Itinéraire Icht - Akka - Tissint - Foum Zguid - Zagora
by Loredanaa
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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bonjour, nous sommes un couple avec 3 ados et faisons une boucle sur 2 semaines en fin d'année via Marrakech-Essouira-Agadir-Tifnit- Borj Biramane (Icht-Akka-Tissint-Foum Zguit) -Zagora, Ourzazate, Boulmane Dades-Marrakech.
J'aimerais offrir à nos ados une étape "bivouc-desert" de 2 nuits sur l'axe Icht-Tissint-Foum Zguit et éviter de le faire dans la région Zagora-Mhamid qui est très touristique dans cette période de l'année.
J'apprécierais un conseil éclairé et désintéressé car je veux éviter à tout prix de nous retrouver sur des dromadaires la queue leu leu....
J'apprécierais aussi des conseil sur des attractions sur l'axe Icht-Akka-Tissint-Foum Zguit-Zagora.
Merci, beaucoup
Faites des recherches du côté de Foum Zguig et du lac Iriki , il me semble qu'il y a un campement qui convient à votre demande , il y en a aussi un du côté de Tissint dans un canyon .
Apres que voulez vous dire en parlant d'"attractions" sur le trajet Icht Zagora ? Je ne comprends pas bien votre question .
Hannah
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Bonjour
À Icht la visite guidée du village peut être intéressante. SI vous dormez au Borg Biramane demandez au proprio. De plus l' endroit est beau et les chambrrs aussi) Il y a dans le coin des gravures rupestres. Comme à Akka. A Tissint il y a une maison où à séjourné Charles de Foucault. A Foum Zguid, petite ville vivante, si vous allez au Bab Rimal (Auberge-Hôtel à l exterieur de la ville sur la route de Zagora, situés dans un beau cadre arboré avec piscine ) on vous indiquera les balades à faire.
À Icht la visite guidée du village peut être intéressante. SI vous dormez au Borg Biramane demandez au proprio. De plus l' endroit est beau et les chambrrs aussi) Il y a dans le coin des gravures rupestres. Comme à Akka. A Tissint il y a une maison où à séjourné Charles de Foucault. A Foum Zguid, petite ville vivante, si vous allez au Bab Rimal (Auberge-Hôtel à l exterieur de la ville sur la route de Zagora, situés dans un beau cadre arboré avec piscine ) on vous indiquera les balades à faire.
C'est vrai que ce n'est pas une destination privilégié par les TO et j'oserais dire heureusement.
Aoreora vous a donné quelques pistes intéressantes .J'ajouterais une excursion vers le lac Iriki pour les splendides paysages .A Tissint un petit souk vraiment " dans son jus" , je crois que c'est le vendredi .
Du côté de Tata il y a des oasis avec notamment le mellah de Tazart , totalement en ruine , mais splendide. d'autres mellah sont à découvrir dans ces coins mais il faut etre opiniâtres car on ne trouve pas d'indications .
Je vais mettre en ligne un carnet de voyage dans la semaine , avec des photos de la région Foum Zguig , Tissint , Tata .
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Et toi près de Tata le clypsedre.
Bonnes attractions!
De quoi veux tu parler , je ne connais pas et ca m'intéresse bien sur . La fontaine de Tata peut être ?
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Bien sûr que tu ne connais pas!! C' est clepsydre et non l' inverse !
C' est l' horloge à eau. Systeme intéressant pour l' arrosage des jardins.
A Tighmert au musée d'Abdou il y en a une aussi.
C'est de celle la dont tu parle ? Peut tu me la situer . Au nord , au sud de la palmeraie ?
....." Horloge à eau ou Clepsydre:
A proximité de Tata et de sa grande Palmeraie, « une horloge à eau » ou Clepsydre, encore utilisée à ce jour pour la répartition des durées d'attribution de l'eau dans la palmeraie vivrière à travers des canaux (Seguias)......
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Oui. Un peu avant Tata en venant de Foum Zguid.Il y a un village et une palmeraie. Nous avons un peu cherché. Elle n ' est pas en bord de route.
Merci pour l'info , ce sera pour la prochaine fois , certainement en Mai .
De fait apres avoir fait plusieurs voyages et ce depuis de nombreuses années, je me sent bien dans ce grand sud , de Foum Zguig en passant par Tata , Tiznit Guelminn et Tafraout la belle .
De fait apres avoir fait plusieurs voyages et ce depuis de nombreuses années, je me sent bien dans ce grand sud , de Foum Zguig en passant par Tata , Tiznit Guelminn et Tafraout la belle .
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merci beaucoup pour toutes ces infos Hannah!!
Je n'ai pas encore trouvé une adresse me permettant de faire un bivouac dans le désert (mes jeunes ne me pardonneront jamais si nous ne faisons pas ça). Il y a des montagnes d'adresses à Mahmid et Merzouga mais peu d'infos entre Akka et Foum Zguid...J'ai regardé autour du lac Iriki aussi.
bien cordialement,
Je n'ai pas encore trouvé une adresse me permettant de faire un bivouac dans le désert (mes jeunes ne me pardonneront jamais si nous ne faisons pas ça). Il y a des montagnes d'adresses à Mahmid et Merzouga mais peu d'infos entre Akka et Foum Zguid...J'ai regardé autour du lac Iriki aussi.
bien cordialement,
Bonsoir .
A Merzouga tu as l'embarras du choix pour passer 1 ou 2 nuit allez on va dire désert , disons dans l'Erg Chebbi . Que les lieux où tu peux résider et qui organisent des nuits sous les étoiles s'appellent bivouac, hôtel, auberge . Tous sont au pied de l'Erg , entre autre http://www.auberge-merzouga.com/spip.php?rubrique3 chez l'ami Lahcen , plusieurs autres de part et d'autre.
Pour te donner envie :

Amicalement , Bernard_Bayle
A Merzouga tu as l'embarras du choix pour passer 1 ou 2 nuit allez on va dire désert , disons dans l'Erg Chebbi . Que les lieux où tu peux résider et qui organisent des nuits sous les étoiles s'appellent bivouac, hôtel, auberge . Tous sont au pied de l'Erg , entre autre http://www.auberge-merzouga.com/spip.php?rubrique3 chez l'ami Lahcen , plusieurs autres de part et d'autre.
Pour te donner envie :

Amicalement , Bernard_Bayle
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Justement nous ne voulons aller ni autour de Mahmid, ni autour de Merzouga car nos vacances tombent juste dans le pic de la saison touristique.
C'est la raison pour laquelle nous faisons l'axe Icht-Akka-Tissint-Foum Zguid pour essayer de sortir des grandes routes touristiques. Du coup c'est plus difficile de trouver l'info.
Merci quand même!
Si tu veux uniquement sables et dunes tu n'auras que M'hamid et Merzouga .
A Tissint entre sable et montagne , lieu superbe tu auras ceci , je n'ai pas essayé mais je connais les paysages :
http://www.cans-akkanaitsidi.net/
A M'hamid tu peux contacter Sahara.emotion .
A ne pas oublier , en hiver la nuit tombe vite et il fait froid dans le desert , à mon avis une nuit suffit .
Autre conseil , ne te fais pas vendre les dunes de Tindouf entre Zagora et M'hamid . Bivouac près de la route dune plus petites que celle du pyla 😉
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Re....
<< Justement nous ne voulons aller ni autour de Mahmid, ni autour de Merzouga car nos vacances tombent juste dans le pic de la saison touristique. >>
Dans le coin de Merzouga, c'est plus de janv à avril qu'il y a éventuellement plus de monde
cela dit , j'y étais en ce début d'année 2016 , peu de monde dans le sud .
Je pensai que tu cherchais un désert de sable , bonne recherche
Bernard_Bayle
Je pensai que tu cherchais un désert de sable , bonne recherche
Bernard_Bayle
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Oui. Un peu avant Tata en venant de Foum Zguid.Il y a un village et une palmeraie. Nous avons un peu cherché. Elle n ' est pas en bord de route.
bonjour votre info m’intéresse grandement je cherche justement à découvrir ce type de lieux ou sites auriez vous quand même plus de précisions ou un repère à me donner ? merci ++
bonjour votre info m’intéresse grandement je cherche justement à découvrir ce type de lieux ou sites auriez vous quand même plus de précisions ou un repère à me donner ? merci ++
capucine
merci pour ces infos. Je suis un peu confuse car des amis m'ont dit que entre Noel et Nouvel An c'était les dromadaires à la queue leu leu autour de M'hamid et Merzouga....
Bien sure nous préférerions le désert!
Bref, idéalement nous cherchons un bivouac un peu authentique entre Icht et Foum Zguid. Y-at'il un "peu de désert" et un bivouac au sud de Akka -Tata-Tissint??? Le campement d'Akka-Nait-Sidi ne m'inspire pas trop trop. merci!
Bref, idéalement nous cherchons un bivouac un peu authentique entre Icht et Foum Zguid. Y-at'il un "peu de désert" et un bivouac au sud de Akka -Tata-Tissint??? Le campement d'Akka-Nait-Sidi ne m'inspire pas trop trop. merci!
Oui à Taidelt ( ou Tidelt c est selon)
Mais c ' est un peu plus vers l' ouest plus vers le Sahara.
Bonjour
Je suis passée il y a environ 3 semaines..cette horloge ne fonctionne plus...dommage...
"N'ayez pas peur de la vie. N'ayez jamais peur de l'aventure. Faites confiance au hasard, à la chance, à la destinée. Partez, allez conquérir d'autres espaces, d'autres espérances. Le reste vous sera donné de surcroît"
Henry de Monfreid - trilogie de la Mer Rouge.
Dommage.
Un exemplaire à Tighmert existe.
Bonjour,
Je me mets à votre place et j'ai bien compris ce que vous ne souhaitez pas. C'est exactement ce que je ne voudrais pas pour moi-même.
Je suis un professionnel du tourisme au Maroc, mais avant tout un passionné. Je vais veiller, pour ne pas être censuré à rester neutre et anonyme. Je pense surtout être connaisseur et c'est à ce titre que je vous réponds.
Comme le dit fort justement l'un des participants à ce forum, on ne trouve pas au Maroc de vrai désert (avec plein de sable) aussi communément qu'en Tunisie ou en Libye. Et toujours comme on l'a dit sur ce forum, les agences locales ont tendance à vous vendre un tas de sable à la sortie de Zagora comme le désert.
Ceci dit, entre Merzouga et l'erg Chegaga au bout de la Vallée du Drâa, pour moi, il n'y a pas photo ! Choisissez l'erg Chegaga. Ceci dit aussi, si vous allez dans l'ex Sahara Occidental ou même à la Plage Blanche, vous pourrez avoir de gros tas de sable dignes de ce nom et une réelle sensation de liberté et de désert, justement parce qu'il n'y a pas d'infrastructure touristique. J'aime aller là-bas justement pour ça.
En revanche, ce qui est logique mais qu'il faut bien comprendre, c'est que le niveau et le choix des prestations diminue avec la moindre fréquentation. Donc dans le Sahara occidental, pas de balade à dromadaire, la bête étant essentiellement consacrée à l'abattage et la nourriture comme nos vaches !
Donc au Maroc souhaiter trouver des infrastructures hors de la fréquentation de masse, c'est totalement utopique.
Le campement près de Tissint dont il est question dans ce dialogue, je le connais, je l'aime sur bien des aspects et y mets certains de mes clients. Mais ce n'est pas le désert de sable. Et ca reste un lieu de rassemblement touristique : soit vous avez de la chance et il n'y a personne d'autre, soit de la malchance et vous avez un groupe d'allemands / espagnols que sais-je venus s'enivrer toute la nuit comme partout ailleurs dans les autres campements touristiques.
Le désert s'apprécie dans son éloignement des autres, dans la solitude.
Et c'est ce que vous recherchez. Pour le faire, vous devez trouver un organisateur qui soit capable de vous faire un bivouac 'sauvage', loin des campements touristiques et en individuel. Ca existe... Et n'espérez pas juste y passer une nuit, ce qui serait contraire à l'esprit.
C'est ma philosophie justement ! Pour mes clients pressés, je les place dans des campements organisés d'hôtels, en les prévenant des avantages et inconvénients. Pour les autres, je les emmène loin des campements pour une autre formule. Cherchez sur internet et vous trouverez certainement des prestataires. Il faut ensuite faire le tri... Et si je suis censuré pour ce que j'écris ici, tant pis, j'irai partager ma passion et mon expérience ailleurs sans souci comme je le fais depuis longtemps !
Sachez juste que votre rêve n'est pas impossible.
Bonjour
<<< A Icht, vous avez ce campement très bien>>> http://www.borj-biramane.com/
Oui Françoise, c'est bien chez les frères Ardéchois, mais c'est plus des cailloux que du sable , sinon pour y être passé en mars 2016 donc cette année ils reçoivent de plus en plus des groupes , et il n'y avait aucune place , à noter l'autre bivouac à l'entrée du village d'Icht coté Foum el Hassane qui pourrait dépanner ...
Bernard_Bayle
<<< A Icht, vous avez ce campement très bien>>> http://www.borj-biramane.com/
Oui Françoise, c'est bien chez les frères Ardéchois, mais c'est plus des cailloux que du sable , sinon pour y être passé en mars 2016 donc cette année ils reçoivent de plus en plus des groupes , et il n'y avait aucune place , à noter l'autre bivouac à l'entrée du village d'Icht coté Foum el Hassane qui pourrait dépanner ...
Bernard_Bayle
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Salut Luc ,
Un très bon retour de la part d'un connaisseur , qu'on peut recommander . Je suis passé a voté du campement de Tissint mais je n'ai pas été le voir , juste des photos sur le net'. C'est l'emplacement dans le canyon qui me plait. Pour le reste il n'y a pas de miracle helas , soit tu vas dans dû touristiques et tu as des infrastructures soit tu vas dans le Sahara occidental et tu couche au pied ou dans ta voiture . C'est sympa , je l'ai fait vers Smaraa , mais ce n'est pas ce que demande la personne . D'autre part je ne sais pas si c'est bien le moment . N'y a t'il rien vers le lac Iriki ? Il me semblait avoir vu passer une info .
Un très bon retour de la part d'un connaisseur , qu'on peut recommander . Je suis passé a voté du campement de Tissint mais je n'ai pas été le voir , juste des photos sur le net'. C'est l'emplacement dans le canyon qui me plait. Pour le reste il n'y a pas de miracle helas , soit tu vas dans dû touristiques et tu as des infrastructures soit tu vas dans le Sahara occidental et tu couche au pied ou dans ta voiture . C'est sympa , je l'ai fait vers Smaraa , mais ce n'est pas ce que demande la personne . D'autre part je ne sais pas si c'est bien le moment . N'y a t'il rien vers le lac Iriki ? Il me semblait avoir vu passer une info .
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J'oubliais. L'alternative, la meilleure évidemment, est d'avoir son propre 4x4, son gps, son plan de route, son autonomie, d'utiliser les Guides Gandini (non, je n'ai pas d'affinité avec Gandini, merci de ne pas me censurer), d'avoir son propre équipement et de sortir des sentiers battus. ¨Pas besoin même de s'éloigner fortement de l'erg Chegaga et des campements pour touristes pour trouver sa dune, son puits et son bonheur. perso, j'y ai fait il y a deux ans une semaine de vacances en famille, en totale déconnexion, c'était le pied !
Merci pour ta gentillesse.
J'ai bien compris la demande de cette personne, qui s'inscrit dans un axe précis, mais j'essayais d'illustrer mon propos de façon disons plus générale sur le désert au Maroc.
Mais je ne suis pas d'accord avec toi, et je suis bien placé pour le dire, il est possible de sortir des sentiers battus sans aller dormir dans un gros campement situé à côté d'un autre, je le fais depuis dix ans ! C'est évidemment plus cher , quoique nettement moins que les pseudo bivouacs de luxe vendus localement. Tout en restant abordable, sinon je n'aurais pas de client ! Ce n'est pas parce que tu ne l'as pas expérimenté que ça n'existe pas , et toc ! et ensuite je t'invite à partager un de mes circuits de reconnaissance si ca t'intéresse ! Bon, je file à mes tagines, à plus, Luc
J'oubliais encore. Tu dis 'est-ce bien le moment ?'
Là, on retombe dans le cliché du Maroc dangereux, des risques dans le désert ? Restons sérieux. Le risque avéré et majeur, s'il en existe sur le Maroc, c'est sur les grandes villes Marrakech, Essaouira, Casa et Agadir. Certainement pas dans un bivouac d'une nuit isolé dans le désert... Non ? En tout cas, moi je me sens bien plus en sécurité en faisant cela qu'en dormant dans mon camping-car à Paris ou Bruxelles lors de mes tournées de repas de dégustation berbère en Europe !!!
Oh ! Luc , tu n' as pas compris ce que j'ai voulu dire , s'il y a bien quelqu'un sur ce forum qui n’arrête pas d'enfoncer le clou sur la sécurité au Maroc c'est bien moi . Simplement je me souviens des arrêts fréquents des forces de l'ordre vers Smaraa et peut etre qu'il est plus facile d'aller vers le tas de sable de Merzouga ou vers M'Hamid sans etre dérangé .
Il me semble évident que si un jour danger il y a ce seras dans une ville touristique et je prefere dormir dans ma voiture seule loin de tout que dans un centre touristique Européen .
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Allez va finir tes tagines 😛
Pour le reste je ne doute pas que tu puisse organiser des trucs sympas en dehors des bivouacs a risque de style espagnols avinés ( rien contre les espagnols je le suis par moitié 😉) ou des noceurs teutons (ma deuxième moitié😉) venus profiter du silence de la nuit pour s'éclater . Chacun fait ce qu'il lui plait , mais moi je n'aime pas ça du tout .....😎
Que se vuelva la tortilla
OK donc on reste sur la même longueur d'ondes, c'est rassurant et merci ! (d'autant que c'est déjà assez galère comme ça!)
Quelle mauvaise pioche j'ai fait : Espagnole et Allemande !!! Bon, je dirais que des Belges dont je fais partie + des Hollandais, ca dois donner des résultats semblables...
Mais le fond du problème est là : le vrai désert peut encore s'approcher au Maroc, sans grande complication. Faut juste soit être autonome donc expérimenté un minimum, soit trouver le bon prestataire ! D'ailleurs, c'est bien dans le désert que je vais me ressourcer et certainement dans cet état d'esprit que tu partages et semble vouloir notre internaute qui a posé sa question.
Merci beaucoup Luc et Hannah, intéressant de suivre vos points de vues. Je n'ai malheureusement pas le courage de m'embarquer comme suggère Luc dans un voyage individuel, faute de temps pour la préparation et besoin de lever le pieds coté logistique familiale :). Mais j'espère encore pouvoir montrer à mes trois ados quelques coins magnifiques au Maroc sans les désavantages du tourisme de masse. J'adore ce pays (mon mari a fait sa déclaration à Essaouira il y a 20 ans) et la plupart des marocains que j'ai rencontré sur place ou ailleurs.
Et pour revenir à mes moutons....tout autre conseil sur cet axe est fort bienvenu....nous partons dans un mois. bien cordialement
NB Luc, il faut croire que tes propos n'ont pas été censurés :)
Ne parlons- nous pas du même endroit?
Bjr, je parle de Tigmert ou il y a le musée, et Borg à 40 km de Guelmin ou il y a des dunes, des gravures rupestres et le bivouac. Pour y aller on passe parmi les accacias et on peut voir aussi beaucoup de peaux de moutons déposez là par les nomades à secher en attendant de partir vers les tanneries.
Oui oui.
hananah où trouver ton carnet de voyage dans cette ette region?
Je vais essayer de coller les trois derniers
https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=7509885;#7509885
https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=7688888;#7688888
https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=7509885;#7509885
https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=7688888;#7688888
Que se vuelva la tortilla
lhacen à merzouga c'est quelle auberge ? merci
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Thanks in advance.
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
Thanks in advance.
Hi, I'm looking for a taxi from Dakhla airport to downtown Dakhla.
If you know a contact ?????
Hi there,
I’m looking for info about driving a vehicle in Tunisia.
Is it complicated?
Do I need an international driver’s permit?
Thanks for your help
Hi there,
I’m heading to Morocco in September 2026, and part of my trip takes me through Merzouga. I’m looking for a 4x4 driver-guide to explore the area with my partner and me.
Any recommendations?
Have a great day
I’m heading to Morocco in September 2026, and part of my trip takes me through Merzouga. I’m looking for a 4x4 driver-guide to explore the area with my partner and me.
Any recommendations?
Have a great day
It's all in the title.
Thanks in advance
Hi everyone,
Even though I come to Morocco four times a year, it’s been a long time since I’ve made the trip by car. I need to refresh my knowledge! I’ll be traveling in early October. I have a car that’s about 20 years old. The plan is to cross via Algeciras/Ceuta.
A few questions:
1) Does this crossing still exist? If so, do I need to buy the ticket in advance or on the spot? From whom? Any advice is welcome!
2) What documents are required for the car?
3) If anyone is making the trip around the same time, it could be fun to drive together 😊
I know there are experts on this forum.
Thanks in advance
Even though I come to Morocco four times a year, it’s been a long time since I’ve made the trip by car. I need to refresh my knowledge! I’ll be traveling in early October. I have a car that’s about 20 years old. The plan is to cross via Algeciras/Ceuta.
A few questions:
1) Does this crossing still exist? If so, do I need to buy the ticket in advance or on the spot? From whom? Any advice is welcome!
2) What documents are required for the car?
3) If anyone is making the trip around the same time, it could be fun to drive together 😊
I know there are experts on this forum.
Thanks in advance
Hi there,
I’m looking for some friendly recommendations for places to stay in Marrakech for 3 nights in June 2026.
In the meantime, have a great day, everyone! Thanks so much in advance.
hi,
I’m planning to take the SETE-TANGER ferry with my car.
No agency in my town sells tickets.
Has anyone done this before and can point me in the right direction?
Thanks in advance.
have a good day
I’m planning to take the SETE-TANGER ferry with my car.
No agency in my town sells tickets.
Has anyone done this before and can point me in the right direction?
Thanks in advance.
have a good day
Good evening, everyone!
I’m reaching out to gather your thoughts on an itinerary (10 days... or more?) I’d like to do at the beginning of June 🙂.
Just so you know, I’m planning to do this trip solo (25 years old), using only public transport and just a backpack. I’ve already been to Marrakech and climbed Mount Toubkal two years ago...
I’ll be arriving in Tangier. Day 1-2: Explore the city center, hike around Cap Spartel... Day 3: Stop in Tetouan Day 4-5-6: Chefchaouen and a day hike in the Rif Mountains Day 6-7: Discover the city of Fes (I’ve heard so many great things!!) Day 8: Stop in Meknes and possibly visit the historic site of Volubilis Day 9-10: Rabat (I’ve heard mixed things... some good, some bad) After that, I have the choice of heading back to Tangier for my return flight... or going down to Agadir (also a possible return flight) and extending my trip by 5 days :)
From what I can tell, everything is well connected by bus (CTM) or train (ONCF). Another question: Is the vibe in Moroccan youth hostels for meeting people the same as what you’d find in Western Europe?
Thanks in advance for your replies and your kindness! 😊
I’m reaching out to gather your thoughts on an itinerary (10 days... or more?) I’d like to do at the beginning of June 🙂.
Just so you know, I’m planning to do this trip solo (25 years old), using only public transport and just a backpack. I’ve already been to Marrakech and climbed Mount Toubkal two years ago...
I’ll be arriving in Tangier. Day 1-2: Explore the city center, hike around Cap Spartel... Day 3: Stop in Tetouan Day 4-5-6: Chefchaouen and a day hike in the Rif Mountains Day 6-7: Discover the city of Fes (I’ve heard so many great things!!) Day 8: Stop in Meknes and possibly visit the historic site of Volubilis Day 9-10: Rabat (I’ve heard mixed things... some good, some bad) After that, I have the choice of heading back to Tangier for my return flight... or going down to Agadir (also a possible return flight) and extending my trip by 5 days :)
From what I can tell, everything is well connected by bus (CTM) or train (ONCF). Another question: Is the vibe in Moroccan youth hostels for meeting people the same as what you’d find in Western Europe?
Thanks in advance for your replies and your kindness! 😊
Tickets for entry to Majorelle Garden are only issued online via an official site
(though there are fraudulent sites out there). On the official site, they ask for legitimate info
(name, nationality, etc.). What made me go "hmm" was the request for both an email address
AND a password (with confirmation). Is this normal?
Thanks for your replies.
Hi there, a group of girlfriends and I are heading to Tunisia. We’d love to know how much cash we should bring for 6 days, considering everything’s already paid for at the hotel. Thanks for your tips!
Hi everyone! :)
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
A lot of people find it important to stick to their budget when traveling—not to skimp, but to visit as many places as possible since traveling is their hobby.
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Hi,
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Hi there,
Can anyone tell me if it's possible to travel from the Dades Gorges (Msemrir) to the Todra Gorges (Tamtatouche) on a paved road? Thanks in advance for any answers.
Hello,
We’d like to hire a French-speaking guide (agency, professional, or volunteer) to show us around Cairo over three days.
Trip planned for November 22, 23, and 24, 2026—four veteran French travelers.
We’re open to any leads, contact info, or suggestions.
Best regards,
Jacques
Hi there,
I have a layover in Algeria.
I won’t be leaving the airport.
The two tickets aren’t with the same airline.
Do I need a transit visa?
Thanks for any details and your help!
Hi there,
I live in Casablanca and my parents, who are 80, will be joining me in Marrakech at the beginning of May for a few days.
We’ll be renting a car to get around.
Do you have any suggestions for things to see or visit within a 2-3 hour drive max from Marrakech that aren’t too touristy?
My parents can walk a bit, but at 80, no climbing Mount Toubkal!
Thanks so much in advance for your ideas!
Hi everyone, just back from the 8-day Marrakech-Merzouga loop by car, and I’d love to share my feedback in case it helps some of you. Big thanks to all the forum members who kindly answered my questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!