Je vais partir cet été avec un ami dans l'ouest des états unis pour réaliser un parcours en voiture de Los Angeles à San Francisco en passant par Las Vegas et quelques parcs nationaux. Voici l'itinéraire que j'ai réalisé :
J1 - Arrivée Los Angeles
J2 – Los Angeles
J3 – Las Vegas - Départ de Los Angeles tôt le matin – Journée et soirée à Las Vegas
J4 – Grand Canyon - Départ de Las Vegas le matin. Arrivée Grand Canyon en milieu d’après midi - Nuit au GC
J5 – Grand Canyon - Visite du Grand canyon toute la journée - Départ pour Page en début de soirée - Nuit à page
J6 - Lake Powell / Antelope Canyon – Départ en fin d’après midi direction Bryce Canyon – Nuit à Bryce
J7 – Bryce canyon - Journée à Bryce - Départ à 20h – Nuit à St Georges
J8 – Valley of fire / Las Vegas - Départ tôt le matin de St Georges – visite de Valley of fire jusqu’en mileu d’apres midi – Soirée à Las Vegas
J9 – Death Valley – Départ de Las Vegas le matin – Visite de Death Valley l’après midi – Nuit à Death Valley
J10 - Death Valley le matin – Départ pour Yosemite – Nuit à Yosemite
J11 – Yosemite – Départ en fin d’après midi – Nuit à San Francisco.
J12 - San Francisco
J13 - San Francisco
J14 – San Francisco – Retour en France
Pensez vous que c'est jouable niveau timing ? Que me conseilleriez vous d'enlever pour allèger l'itinéraire (car je sent que vous allez trouver ça un peu chargé 😛) ?
NB : Nous passons volontairement deux fois à Las Vegas car nous volons y passer deux soirs (surtout le deuxième qui sera le jour de mon anniversaire)
A votre place je prendrais un vol pour Las Vegas directement sans passer par LA ( à moins bien sur que vous ne teniez absolument à y aller).
Cela vous permettrait de gagner 2 jours et d'être un peu moins rapide dans vos visites : j10 à j11 c'est tout simplement pas possible si vous voulez voir quelque chose et si vous voulez sortir de la voiture !!
Globalement en 14 jours vous ne pouvez pas faire tout ce que vous souhaitez, il vous faut faire d'autres choix.
Cordialement,
thierrymanu
Pourquoi passer 2 fois à Las Vegas ?
De tote façon il faut corriger les jours 3 et 4, il y a erreur
Bern
USA 2018 - Arizona, chez les indiens... https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=9061068;#9061068
USA 2014 – Là où vous n'aviez pas pensé aller https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6769327;#6769327
USA 2012 "Au long du Rio Grande" https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=5290732;#5290732
Je vous ai concocté un itinéraire au regard de mes 3 voyages dans l'Ouest :15 jours en 1998,3 semaines en 2000 et 47 jours en 2009. ça vous permet de prendre votre temps. Aux étapes. vous n'avez pas à passer 2 fois au même endroit comme Las Vegas par exemple. Vous pouvez flâner sur la Route 66 dont je vous donnerai le parcours alternatif si vous voulez. A Laughlin qui est une ville du Nevada les hôtels sont pas chers 27$ la nuit pour un hôtel casino palace comme le Golden Nuggets où nous avons dormi à 4 pour 20 €il y a 1 an.
les photos pas dans le même ordre que vous pour le voyage puisque Los Angeles, Sequoia, yosemite Mammoth , Vegas, Laughlin, Grand Canyon et puis après plus au sud et à l'Est pour finir à Yellowstone.
Il y a 2 choses qui ne vont pas. Vs prévoyez de visiter Valley of Fire et Death Valley au moment où il fait le plus chaud (temps de midi).... alors que ds ces 2 parcs, il règne la fournaise (ce n'est pas pour rien que l'un s'appelle "Vallée de feu" et l'autre "Vallée de la mort" 😛)
Ces 2 parcs se visitent soit de bonne heure le matin (jusque 10H), soit en fin de journée (à partir de 16H), avec en plus un sunset qui met les couleurs en valeur🙂
J'ai bien peur qu'en dehors de ces heures, vs ne trouviez ces parcs nettement moins beaux que les commentaires ne le laissent présager !!
Ouest USA 2009 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2800143#2800143
5ème trip USA, 09/2013 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6186946#6186946
Je suis sûre que vous voulez bien faire, mais je pense que vous embrouillez les gens à vouloir trop bien faire... Pourquoi ne pas répondre aux questions plutôt que de balancer un itinéraire qui ne correspond pas aux souhaits de la personne ? (et refourguer à tout le monde le Golden Nugget de Laughlin 😛) Kakine33 dit précisément vouloir passer 2 nuits à Las Vegas (dont celle de son anniversaire) et n'a pas parlé de la route 66. Et le lien de votre itinéraire ne fonctionne pas 😉
Pour Kakine33 : je trouve pour ma part dommage de ne pas faire le crochet jusqu'à Monument Valley. Même si Valley of fire est un joli petit parc, vous y consacrez trop de temps je trouve. Gobalement, je ne trouve pas ça trop chargé 😉
Circuit dans l'Ouest : http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2744058
Floride-Louisiane : http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=3536861
Une semaine à New York : http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=4550454
New York, again http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=5593646
[ A mon humble avis ca ne colle plus à partir de la journée 8
J8 – Valley of fire / Las Vegas - Départ tôt le matin de St Georges – visite de Valley of fire jusqu’en mileu d’apres midi – Soirée à Las Vegas
J9 – Death Valley – Départ de Las Vegas le matin – Visite de Death Valley l’après midi – Nuit à Death Valley
Vs avez une journée de trop à DV . Je sais que je vais me faire incendier par les amateurs de la DV, mais en 14 jours, ca fait perdre trop de temps de passer une nuit à la DV, sauf a faire directement St Georges DV.
J10 - Death Valley le matin – Départ pour Yosemite – Nuit à Yosemite
La ca fait aussi trop rapide. car si vs n'avez pas reservé, vs ne pouvez coucher qu'aux entrées EST OUEST ou sud de YOSEMITE et vs ne verrez rien. Et en plus sur le trajet il y a BODIE.
14 JOURS C EST COURT JE VOUS PROPOSE LE SCHEMA SUIVANT
SFO DEUX JOURS PLEINS
YOSEMITE DEUX JOURS
ALLER DIRECTEMENT A VEGAS C EST LONG MAIS ENVISAGEABLE
LA UN CIRCUIT
GRAN CANYON MONUMENT VALLEY
BRYCE ZION
VOUS DEVEZ ETRE AU 10 E JOUR APRES VEGAS DEUX JOURS ET LOS ANGELES DEUX JOURS
14 jours c'est en effet assez court et si tu veux profiter un peu de ton voyage sans trop avoir à regarder ta montre, je pense qu'il faut bidouiller 1 ou 2 trucs ici où là. 😉
Tout d'abord, on pourrait surement mieux t'aider si on connaisait tes priorités : parcs et randonnées ? villes ? parcs sans rando ?
Quelqu'un a parlé au dessus d'une arrivée à Las Vegas plutôt que Los Angeles. Dans ton cas, je suis d'accord avec ça. Ca te ferait gagner notamment du temps pour Yosemite et alentours (ville fantôme de Bodie qui est à voir !).
Maintenant si tu me dis que tu rêves de passer une journée à Universal Studios... forcément, ça sera plus problématique. 😄
J'adore Los Angeles, mais en même temps, si c'est pour y rester une seule journée, je pense que tu peux grapiller cette journée fin de souffler un peu plus dans ton circuit.
Comme dit plus haut, à Death Valley, il fait très chaud et les meilleures moments pour la découvrir sont l'aurore et le crépuscule. Je fais donc partie des gens qui conseille une nuit sur place.
Je rajouterais également une étape après Death Valley, avant d'entrer dans Yosemite (Lee Vining par exemple.), ça te permettrait de bien profiter de Death Valley le matin puis de rouler sans trop te presser vers le Nord. Tu peux envisager de visiter le Mono Lake et Bodie en arrivant. Et le lendemain tu seras tout frais pour attaquer Yosemite et la Tioga Pass road jusqu'à Yosemite Valley. Cette route est magnifique et à moins d'être insensible aux paysages de montagne (ce dont je doute), tu y feras de nombreux arrêts : petite rando du côté de Tuolumne Meadows, pique-nique au Tenaya Lake, etc...
Bref, il va te falloir faire des choix... je sais, c'est dur... mais on est tous passé par là ! 🙂
A Page, fais plutôt Antelope Canyon en fin de matinée (couleurs bien plus belles) et garde le Lake Powell pour l'après-midi.
Pour Antelope Canyon, il y en a deux :le Lower et l'Upper. Je te conseille le Lower, moins touristique et sans réservation.
Si tous les cons volaient, il ferait nuit. (Frédéric Dard)
En fonction des différentes remarques (bien que les avis de chacun soient très partagés), j'ai modifié mon itinéraire pour l'alèger un peu :
J1 - Arrivée Los Angeles à 9h
J2 – Los Angeles
J3 – Las Vegas - Départ de Los Angeles tôt le matin – Journée et soirée à Las Vegas
J4 – Grand Canyon - Départ de Las Vegas le matin. Arrivée Grand Canyon en milieu d’après midi - Nuit au GC
J5 – Grand Canyon - Visite du Grand canyon toute la journée – Départ direction Bryce en fin de journée – Nuit entre GC et Bryce.
J6 – Arrivée à Bryce en début de matinée – Journée à Bryce – Nuit à Bryce
J7 – Las Vegas – Départ de Bryce fin de matinée – Arrivé à Las Vegas vers 17h
J8 – Death Valley – Départ de Las Vegas vers midi – Visite de Death Valley à partir de 17h – Nuit à Death Valley
J9 – Death Valley jusqu'à 10h – Départ pour Lee Vining – Arrivée à 20h - Nuit à Lee Vining
J10 – Yosemite – Journée entière
J11 – Yosemite – Départ en fin d’après midi – Nuit à San Francisco.
J12 - San Francisco
J13 - San Francisco
J14 – San Francisco – Retour en France
Sinon nous avons déjà réservé depuis quelques semaines la voiture de location que nous prenons à Los Angeles et restituons à San Francisco. Donc impossible d'aller directement à Las Vegas.
Nous arrivons le 1er jour à 9h à Los Angeles, ce qui nous laisse en fait 2 jours quasi complet dans cette ville.
mrspeel, nous n'avons pas de priorité entre villes et parcs. On aimerait faire un peu des deux. En ce qui concerne les randonnées on souhaiterait en faire quelques une sans que celles-ci soient trop longues.
"J5 – Grand Canyon - Visite du Grand canyon toute la journée – Départ direction Bryce en fin de journée – Nuit entre GC et Bryce."
Visite du Grand Canyon jusque midi
Route vers Page, en visitant les points de vue de la rim Grand Canyon côté est , Little Colorado et les étals de bijoux indiens le long de la route
Arrivée à Page (visite de Horseshoe Bend 1H + sunset sur le lac Powell)
Nuit à Page
" J6 – Arrivée à Bryce en début de matinée – Journée à Bryce – Nuit à Bryce"
Matin vers 8H: Lower Antelope Canyon (1H30)
Route vers Bryce et visite jusqu'au sunset
" J7 – Las Vegas – Départ de Bryce fin de matinée – Arrivé à Las Vegas vers 17h "
Matin: suite de la visite de Bryce (sunrise + rando ds l'amphithéâtre des hoodoos)
Et si vs acceptez d'arriver à LV vers 20H30 et que vs aimez randonner, allez passer 2H ds Valley of Fire jusqu'au sunset (l'après-midi, il y fait trop chaud et les couleurs des roches sont écrasées sous le soleil).
Ce petit parc est situé 50 Mi avant LV
" J8 – Death Valley – Départ de Las Vegas vers midi – Visite de Death Valley à partir de 17h – Nuit à Death Valley ""
Le trajet LV-Death Valley prend 2H30. Il n'est donc pas nécessaire de quitter LV avant 14H00, sous peine d'arriver ds la Vallée de la Mort au moment où le soleil est au zénith!!
Ouest USA 2009 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2800143#2800143
5ème trip USA, 09/2013 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6186946#6186946
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Hello! The itinerary is pretty much set for August 2026. Yeah, I know it’s gonna be *super* hot. But it’s the only time we can get away.
So, here’s the plan: Montpellier-CDG-Dallas.
Stay from July 31 to August 26, 2026:
Car rental – check,
Hotels – check,
Itinerary – almost check,
Photo gear – check,
Budget – check, 🤪
Meal planning – meh, we’ll see...
Walmart, of course, for the cooler when we arrive.
And now, without too much detail...
Fort Worth:
The Longhorns and the Stockyards;
JR’s ranch (for the missus);
Medal of Honor Museum – Arlington.
Houston and NASA Space Center:
See the Gulf of Mexico/America.
San Antonio and the missions.
Fort Stockton for an overnight stop.
El Paso via Guadalupe Mountains:
El Paso and White Sands.
Tucson and the Pima Air & Space Museum:
Tombstone, Bisbee.
Phoenix:
Still working on the program.
Sedona:
Round trip around the area via Flagstaff and Williams, or the Grand Canyon (already done) – we’ll decide on the spot.
Albuquerque:
Santa Fe,
Turquoise Trail,
Los Alamos.
Amarillo via Route 66:
Old Route 66 in the city;
Big Texas Ranch Steak 😏.
Dallas:
JFK Museum;
Perot Museum;
West End district.
And through it all – the road, the road, and more road!!!
We’ll adapt day by day based on our mental and physical state (we’re not exactly spring chickens).
Hello everyone! Really damaged due to flooding caused by runoff after forest fires (a total mess!), does anyone in this friendly forum have any updates on the Apache Trail between Apache Junction and Roosevelt Dam? Is there still a section of the road that’s tough to navigate?
We're leaving at the end of June and will be driving the route between Buffalo and Cody. We’ve already booked our accommodations and a rodeo in Cody, but during the day, we’ll be driving between the two and I’m unsure about the itinerary.
Which route do you think is the most pleasant, interesting, or scenic between:
- The northern route via Highway 14 with Sheridan, Lowell, etc.
- The southern route with Highways 16/20/14, passing by Loaf Mountain Overlook, Powder River Pass, Ten Sleep Canyon...
We’ll be in a car, so we should be able to drive on any road.
Thanks for your input!
I’m almost done planning our September road trip. After our 3-night visit to Sequoia, we’ll have a stopover night in Coalinga (to break up the drive). We’ll be staying two nights in Monterey and would like to stop along the way to visit one side of Pinnacles National Park. We’re torn between the West entrance and the East entrance, and we’d like to do a short hike of no more than 2 hours since we don’t want to arrive too late in Monterey.
This park is split into two distinct zones with no connection between them, and the mileage from Coalinga to Monterey is pretty much the same for both. Which area do you recommend visiting—east or west? And which route is the most scenic?
I’ve spotted two short hikes:
- East: Moses Spring to Rim Trail Loop
- West: Balconies Cliffs Cave Loop
Has anyone been there, or do you have another hike to suggest?
Thanks in advance, and have a great afternoon!
Marcalamar 🙂
After our first trip as a young couple to the West in 2007 (yes, that doesn’t make us any younger!), we’re planning to go back in 2028, but this time as a family of four! (We have two boys who’ll be 5½ and 13 years old in the summer of 2028.)
Our plan is to combine a few big cities (SF and LA, maybe San Diego) with national parks and state parks, mostly!
Ideally, we’d like to leave at the end of June and head back to France around July 19–20, so we can enjoy the first week of the Olympic Games in Los Angeles.
Since we already did the "loop" in 2007, there are must-see places we absolutely want to revisit—and especially share with our kids: Bryce Canyon, Yosemite, and above all, the Grand Canyon, which is still the most incredible thing I’ve ever seen on Earth!
On the other hand, some places didn’t leave a big impression on us for various reasons, so we’re not making them a priority: Antelope Canyon, Monument Valley, for example.
We’re planning ahead, but might as well be smart about it😏
Do you have any tips for a fun and doable itinerary over about 20–25 days with kids, without rushing?
Hi everyone! 🙂
Just a quick question about King Canyon and Sequoia National Park.
Before our night in Miramonte, we plan to visit King Canyon. The next stop will be two nights in Three Rivers to explore Sequoia National Park. I wanted to go all the way to Roaring River Falls on the King Canyon Scenic Byway and then turn back to head to Miramonte. Since we’re coming from Oakhurst, Google Maps says it’s 300 km and 5 hours of driving. Since we also want to hike to see the sequoias (Big Stump Area and Grand Grove) before tackling the King Canyon Scenic Byway, the timing’s going to be tight. How far do you recommend going before turning back to miss as few points of interest as possible on the King Canyon Scenic Byway? Thanks for your advice, and have a great evening!
Marcalamar 🙂
Hi everyone!
After years of hoping, waiting, planning, then changing, saving, and searching for the best possible route... we're FINALLY off this summer for a 5-week road trip in the West.
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route:
Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles
Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles
Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles
Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles
Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles
Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman
Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon
Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page
Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page
Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley
Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango
Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango
Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango
Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango
Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs
Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs
Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab
Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab
Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab
Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab
Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab
Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal
Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton
Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton
Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody
Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone
Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone
Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone
Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone
Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City
Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon
Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion
Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion
Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion
Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas
Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas
Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles
Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles
Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels
Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
Hello.
I’d like to travel along I-15N from San Diego to Las Vegas with my mom, who’s 67. We’ve explored Northern California and the California Coast over the past two years and now want to continue through the desert.
There are several attractions along the way:
- Mormon Rocks
- Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite
- Joshua Tree National Park
- Mojave Desert
- Mojave National Preserve
- Anza-Borrego Desert State Park
- Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon.
We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre.
Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Hi,
My 16-year-old son is flying to Grand Rapids with other kids his age. There’s a layover in Detroit. There’s no unaccompanied minor service available. Is it pretty easy to navigate Detroit Airport to catch the connecting flight to Grand Rapids (domestic flight)? There are several of them who speak English well.
Thanks for your replies,
Good evening, everyone! 🙂
Just a few last questions to wrap up our Lake Tahoe visit plans.
**Parking:**
We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:**
Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:**
Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Hi there. I'm shocked by the price of the Upper Antelope Canyon tour—$175 for less than an hour… You might say, "if you can’t afford it…" But the real question is whether it’s really worth it, because $350 for two makes me feel like I’m getting ripped off. For those who’ve done both Lower and Upper, can you tell me if the price difference is really justified? Thanks
Hi everyone! 🙂
As you can see, we're heading back from September 6th to the 27th.
Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us.
We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.
Here’s our itinerary:
Day 1: Davis – overnight stop
Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen)
Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes
Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike
Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes)
Day 6: South Lake Tahoe
Day 7: South Lake Tahoe
Day 8: Mammoth Lake
Day 9: Mammoth Lake
Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road
Day 11: El Portal
Day 12: El Portal
Day 13: Oakhurst
Day 14: Miramonte
Day 15: Three Rivers
Day 16: Three Rivers
Day 17: Coalinga
Day 18: Monterey
Day 19: Monterey
Day 20: San Francisco
Day 21: San Francisco
Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned:
Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2)
Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3)
Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4)
Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV?
Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening!
Marcalamar 🙂
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast.
I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October.
My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips.
I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks for advising me on the booking—should I reserve a room in the hotel or go for a cabin for the best view?
Should I get breakfast or not?
What do you think of the restaurant?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas)
T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC)
W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page
Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV)
F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab
Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce
Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion
M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas
Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks...
For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400,
which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.).
Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
Hi everyone, I’m traveling to Los Angeles and would like to rent a vehicle at the airport. However, I have a Boursobank Ultim deferred debit card, so I’d love to know if it’s possible for those who’ve experienced this recently. Thanks for the info!
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels.
Cheers,
Régine
Hi,
I’m planning a road trip through the American national parks starting from Denver in June 2026.
The price of the pass is jumping from 80 € to 250 € on January 1st, 2026!!!
Is it possible to buy the pass online before the end of the year to lock in the 80 € rate? If so, where and how do I go about it?
Thanks for your tips.
Arnale
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense?
Day 1: Orlando
Day 2: Amelia Island
Day 3: Amelia Island
Day 4: Tallahassee
Day 5: Panama City Beach
Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin)
Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way)
Day 8: Crystal River
Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater)
Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete)
Day 11: Anna Maria
Day 12: Orlando
Day 13: Orlando
Day 14: Orlando
Day 15: Departure
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus.
In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!
I’m currently looking for well-located hotels near points of interest in the cities below. I’ve found a few, but the prices are really high.
Could any of you share some great addresses in the following cities?
- Los Angeles
- Las Vegas
- San Francisco
Also, do you have a preferred airline for domestic flights? If so, which one?
