud-Est?
by Bernardmjl
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
je vais faire construire une maison dans le village de mon épouse.
Seulement voilà, l'internet adsl n'arrive pas jusque là
Existe-t-il d'autres systèmes de reception internet haut débit (par exemple par satellite)
Renseigne-toi sur l'Internet par la prise électrique (courant porteur en ligne / CPL).
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Le CPL ne passe plus dès qu'il y a un transformateur (passage de haute tension en basse tension dans chaque village). Mais peut-etre que cela a changé?
Satellite: c'est cher, il faut une station, VSAT, assez puissante pour monter au satellite, une grande parabole et un abonnement chez un opérateur qui fait ca, et comme la ressource est rare, il faut payer. Cherche avec le mot clé 'VSAT' si tu veux te documenter. On touve des offres émission et reception (donc VSAT) pour 160$/mois. Une autre offre a 45$/mois: reception haut débit par satellite (comme la TV), émission par classique dialup téléphonique bas débit. Le mieux est de partager; a la limite la belle-famille pourrait ouvrir un cyber café avec la bande passante que tu n'utilise pas.
GSM : il y a aussi le GPRS et l'EDGE par les classiques téléphones mobiles. Si ces technologies sont implémentées dans la région, cela peut accélérer la communication, a condition d'avoir un téléphone portable qui fonctionne avec ces technologies et une interface qui convient (carte PCMCIA, cable USB).
CDMA une autre technologie de téléphonie mobile a haut débit mais qui ne couvrait que Bangkok il y a quelques années. Aux dernieres nouvelles, ce serait un échec commercial.
WiMax c'est encore expérimental mais permettrait de couvrir dans un rayon de 10 a 50 km autour des relais (ne pas confondre avec WiFi, 50 metres de portée). 400$ le recepteur. Pas entendu parlé de ca en Thailande.
sous louer une ligne spécialisée d'entreprise. Tout a fait incertain, pour raisons administratives (sécurité, revente sans licence d'ISP). A supposer qu'il y en ait dans ton village. Notes - liens operateurs VSAT internet IPstar (par le Thaicom4), Samart: http://www.samtel.com/english/main/view.php?group=3&id=14 http://www.isatasia.com/country/thailand/ (par AsiaSat 2) http://www.thaicom.net/pages/product_services.aspx http://www.csloxinfo.com/broadband/ipstar4_ennon.asp (a partir de 2500 Bahts/128kbits/s)
Satellite: c'est cher, il faut une station, VSAT, assez puissante pour monter au satellite, une grande parabole et un abonnement chez un opérateur qui fait ca, et comme la ressource est rare, il faut payer. Cherche avec le mot clé 'VSAT' si tu veux te documenter. On touve des offres émission et reception (donc VSAT) pour 160$/mois. Une autre offre a 45$/mois: reception haut débit par satellite (comme la TV), émission par classique dialup téléphonique bas débit. Le mieux est de partager; a la limite la belle-famille pourrait ouvrir un cyber café avec la bande passante que tu n'utilise pas.
GSM : il y a aussi le GPRS et l'EDGE par les classiques téléphones mobiles. Si ces technologies sont implémentées dans la région, cela peut accélérer la communication, a condition d'avoir un téléphone portable qui fonctionne avec ces technologies et une interface qui convient (carte PCMCIA, cable USB).
CDMA une autre technologie de téléphonie mobile a haut débit mais qui ne couvrait que Bangkok il y a quelques années. Aux dernieres nouvelles, ce serait un échec commercial.
WiMax c'est encore expérimental mais permettrait de couvrir dans un rayon de 10 a 50 km autour des relais (ne pas confondre avec WiFi, 50 metres de portée). 400$ le recepteur. Pas entendu parlé de ca en Thailande.
sous louer une ligne spécialisée d'entreprise. Tout a fait incertain, pour raisons administratives (sécurité, revente sans licence d'ISP). A supposer qu'il y en ait dans ton village. Notes - liens operateurs VSAT internet IPstar (par le Thaicom4), Samart: http://www.samtel.com/english/main/view.php?group=3&id=14 http://www.isatasia.com/country/thailand/ (par AsiaSat 2) http://www.thaicom.net/pages/product_services.aspx http://www.csloxinfo.com/broadband/ipstar4_ennon.asp (a partir de 2500 Bahts/128kbits/s)
Faux pour le CPL : C'est uniquement a l'interieur d'une maison ou d'un appart. Ca marche tres bien -en tout cas bien mieux que le wifi 🙁 (le bordel pour installer un reseau en wifi 🙁🙁🙁) (Pas de micro onde- pas de TV, pas d'alarme etc ... ca peut perturber le reseau...) En plus tu capte le reseau du voisin et reciproquement... Si tu es dans une grande ville OUBLIE !!!! Prefere les cables ethernet droit jusqu'a 90m sans perte de synchronisation 😉 Pas de probleme de piratage du reseau et de ton ordi 😉 (Si plus de 90m mettre un amplificateur de signal.) (En gro0s
mai pen rai krap
j'ecrit sur clavier américain désolé pour les accents...
merci pour les infos, je vais essayer de trouver mon bonheur dans tout ça mais ce n'est pas évident
" Faux pour le CPL : C'est uniquement a l'interieur d'une maison ou d'un appart"--
Détrompes toi Noe cela est possible.
Ce dont tu parles est l'utilisation "indoor" (ou reseau local) de cette technologie. Celle dont je parle est l'utilisation "outdoor" (ou accès haut débit) de cette technologie. Qui a été prevu pour relier toutes les zones non couvertes par les FAI Adsl (utilisé surtout au Etats-Unis).
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Ce dont tu parles est l'utilisation "indoor" (ou reseau local) de cette technologie. Celle dont je parle est l'utilisation "outdoor" (ou accès haut débit) de cette technologie. Qui a été prevu pour relier toutes les zones non couvertes par les FAI Adsl (utilisé surtout au Etats-Unis).
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Ha ? Je n'ai jamais entendu parler de cette technologie (quel est son nom ?). Il va falloir que je me renseigne. Si le signal passe sans trop de pertes sur les lignes hautes tensions c'est franchement genial. (le outdoor passe uniquement sur du courant de moyennefaible tension puisqu'il est code sur le signal electrique en haute frequence grosso-modo). CPL un article correct de Wikipedia.
C'est plus cher mais ca marche bien mieux que le wifi pour un reseau domestique. Desole de cet aparte hors sujet pour un forum sur le voyage...😛😛😛 C'est du voyage interieur : dans la maison...ou le quartier...😉😉
C'est plus cher mais ca marche bien mieux que le wifi pour un reseau domestique. Desole de cet aparte hors sujet pour un forum sur le voyage...😛😛😛 C'est du voyage interieur : dans la maison...ou le quartier...😉😉
mai pen rai krap
j'ecrit sur clavier américain désolé pour les accents...
Quant au WIFI, c'es très fiable et ça reste le plus simple à installer. De plus avec le WIFI MIMO la perte de signal est presque inexistante maintenant.
Sinon pour notre ami et bien la meilleur solution est internet par le GSM, mais le débit sera loin d'un débit ADSL. Cela dit dans un endroit où il n'y a pas d'ADSL je ne vois guère d'autre solution. Il reste le bon vieux modem 56k qui passe par la ligne téléphonique. Ca suffit amplement pour surfer sur le net, mais pas question de télécharger.
Résumé : GSM, ou modem 56k.
Sinon pour notre ami et bien la meilleur solution est internet par le GSM, mais le débit sera loin d'un débit ADSL. Cela dit dans un endroit où il n'y a pas d'ADSL je ne vois guère d'autre solution. Il reste le bon vieux modem 56k qui passe par la ligne téléphonique. Ca suffit amplement pour surfer sur le net, mais pas question de télécharger.
Résumé : GSM, ou modem 56k.
c'est du voyage interieur : dans la maison...ou le quartier...😉😉 "
😏😏😏
Dans ce cas là, le moderateur ne nous en voudra pas trop 😉 .
😏😏😏
Dans ce cas là, le moderateur ne nous en voudra pas trop 😉 .
Bonjour Noe
existe t il des solutions lorsque il n'y a pas d'electricite ? Un compresseur peut il suffire ? ... a+
existe t il des solutions lorsque il n'y a pas d'electricite ? Un compresseur peut il suffire ? ... a+
Roger
Tu devrais poser cette question à EDEV qui lui se pose des questions sur des villages sans électricité au Vietnam, mais je pense qu'il a la réponse à ta question:
http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=945504;
Il y a quelques mois, me promenant dans le parc national de Sai Yok, je suis tombé sur une paillotte branchée en électricité sur un panneau solaire; la maison étant fermée, je ne sais pas ce que ce panneau solaire alimentait; la TV peut-être?

http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=945504;
Il y a quelques mois, me promenant dans le parc national de Sai Yok, je suis tombé sur une paillotte branchée en électricité sur un panneau solaire; la maison étant fermée, je ne sais pas ce que ce panneau solaire alimentait; la TV peut-être?

Le sage supporte aequo animo les coups de l'adversite
Oui, merci !Je pense qu'il regardera ce post... Sur ta photo on ne voit pas d'antenne de tele par contre il y a un tout petit compresseur qui doit prendre le relais du panneau lui aussi "petit", je penserai putot à l'alimentation en continu d'un petit frigidaire pour conserver des "serum" ou des medicaments! juste une hypothese...
Roger
Eh, je suis dans ton cas... dans l'Issan, à 25 km d'Udon ! J'alterne en fonction des moments de la journée entre l'accès téléphonique - si la ligne n'est pas trop distante de la prochaine centrale (aux environs de 30 - 40 kbits/s) et l'accès par téléphonique mobile (annoncé à 115 kbits/s - tout à fait théorique). Il faut t'armer de patience et oublier les téléchargements ! Tu peux acheter chez un concessionnaire d'operateur (par exemple AIS - One 2 Call) un module Solomon GPRS qui se branche sur un port USB de ton ordinateur. Il y a une carte SIM que tu peux recharger; les coûts à la minute sont insignifiants.
Plein succès.
🤪
Diogène
« "Les mathématiciens étudient le soleil et la lune et oublient ce qu'ils ont sous les pieds"»
« "Les mathématiciens étudient le soleil et la lune et oublient ce qu'ils ont sous les pieds"»
Je n'ai pas vu ta question avant. Desole.
Si pas de FAI, alors pas de diffusion des donnees internet depuis le materiel du FAI sur les lignes electriques proches ou les lignes telephoniques. Il est necessaire que le FAI ai une autentification de l'ordinateur qui demande pour envoyer ecevoir les donnees.
Un panneau solaire n'est pas suffisant. Comment parviendrait le signal depuis le soleil ? 😉😉
Pas d'electricite par cable et pas de telephone alors le satelite. Mais de l'electricite indispensable toujours (au moins pour le PC et l'antenne 😉😉😉). Mais c'est cher...🙁
Si pas de FAI, alors pas de diffusion des donnees internet depuis le materiel du FAI sur les lignes electriques proches ou les lignes telephoniques. Il est necessaire que le FAI ai une autentification de l'ordinateur qui demande pour envoyer ecevoir les donnees.
Un panneau solaire n'est pas suffisant. Comment parviendrait le signal depuis le soleil ? 😉😉
Pas d'electricite par cable et pas de telephone alors le satelite. Mais de l'electricite indispensable toujours (au moins pour le PC et l'antenne 😉😉😉). Mais c'est cher...🙁
mai pen rai krap
j'ecrit sur clavier américain désolé pour les accents...
pour le CPL en "outdoor" je doute qu il soit propose en thailande.
un peu de culture... http://www.cpl-france.org/
sinon, le wifi...c est tres simple avec un MAC...enfin un APPLE 😉
un peu de culture... http://www.cpl-france.org/
sinon, le wifi...c est tres simple avec un MAC...enfin un APPLE 😉
Merci de ta reponse Noe .A bientot sur un autre post.Cordialement
Roger
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Hi. Is it possible to take the train from Malacca to Ipoh? Thanks for your feedback.
Hi there,
We’re heading to Vietnam as a family on July 8th for a little over 3 weeks (north and center). We’ve only booked the first 3 nights in Hanoi, and nothing else after that. We like to decide things on the spot and go with the flow, without rushing everywhere. But I’m still a bit unsure: when heading down to the center (Hue), is it better to book the overnight trains in advance? We don’t want to take any flights while we’re there—just use the overnight train for the long trips. But I’m worried we won’t get seats if we buy the tickets on the spot, say, 2 days before. What do the experts here think? And which website can we use to book the tickets? Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hi everyone!
I’m heading back to Thailand in July 2026 with a stopover in Cambodia to visit the Angkor site.
After Angkor, I’ve booked a stay on Ko Chang island. Does anyone know if there are direct transport options from Cambodia to Ko Chang without having to go back through Bangkok? That would be amazing!!
I think there are, but I’d need more details!!
I went to Thailand in February 2025 and don’t remember having to apply for a visa—is that still the case now? And for Cambodia too?
Thanks so much!!!
Laurence from Bayonne
hi
I’ll be on a cruise on January 11, 2027. We’re stopping in Ho Chi Minh City (Phu My).
I’d love to see something other than the city—anyone have recommendations or a guide for 6-8 people with pickup at the port?
I’d really like to visit some rice paddies.
I’ll be on a cruise on January 11, 2027. We’re stopping in Ho Chi Minh City (Phu My).
I’d love to see something other than the city—anyone have recommendations or a guide for 6-8 people with pickup at the port?
I’d really like to visit some rice paddies.
Hi there,
I’m spending 4 days in Kuala Lumpur.
Could you let me know what’s absolutely worth visiting and what’s not really worth the effort?
Any suggested itinerary?
Apart from Batu Caves, I don’t have many ideas...
I’m traveling with my partner and our 16-year-old son.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
I’m spending 4 days in Kuala Lumpur.
Could you let me know what’s absolutely worth visiting and what’s not really worth the effort?
Any suggested itinerary?
Apart from Batu Caves, I don’t have many ideas...
I’m traveling with my partner and our 16-year-old son.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Hi,
After our trip to China, we want to spend a week in the Philippines for some beach time and snorkeling.
We're looking for the best spot to settle in—nice beaches, great marine life, and short transfer times.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Hi there,
Does anyone know of a private transfer or taxi company that organizes transfers from the Sukhothai area to Chiang Mai? Our routes are Sukhothai-Lampang, Lampang-Chom Thong, and Chom Thong-Chiang Mai. My searches on Google Maps, 12Go, and others haven’t turned up much...
For our Bangkok-Sukhothai trips, I use a company I’ve already tried, but they don’t have a fleet available from Sukhothai and have to go through third-party companies—which, understandably, take their commission. This nearly doubles the prices...
There are four of us, and we’re not traveling light, so a minibus isn’t an option. ;-)
Thanks for your tips! DrSnuggle
Does anyone know of a private transfer or taxi company that organizes transfers from the Sukhothai area to Chiang Mai? Our routes are Sukhothai-Lampang, Lampang-Chom Thong, and Chom Thong-Chiang Mai. My searches on Google Maps, 12Go, and others haven’t turned up much...
For our Bangkok-Sukhothai trips, I use a company I’ve already tried, but they don’t have a fleet available from Sukhothai and have to go through third-party companies—which, understandably, take their commission. This nearly doubles the prices...
There are four of us, and we’re not traveling light, so a minibus isn’t an option. ;-)
Thanks for your tips! DrSnuggle
Hello,
While traveling in Thailand, I’m looking for a Buddhist kumlai reed bracelet.
Does anyone know where I can find one?
In Bangkok, I visited a few temples but didn’t see any in the nearby shops.
If you have any ideas, I’d love to hear them! Have a great day! :-)
Hi there
My trip’s coming up, and I’m having a bit of trouble with three bus/minivan routes. Usually, I find everything at this time of year, but this time—yikes!
Sandakan → Sepilok: No app for this one—you just hop on bus #14 at the local terminal (pay cash on board). But where do I catch it, and where’s the stop??
Sandakan → Semporna: From what I’ve heard, it’s the Sida Express company (great name, right? 😄). Can’t book online, but apparently, you *have* to because there’s only one bus at 8 AM. Where do I board, and where does it drop me off?
Semporna → Tawau: Found this via AI—is it legit? No online booking, as far as I can tell. Minivans leave from a stop in the Jalan Hospital area, near the Milimewa supermarket, supposedly???? And when you arrive, does it drop you at **Sabindo Square** in Tawau?????
Thanks for any tips—I’m stuck!
My trip’s coming up, and I’m having a bit of trouble with three bus/minivan routes. Usually, I find everything at this time of year, but this time—yikes!
Sandakan → Sepilok: No app for this one—you just hop on bus #14 at the local terminal (pay cash on board). But where do I catch it, and where’s the stop??
Sandakan → Semporna: From what I’ve heard, it’s the Sida Express company (great name, right? 😄). Can’t book online, but apparently, you *have* to because there’s only one bus at 8 AM. Where do I board, and where does it drop me off?
Semporna → Tawau: Found this via AI—is it legit? No online booking, as far as I can tell. Minivans leave from a stop in the Jalan Hospital area, near the Milimewa supermarket, supposedly???? And when you arrive, does it drop you at **Sabindo Square** in Tawau?????
Thanks for any tips—I’m stuck!
Hi there,
we’ll be in Mai Chau in June and we’re thinking of heading to Sapa, but first spending a few days in Bac Ha to do some hiking and explore the area.
Is this a good idea for those who’ve been there?
How do you get there?
Thanks for your feedback.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there,
I’m planning an itinerary and would love some feedback on whether it’s doable and if the number of days per destination is enough—or too much. I was also debating whether to add an extra night on an island or spend an extra night in Kampot to visit Kep or Battambang.
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning March 24: Phnom Penh March 25: Phnom Penh March 26: Depart for Kampot March 27: Kampot March 28: Depart for Battambang March 29: Battambang March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap March 31: Siem Reap April 1: Siem Reap April 2: Siem Reap April 3: Siem Reap April 4: Siem Reap April 5: Departure
Thanks for any suggestions or help!
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning March 24: Phnom Penh March 25: Phnom Penh March 26: Depart for Kampot March 27: Kampot March 28: Depart for Battambang March 29: Battambang March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap March 31: Siem Reap April 1: Siem Reap April 2: Siem Reap April 3: Siem Reap April 4: Siem Reap April 5: Departure
Thanks for any suggestions or help!