Préparant mon futur voyage en Afrique du Sud, je sollicite vos avis d'experts pour l'itinéraire suivant (sur une partie de notre séjour):
04 avril
Arrivée Johannesburg - nuit à côté de l'aéroport
05 avril
Départ le sud du kruger avec arrêt crocodile bridge
06 avril
Partie sud - Nuit Crocodile ou Lower saBi
07 avril
De crocodile/lower sabi à satara
08 avril
De satara à Shindzela (réserve privée timbavati)
09 avril
Shindzelo - olifant
10 avril
Olifant puis sortie pour Blyde Canyon
11 avril
Avion port élisabeth ou le Cap
Qu'en pensez-vous ? Nous voulions prendre le temps dans le Krüger, cela est-il réussi ou encore trop speed ?
La nuit à shindzela pour faire une guided tour vous semble approprié ou cela est-il plus pertinent d'aller dans une réserve privée à côté du Krüger ?
Vous dites Shindzela dans Timbavati. Vous serez donc dans une réserve privée (Timbavati) dans une concession de cette réserve privée (Shindzela).
Je ne comprends donc pas la question:
"La nuit à shindzela pour faire une guided tour vous semble approprié ou cela est-il plus pertinent d'aller dans une réserve privée à côté du Krüger ?"
A Shindzela vous aurez 1 game drive le soir (départ vers 15 h ?) et un game drive matinal (départ vers 6h et retour vers 9h) . Dans cette réserve.
J'aime cette réserve, très wild, qui borde sans barrière le Krüger. Donc pour moi, c'est un bon choix.
Attention il faut sortir du Krüger ( a priori par Orpen), remonter par Hoedspruit et revenir vers la gate de Timbavati...Attention à la durée de ce trajet.
Il n'y a pas possibilité de rejoindre Shindzela directement du Krüger !
Votre parcours vous ferait donc sortir du Krüger en partant de Satara...attention il y a du chemin et vous devez arriver à Shindzela avant le départ du game drive (trajet Satara, sortie du Krüger, route vers la gate de Timbavati + 1 petite heure pour rejoindre Shindzela).
Et après... Rebelote dans l'autre sens pour revenir dans le Krüger pour rejoindre Olifant.
A mons sens, vous faites erreur.
Si vous voulez aller à Shindzela, faites le mais en sortant définitivement du Krüger. Soit Satara, Olifant, sortie Krüger pour Shindzela puis Blyde...en sortant de Timbavati vous passer par Hoedspruit, porte d'entrée de la Blyde.
Merci pour cette réponse détaillée Michel ! Effectivement, je n'avais pas saisi ce détail pour l'entrée à Shindzela. Ça change effectivement l'ordre de notre parcours. Je vais voir les chambres qu'il reste pour voir si nous pouvons y aller en sortant du parc.
Pour le reste, est-ce que ça vaut le coup de remonter jusqu'au Olifant ? 5 jours de Krüger est-ce suffisant selon vous ?
Et pour notre arrivée, plutôt Lower Sabi ou crocodile ? Nous avions peur que ça fasse un trop long trajet Johannesburg jusqu'au Lower Sabi, qu'en pensez-vous ?
Il existe quatre gros camps au sud : lower sabie, Berg en dal, skukuza et Pretoriuskop.
Skukuza est une grosse usine, Lower sabie un peu moins.
Pretoriuskop n'est pas dans un secteur approprié pour plusieurs nuits d'affilé.
Berg en dal est bien situé point de vue animaux et raisonnable fréquenté par les humains. C'est le camp le plus proche de Joburg.
En plus , il existe crocodile bridge (pas de restaurant) et le nec plus ultra est le petit bush camp de Biyamiti ( pas de restaurant pas de boutiques, interdit à ceux qui n'y dorment pas).
Ok super ! Merci Michel ! On garde donc Olifant pour la fin et on garde les 5 jours. On adore la nature et on est dingue des animaux donc je pense que ça va être bien de prendre le temps :)
On va finalement inverser notre séjour et finir par le Kruger.
Cela fera :
- arrivée du cap - départ pour Crocodile ou Biyamati si place
- journée dans le sud et nuit à crocodile ou Biyamati (pour faire deux nuits au même endroit)
- on remonte - nuit à tamboti ou satara - un avis ?
- nuit à tamboti ou Satara
- nuit à Olifant
- réserve privée de Shindzela
- game du matin puis reste de la journée autour de Blyde canyon - nuit Graskop (ou autre mieux ?)
- retour vers Joh pour avion le soir (et arrêt en chemin, des idées ? )
Je vais alors éviter les usines, je n'aime pas trop les humains :-p
On va alors réfléchir entre crocodile / berg en dal / biyamiti (mais je crois qu'il n'y a plus de place pour nos dates) pour notre arrivée dans le coin.
Pour le choix des camps du Krüger Mme Attila donnera une réponse plus fiable que la mienne
Idée sur le retour
Un stop à Dulstroom
Pour loger du côté de la Blyde
Selon le budget
hippo hollow à Hazyview
Chesnut lodge pas loin
Thaba Tsweni plus haut
Si budget Ikhetla lodge
J'aurais peut-être organisé mon voyage autrement : Jnb, Blyde River Canyon, Shindzela où il est impératif d'arriver aux alentours de 14 h 00/14 h 30 pour embarquer sur la game-drive, Kruger park puis vol au départ de Nelspruit vers le Cap, destination qui offre plus d'intérêts que la quelconque ville de Port-Elizabeth (ce n'est que mon avis).
Pour compléter les infos de Michel avec qui je suis tout à fait d'accord : Shindzela est un très bel endroit où en plus des game-drives on peut se balader (émotion assurée si le groupe est restreint). Il n'existe pas de chemin reliant ce camp au réseau de pistes du Kruger, bien que cette dernière soit limitrophe avec le parc et sans clôture.
De Blyde River Resort près des 3 rondavels à Hoedspruit, nous avons roulé 1 h 45 pour environ 140 km, peu d'intérêt à part les premiers km dans le Drakensberg et aux abords d'Abel Erasmus Pass. De cette ville sans attrait sinon pour les courses et le carburant, nous avons mis environ 1 h 50 mais le dernier tronçon a été assez lent car nous avons rencontré des animaux, notamment des éléphants au milieu de la piste (il y a 27 km pour Erkhulu Gate où il faut montrer patte blanche puis 31 jusqu'à la réception de Shindzela).
Pour le retour, nous avons emprunté le même chemin jusqu'à Hoedspruit et parcouru 60 km jusqu'à Orpen Gate, il reste 7 km pour arriver au camp, guère plus d'une heure depuis la ville.
Nous avons continué vers Satara pour notre première étape, environ 45 km au pas lent du musard (3 h 00), en raison de belles rencontres.
Nous sommes restés 6 jours dans la partie sud du parc où nous avons pris beaucoup de plaisir et d'intérêt, en tout premier autour de Berg-en-Dal, mais Letaba ou Lower-Sabie sont bien situés (il y avait peu de monde début mars). Sommes passés à Skukuza, assez chargé malgré la basse saison, je n'ose pas imaginer aux autres dates : vite fuyons !
La découverte de la région de Blyde River Canyon demande au minimum une journée entière, une et demi à deux si on veut profiter de chaque site et davantage si on désire marcher un peu dans de somptueux décors.
Merci pour ce retour détaillé Jacky, c'est précieux pour organiser les trajets entre les différents sites ! Nous avions regardé les avions depuis Hoedspruit et c'était hors de prix donc nous avons enlevé cette option que nous aurions peut-être dû considérer plus longtemps ...
Malheureusement nous nous sommes lancés dans les réservations depuis quelques jours et voici ce que ça donne
Joh - crocodile bridge lodge
visite du sud Krüger - crocodile bridge lodge
remontée jusqu'au camp de Talamati
visite des environs de talamati jusqu'au Olifants si possible pour voir la vue - nuit Talamati (plus de nuit avec vue à Olifants malheureusement)
visite le matin puis sortie à Orpen - direction Shindzela
game du matin puis direction Africa on foot dans la réserve de Klaserie pour un nouveau game
game du matin puis départ pour Blyde Canyon puis nuit dans les environs (Dullstroom sera trop loin donc je vais reprendre les conseils qu'on m'a et le guide pour voir ce qui serait le mieux)
retour vers Joh avec plusieurs arrêts en chemin
J'espère que c'est cohérent 😏
Maintenant, plus qu'à organiser le début du voyage au cap !
Pas grand chose de très intéressant à voir entre le Petit Drakensberg et Johannesburg, mis à part Dullstroom, il vaut mieux profiter au maximum de la beauté des paysages autour de Blyde River Canyon.
Il y a pas mal d'hôtels ou B&B sympas à Graskop où il peut faire très froid, même en été (expérience en mars dernier).
Pour info, nous sommes sortis du Kruger à Malelane pour rejoindre Hartbeespoort dans le Magaliesberg (nord-ouest de Jnb) sans rouler comme des forcenés en 5 h 30 avec arrêt casse-croûte et un petit détour dans Prétoria pour 450 km.
Ce qui correspond grosso-modo à un trajet Graskop/OR Tambo à l'est de la grande mégalopole.
Johburg - kruger
nuit Crocodile bridge lodge
sud kruger
Crocodile bridge lodge
sud kruger
Talamati bush camp
centre kruger
Talamati bush camp
centre kruger
réserve privée Africa on foot
centre kruger
réserver privée Shindzela tenter camp
Je pense qu'on prend ainsi le temps, ça me paraît pas mal !
Je suis maintenant en train de penser l'avant Krüger et malgré des heures de lectures des anciennes discussions et du lonely, je n'arrive pas à ma décider... j'ai pourtant des années de peaufinage d'itinéraire derrière moi mais l'AF me coince un peu, trop de possibilités !
Nous arrivons de France jusqu'à Johburg le soir. Nous comptons dormir proche de l'aéroport puis reprendre un vol interne le lendemain matin tôt pour la région du cap. Nous avons donc 7 jours avant de reprendre un vol interne le 8e jour pour Johburg ou Nelspruit en fonction du budget qu'il nous reste.
Petite précision, j'aime de plus en plus prendre le temps (relativement, je suis quand même une hyperactive :-p). Donc passer dans un coin pour le visiter à moitié ça me gonfle. C'est pour ça que je n'ai pas très envie de passer rapidement dans le Swaziland ou le drakensberg qui pourtant me tentait beaucoup. Je préfère revenir et faire 15 jours dans cette partie là.
Nous tenions à prendre le temps au Kruger, il me semble que c'est ce que nous avons fait. Et nous aimons beaucoup les côtés océaniques donc nous voulions faire le tour par le Cap. J'ai envie de prendre le temps de bien visite la zone du Cap.
Plusieurs questions restent sans réponse pour le moment, si vous aviez des pistes ?
1) en 7 jours, cela vaut-il le coup d'atterrir à PE pour visiter le le petit karoo, traverser garden road ou cela est justement trop speed ?
2) si ça ne vaut pas le coup, comment répartir les 7 jours dans le cap ? J'avais pensé 2 jours dans la ville du Cap (Max, on n'est pas trop villes), 2 jours dans la zone du cap de bonne espérance avec éventuellement une nuit vers la pointe pour profiter d'un lodge avec une belle vue (ça existe?), 2 jours dans la région des vignobles + 1 jour où
3) vaut-il mieux rester 5 jours dans la région du Cap et revenir un peu plus tôt vers le kruger pour faire des choses dans les environs avant d'entamer les safaris ?
4) j'avais pensé peut-être faire la randonnée de la Cap of Good Hope sur 2 jours, des retours ? des avis ?
Quand on dit CT il ne faut pas considérer que c’est la ville uniquement
CT itself c’est une journée
La péninsule une autre
Lions head Table Mountain Boo Kap une troisième
Waterfront Robben et de quatre
Un tour dans la région des vins en voilà cinq
Reste?
La côte Ouest
Cap columbine Paternoster le West coast NP
Un saut jusqu’à Agulhas De Hoop
Et on a oublié le Cederberg
Programme tranquille dans le Kruger Park, ça me semble très bien !
Pour la suite en 7 jours : revenir de PE en visitant le Petit Karoo, me paraît un peu rapide pour une flâneuse, mais peut-être en partant de Georges, moins éloignée de la péninsule : Oudtshoorn, Meiringspoort, Prince Albert, Swartberg, Kuisrivier, Calitzdorp, Seweweekspoort, Montagu, Franschhoek et le Cap où il ne te restera que la Duty Free de l'aéroport à visiter.
Sinon autour du Cap, le programme proposé par Michel est très bien sauf qu'a près Le Cap et ses environs proches (1 jour sur la Table incluant une belle balade, 1 jour pour les 2 caps, 1 jour en ville et 1 dans les vignobles), il ne reste que 3 jours, il faudra donc faire un choix entre Cape Columbine, Cape Agulhas, De Hoop NR et le Cederberg, les deux derniers étant un peu éloignés de la ville, mais de loin les plus intéressants surtout le Cederberg, qui mérite qu'on s'y attarde un peu, en raison de la beauté et de la diversité de ses sites.
Je me suis un peu baladé autour du Cap mais n'est pas suivi la randonnée de 2 jours sur Cape of Good Hoop mais tu peux emprunter le sentier qui relie les 2 pointes (2 heures A&R + nombreux arrêts car le paysage est saisissant : on monte d'abord pour n'avoir qu'à redescendre au retour, c'est à dire Bonne Espérance/Cape Point/Bonne Espérance) puis celui qui va vers Cape Point sous le phare (1 h 30 A&R), tu auras un fantastique aperçu de ce magnifique endroit. Il y a d'autres sentiers dans le fynbos aux alentours du site où tu peux flâner à ta guise et croiser autruches, élans, gnous, zèbres et autres, assez peu farouches mais aussi des vipères heurtantes !
Tu peux aussi te contenter du Cap et rester 2 jours autour de Graskop et de Blyde River Canyon, que je ne vois plus dans ton dernier itinéraire.
Quant aux vols entre Le Cap et Nelspruit, ils sont légèrement moins chers , plus fréquents mais aussi beaucoup plus longs si tu passes par Jnb. De mémoire pour un vol direct, 20/30 € plus élevé mais gain de temps très appréciable.
Comme tu reviendras en Afrique du Sud, tu pourras rester dans le Drakensberg puis redescendre vers Eastern et Western Cape : il y a de quoi s'occuper tranquillement.
Bien cordialement.
Jacky.
Quand on dit CT il ne faut pas considérer que c’est la ville uniquement
CT itself c’est une journée
La péninsule une autre
Lions head Table Mountain Boo Kap une troisième
Waterfront Robben et de quatre
Un tour dans la région des vins en voilà cinq
Reste?
La côte Ouest
Cap columbine Paternoster le West coast NP
Un saut jusqu’à Agulhas De Hoop
Et on a oublié le Cederberg
Y’a de quoi faire
Merci pour les détails Michel, je pense qu'effectivement on va conserver nos 7 jours dans la région du Cap parce qu'il y a de quoi faire + Krüger et nous reviendrons pour faire swaziland, drakensberg, santa lucia etc sur un autre voyage :)
Bonsoir Jacky et merci pour toutes tes explications, c'est génial, je commence à y voir plus clair ! Comme je le disais à Michel et comme tu le suggères très justement, nous aurons bien le loisir de revenir en AF et prendre le temps pour faire toutes les belles choses que n'aurons pas eu le temps de voir. Nous allons donc rester 7 jours autour du CAP et profiter de cette région + Krüger. Je suis en train de continuer mes lectures à propos de Cape Columbine, Cape Agulhas, De Hoop NR et le Cederberg pour pouvoir décider ce qui serait le mieux, sans pour autant courir.
Mon programme s'affine tout doucement grâce à vous tous, un grand merci !
In Nov./Dec. 2022, I went on a safari in the region and we suffered from the extreme temperatures caused by the "El Niño" phenomenon in the Indian Ocean at that time. On top of the extreme heat, there can be torrential rains, flooding, etc., which have led to disasters with casualties.
Hi everyone!
I’m still planning my Cape Town to Johannesburg trip in January 2027.
I saw a documentary about the San people in Namibia, and the same day, I stumbled upon the Lonely Planet page about !Kwah Ttu.
I checked out their website to learn more, including Michel’s travel journal about it. I’m really keen to go.
So, I’m thinking of dedicating:
- either 1 day out of the 4.5 I have in Cape Town...
- or making a detour to !Kwah Ttu on the day I leave Cape Town for Montagu, instead of visiting Franschhoek and its Saturday market...
To the VFers who’ve already been: is it really worth spending a day there?
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
Malijp
Hello everyone!
It's been a year since I've been longing for South Africa. Our first trip in August 2025 amazed us, and—rarely—it was a unanimous hit with our little family! We were touched to the core, and from the moment we got home, we couldn’t stop talking about going back. 😄
I’d like to take this opportunity to thank everyone who gave me advice on the itinerary for that first trip (Johannesburg loop: Blyde, Kruger, Eswatini, St. Lucia, Durban, Drakensberg)! Thanks to you, our trip went like a dream!
Since then, I haven’t stopped reading articles and discussions on VoyageForum to keep my head in South Africa a little longer!
So, we finally caved and just booked our tickets for January 2027 (from the 3rd to the 26th), with a plan to do a road trip from Cape Town to Johannesburg in about 3 weeks.
I’ve got a rough itinerary that seems great based on what I’ve read on various forums, but there are still some uncertain points, and that’s where I could use your advice.
3/01: Arrival in Johannesburg at 11:45 PM
4/01: Flight to Cape Town, pick up rental car. Afternoon sightseeing
5,6,7/01: Cape Town to visit the big classics in the area (any tips for finding accommodation: which neighborhood, a specific place?)
8/01: Overnight stop before Oudtshoorn—but where??? (Is it essential, or is the CT-Oudtshoorn drive manageable? If so, I’d gain a day in Oudtshoorn. Google Maps shows over 5 hours of driving...)
9,10/01: Oudtshoorn (or would 3 nights be better to really enjoy the area?)
11,12/01: Knysna, Plettenberg Bay (to have time for hiking—if you’ve got hiking tips, I’m all ears!)
13,14/01: Tsitsikamma (still to have time for hiking—who knows the must-do hikes in the area? But maybe 4 nights in the Knysna-Tsitsikamma area is too much—I’m not sure)
16,17/01: Addo Elephant (I’m torn between 3 nights at Addo or 3 nights at Mountain Zebra. Based on travel journals, especially Michel’s on MZ, I’ve scheduled 3 nights at MZ 😄...)
18,19,20/01: Mountain Zebra NP
21/01: Camdeboo NP (because it looks so beautiful!)
22/01: Overnight stop (where?) before wrapping up the trip with either 2 or 3 nights at Golden Gate NP or the Lesotho option, which appeals to me, but I don’t know if it’s doable in 3 days to be back in Johannesburg by the afternoon of the 26th.
That’s my trip idea for now...
I’m eagerly waiting for your advice, ideas, and comments...
Can’t wait to be back there again!
We're heading to South Africa for a month with 5 adults.
We'd like to rent a vehicle that can accommodate 5 people and all our luggage.
We're starting in Cape Town and ending in Johannesburg.
What vehicle would you recommend?
EDITH
Hi there,
I’m planning a gorilla trek in Bwindi, Uganda. I’m torn between the classic option (1 hour with the gorillas) and the habituation trek (4 hours with the gorillas but a more expensive permit). Has anyone done the habituation trek? Both? If so, I’d love to hear your feedback (including on the difficulty).
Thanks
Thirty years ago, I traveled to Zanzibar (Tanzania) with my children. Since I’ve since started a new family, I took the opportunity of a trip to Kenya to bring my new family along: my wife, who’s Kenyan, and my 10-year-old daughter.
Zanzibar has really changed in 30 years.
It’s become the island of taxes.
It all starts upon arrival: I think it’s the only country in the world, besides the visa, where Zanzibar insurance (and no other) is mandatory—it costs 40 €. If you didn’t purchase it before arriving, good luck getting it: the IT systems are unreliable. With a bit of luck, it’ll take at least an hour to process! And of course, this insurance is useless—if you get sick, it’s recommended to use your home country’s insurance because if you use Zanzibar’s, your national insurance won’t cover you anymore.
I wanted to show my daughter the red colobus monkey, which is endemic to Zanzibar. I paid for a tour that was supposed to be all-inclusive. First, we visited a spice farm, where a farm guide took charge of us—meaning commissions were involved, of course! The tour was very good and informative, though. When we arrived at Jenzhi Park (the colobus park), the guide told us he "forgot" there was an entrance fee (50$).
Aware of the system, I decided to book an Ocean Blue tour through the Zanzibar Tourism Office. After two hours of driving, we stopped at a beach—and were left there. No boat was ready to take us. Since my wife speaks Swahili (the language in Zanzibar), after an hour, a captain with his own boat agreed to take us along with his family.
Another attempt. The main attraction in Zanzibar (besides the city) is Changuu, the Prison Island. You have to take a motorboat and pay the captain, which is normal.
But in Zanzibar, to even get on a boat, you first have to pay a tax! Once we arrived at the island, it started all over again! Thirty years ago, access was free, and the entire island (about 1 km²) was open. Today, there’s a small office, and you have to pay a hefty fee to enter. But enter where? A paved path leads to about 15% of the island—the rest is off-limits. In total, I paid 100 € for my wife, daughter, and myself just to visit a tiny portion of the island! Avoid this!
For the rest of our stay, we stayed at a 5-star hotel with golf, horseback riding, tennis courts, evening concerts, etc.—undeniably high-level comfort. One last thing: if you want to rent a car, it’s affordable and useful for exploring the island’s diverse landscapes, but there are speed cameras at every corner on the main roads. The fine is supposedly 100 $, and it’s hard not to get one!
I told you: Zanzibar, the land of taxes. I used to think my country, Belgium, was the tax champion—I’ve found something even better!
I’ve read some travel journals here but I still have a question.
We’re heading to Uganda next February. The gorilla permits are booked, and the flight tickets are sorted too.
My question is about the chimpanzee trek. I’d love to know whether it’s better to book the habituation experience (4 hours) or the standard trek (1 hour).
The price difference isn’t huge, but I keep wondering and I’d hate to miss out on a great experience.
Hi everyone,
We’re revising our travel plans for January 2027. Originally, we were considering Uganda for about 14/15 days, but given the current health situation and the restrictions that might affect my partner, who’s American, we’ve decided to switch to Tanzania instead.
I’m used to traveling in South Africa and organizing my trips myself, but I get the impression that planning a safari in Tanzania is quite different.
I know self-drive isn’t really an option in Tanzania. So my main question is: can you organize your own itinerary and book lodges directly, then hire a local driver-guide? Or is it better to go through a local agency that handles the entire safari?
For the itinerary, which parks would you recommend for a first-time visit in January? Serengeti, Ngorongoro, Tarangire, Manyara, Ruaha, Arusha, Selous…
We’d also like to include Zanzibar to end the trip with a few days at the beach. Over 14/15 days, does that sound realistic or too ambitious?
Finally, for flights, is it better to arrive at Kilimanjaro (JRO) or Dar es Salaam (DAR) based on the itinerary we’re considering?
Thanks in advance for your feedback, especially on the best way to organize the safari and which parks to prioritize in January!
We're now just 5 weeks away from our trip to South Africa 🙂 and *so* excited to explore (just a tiny bit of) this amazing country.
I need to buy some binoculars but have no idea which model to choose. I don’t really know what to look for (and I don’t want to spend too much).
Thanks in advance to anyone who can give me some tips!
We just got back from ten days in Tanzania. We were lucky enough to be guided by Gishaman. Always in a great mood, a good driver, and an excellent guide. Thanks to him, we not only saw the Big Five in one day but also loads of other animals. He works for the local agency Blit Safaris, which provided excellent support throughout our trip. Highly recommended!
I’m planning a potential trip to Namibia for a classic circuit in April 2027.
I’m surprised by how expensive the accommodations inside the parks are—really steep! Is it possible to stay outside the parks but still close enough to enjoy the game drives?
Do you have any recommendations for more reasonably priced lodging? I’m okay with spending 200 to 250 € per night.
No camping—the friend I’m traveling with absolutely refuses 😉, but maybe upgraded tents would work.
Hi, I'm looking for information on the road conditions in Moremi. We're leaving in 15 days, and from what I've heard, the roads are pretty tough to drive on. Any advice?
Thanks
My trip to South Africa is getting closer (still 2 months to go 😏), and I’m diving back into my itinerary: from Saturday to the following Sunday around Cape Town, then from Sunday to the following Saturday in Kruger.
For Cape Town, the plan was to avoid changing accommodation every day (we’ll do enough of that in the second part) but still see different landscapes.
I know, I’m missing out on a lot, but you’ve got to make choices, and after all this time, I know what I like—and especially what I don’t (or like less) 😉
Here’s the breakdown:
Arrival Saturday at 11 AM: heading to Hermanus (2 nights). The idea is to stroll along the cliff path in the afternoon, and possibly drive to the Klein River Lagoon. Sunday: Stony Point, then depending on time and weather, a hike in Kogelberg Nature Reserve or Fernkloof Nature Reserve (which seems less scenic but has shorter walks).
Monday: drive to Franschhoek (1 night). If everything lines up, a hike in Jonkershoek NR and a visit to a wine estate.
Tuesday: drive to Mountceder Lodge in the Cederberg (2 nights). I’m thinking of visiting the Stadsaal Caves and the elephant paintings, and maybe one of the hikes listed on the lodge’s site or Maltese Cross.
Thursday: heading to Hout Bay for 3 nights. In no particular order: a classic day trip around the peninsula, half a day at Kirstenbosch Gardens, and half a day at Lion’s Head.
Sunday: flight to Johannesburg.
My questions are mostly about (short) hikes:
Has anyone here done hikes in Kogelberg, Fernkloof, or Jonkershoek?
At Mountceder Lodge (Michel, if you’re reading this… 😉), has anyone tried the hikes (guided or not) offered by the lodge?
There’s still half a day to fill when we’re in Hout Bay—any ideas (not necessarily hikes)?
Lastly, regarding safety: the French foreign ministry (always alarmist, but still) recommends hiking in groups. Is it really risky in broad daylight? (I’m not sure a group of two women counts as a "group"…)
Thanks in advance for your answers, ideas, and comments!
Question: we’re doing a 3-week trip in Namibia, including 5 days for Victoria Falls.
I’ve booked one night in Brandberg, and then I have some questions.
I was thinking of spending 2 nights in Palmwag, then heading to Etosha for one night in Okaukuejo and then 2 nights in Halali.
Alternatively, from Brandberg, I could book a night near Galton Gate and then enter Etosha.
I’m not really sure about the distances, especially with a 4x4.
Same for the return trip: Halali to Windhoek seems long. Maybe it’d be smart to break it up on the way back? (We have 2 days to get back if needed.) If so, where?
Jambo! I organized my trip through this kind of group, so I thought I’d share my experience here. We traveled as a group of four, including two kids aged 9 and 11. After requesting around twenty quotes, I decided to book the safari portion with MAKING MEMORIES IN AFRICA. Ally responded quickly and listened to all my requests—unlike other agencies—such as having a French-speaking guide, the order of park visits (Tarangire, Manyara, Serengeti, then Ngorongoro), and a mix of budget hotels and camping to keep costs down. There were still four agencies in the running, and price was the deciding factor. Even though they were the cheapest, I felt better taken care of than with others. For example, all meals were prepared by a Maasai chef, Louis, who accompanied us throughout the trip, while some others ate meals out of cardboard boxes. Samuel, our guide, explained so many things and answered all our questions. José drove us safely the whole way. Everything was done with great cheer!
At the end of the stay, Ally came to meet us and gave us t-shirts with the agency’s logo—we loved that they took the time to hear our feedback in person. In short, I highly recommend them +++, especially since it’s a local agency that also supports a charity for women and children.
For Zanzibar, I organized everything myself. I hesitated for a long time but eventually booked all four nights at the same place. We don’t like crowds, so I initially considered Jambiani but ended up choosing EVERGREEN BUNGALOWS in Bwejuu. We took their first airport-to-hotel transfer since we arrived at night, and it felt safer. Great value for money, in our opinion. Just be aware that it’s quite isolated—perfect for relaxing and going on excursions. There were very few beach vendors, unlike what I’d read about Zanzibar. We lived with our feet in the sand from morning to night, with a small basin of water outside our room to rinse off. Such a lovely spot!
I had asked for some excursion prices before leaving but ended up booking on-site. Not at our hotel, but at a nearby restaurant that was cheaper. After some thought, since we were based in Bwejuu, I wanted to do Blue Lagoon and Pungume (both departing from the south of Zanzibar).
Blue Lagoon: About 3 hours total, with snorkeling on a small reef full of fish (coral wasn’t great) and a stop at a spot with tons of starfish, plus local snacks, fruit, and drinks.
Pungume: An amazing day with a 50% chance of seeing dolphins (we missed them), a visit to the mangroves, then snorkeling at a spot with some nice coral and, of course, fish. We ended with a fantastic grill (tuna, shrimp, squid, lobster, and fries) on a sandbank in the shade.
Finally, before heading to Stone Town, we visited Paje Cave, which is much less known than Maalum. It’s smaller, but we saw bats, went for a swim, and fed the chickens and rabbits (great for the kids). To finish, we explored Stone Town on our own and had dinner at Forodhani Market.
For flights, we flew with Turkish Airlines from Barcelona to Kilimanjaro and back from Zanzibar—no issues there. However, I don’t recommend the Kilimanjaro-Zanzibar leg with Precision Air. Our luggage didn’t arrive, and according to the hotel, this happens often. We only got it back a day and a half later.
March or May 2027.
Around 15 days in the Western Cape,
then 15 days in the southern KNP.
Arrival either in PE or George.
The pros know I’m somewhat familiar with the area... that I don’t camp... that my accommodations can be simple and remote, self-catering but with basic comforts... that I’m looking for spots that are a bit off the beaten path... in a relaxed mode...
From George:
Late arrival... need some rest... Herolds Bay from George to the N1.
Tsitsikamma is catching my eye (Storms River)... with or without a stop in Knysna.
Question:
What’s the current condition of the pass from Knysna to Uniondale? R339.
And while I’m at it, the condition of the R340.
Tsitsikamma, Knysna, and my questions still apply if arriving in PE.
Is the Swartberg still closed?
Any recommendations for accommodation in Prince Albert?
If I cross the escarpment, I’ll continue via Anysberg NR, Touwsrivier... any thoughts?
From there... Tankwa Karoo or Mount Cedar (or both).
Then heading back down to the coast... the highlands of Hermanus or Kogelberg NR (any opinions on the latter?).
Or,
A more classic route along the coast...
If I arrive (fairly late) in PE... any ideas for accommodation in that little area?
Given that Nyathi Camp is winking at me...
(For context... a while back, I stayed at Riverbend (same Addo sector, private concession)... and I visited the ruins of that abandoned lodge at the time, which has clearly been renovated since... located in a very quiet part of Addo...).
Any feedback from the pros?
Well, that’s about it...
I’m open to any other tips or advice!
I’m reaching out with a question about which park to choose for a 3-day safari in Kenya.
After 20 days in Uganda, I’m meeting up with my dad for a 3-day safari (that works for him). We’ll be meeting in Nairobi and have a full day to travel to a park (preferably the farthest from Nairobi to avoid crowds?) and spend 4 nights there before heading back to the capital for our flight to France.
I’d love to hear your recommendations since I’ve read so many great tips on this forum.
At the end of July, we’re heading to Namibia with a group of five for a three-week road trip and visit to the national parks.
We’ve read conflicting info about buying entry tickets—either online (where?) or at the gate when we arrive?
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old.
We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions:
- How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?).
- Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice.
- I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that.
- Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas!
Gabriel
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg.
This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights).
D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights)
Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai).
D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights).
D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE).
D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6.
If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too.
Thanks! 🙂
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland.
Could you share any tips on:
- the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar)
- your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours
- reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Hi everyone, I’m here to get some advice on visiting KRUGER Park.
From what I’ve gathered through my reading, I understand there are two ways to visit the park:
- Independently with your own vehicle
=> Do you drive all day?
- By booking with a professional
=> Safari early in the morning and late in the afternoon. But what do you do in between?
When it comes to accommodations, the options are:
- Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional
- Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive
- Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me.
Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works...
Thanks to everyone for your help.
Bidule 27
Hey everyone!
Heading to Namibia in a few days and I just read that the entry fees for all parks in Namibia have skyrocketed. Increases between 86 and 100%, and this has been in effect since April 1st (no joke). Have any of you heard about this, and if so, do you know if it’s actually being enforced?
For example, the fee for Etosha has gone from 150 NAD to 280 NAD per day per person.
Thanks in advance!
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature.
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We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa?
As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult?
We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :)
We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend.
See you on the road with Doddy