Si quelqu’un connaît ce secteur (autour de Vieng Kham (après Nong Khiaw, route 1) ) ses infos me serait très utiles ! (Jusqu’ici je suis bredouille… 😕)
Je m’explique : Après Luang Namtha, je compte faire un tour du coté de Nong Khiaw. Afin d’éviter de prendre la ‘grande route’ pour rejoindre Luang Prabang, je me suis dit ‘tiens ? pourquoi ne pas prendre les ‘petits chemins’ par L’est ? »
Mon problème c’est d’après une carte (que j’ai joint) on voit clairement que Pak xeng et Vieng Kham sont tout deux situé sur la même rivière : ‘Nam Xeng’, mais je ne trouve aucune infos pour savoir si oui ou non c’est une voie ‘navigable’ ?
J’ai regardé les ‘cartes’ du lonely P (certains doivent rire) et tenté de trouver des infos. Bon déjà Vieng Kham j’ai pas trouvé, la rivière non plus, mais en plus, surprise ! Ils ont mit Pak Xeng sur l’axe Nong Khiaw/Nam Noen (route 1) !!
Qui croire ?? Bien sûre je penche pour la première carte trouvée sur le net mais c’est tout de même déconcertant…
Sinon d’après la 1er carte il y une petite route un peut plus loin, qui rejoint Pax Xeng en passant par Phou Sanam.. Quelqu’un connaît cette route/piste ?
Si vous avez quelques connaissances sur ce secteur je vous remercie d’avance de m’en faire part ! 🙂 (je part le 7 novembre)
Bonjour,
Je vais essayer d'éclairer ta lanterne.
Sur la RC 13 après Luang Phrabang, une piste prend 1 km après le pont de Pakxuang et pendant un peu + de 60km, longe la Nam Xuang jusqu'au confluent avec la Nam Xeng à
Pak Xeng.Jusqu'ici la piste est large et roulante, ce qui veut dire , au Laos, que le transport routier a remplacé la batellerie.Mais il y a toujours des petites pirogues qui desservent les riverains, et la rivière est fort belle.
A Pak Xeng, un pont enjambe la Nam Xeng, qui n'est pas très large et semble peu profonde par rapport à la Nam Xuang.
Ensuite, pour rejoindre la RC1c à Sam Soun par Phou Sanam, la piste est très ��troite et super pentue pendant 10km, puis elle épouse la ligne de crête.Pour y passer chaque année à moto depuis 3 ans dans un sens ou dans l'autre, je ne me souviens pas y avoir croisé d'autres véhicules que des tracteurs à bras ou qques vieilles"mobylettes". 5km
avant de rejoindre le goudron avant Sam Soun, elle s'élargit et est + roulante, j'ai d'ailleurs failli me faire "shooter" par une grosse jeep immatriculée en Chine qui roulait à fond la caisse.Que venait-t'il faire dans ce coin perdu?
Je peux me tromper, mais je ne pense pas que la NamXeng soit navigable de Vieng Kham
à Pak Xeng.Pour la piste il te faut ton propre véhicule, un scoot 125 loué à Luang Phrabang peut faire l'affaire, seuls les 10km àprès Pak Xeng peuvent poser problème
surtout s'il a plu récemment.
Désolé de ne pouvoir t'en dire +, peut-être qu'à Nong Khiaw tu auras des infos + précises.
Bon Voyage,
Lung.
Meri beaucoup Lung de m’avoir fait part de ton expérience, c’est très éclairant ! 🙂
Je crois que si j’ai le temps j’essayerai de tenter la piste entre Sam Soun et Pak Xeng, puis le bateau entre Pak Xeng et Luang Prabang.
Avec un peut de chance je pourrais peut être louer les services d’un local pour la piste. Elle est praticable en 4x4 ? (Ce n’est pas que je sois fan de ces gros engins mais comme nous sommes 2 la moto ça risque d’être compliqué ...)
Sinon j’espère pouvoir prendre le bateau de Nong Khiaw à Luang Prabang
Bonjour,
la piste prend peu àprès Sam Soun, il y a toujours 3,4 villageoises qui vendent quelques légumes.
Il y a près de 60km pour Pak Xeng, en admettant que tu trouves qque chose à louer, il faudra payer le retour, ça risque de faire très cher.Personnellement, je tenterai le stop depuis le début de la piste , quitte à passer une nuit dans un des villages traversés, ils sont tous très accueillants.
Il m'est arrivé d'être contraint de passer la nuit dans des villages perdus, loin des "treks" organisés, à chaque fois ce fut la fête, même si le confort était spartiate.Tu retrouveras ta douche le lendemain! Surtout que ces villages sont en altitude(froid la nuit) et loin d'une rivière.
A Pak Xeng, juste avant le pont, à Dr, il y a une pharmacie, peut-être parlent-ils un peu français ou Anglais, pour avoir des infos, sinon, passé le pont prends la piste qui rejoint le confluent où j'ai vu qques pirogues amarrées.
Bon voyage,
Bonjour,
Pas besoin de sac, à chaque fois, ils nous ont fourni une "couette" et moustiquaire, et s'il n'en avaient pas assez, un voisin y pourvoyait.Même en voyageant léger, en altitude, la tempé descend entre 10 et 15 la nuit en Nov.Une polaire légère avec col, un foulard de soie et un coupe vent genre K-Way(il fait frais sur les pirogues).
D'après ton profil, je pense que le fait de savoir dessiner est une porte de contact
extraordinaire pour les relations avec les gamins, et il y en a dans les villages sur cette piste! Quand je passe à moto, à l'extrême ralenti, ils se précipitent pour me taper la main.et si je m'arrête, les classes se vident, les instits viennent tailler une bavette-il est vrai que je me débrouille assez bien en lao-.Seul ou avec mon épouse, jamais je ne me suis senti en insécurité la nuit au Laos.
Sur différents forums, tu pourras lire:"femme seule au Laos".
Le seul drame dont j'ai souvenir c'est passé à Vang Vieng il y a quelques années, mais quand on voit la dégaine de pas mal de "routardes" avinées et enfumées associant Laos avec défonce.....C'est peu par rapport avec ce que l'on lit chaque été dans la presse française à propos des dérives dans les stations balnéaires.
Bon voyage,
Je suis rentrée de mon escapade dans le nord du Laos. J’en suis Ravie ! Mais en 3 semaines je n’ai pas eu le temps de tout voir, il va falloir que je revienne
Finalement nous n’avons pas fait de stop. Il faut dire que les routes principales ne sont pas temps que ça fréquentées alors en ce qui concerne les routes secondaires, il faut vraiment avoir de la chance !
Nous avons choisit d’aller jusque Muang Khua afin de descendre la Nam Ou jusque Muang Ngoi. Ca vaut vraiment le coup ! Surtout la dernière heure de bateau avant Muang Ngoi, le paysage est superbe.
Pour cette descente il est facile de trouver des bateaux ils partent tout les matins vers 8H quand ils sont plein. Par contre on ne peut pas dire que ce soit bon marché : 11euros jusque Muang Ngoi (4-5 h je crois), et il est difficile de négocier puisque qu’ils ont affiché les prix …
Muang Ngoi c’est vraiment un village très agréable et reposant, même si 1 bâtiment sur 2 est destiné aux touristes… Les montagnes environnantes sont très belles, il y a plusieurs ballades et activités intéressantes à faire.
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Hello, it’s been a while since I last asked for your help on this forum—I’ve really missed it! I hope you’re all doing well, whether you're new or returning members.
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight)
· Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok)
· Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok)
· Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x")
· Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x")
· Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x")
· Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x")
· Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x")
· Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x")
· Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok)
· Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok)
· Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok)
· Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
Hi there,
I’ve found so many tips and reviews on this forum, so it’s my turn to contribute a little.
We spent just over two weeks with our family, with the following itinerary:
- Hanoi: 5 days
- Halong Bay: 3 days and 2 nights
- Tam Coc: 3 days
- Mai Chau: 2 days
- Sapa: 3 days
We got around by bike, scooter, Grab, and bus.
Our main accommodations were homestays and hotels in Hanoi.
We visited lots of museums, temples, and neighborhoods in Hanoi.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Sapa with May, a Hmong local, without going through an agency.
A few small regrets: the weather was overcast, and we couldn’t make it to Fansipan, but nothing major 😅. We also couldn’t find transport to get from Sapa to Mu Cang Chai.
Other than that, this trip will stay in our memories for the kindness of the Vietnamese people, the connections we made, the food (street food, homestays...), the coffee 😋, the landscapes, and how easy it was to get around...
Our goal was to take our time and focus only on a small part of northern Vietnam.
If you need any tips or recommendations, don’t hesitate to ask.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there, we’re landing at Hanoi Airport and would like to head straight to Cao Bang without going into Hanoi. Does anyone know if there are buses that go directly from the airport to Cao Bang (especially in the early afternoon)? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!
hi everyone,
I want to travel in the north for 3 weeks in September-October 2026 to meet ethnic minorities, photograph mountain rice terraces and their harvest, and revisit Halong Bay—but maybe Lan Ha Bay instead. Can you recommend one or more local agencies?
Thanks, and happy holidays!
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling.
For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees?
We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo.
Thanks for your tips and help!
Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
I’d love to get some feedback on our itinerary—it’s probably pretty basic! This is our second trip to Asia and our first to Indonesia. We have three kids aged 20, 18, and 12. We land in Jakarta at 4 PM, spend 3 nights/2 days there, then take the train to Yogyakarta for 3 nights/2 days, followed by the train to Surabaya for 2 nights/1 day, then the train to Bromo for 1 day/1 night, a private driver to Ijen for 2 nights/2 days, then on to Bali (Ubud) for 4 nights/3 days, followed by Gili Air for 3 nights/2 days, Senggigi (Lombok) for 2 nights, and finally 5 nights in Kuta. I’m considering cutting the 2 nights in Senggigi to just keep Kuta and extend it to 7 nights. In Lombok, I’m not sure how to get around since I’m not comfortable with scooters... Your thoughts on all of this, and any advice, are more than welcome—don’t hesitate!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Hi! I’m planning a 15-day trip to Malaysia. The idea is to visit KL for 2 or 3 days, then Borneo, and I’m wondering what to do with the rest of the time. I’d like to finish with the Perhentian Islands... What do you think? Any tips or advice would be great—I’d really appreciate it!
Hi everyone,
I’m looking for addresses for guesthouses or, even better, houseboats or rafting houses on the River Kwai, between Kanchanaburi and Sangkhlaburi, to spend a few weeks contemplating this beautiful river.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Premaria
Hi there,
we’re currently in Mai Chau and tomorrow we’re hitting the road back to Hanoi to head up toward Bac Ha and Sapa.
We haven’t really had a set plan since we arrived—we’ve already done the Halong Bay on land and by sea.
I’ve got 2 free days before heading to Bac Ha and Sapa.
Any tips?
Thanks, and looking forward to hearing from you.
Hi fellow travelers,
First trip to Vietnam.
We’ll be arriving in Ho Chi Minh City during Tet.
Is it complicated to find accommodation and get around during this period?
Any tips would be welcome.
Thanks for your replies.
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip?
I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Hi there,
I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...
Hello.
In 1996, we crossed Vietnam from Saigon to Hanoi by motorbike—Minsk bikes we bought in Saigon. I haven’t been back since, and it seems like a lot has changed.
- We’re heading to the south (well, the north and center) with the family in July-August (3 people).
- Is the road network more developed now? Back then, there was only National Route 1 from south to north. I’m thinking of renting a car this time (no motorbike with the family—though in ’96, they had a Jawa sidecar for sale, and we hesitated… maybe it’s for the best).
- Is Halong Bay really something to avoid because of overtourism? Even back then, it was pretty crowded. Is there a less touristy alternative?
- We’ll be traveling from Hanoi down to Danang (the only city we didn’t stop in back in ’96). Even though it’s a bit overhyped in a Chinese-tourist kind of way (from what I’ve read), we’re only going for the beach—pure relaxation for 7 days. The beaches are stunning, and I know the South China Sea is warm like coffee.
- Then, we’ll visit Hoi An, where I stopped in ’96. It was already popular with backpackers back then, but no glowing boats or all the touristy fuss!
- After that, Hue, where I have great memories—it’s a beautiful city.
- And also the nature around Ninh Binh, followed by 2-3 days in Hanoi.
That’s the plan. I’d love to hear any tips to avoid mass tourism, and if anyone’s done this before:
- Is it possible to rent a car in Danang and drop it off in Hanoi?
Hey everyone,
I’m over in East Borneo in mid-July.
I’m struggling to wrap up the end of my itinerary, even though it’s pretty straightforward (long but simple).
Last year, we did Malaysia (KL and the mainland + around Kuching).
Day 1 – Arrive in Kota Kinabalu early, stroll around town and hit the must-sees.
Day 2 – Excursion to Tunku Abdul Rahman Park, snorkeling at 3 islands.
Day 3 – Hike around Mount Kinabalu without summiting (450 per person, no way).
Day 4 – Poring Hot Springs + evening flight to Sandakan.
Day 5-6-7 – Kinabatangan River (still looking for the right guide).
Day 8 – Sepilok for the orangutans, the Sun Bear Centre, and Rainforest Discovery Centre.
Day 9 – Selingan, turtle island.
Day 10 – Head to Semporna.
Day 11-12-13-14 – Sipadan, Mabul, Kapalai.
Day 15 – Bohey Dulang.
Day 16 to Day 25: I’M STUCK.
I looked into Danum Valley, but for 3 days/2 nights, they’re quoting 650 € per person—come on, that’s ridiculous.
I checked out a detour into Indonesia (still East Borneo), but I’m having trouble deciding what would be amazing.
I read about Sangalaki + Kakaban (2 islands, 1 base) / Mahakam Delta - Kutai (orangutans and river) / Sungai Boh (Dayak Kayan) – jungle & culture.
But honestly, I’m struggling to finalize this itinerary.
If we venture that way, we’d head back to KK from Balikpapan.
For a 4-month stay in Egypt, I had ENORMOUS problems. The regulations are very bureaucratic and extremely nitpicky there. For a 4-month stay in the Philippines, I was wondering if the procedures are just as complicated? I’m bringing my cell phone with an eSIM. Should I choose a plan from Canada for use in the Philippines, or should I get a plan only once I arrive? After 30 days, do I renew with the Canadian provider I chose before leaving, or do I switch to a local company? Do I need to register my phone with the authorities in the Philippines? (That was the case in Egypt.) For the 3rd and 4th months, will it be just as simple—renewing with a Canadian or local provider—or should I expect problems?
Hello,
I’ll be in Malaysia with my wife, mainly in Langkawi and Penang for Christmas and New Year’s at the end of 2026.
If you’ve had the experience—and since I’ve read (though it’s not very clear) that these two islands get quite crowded during this period—would you recommend booking accommodation well in advance, or is it easy to find something on the spot?
Hotels or Airbnb?
Do you have any great tips for accommodation or any practical info to share?
We’ll be staying 5 to 7 days on each island.
Thanks in advance for your replies
Hi there. To make the most of Lake Toba, is it better to find accommodation on the lake’s shores (which one?) or on Samosir Island? Thanks for your tips!
Hi there,
We’re heading to Vietnam as a family on July 8th for a little over 3 weeks (north and center). We’ve only booked the first 3 nights in Hanoi, and nothing else after that. We like to decide things on the spot and go with the flow, without rushing everywhere. But I’m still a bit unsure: when heading down to the center (Hue), is it better to book the overnight trains in advance? We don’t want to take any flights while we’re there—just use the overnight train for the long trips. But I’m worried we won’t get seats if we buy the tickets on the spot, say, 2 days before. What do the experts here think? And which website can we use to book the tickets? Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hi everyone!
I’m heading back to Thailand in July 2026 with a stopover in Cambodia to visit the Angkor site.
After Angkor, I’ve booked a stay on Ko Chang island. Does anyone know if there are direct transport options from Cambodia to Ko Chang without having to go back through Bangkok? That would be amazing!!
I think there are, but I’d need more details!!
I went to Thailand in February 2025 and don’t remember having to apply for a visa—is that still the case now? And for Cambodia too?
Thanks so much!!!
Laurence from Bayonne
Hi,
After our trip to China, we want to spend a week in the Philippines for some beach time and snorkeling.
We're looking for the best spot to settle in—nice beaches, great marine life, and short transfer times.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Does anyone know of a private transfer or taxi company that organizes transfers from the Sukhothai area to Chiang Mai?
Our routes are Sukhothai-Lampang, Lampang-Chom Thong, and Chom Thong-Chiang Mai.
My searches on Google Maps, 12Go, and others haven’t turned up much...
For our Bangkok-Sukhothai trips, I use a company I’ve already tried, but they don’t have a fleet available from Sukhothai and have to go through third-party companies—which, understandably, take their commission. This nearly doubles the prices...
There are four of us, and we’re not traveling light, so a minibus isn’t an option. ;-)
Hello,
While traveling in Thailand, I’m looking for a Buddhist kumlai reed bracelet.
Does anyone know where I can find one?
In Bangkok, I visited a few temples but didn’t see any in the nearby shops.
If you have any ideas, I’d love to hear them! Have a great day! :-)
My trip’s coming up, and I’m having a bit of trouble with three bus/minivan routes. Usually, I find everything at this time of year, but this time—yikes!
Sandakan → Sepilok:
No app for this one—you just hop on bus #14 at the local terminal (pay cash on board). But where do I catch it, and where’s the stop??
Sandakan → Semporna:
From what I’ve heard, it’s the Sida Express company (great name, right? 😄).
Can’t book online, but apparently, you *have* to because there’s only one bus at 8 AM.
Where do I board, and where does it drop me off?
Semporna → Tawau:
Found this via AI—is it legit?
No online booking, as far as I can tell.
Minivans leave from a stop in the Jalan Hospital area, near the Milimewa supermarket, supposedly????
And when you arrive, does it drop you at **Sabindo Square** in Tawau?????