je souhaiterais avoir vos commentaires sur ce voyage.
nous partons a 2 familles en 4x4 avec 4 enfants (8 et 11 ans) pour le voyage suivant: Namibie-Bostwana-Vic Falls (avril 2012)
Vols deja pris Lyon- Francfort - Windhoek (air namibia)
Vic Falls-Windhoek-Francfort-Lyon.
Nous pensons reserver avec Namikala (agence sur place)
oui nous allons rater les Himba ou alors on arrive a modifier le trajet mais impossible d'aller jusqu'a Epupa, !! mais il fallait faire des choix si on voulait aller jusqu'aux chutes Victoria et traverser la bande Caprivi.
Auriez vous deja vecu cette experience ? avril dans la bande Caprivi ????
pour la partie en Namibie je ne suis pas inquiet...pour Caprivi 🤪
Namikala me dit que c'est magnifique et donc a faire. Pas trop de probleme sinon qu'il y a de l'eau 🙂 et qu'on va aller ds des lodges.
merci d'avance pour vos commetaires avises
Bien COrdialement.
samedi 7 avril 2012: Desert du Namib (Camping de Sesriem - C)
dimanche 8 avril 2012: Desert du Namib (Camping de Sesriem - C)
lundi 9 avril 2012: Swakopmund (Pension Rapmund - BB)
mardi 10 avril 2012: Swakopmund (Pension Rapmund - BB)
mercredi 11 avril 2012: Damaraland/Twyfelfontein (Camp Xaragu - C OU Aba Huab Campsite - C)
jeudi 12 avril 2012: Damaraland/Twyfelfontein (Camp Xaragu - C Aba Huab Campsite - C)
vendredi 13 avril 2012: Twyfelfontein/Otitjongue (Otjitotongwe Cheetah Farm)
samedi 14 avril 2012: Etosha (Okaukuejo Rest Camp - C)
dimanche 15 avril 2012: Etosha (Namutoni Rest Camp - C)
lundi 16 avril 2012: Rundu (N’Kwazi Lodge – BB)
mardi 17 avril 2012: Divundu/popa falls (Mahango Safari Lodge - C)
mercredi 18 avril 2012: Divundu/popa falls (Mahango Safari Lodge - C)
jeudi 19 avril 2012: Region du Kongola (Mazambala Island Lodge - C)
vendredi 20 avril 2012: Region du Kongola (Mazambala Island Lodge - C)
samedi 21 avril 2012: Botswana Chobe Nord( Kubu Lodge - C OU Chobe Safari Lodge - C)
dimanche 22 avril 2012: Botswana Chobe Nord (Kubu Lodge - C OU Chobe Safari Lodge - C)
lundi 23 avril 2012: Zimbabwe: Chutes Victoria (Gorges Lodge - BB OU Amadeus Garden Guesthouse)
mardi 24 avril 2012: Zimbabwe: Chutes Victoria (Gorges Lodge - BB OU Amadeus Garden Guesthouse)
mercredi 25 avril 2012: Maun - Windhoek
Salut,
C'est intense.
La journée du 25 avril va être terrible! 🙂
Je trouve que la journée du 18 avril à Mahango lodge pourrait être supprimée à conditions de pouvoir visiter le parc de Mahango (2 à 3 heures) la veille ce qui est tout à fait possible.
Départ de Rundu et arrivée à Mahango 3h30 plus tard.
Je ne connais pas le camp Xaragu mais 2 jours sur place, c'est beaucoup non? Ou alors il y a des game drive intéressants?
oui le retour rique d'etre chaud :)
C'est intense mais nous avons essaye de faire 2 jours au meme endroit pour eviter trop de route tous les jours.
Camp Xaragu: je ne sais pas si c'est trop mais a priori il fallait rester au moins 2 jours dans le Damaraland pour visiter +
game drive a la recherche des Rhino ?
mais sinon peut etre qu'on tirer sur Sesfontein...mais la on va faire de la route !!!
ou alors on coupe une journee de plus dans la bande de Caprivi.
je viens de discuter avec un collegue qui m'a dit de piquer direct dans le Bostwana plutot que de trainer dans la bande de Caprivi ???
je viens de discuter avec un collegue qui m'a dit de piquer direct dans le Bostwana plutot que de trainer dans la bande de Caprivi ???
Je trouve que tu restes un jour de trop à Mahango je te l'ai dit.
Je viens de relire. Tu restes en lodge au Mazambala lodge? Le camping n'est pas génial. Je ne connais pas le lodge. C'est vrai que tu pourrais tirer directement vers Kasane même si ça fait une grande journée de route.
De toutes façons c'est ton voyage et il n'y a pas de grosse faute car sur 2 semaines tu ne peux pas tout faire entrer.
Ça va être intense effectivement ! Je ne vois pas bien comment ajouter Epupa là-dedans. Pour les conditions en avril, je ne connais pas encore personnellement (ça devrait venir 😉) mais effectivement je ne pense pas que ça perturbe trop votre itinéraire, sauf Caprivi et Chobe éventuellement.
samedi 7 avril 2012: Desert du Namib (Camping de Sesriem - C)
C'est un peu gourmand de vouloir passer le premier soir à Sesriem en atterrissant le matin… Je passerais plutôt la première nuit en route (vers Spreetshoogte Pass).
dimanche 8 avril 2012: Desert du Namib (Camping de Sesriem - C)
Deux nuits à Sesriem pas utile. Mais si vous n'y passez pas la précédente…
lundi 9 avril 2012: Swakopmund (Pension Rapmund - BB)
Grosse journée de route
mardi 10 avril 2012: Swakopmund (Pension Rapmund - BB)
OK
mercredi 11 avril 2012: Damaraland/Twyfelfontein (Camp Xaragu - C OU Aba Huab Campsite - C)
jeudi 12 avril 2012: Damaraland/Twyfelfontein (Camp Xaragu - C Aba Huab Campsite - C)
Pourquoi deux nuits à Twyfelfontein ? Je ne vois pas trop l'intérêt. Les paysages sont très beaux, mais on les voit en passant et en s'arrêtant prendre plein de photos. Risque de routes coupées dans ce coin là selon les pluies de l'an prochain.
vendredi 13 avril 2012: Twyfelfontein/Otitjongue (Otjitotongwe Cheetah Farm)
Mouais… L'endroit n'est pas très agréable. Mais l'occasion de caresser des guépards ne se présente pas tous les matins. Le CCF est mieux paraît-il.
samedi 14 avril 2012: Etosha (Okaukuejo Rest Camp - C)
dimanche 15 avril 2012: Etosha (Namutoni Rest Camp - C)
Oui
lundi 16 avril 2012: Rundu (N’Kwazi Lodge – BB)
mardi 17 avril 2012: Divundu/popa falls (Mahango Safari Lodge - C)
mercredi 18 avril 2012: Divundu/popa falls (Mahango Safari Lodge - C)
N'Kwazi et Mahango Safari Lodge sont bien. Mais risque que tout ça soit sous les eaux ou inaccessible en avril. 2 nuits à Mahango, pas vraiment utiles.
jeudi 19 avril 2012: Region du Kongola (Mazambala Island Lodge - C)
vendredi 20 avril 2012: Region du Kongola (Mazambala Island Lodge - C)
Connais pas, mais toujours de problèmes possibles avec l'eau.
samedi 21 avril 2012: Botswana Chobe Nord( Kubu Lodge - C OU Chobe Safari Lodge - C)
dimanche 22 avril 2012: Botswana Chobe Nord (Kubu Lodge - C OU Chobe Safari Lodge - C)
C'est court deux jours, mais bon…
lundi 23 avril 2012: Zimbabwe: Chutes Victoria (Gorges Lodge - BB OU Amadeus Garden Guesthouse)
mardi 24 avril 2012: Zimbabwe: Chutes Victoria (Gorges Lodge - BB OU Amadeus Garden Guesthouse)
2 nuits à Vic Falls, c'est beaucoup.
mercredi 25 avril 2012: Maun - Windhoek
Alors là, un truc m'échappe ! Vous revenez quand de Vic Falls à Maun ?
Et Maun-Windhoek en une étape à la veille d'un avion à prendre, perso, je ne tenterais pas. Au moindre pépin, tu le rates !
Les eaux sont tellement hautes dans le coin que la route a déjà été coupée plusieurs fois entre Maun et Ghanzi cette année. Si ça se reproduit…
À cette saison, avec des tentes, je ne réserverais pas grand chose pour rester souple en fonction des conditions de route et de météo…
on arrive le 6 avril au matibn => une journee complete a Windhoek.
dimanche 8 avril 2012: Desert du Namib (Camping de Sesriem - C)
lundi 9 avril 2012: Swakopmund (Pension Rapmund - BB)
Si on ne reste qu'une nuit a Sesriem alors quel est le meilleur endroit pour couper la journee de route entre sesriem et Swakopmund ?
jeudi 12 avril 2012: Damaraland/Twyfelfontein
Ensuite si on fait qu'une nuit a Twyfelfontein...ou passer la nuit suivante ??? proposition ? on remonte vers sesfontein ?
vendredi 13 avril 2012: Twyfelfontein/Otitjongue
C'est quoi le CCF et ou ? mais c'est bien pour les enfants cet arret.
mercredi 18 avril 2012: Divundu/popa falls (Mahango Safari Lodge - C)
Je vais voir quoi changer...si ca fait une journee de trop (2 a me le dire)...peut etre rajouter une journee a Chobe Nord alors
jeudi 19 avril 2012: Region du Kongola (Mazambala Island Lodge - C)
vendredi 20 avril 2012: Region du Kongola (Mazambala Island Lodge - C)
mardi 24 avril 2012: Zimbabwe: Chutes Victoria (Gorges Lodge - BB OU Amadeus Garden Guesthouse)
Soit on annule ces 3 jours et on reste un peu plus de tps au Bostwana soit on reparti ailleurs ?????
un ami m'a dit de passer du temps au Bostwana (Moreni....)
mercredi 25 avril 2012: Maun - Windhoek
En fait on laisse le 4x4 sur place et on rentre en avion, ceci devrait clarifier les choses.
Fallait le dire que vous arriviez la veille à Windhoek ! :-)
Dans ce cas :
Samedi 7 : Sesriem OK
Dimanche 8 : visite Sossusvlei et Sesriem le matin, nuit à proximité de Solitaire (Gecko Camp, très bien, paysage grandiose du "Hilltop campsite")
Lundi 9 : Swakopmund
Ensuite si on fait qu'une nuit a Twyfelfontein...ou passer la nuit suivante ??? proposition ? on remonte vers sesfontein ?
C'est avant que tu peux faire quelque chose en passant une nuit à Spitzkoppe ou Brandberg.
Le CCF (Cheetah Conservation Fund, c'est au Nord-Est d'Otjiwarongo à une 50aine de kms)
Tu peux rajouter du temps à Chobe River Front, c'est bien. Moremi, c'est génial, mais en si peu de temps, oublie.
Je passerais 3 nuits à Kasane en consacrant une journée à Vic Falls avec une excursion organisée par un lodge. Plus simple, et moins cher que de passer les 4x4 et suffisant !
mercredi 25 avril 2012: Maun - Windhoek
En fait on laisse le 4x4 sur place et on rentre en avion, ceci devrait clarifier les choses.
Je comprends un peu mieux… Mais pas encore tout à fait. La route de Kasane (ou Vic Falls) à Maun vous la faites quand ? Pourquoi pas un vol depuis Vic Falls ou Kasane ? C'est le plus évident !
super...je regarde tout ca ce soir de plus pret 😄
ya du changement dans l'air.
PS: le vol de retour c'est Vic Falls - Windhoek. mais je crois qu'on laisse la voiture a Kasane. Faut que je me renseigne.
Bon voila ou nous en sommes:
vendredi 6 qvril 2012: Windhoek
samedi 7 avril 2012: Desert du Namib (Camping de Sesriem - C)
dimanche 8 avril 2012: Namib/Solitaire (Camping de Gecko - C)
lundi 9 avril 2012: Solitaire/Swakopmund (Pension Rapmund - BB)
mardi 10 avril 2012: Swakopmund (Pension Rapmund - BB)
mercredi 11 avril 2012: Sakopmund/Spitzkoppe (Camp ?????? - C)
jeudi 12 avril 2012: Spitzkoppe/Twyfelfontein (Camp Xaragu - C Aba Huab Campsite - C)
vendredi 13 avril 2012: Twyfelfontein/Otitjongue (Otjitotongwe Cheetah Farm) ou Cheetah Conservation Fund
samedi 14 avril 2012: Etosha (Okaukuejo Rest Camp - C)
dimanche 15 avril 2012: Etosha (Namutoni Rest Camp - C)
lundi 16 avril 2012: Rundu (N’Kwazi Lodge – BB)
mardi 17 avril 2012: Divundu/popa falls (Mahango Safari Lodge - C)
ENSUITE ????? 7 jours complets au depart de Popa Falls.....Que feriez vous ? Chobe nord ou river front (c quoi la difference ?), Moremi combien de jours.....Vic Falls a la journee depuis Kasane ?
mercredi 18 avril 2012: 😕
jeudi 19 avril 2012: 😕
vendredi 20 avril 2012: 😕
samedi 21 avril 2012: ?😕
dimanche 22 avril 2012: 😕
lundi 23 avril 2012: 😕
mardi 24 avril 2012: Zimbabwe: ?
mercredi 25 avril 2012: Vic Falls - Windhoek
Reste donc 7 jours a combler et manque 1 camp a Spitzkoppe et 1 a Twyfelfontein ....
merci d'avance.
C'est bien la première fois que je vois quelqu'un qui a trop de temps en moins de trois semaines ! 😏😏😏
Je persiste à penser que tu ne peux pas caser Moremi dans ton itinéraire.
Tu peux rajouter une nuit (Palmwag ou Grootberg) entre Twyfelfontein et Otjitotongwe, sinon la route sera longue et il faudra partir très très tôt pour être à temps pour les activités avec les guépards. Le CCF n'est pas dans le même coin et pas sur ton itinéraire pour l'instant.
Ensuite tu peut aussi rajouter une nuit (ou 2 ?) dans le Caprivi entre Mahango et Kasane (Camp Kwando par exemple).
Tu peux aussi passer une nuit dans Chobe à Ihaha par exemple puis deux ou trois à Kasane.
Chobe Nord et Chobe River Front, c'est la même chose. Par opposition à Chobe "Forest" où se trouve Savuti.
À Spitzkoppe, il n'y a que le camp communautaire, réservation inutile.
À Twyfelfontein, on a campé sur un emplacement du Mowani. Superbe. Résa obligatoire.
Le problème a déjà été soulevé par Pierre mais apparemment pas entendu.
Ce beau projet risque fortement d'être compromis par la crue dans la bande de Caprivi à cette saison.
Il y a 2 ans à même époque le Mahango lodge était sous 1,50 m d'eau. J'ai vu les photos l'été suivant c'était impressionnant.
Les crues sont effectivement terribles dans la région.
Je me ferai aussi un beau voyage en Namibie avec éventuellement un saut à Kasane+Victoria Falls
complique 🙁
Trop de temps...non, Non, pas trop de temps mais ne sais plus comment boucler le periple dans le temps imparti.
Donc j'enleve Moremi, ca tombe bien ca n'ete pas dans le projet de depart 😎 une prochaine fois alors
La contrainte..si cela en est une, est que nous avons notre avion qui part de Vic falls pour le retour.
Donc il nous faut trouver le meilleur trajet de Etosha pour aller jusqu'aux chutes en passant par la bande Caprivi ou/et Bostwana.
voila ce que cela donnerait avec tes/vos commentaires...pas si loin de ce qui etait prevu finalement.
Je me demande en effet si il vaudrait mieux ne rien reserver dans Caprivi pour etre plus flexible.....
mardi 17 avril 2012: Divundu/popa falls (Mahango Safari Lodge - C)
mercredi 18 avril 2012: Region du Kongola (Kwando C ou Mazambala Island Lodge - C)
jeudi 19 avril 2012: Region du Kongola (Kwando C ou Mazambala Island Lodge - C)
vendredi 20 avril 2012: Botswana Chobe Nord( ihaha Camp- C)
samedi 21 avril 2012: Botswana Chobe Nord(Kubu Lodge - C OU Chobe Safari Lodge - C)
dimanche 22 avril 2012: Botswana Chobe Nord (Kubu Lodge - C OU Chobe Safari Lodge - C)
lundi 23 avril 2012: Botswana Chobe Nord (Kubu Lodge - C OU Chobe Safari Lodge - C)
mardi 24 avril 2012: Botswana Chobe Nord -day visit to Vic Falls (Kubu Lodge - C OU Chobe Safari Lodge - C)
mercredi 25 avril 2012: Vic Falls - Windhoek
Il me reste encore un peu de temps pour finaliser le voyage, alors n'hesitez pas a commenter.
Pour la Namibie, je rajoute une etape a Spitzkoppe...et pour Mowani, ca a l'air magnifique.
je confirme également que Caprivi en avril, c'est crues et pluies quasiment assurées... Nous étions à Chobe River en mai, et les pluies venaient de cesser. En plus, tu auras moins d'animaux, tout le monde étant vers les Pans à cette période.
Une option à étudier à mon avis serait de descendre sur Maun, faire deux jours dans le delta, et continuer par Nxai Pan vers Kasane via Nata. La route entre Maun et Kasane via Nata est en bitume, et se fait en une journée (Maun-Nata 4h, Nata-Kasane 4h aussi). Ce n'est pas aussi sexy que les pistes de Moremi, Savuti et Chobe, mais quand même beaucoup plus rapide, facile et confortable, et les Pans sont superbes à cette saison, avec les baobabs, tous les herbivores et les prédateurs. Comme ça tu verrais le delta de l'Okavango, un Pan et le Chobe river front en excursion depuis Kasane, c'est un joli aperçu du Botswana!
Je me ferai aussi un beau voyage en Namibie avec éventuellement un saut à Kasane+Victoria Falls
C est exactement ce que j allais dire.
Rendre le 4x4 à Windhoek 4 ou 5 jours plus tôt et faire un saut de puce-avion à Kasane-Chobe-VicFalls via les lodges qui poroposent des Game drive et des game boats et des A/R VicFalls...
Franck
Je connais un TO Local qui propose ce genre de Tours, je te donne ses coordonnées en MP si tu veux. 😛
A+
Tanzanie-2010
Kawaza Village
Botswana : https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2037270
j'ai deja le vol retour Vic Falls-Windhoek.
Il me resterait donc a prendre le vol Windhoek-Kasane.
par contre 5 jours en lodge + game drives ca doit pas etre donne.
ok pour que tu m'envoies les coordonnees de ton contact.
j avais organisé tout mon Périple en Namibie avec Belafrica, qui m avait préparé ça "aux petits oignons"...
OK Merci.
Il y en a d'autres effectivement comme Madizo, mais si tu as été content de Belafrica y'a pas de raisons. Ce n'est pas favoriser l'un ou l'autre que de donner de bons plans.
🙂
J'ai seulement découvert cette discussion hier soir 😕
Je suis tout à fait du même avis que vinny et fred concernant la traversée de Caprivi à cette saison ainsi que sur celui de Pierre pour plusieurs parties. 😉
Ce sujet des inondations a été évoqué à maintes reprises chaque année depuis 2009.
Petit résumé des 3 dernières années:
- - 2009
ce message d' avril
http://www.4x4community.co.za/...owthread.php?t=33751
Traduction google
D'après ce que je peux recueillir un certain nombre d'emplacements de camping qui sont sous l'eau pour le moment. Nous avions prévu de rester au Namwi Island, Nambwa et Ngepi, mais ceux-ci peuvent ne pas être accessibles de ce que je peux le faire croire. Y at-il d'autres endroits vraiment bon camp qui ne seront pas touchées par les inondations au début
- - 2010
les messages de glafougne
1 avant son départ :Re: Voyage en Namibie et Botswana: savoir se repérer facilement
20 avril 2010
"Mahango nous annonce que tout est inondé" http://voyageforum.com/...ost=3362293;#3362293
A ta place je plancherais sérieusement sur un plan B pour remplacerplusieurs nuits dans Caprivi par d'autres .
Par exemple depuis Windhoek en descendant d'abord un peu vers le sud :
(1)vers Mariental puis (2) les Tirasberge (ranch Koiimasis- Koiimasis guest farm) + une nuit au N de Sossusvlei (3)par ex ici
où il y a lodge et campsite (voir également sur cette même page l'onglet "alternatives" )et 1 nuit de plus à Etosha !
Pierre proposait une nuit supplémentaire après Twyfelfontein :Dolomite camp où (comme j'ai cru comprendre les explications de Vinny) certains animaux - dont les éléphants-"émigrent à cette saison .
Plusieurs personnes ont été déçus par Mahango et les Popa falls sont-elles accessibles pdt cette saison ??
Pour les Vicfalls si vous n'y faites aucune activité (canyoning , hélico etc) ce n'est pas la peine d'y loger car effectivement tous les lodges organisent une excursion départ Kasane 8h retour 17h.
Gardez ces 2 nuits à caser ailleurs.
Kasane (ou Kasungula) (Chobe river) et Ihaha méritent plusieurs jours c'est "impératif" 😉
Bonne prépa !
PS Je joins des photos de L'Agama que j'avais prises comme points de repère pour un éventuel retour 😉, je trouvais cet emplacement et sa simplicité TB (situé tout juste à l'entrée du Namib Naukluft P.)
🏴☠️
Arrrghhhhhhh mais je veux en voir des zanimo !!!!!!!!!!!
je sais plus trop que faire je dois avouer, notre avion de retour partant des chutes victoria....
enfin je vois que quand il pleut...il pleut et ce de partout Namib, Fish River...........
on commence par Kalahari qui n'etait pas dans le plan c'est possible
Il nous faudra rejoindre Kasane par n'importe quel moyen......grrrrr
plan 1 - on raccourci le tps passe dans Caprivi pour rejoindre Chobe Nord/Kasane plus rapidement et on se pose qques jour entre ihaha et Kubu ou Chobe safari
et on profite pour faire un AR aux Chutes.
plan 2 - on enleve tout court Caprivi, redescend sur Windhoek pour prendre vol jusqu'a Kasane.
Salut,
Tu as des frais d'abandon de véhicule à Kasane lorsque tu loues à Windhoek. 300€
Voir ce que coûte un vol WDH-Kasane. A titre perso, je traverserai la bande de Caprivi et laisserai mon véhicule à Kasane. Même inondé, il y a sûrement 2-3 trucs à voir, quitte à rouler 2 jours entre Etosha et Kasane.
Allez à Kasane via le Caprivi doit être possible en logeant dans des lodges qui ne se trouvent pas tout au bord de la rivière .
2 étapes - à Rundu (le N'Kwazi se trouve tout au bord) puis du côté de Kongola
Je sais que certains lodges viennent chercher leurs clients en barque.
Sinon venant d'Etosha tu peux atteindre Kasane par Tsumeb- Grootfontein--B8 - C44 -> Tsumkwe-Dobe-Nokaneng- Sehitwa-Maun- Gweta-Nata- Kasane.
ou via la transkalahari Windhoek- Gobabis- Ghanzi- Sehitwa etc
et on se pose qques jour entre ihaha et Kubu ou Chobe safari
Ihaha se trouve dans le Chobe parc tous les autres + ou - en ville le long du fleuve Chobe soit à Kasane/kasungula.
Voici la liste des hébergements avec une appréciation et parfois une mise en garde
http://www.maunselfdrive4x4.com/nchobetokasanearea.htm
j'ai planché de nouveau grâce a tous vos commentaires et ça me parait pas mal NOW !!!!!!
Ce sera donc......mais reste toujours 2 jours a insérer et la j'aurai encore besoin de vous 😄😄
option1: on part de Windhoek vers Mariental (Kalahari) et ensuite on continue sur le plan tel que prévu et on rajoute une journee a Palmwag
option2: on ajoute 2 jours pour Palmwag + Sesfontein + Warmquelle..........
on veut éviter beaucoup de route tous les jours alors 1 ou 2 ??? ou 3 ?
SINON VOILA.😛
vendredi 6 avril 2012: arrivee a Windoek
samedi 7 avril 2012: Windhoek/Desert du Namib (Camping de Sesriem - C)
dimanche 8 avril 2012: Desert du Namib/Solitaire (Camp Jecko Hiltop - C)
lundi 9 avril 2012: Solitaire/Swakopmund (Pension Rapmund - BB)
mardi 10 avril 2012: Swakopmund (Pension Rapmund - BB)
mercredi 11 avril 2012: Swapokmund/Spitzkoppe (Camp communautaire Spitzkoppe - C)
jeudi 12 avril 2012: Spitzkoppe/Twyfelfontein (Mowani Lodge - Campsite - C)
vendredi 13 avril 2012: Twyfelfontein/Otitjongue (Otjitotongwe Cheetah Farm - C)
samedi 14 avril 2012: Etosha (Okaukuejo Rest Camp - C)
dimanche 15 avril 2012: Etosha (Namutoni Rest Camp - C)
lundi 16 avril 2012: Rundu (N’Kwazi Lodge – BB)
mardi 17 avril 2012: Divundu/popa falls (Mahango Safari Lodge - C)
mercredi 18 avril 2012: Region du Kongola (Kwando camp site - C)
jeudi 19 avril 2012: Botswana Chobe Nord( Kubu Lodge - BB)
vendredi 20 avril 2012: Botswana Chobe Nord( Kubu Lodge - BB)
samedi 21 avril 2012: Botswana Chobe Nord( Kubu Lodge - BB)
dimanche 22 avril 2012: Zimbabwe: Chutes Victoria (Gorges Lodge - BB OU Amadeus Garden Guesthouse)
lundi 23 avril 2012: Vic Falls - Windhoek - Francfort - Lyon et la on pleure
Dans l'absolu, je choisirais l'option 1 mais… si comme Vinny te l'a dit et comme je l'ai déjà évoqué plus haut, si tous les lodges du Caprivi sont sous l'eau en avril prochain ce qui est très probable, que feras-tu ???
Il n'y a plus que 2 arrets dans le Caprivi: Mahango et Kwando.
Mahango - si sous l'eau on tracera.
Kwando m'a confirme qu'il n'y avait aucun souci vu leur emplacement.
ensuite illico vers Chobe Nord.
Kwando m'a aussi confirme que par la route principale qui traverse Caprivi pas de souci, on atteint N'goma Bridge et Kasane sans risque.
Donc pas de risque de bousculer enormement le programme.
Bon, je me permets de revenir pour finaliser ce voyage
je me suis concentre depuis sur la partie Namibie.
voila le periple....il me reste un jour a caser mais j'aimerais que ce soit le plus profitable et la je cale
on debute via Mariental Kalahari
ou
on ajoute un jour mais ou ??? J'attends vos suggestions
J'ai vu aussi que beaucoup traversent les parcs via les pistes (on sera en 4x4), est ce facile de s'orienter entre Swakopmund/Spitzkoppe/twyfelfontein ?
avant la poursuite a travers vers le Bostwana voila ou j'en suis:
vendredi, avril 06, 2012 Windhoek Villa Moringa – BB
samedi, avril 07, 2012 Windhoek/Desert du Namib Piste vers la région de Sesriem, porte d'entrée du Namib Naukluft Park Camping de Sesriem - C
dimanche, avril 08, 2012 Desert du Namib/Solitaire Visite de Sossusvlei. Canyon de Sesriem -puis vers Solitaire Gecko Camping (Hiltop) - C
lundi, avril 09, 2012 Solitaire/Swakopmund via .Moon Landscape & fameuses plantes ''fossiles'' Welwitschias Mirabili. Pension Rapmund - BB
mercredi, avril 11, 2012 Swakopmund/Spitzkoppe "Piste vers l'intérieur du pays à travers le désert du Namib
jeudi, avril 12, 2012 Spitzkoppe/Twyfelfontein Les gravures rupestres de Twyfelfontein, Burnt Mountain, Organ Pipes Mowani lodge - C
vendredi, avril 13, 2012 Twyfelfontein/Palmwag levee tot pour atteindre Rhino Camp pour game drive. Desert Rhino Camp - C
samedi, avril 14, 2012 Palmwag/otjitotongwe Camping + cheetah tour (15h00) otjitotongwe-cheetah-farm
dimanche, avril 15, 2012 Etosha Okaukuejo Rest Camp - C
lundi, avril 16, 2012 Etosha Journée consacrée à la découverte du parc, à votre rythme et en fonction de l’actualité animalière. Namutoni Rest Camp - C
mardi, avril 17, 2012 Etosha/Rundu - N’Kwazi Lodge – BB
Salut,
si tu as un jour à caser et que tu aimes voir des animaux, tu peux caser un de plus à Etosha (même si tout le monde n'est pas de cet avis).
Tourner de point d'eau en point d'eau peut être apprécié. Hallali est un lieu que nous avons apprécié, c'est là que nous avons eu la chance de voir le plus d'animaux "rares"
a+
On me l'a souvent dit, et les photos ? Ben moi je filme !!!
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Hello everyone!
It's been a year since I've been longing for South Africa. Our first trip in August 2025 amazed us, and—rarely—it was a unanimous hit with our little family! We were touched to the core, and from the moment we got home, we couldn’t stop talking about going back. 😄
I’d like to take this opportunity to thank everyone who gave me advice on the itinerary for that first trip (Johannesburg loop: Blyde, Kruger, Eswatini, St. Lucia, Durban, Drakensberg)! Thanks to you, our trip went like a dream!
Since then, I haven’t stopped reading articles and discussions on VoyageForum to keep my head in South Africa a little longer!
So, we finally caved and just booked our tickets for January 2027 (from the 3rd to the 26th), with a plan to do a road trip from Cape Town to Johannesburg in about 3 weeks.
I’ve got a rough itinerary that seems great based on what I’ve read on various forums, but there are still some uncertain points, and that’s where I could use your advice.
3/01: Arrival in Johannesburg at 11:45 PM
4/01: Flight to Cape Town, pick up rental car. Afternoon sightseeing
5,6,7/01: Cape Town to visit the big classics in the area (any tips for finding accommodation: which neighborhood, a specific place?)
8/01: Overnight stop before Oudtshoorn—but where??? (Is it essential, or is the CT-Oudtshoorn drive manageable? If so, I’d gain a day in Oudtshoorn. Google Maps shows over 5 hours of driving...)
9,10/01: Oudtshoorn (or would 3 nights be better to really enjoy the area?)
11,12/01: Knysna, Plettenberg Bay (to have time for hiking—if you’ve got hiking tips, I’m all ears!)
13,14/01: Tsitsikamma (still to have time for hiking—who knows the must-do hikes in the area? But maybe 4 nights in the Knysna-Tsitsikamma area is too much—I’m not sure)
16,17/01: Addo Elephant (I’m torn between 3 nights at Addo or 3 nights at Mountain Zebra. Based on travel journals, especially Michel’s on MZ, I’ve scheduled 3 nights at MZ 😄...)
18,19,20/01: Mountain Zebra NP
21/01: Camdeboo NP (because it looks so beautiful!)
22/01: Overnight stop (where?) before wrapping up the trip with either 2 or 3 nights at Golden Gate NP or the Lesotho option, which appeals to me, but I don’t know if it’s doable in 3 days to be back in Johannesburg by the afternoon of the 26th.
That’s my trip idea for now...
I’m eagerly waiting for your advice, ideas, and comments...
Can’t wait to be back there again!
In Nov./Dec. 2022, I went on a safari in the region and we suffered from the extreme temperatures caused by the "El Niño" phenomenon in the Indian Ocean at that time. On top of the extreme heat, there can be torrential rains, flooding, etc., which have led to disasters with casualties.
We just got back from ten days in Tanzania. We were lucky enough to be guided by Gishaman. Always in a great mood, a good driver, and an excellent guide. Thanks to him, we not only saw the Big Five in one day but also loads of other animals. He works for the local agency Blit Safaris, which provided excellent support throughout our trip. Highly recommended!
I’m planning a potential trip to Namibia for a classic circuit in April 2027.
I’m surprised by how expensive the accommodations inside the parks are—really steep! Is it possible to stay outside the parks but still close enough to enjoy the game drives?
Do you have any recommendations for more reasonably priced lodging? I’m okay with spending 200 to 250 € per night.
No camping—the friend I’m traveling with absolutely refuses 😉, but maybe upgraded tents would work.
Hi everyone,
We’re revising our travel plans for January 2027. Originally, we were considering Uganda for about 14/15 days, but given the current health situation and the restrictions that might affect my partner, who’s American, we’ve decided to switch to Tanzania instead.
I’m used to traveling in South Africa and organizing my trips myself, but I get the impression that planning a safari in Tanzania is quite different.
I know self-drive isn’t really an option in Tanzania. So my main question is: can you organize your own itinerary and book lodges directly, then hire a local driver-guide? Or is it better to go through a local agency that handles the entire safari?
For the itinerary, which parks would you recommend for a first-time visit in January? Serengeti, Ngorongoro, Tarangire, Manyara, Ruaha, Arusha, Selous…
We’d also like to include Zanzibar to end the trip with a few days at the beach. Over 14/15 days, does that sound realistic or too ambitious?
Finally, for flights, is it better to arrive at Kilimanjaro (JRO) or Dar es Salaam (DAR) based on the itinerary we’re considering?
Thanks in advance for your feedback, especially on the best way to organize the safari and which parks to prioritize in January!
Hi, I'm looking for information on the road conditions in Moremi. We're leaving in 15 days, and from what I've heard, the roads are pretty tough to drive on. Any advice?
Thanks
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Just returned from a three-week family trip to Kenya (with three kids aged 10, 12, and 15), and I wanted to share my experience. Forums were super helpful in planning this trip, especially if you want to get a bit off the beaten path.
First off, Kenya is an amazing destination with incredibly friendly and welcoming locals. It was easy to travel around because you can always find someone to give you directions or help you out.
For practical tips—though you’ve probably read this elsewhere—get a Safaricom SIM card when you arrive at the airport so you can pay via M-Pesa (you can top it up with a credit card using the Wise app) and chat with people on WhatsApp. It’ll make your life *so* much easier (booking trains, buses, park entries, etc.) and save you from carrying too much cash or hunting for ATMs.
Also, we went during the first three weeks of July, which wasn’t peak tourist season.
One thing to note: even if you’re using public transport and budget accommodations, Kenya can still be pricey because tourist attractions add up fast—often more expensive than in France. But honestly, it’s usually worth it!
We started our trip with a 5-day homestay. We were welcomed by a really lovely family in Loitokitok with a view of Kilimanjaro right from their garden entrance (just a heads-up: in July, it’s often shrouded in mist!). To find them, search for Greenfield Homestay in Loitokitok. It was a fantastic experience, especially with kids! On top of transfers, they organized several outings with locals: a hike to the Tanzanian border, a motorcycle ride on the foothills of Kilimanjaro, and a day safari in Amboseli. You can book with them eyes closed! For the safari, Anthony (who’s English-speaking) took us around—he’s from the area and knows the park like the back of his hand. Highly recommend him!
Anthony then drove us to Isiolo, a town in the north that’s just starting to open up to tourism. We wanted to see the Monday livestock market, where different ethnic groups gather to buy and sell goats, sheep, and cows (according to Lonely Planet). We were a bit disappointed and wouldn’t recommend it. We also visited Ngare Ndare Forest, which has a stunning waterfall, an interesting walk with an armed ranger (elephants are common), and a suspension bridge for admiring the canopy. Just make sure to let them know you’re coming at least three days in advance to guarantee a ranger will be available. We also did a second safari day in Samburu—it’s a great complement to Amboseli and totally worth it!
Next, we headed to Naivasha (still with Anthony). We found a place on Airbnb (Jasmine House) at Fischerman’s Camp, a campsite we really loved! You’ll spot hippos, monkeys, and beautiful birds there. We organized several activities: a boat ride on the lake to see birds, zebras, and giraffes; a bike safari in Hell’s Gate Park (the campsite is right by the entrance and rents bikes); and a hike to Crater Lake (departing by boat from the campsite), where you walk among zebras, giraffes, and different gazelles. Naivasha is way more touristy than Loitokitok or Isiolo, but there’s no shortage of things to do.
Finally, we spent our last week in Watamu on the coast. To get there, we took an overnight ENA Coach bus from Naivasha to Mombasa, booked via https://www.travler.africa/. It was comfortable and fast, but you’ll need to call the driver to arrange a pickup spot—the restaurant staff at the campsite helped us out with that! Then we took an Uber to Watamu since we had a lot of luggage (we skipped the matatu).
Watamu is nicknamed "Little Italy" because of all the Italian tourists. When we were there (third week of July), it wasn’t peak season yet, so the beaches weren’t cleaned. But we loved the laid-back vibe and how easy it was to get around. We *highly* recommend the marine turtle rescue center—it’s fascinating (especially with kids) and supports a great cause! We were a bit disappointed by the marine park, though—maybe because of the season? There weren’t many fish, and jellyfish kinda ruined the snorkeling. The mangrove tour is also a must-do.
For the trip back to Nairobi, we took the express train from Mombasa. We booked our tickets when we first arrived in Kenya (since payment is only via M-Pesa). The train is reliable and comfortable, and we saw lots of elephants along the way. Just a heads-up: there are *a lot* of security checks, and we almost weren’t allowed to board with our Opinel knife…
If you have any questions, feel free to ask!
All in all, we had an amazing trip—so much variety, great encounters, and the magic of safaris!
My trip to South Africa is getting closer (still 2 months to go 😏), and I’m diving back into my itinerary: from Saturday to the following Sunday around Cape Town, then from Sunday to the following Saturday in Kruger.
For Cape Town, the plan was to avoid changing accommodation every day (we’ll do enough of that in the second part) but still see different landscapes.
I know, I’m missing out on a lot, but you’ve got to make choices, and after all this time, I know what I like—and especially what I don’t (or like less) 😉
Here’s the breakdown:
Arrival Saturday at 11 AM: heading to Hermanus (2 nights). The idea is to stroll along the cliff path in the afternoon, and possibly drive to the Klein River Lagoon. Sunday: Stony Point, then depending on time and weather, a hike in Kogelberg Nature Reserve or Fernkloof Nature Reserve (which seems less scenic but has shorter walks).
Monday: drive to Franschhoek (1 night). If everything lines up, a hike in Jonkershoek NR and a visit to a wine estate.
Tuesday: drive to Mountceder Lodge in the Cederberg (2 nights). I’m thinking of visiting the Stadsaal Caves and the elephant paintings, and maybe one of the hikes listed on the lodge’s site or Maltese Cross.
Thursday: heading to Hout Bay for 3 nights. In no particular order: a classic day trip around the peninsula, half a day at Kirstenbosch Gardens, and half a day at Lion’s Head.
Sunday: flight to Johannesburg.
My questions are mostly about (short) hikes:
Has anyone here done hikes in Kogelberg, Fernkloof, or Jonkershoek?
At Mountceder Lodge (Michel, if you’re reading this… 😉), has anyone tried the hikes (guided or not) offered by the lodge?
There’s still half a day to fill when we’re in Hout Bay—any ideas (not necessarily hikes)?
Lastly, regarding safety: the French foreign ministry (always alarmist, but still) recommends hiking in groups. Is it really risky in broad daylight? (I’m not sure a group of two women counts as a "group"…)
Thanks in advance for your answers, ideas, and comments!
Question: we’re doing a 3-week trip in Namibia, including 5 days for Victoria Falls.
I’ve booked one night in Brandberg, and then I have some questions.
I was thinking of spending 2 nights in Palmwag, then heading to Etosha for one night in Okaukuejo and then 2 nights in Halali.
Alternatively, from Brandberg, I could book a night near Galton Gate and then enter Etosha.
I’m not really sure about the distances, especially with a 4x4.
Same for the return trip: Halali to Windhoek seems long. Maybe it’d be smart to break it up on the way back? (We have 2 days to get back if needed.) If so, where?
Jambo! I organized my trip through this kind of group, so I thought I’d share my experience here. We traveled as a group of four, including two kids aged 9 and 11. After requesting around twenty quotes, I decided to book the safari portion with MAKING MEMORIES IN AFRICA. Ally responded quickly and listened to all my requests—unlike other agencies—such as having a French-speaking guide, the order of park visits (Tarangire, Manyara, Serengeti, then Ngorongoro), and a mix of budget hotels and camping to keep costs down. There were still four agencies in the running, and price was the deciding factor. Even though they were the cheapest, I felt better taken care of than with others. For example, all meals were prepared by a Maasai chef, Louis, who accompanied us throughout the trip, while some others ate meals out of cardboard boxes. Samuel, our guide, explained so many things and answered all our questions. José drove us safely the whole way. Everything was done with great cheer!
At the end of the stay, Ally came to meet us and gave us t-shirts with the agency’s logo—we loved that they took the time to hear our feedback in person. In short, I highly recommend them +++, especially since it’s a local agency that also supports a charity for women and children.
For Zanzibar, I organized everything myself. I hesitated for a long time but eventually booked all four nights at the same place. We don’t like crowds, so I initially considered Jambiani but ended up choosing EVERGREEN BUNGALOWS in Bwejuu. We took their first airport-to-hotel transfer since we arrived at night, and it felt safer. Great value for money, in our opinion. Just be aware that it’s quite isolated—perfect for relaxing and going on excursions. There were very few beach vendors, unlike what I’d read about Zanzibar. We lived with our feet in the sand from morning to night, with a small basin of water outside our room to rinse off. Such a lovely spot!
I had asked for some excursion prices before leaving but ended up booking on-site. Not at our hotel, but at a nearby restaurant that was cheaper. After some thought, since we were based in Bwejuu, I wanted to do Blue Lagoon and Pungume (both departing from the south of Zanzibar).
Blue Lagoon: About 3 hours total, with snorkeling on a small reef full of fish (coral wasn’t great) and a stop at a spot with tons of starfish, plus local snacks, fruit, and drinks.
Pungume: An amazing day with a 50% chance of seeing dolphins (we missed them), a visit to the mangroves, then snorkeling at a spot with some nice coral and, of course, fish. We ended with a fantastic grill (tuna, shrimp, squid, lobster, and fries) on a sandbank in the shade.
Finally, before heading to Stone Town, we visited Paje Cave, which is much less known than Maalum. It’s smaller, but we saw bats, went for a swim, and fed the chickens and rabbits (great for the kids). To finish, we explored Stone Town on our own and had dinner at Forodhani Market.
For flights, we flew with Turkish Airlines from Barcelona to Kilimanjaro and back from Zanzibar—no issues there. However, I don’t recommend the Kilimanjaro-Zanzibar leg with Precision Air. Our luggage didn’t arrive, and according to the hotel, this happens often. We only got it back a day and a half later.
March or May 2027.
Around 15 days in the Western Cape,
then 15 days in the southern KNP.
Arrival either in PE or George.
The pros know I’m somewhat familiar with the area... that I don’t camp... that my accommodations can be simple and remote, self-catering but with basic comforts... that I’m looking for spots that are a bit off the beaten path... in a relaxed mode...
From George:
Late arrival... need some rest... Herolds Bay from George to the N1.
Tsitsikamma is catching my eye (Storms River)... with or without a stop in Knysna.
Question:
What’s the current condition of the pass from Knysna to Uniondale? R339.
And while I’m at it, the condition of the R340.
Tsitsikamma, Knysna, and my questions still apply if arriving in PE.
Is the Swartberg still closed?
Any recommendations for accommodation in Prince Albert?
If I cross the escarpment, I’ll continue via Anysberg NR, Touwsrivier... any thoughts?
From there... Tankwa Karoo or Mount Cedar (or both).
Then heading back down to the coast... the highlands of Hermanus or Kogelberg NR (any opinions on the latter?).
Or,
A more classic route along the coast...
If I arrive (fairly late) in PE... any ideas for accommodation in that little area?
Given that Nyathi Camp is winking at me...
(For context... a while back, I stayed at Riverbend (same Addo sector, private concession)... and I visited the ruins of that abandoned lodge at the time, which has clearly been renovated since... located in a very quiet part of Addo...).
Any feedback from the pros?
Well, that’s about it...
I’m open to any other tips or advice!
I’m reaching out with a question about which park to choose for a 3-day safari in Kenya.
After 20 days in Uganda, I’m meeting up with my dad for a 3-day safari (that works for him). We’ll be meeting in Nairobi and have a full day to travel to a park (preferably the farthest from Nairobi to avoid crowds?) and spend 4 nights there before heading back to the capital for our flight to France.
I’d love to hear your recommendations since I’ve read so many great tips on this forum.
At the end of July, we’re heading to Namibia with a group of five for a three-week road trip and visit to the national parks.
We’ve read conflicting info about buying entry tickets—either online (where?) or at the gate when we arrive?
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old.
We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions:
- How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?).
- Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice.
- I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that.
- Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas!
Gabriel
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg.
This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights).
D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights)
Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai).
D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights).
D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE).
D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6.
If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too.
Thanks! 🙂
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland.
Could you share any tips on:
- the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar)
- your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours
- reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Hi everyone, I’m here to get some advice on visiting KRUGER Park.
From what I’ve gathered through my reading, I understand there are two ways to visit the park:
- Independently with your own vehicle
=> Do you drive all day?
- By booking with a professional
=> Safari early in the morning and late in the afternoon. But what do you do in between?
When it comes to accommodations, the options are:
- Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional
- Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive
- Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me.
Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works...
Thanks to everyone for your help.
Bidule 27
Hey everyone!
Heading to Namibia in a few days and I just read that the entry fees for all parks in Namibia have skyrocketed. Increases between 86 and 100%, and this has been in effect since April 1st (no joke). Have any of you heard about this, and if so, do you know if it’s actually being enforced?
For example, the fee for Etosha has gone from 150 NAD to 280 NAD per day per person.
Thanks in advance!
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature.
😊🦁
We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa?
As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult?
We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :)
We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend.
See you on the road with Doddy
Hi,
I’m starting to plan a great trip for the last three weeks of January 2027 (my first time in South Africa).
After spending a few hours (!) browsing this forum, here’s a rough first draft of my itinerary:
D0 Arrival at JNB
D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon
D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger
D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area
D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route)
D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this:
- Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective.
First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...).
That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on.
The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start...
During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.)
The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance.
Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page).
Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water),
– Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places,
– Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly,
– One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
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Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored:
– services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water),
– hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments,
– visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly,
– one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment.
To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone.
Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Hello,
With so many agencies out there, we're feeling a bit lost. Could you please share your experience—like recommending your agency if you were happy with them—and tell us why, and if possible, what budget we should expect? Feel free to send it in a private message :)
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Hi there,
I’ve reached out to a few agencies for a week-long family safari next summer before heading to Zanzibar.
So far, the itinerary looks like this:
Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha
Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire
Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu
Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro
Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera
Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo
Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera
Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking:
Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha
Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?)
Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire
Day 4: Full day in Tarangire
Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu
Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro
Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO
Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome...
Thanks
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.