Je roule à l'eau
by Bobmarine1
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour à tous, j'ai découvert un truc sur le net, que je fais faire actuellement par mes mécanos.
C'est un système pour injecter de l'hydrogène dans le carbu ou l'injection, pour économiser entre 40 et 50% de la conso.
Ca marche pour le diesel et pour l'essence.
Regardez:
http://go.bobmarine.voitureh2o.1.1tpe.net
J'en fais fabriquer plusieurs pour mon gros CC, et pour ma voiture
à + bob
bonjour,
j'avais vaguement entendu parler de ça, sympa ce système mais n'y a t'il pas de risque d'abimer le moteur à long terme?
j'avais vaguement entendu parler de ça, sympa ce système mais n'y a t'il pas de risque d'abimer le moteur à long terme?
Aucun risque mon bon viveur de rêve,
Tu prolonge la vie de ton moteur, qui est plus silencieux, moins polluant etc.
De plus, tu espace tes visites chez le mécano.
Tu comprends pourquoi, peut de personne en parle...
C'est réellement le top
à + bob
Bon, OK, mais ce n'est plus du voyage, tout ça, bien que, l'économie dans le voyage reflète toute son importance.
Je ne sais pas si j'ai le droit de proposer un bon truc sur le site.
Dans le doute, passe moi un mail sur; bobmarine3@yahoo.fr.
Je te passerai tous les tuyaux
à + bob
SALUT !!
Il manque quelque chose !!
Pourquoi vendre le bouquin , plutôt de de fabriquer l'ensemble ?? Il manque l'info de l'échappement ... ça dégage un max de chaleur et tout risque de prendre feux , j'ai lu des essais sur tondeuse à gazon, au bout d'une heure , plus possible d'éteindre le moteur, et l'échappement avait presque fondu , c'est plus facile à dire qu'a faire , si c'était si bien ? pourquoi certain récupérerait'il les huiles de friture pour leur vieux diesels, alors que c'est plus facile de récupérer l'eau qui est dans l'air ? Encore un attrape nigots .... et ce n'est ce qui manque, il s'en léve un de plus tout les jours .... Le meilleur c'est celui qui vend du vent (humide) avec ses bouquins Bon courage à ceux qui en feront les frais
Cordialement de PAPY
Il manque quelque chose !!
Pourquoi vendre le bouquin , plutôt de de fabriquer l'ensemble ?? Il manque l'info de l'échappement ... ça dégage un max de chaleur et tout risque de prendre feux , j'ai lu des essais sur tondeuse à gazon, au bout d'une heure , plus possible d'éteindre le moteur, et l'échappement avait presque fondu , c'est plus facile à dire qu'a faire , si c'était si bien ? pourquoi certain récupérerait'il les huiles de friture pour leur vieux diesels, alors que c'est plus facile de récupérer l'eau qui est dans l'air ? Encore un attrape nigots .... et ce n'est ce qui manque, il s'en léve un de plus tout les jours .... Le meilleur c'est celui qui vend du vent (humide) avec ses bouquins Bon courage à ceux qui en feront les frais
Cordialement de PAPY
En Afrique tout est possible, mais rien n'est certain ....!!
http://papyetmamyenvoyage.kazeo.com/
salut,
oui, c'est pas faut... dans tout système il y a des pour et des contre 🤪
(je me renseigne c'est tout)
pour l'huile de friture, je le ferai pas non plus (ou alors en faisant partie d'une assoce qui a le matériel pour)... j'ai un pote qui a flingué son moteur pcq malgrès le fait de filtrer plusieurs fois et avec les filtres de plus en plus fin il reste toujours du sel...
oui, c'est le systeme pantone connu depuis bien des années, le pb c'est que si il n'y a que des tondeuses qui fonctionnent comme ça, il doit y avoir un bug, d'autant que son inventeur est en prison aux usa......
Non, Non, rien à voir avec le système pantone. Ce système à placer sur l'échappement est bien trop difficile à régler, voir impossible
Je système que je fais fabriquer est différent. Il ressemble à un vase d'expension, et est placé sous le capot moteur. Dans le bocal, il y a une petite "machinerie technique" immergée dans de l'eau, préférence distillée, et 2 cuillérées de bicarbonate de soude. Sur le couvercle du bocal, outre les fils + -, il y a un petit tuyau qui va vers le filtre à air. Lorsque vous mettez le contact, les "espèces d'électrodes" transforment l'eau en hydrogène, qui, par le tuyau, va aider à la carburation. C'est en gros, le schéma que j'ai retenu après avoir lu le bouquin. Je ne regrette pas du tout mon achat. C'est pour cela que je veux en faire profiter d'autres personnes, désirant économiser quelques € Si c'était une arnaque, je l'aurai tout aussi bien signalé, mais en alerte rouge pour prévenir tout le monde. à + bob
Je système que je fais fabriquer est différent. Il ressemble à un vase d'expension, et est placé sous le capot moteur. Dans le bocal, il y a une petite "machinerie technique" immergée dans de l'eau, préférence distillée, et 2 cuillérées de bicarbonate de soude. Sur le couvercle du bocal, outre les fils + -, il y a un petit tuyau qui va vers le filtre à air. Lorsque vous mettez le contact, les "espèces d'électrodes" transforment l'eau en hydrogène, qui, par le tuyau, va aider à la carburation. C'est en gros, le schéma que j'ai retenu après avoir lu le bouquin. Je ne regrette pas du tout mon achat. C'est pour cela que je veux en faire profiter d'autres personnes, désirant économiser quelques € Si c'était une arnaque, je l'aurai tout aussi bien signalé, mais en alerte rouge pour prévenir tout le monde. à + bob
Non Papy.
Ce n'est pas le pantone, impossible à régler, à moins d'un coup de peau
C'est un système différent. Un bocal, avec à l'intérieur une sorte de triperie électronique pour fabriquer de l'hydrogène envoyé au filtre à air.
Ce n'est qu'une aide à la carburation
Je fais fabriquer, car je suis nul en électronique et en mécanique. Je préfère avoir des gens compétents pour la réalisation,
Je ne regrette pas mon achat, ce n'est pas une arnaque.
à + bob
SALUT !!
Quand tu auras fini , donne nous de tes nouvelles , pour savoir si ça fonctionne réellement et combien ça coûte ? Je sais que les moteurs tournent mieux les jours de brouillard car air avec humidité de PLUS de 60% , mais faire des économies de carburant de plus de 40% je reste plus septique . Affaire à suivre ... S'il y avait un marché la dessus il y a longtemps qu'un industriel se serait lancé dans l'aventure , non ? Bonne modification du véhicule
Cordialement de PAPY
Quand tu auras fini , donne nous de tes nouvelles , pour savoir si ça fonctionne réellement et combien ça coûte ? Je sais que les moteurs tournent mieux les jours de brouillard car air avec humidité de PLUS de 60% , mais faire des économies de carburant de plus de 40% je reste plus septique . Affaire à suivre ... S'il y avait un marché la dessus il y a longtemps qu'un industriel se serait lancé dans l'aventure , non ? Bonne modification du véhicule
Cordialement de PAPY
En Afrique tout est possible, mais rien n'est certain ....!!
http://papyetmamyenvoyage.kazeo.com/
Bonjour,
L'huile de friture, ça fonctionne à merveille, mais le moteur tourne au sel.... Bonjour les dégats.
Et attention, tu ne passes pas inaperçu vu l'odeur que tu dégages. De plus, le douanier saura te suivre pour te faire payer une très grosse amande
Bonjour Papy
C'était bien mon intention de tester, et de faire part ensuite des joies et des peines.
Tu as donné la réponse en disant que les moteurs fonctionnent mieux en cas de brouillard ou d'humidité.
Dans le bouquin, ils disent que l'on peut assembler plusieurs "bocaux" entre eux, jusqu'à 6. ???
Mais un industriel ne peut pas (loi, fiscalité etc) fabriquer ce système, car la production est directe, immédiate, sans réserve. L'Etat ne pourrait pas taxer le produit.
Cordialement
bob
bonjour,
Effectivement quand on fait passer du courant continu dans de l'eau , i y a de l'hydrogène d'un coté (cathode) et hydrogène de l'autre(anode), mais !!! il faut de la puissance électrique, gros alternateur et cette puissance est prise sur le moteur!!! bilan ???
sur internet beaucoup de discutions(ultra-son/micro ondes!!!)mais aucun résultat miracle!!!
Raconte nous la suite avec les relevés de consommation /Températures/Vitesses/entretien du système et fiabilité.
A bientot
Moi assi je roule à l'eau!!!!!!! et le moteur tourne ma foi, pas trop mal...

Humour Bobmarine!!!!!!

Humour Bobmarine!!!!!!
Pourquoi se dit-on toujours APRES qu'il aurait fallu s'en occuper AVANT ?
Bonjour, j'ai lu votre article sur le moteur aidé par l'hydrogène :
depuis le mois de Juin 2009, qu'en est-il ? Certains prévoyaient l'explosion, d'autres n'y croyaient pas trop : honnêtement, quels sont les résultats ?
Est-ce diifficile à monter par exemple sur un Peugeot Boxer HDI (80 000km) qui consomme entre
9 et 10 l Gazole/100 ?
En tout cas, bravo, c'est courageux d'avoir averti les copains : vous aurez toujours des grincheux, des peureux, des indécis ....!
au fait, pour avoir le "système" et le faire poser, combien faut-il compter, et où aller ?
Merci pour votre réponse,
Cordialement,
Jean-Claude
Ghislaine et J-Claude
Pour produire de l'hydrogène, le système utilise de l'énergie électrique, issue de l'alternateur, donc du moteur, donc bilan énergétique forcément défavorable.
D'après ce que j'en vois, c'est une belle arnaque de Pieds Nickelés, et il y aura toujours des poires qui se feront avoir.
Où en est réellement notre expérimentateur? 🤪
Où en est réellement notre expérimentateur? 🤪
Bj. C'est sympa un forum où les "administrareurs" n'interviennent pas !
Il n y a pas de censure et chacun peut juger de la pertinence des arguments de l'autre.
Le risque c'est que ça dégénère ... Personnellement ce qui m'interesse c'est un forum sérieux où l'on puisse parler de camping-car et de voyage.
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Hi there,
We're planning a full week in Iceland in April. Given the short timeframe to prepare, I’m asking for some help on the forum.
We’re considering renting a camper van to be more independent with our travel. - Is this really a good idea at this time of year due to weather conditions (cold nights, poor road conditions, etc.)? - Can we just "park" anywhere for the night to sleep, or do we absolutely have to go to a campsite? What are the approximate rates for a van with 2 people? Do we need to book in advance? - If this mode of transport is recommended, do you have any good places to rent one?
Iceland is still a big island with lots of points of interest, so I think it’ll be tough to see everything in 8 days. - Are there parts of the island we should prioritize in April? We like hiking (nothing too long—6 or 7 hours is out of the question) and unique landscapes. - Are some sites inaccessible at this time of year? - Is Reykjavik worth stopping for a day or two?
Thanks in advance for your answers!
Jeff
We're planning a full week in Iceland in April. Given the short timeframe to prepare, I’m asking for some help on the forum.
We’re considering renting a camper van to be more independent with our travel. - Is this really a good idea at this time of year due to weather conditions (cold nights, poor road conditions, etc.)? - Can we just "park" anywhere for the night to sleep, or do we absolutely have to go to a campsite? What are the approximate rates for a van with 2 people? Do we need to book in advance? - If this mode of transport is recommended, do you have any good places to rent one?
Iceland is still a big island with lots of points of interest, so I think it’ll be tough to see everything in 8 days. - Are there parts of the island we should prioritize in April? We like hiking (nothing too long—6 or 7 hours is out of the question) and unique landscapes. - Are some sites inaccessible at this time of year? - Is Reykjavik worth stopping for a day or two?
Thanks in advance for your answers!
Jeff
Hi there,
Most of the time when I travel, I tow a trailer with an ATV for my local trips... I’d love to hear from anyone who’s traveled with a trailer and a second vehicle of any kind—especially the downsides of towing a trailer in Norway, aside from ferry costs.
Thanks!
Most of the time when I travel, I tow a trailer with an ATV for my local trips... I’d love to hear from anyone who’s traveled with a trailer and a second vehicle of any kind—especially the downsides of towing a trailer in Norway, aside from ferry costs.
Thanks!
hi,
I’m planning a trip to Albania in a camper van, most likely between May, June, and early July (2027), for about 60 days. On the way down, I’ll go as far as Bari (or Brindisi) and cross by ferry, and on the way back, I’ll go through the former Yugoslavia (or maybe take the return ferry?).
Has anyone been there recently? What are the roads like, the must-see spots, and any general tips you can share?
There’ll probably be two of us traveling together.
Thanks
Hi there,
During our last trip to Greece in 2021, we used Anek Lines' open deck offer, which allowed us to spend the night in our van on an open deck by the sea with access to the ferry's bars, restaurant, and showers (on the Ancona-Igoumenitsa route).
From my initial research, it seems this service no longer exists—can anyone confirm this?
Any alternatives?
Thanks
Hi everyone,
I’m planning to drive my camper van to southern Spain in autumn 2026. Ideally, I’d like to find a ferry leaving from France (Marseille or Toulon, doesn’t matter) that drops me off as far south in Spain as possible. I’ve done some research but haven’t had any luck.
Thanks for your tips!
Vanouk
We’d like to spend 15 days in August visiting Normandy by camper van, starting from Lyon.
Has anyone got an itinerary to suggest for exploring Normandy?
We’d like to go to Calvados to visit: Flower Coast, Honfleur, Cabourg, Deauville, D-Day landing beaches
Mont Saint-Michel
Alabaster Coast, Étretat cliffs, and maybe Rouen Fabienne
We’d like to go to Calvados to visit: Flower Coast, Honfleur, Cabourg, Deauville, D-Day landing beaches
Mont Saint-Michel
Alabaster Coast, Étretat cliffs, and maybe Rouen Fabienne
Hi there,
I have a bit of a crazy dream... I'd love to drop everything and hit the road with my wife and kids in a camper van.
I want to visit villages to learn, immerse ourselves in other cultures, and see different perspectives on the world. To teach my kids different values.
Hi everyone,
I’m planning a campervan road trip and would love some tips from those who know these countries: Slovenia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Croatia, Montenegro, and Slovenia again. At the moment, nothing’s set in stone, but for example, is it better to visit Slovenia or Bosnia? My preferences lean toward landscapes (rivers, sea, lakes)—basically anywhere there’s water! :) Wild camping, cheap or even free spots, and a *very* tight budget—it’s the discovery, curiosity, and meeting locals that drive me. I’ll visit cities and sites only if access is easy (by bike, for example, or by train from an affordable campsite) and if visitors aren’t treated like cash cows. Just reasonable stuff, really. So, any advice is welcome—like swimming spots or easy hikes along coasts or rivers. I love caves and offbeat visits (salt mines in Poland, La Roque Saint-Christophe in France, etc.). Castles and old ruins? Not really my thing... Thanks for your help! Sylvia
I’m planning a campervan road trip and would love some tips from those who know these countries: Slovenia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Croatia, Montenegro, and Slovenia again. At the moment, nothing’s set in stone, but for example, is it better to visit Slovenia or Bosnia? My preferences lean toward landscapes (rivers, sea, lakes)—basically anywhere there’s water! :) Wild camping, cheap or even free spots, and a *very* tight budget—it’s the discovery, curiosity, and meeting locals that drive me. I’ll visit cities and sites only if access is easy (by bike, for example, or by train from an affordable campsite) and if visitors aren’t treated like cash cows. Just reasonable stuff, really. So, any advice is welcome—like swimming spots or easy hikes along coasts or rivers. I love caves and offbeat visits (salt mines in Poland, La Roque Saint-Christophe in France, etc.). Castles and old ruins? Not really my thing... Thanks for your help! Sylvia
Hi, I’m planning to pick up a camper van in Dubai and drive it back to France... is this even possible? What’s the best route? What are the main challenges? Are there secure parking areas along the way? Is diesel fuel available for the whole trip? ... So many questions... Thanks for your help! See you soon!
I'm planning to drive to the UAE by road, going through Iraq. Has anyone done this and can give me some info? Specifically about the border crossings Turkey/Iraq and Iraq/Kuwait.
Hi there,
I’d love to hear your thoughts on a trip to New Zealand in a campervan. Is it a good idea to mix hotels and a car on the North Island and a campervan on the South Island? Or should I do the whole trip in a campervan—though visiting big cities seems trickier that way.
Other questions: which companies do you recommend, and what are the least tiring or most sensible routes? 😄
Thanks for sharing your experiences and ideas!
Hi there,
We’re planning to tour Scandinavia by camper van—Denmark, Sweden, Finland, and Norway (in that order)—for 5 weeks from late May to late June 2026.
I’ve done it before, but that was way back in 1980 😎 and by hitchhiking!
We’d love to hear from anyone who’s done this trip about the best routes, great tips, must-know advice, and what to do or avoid (ferries, campsites, etc.).
Thanks in advance!
hi there,
We’re heading to southern England this summer in our camper van, including a stop in London.
Does anyone have a good experience with a campsite near London that has easy access to public transport to get into the city center? Ideally, we’d like to leave the camper van at the campsite...
Thanks so much in advance for your help!
We’re heading to southern England this summer in our camper van, including a stop in London.
Does anyone have a good experience with a campsite near London that has easy access to public transport to get into the city center? Ideally, we’d like to leave the camper van at the campsite...
Thanks so much in advance for your help!
Hi everyone,
I’m planning a trip with my camper van in autumn 2026 to head to southern Italy from Genoa by ferry.
Ideally, I’d like to leave from Genoa for southern Italy (like Messina) or another city in the boot.
I’ve done some research online but haven’t had any luck.
Can you help or give me some advice?
Thanks in advance!
Vanouk