Je suis en train de traduire en anglais un document tres revelateur sur la conduite de certains francais -nombreux helas, ce n'est pas la premiere fois que je traduis ce genre de documents- residant en Thailande et s'engageant dans des malversation immobilieres a l'encontre de francais achetant de l'immobilier dans le pays. Le cas present -a Koh Samui comme frequemment- est d'un "constructeur" qui 1) A construit une maison n'importe comment en profitant de ce que le client habitait en France 2) A fait des declarations mensongeres aux autorites thaies. Apparemment, il n'en est pas a son premier coup!
De plus, j'ai une amie francaise qui voulait acheter un condo a Bangkok. Heureusement, je lui avais bien dit de me montrer tous les papiers avant de les signer. Il s'avere 1) Que le vendeur -francais- n'est pas proprietaire du condo; ce qu'il revend, c'est son contrat de vente avec le promoteur, en cheville avec un avocat qu' il a conseille a mon innocente amie. Bien entendu, ledit avocat a pondu pour mon amie un contrat de vente qui est un torchon et personne ne lui avait dit qu'elle rachetait un 1er contrat, que bien entendu ces 2 salopards ne lui ont pas montre. Le fait de revendre un contrat est parfaitement legal (ca s'appelle "Assignment of Rights") mais j'attends de voir ce 1er contrat avec impatience car juste le fait qu'ils ne lui en ont jamais parle me fait pressentir une embrouille. Je signale que, en cas de "assignment of rights", le promoteur a parfaitement le droit de refuser que son acheteur revende le contrat a un tiers. Comme, dans ce cas la, celui qui revend le contrat habite a Tahiti, bonjour pour lui courrir apres s'il y a un probleme! (d'ailleurs, j'ai dit a mon amie de faire inscrire sur SON contrat qu'en cas de litige, l'affaire devra etre portee pour arbitration a Bangkok; l'avocat a commence par lui dire que l'arbitration n'existait pas en Thailande; je lui ai mis sous le nez le "Arbitration Act of 2002" et il a donc rajoute la clause sur le contrat, mais sans preciser "Bangkok"!!!!!).
DONC, un bon conseil: mefiez vous comme de la peste de toute transaction immobiliere en Thailande. Ne vous adressez qu'a des maisons connus et ENGAGER UN CABINET D'AVOCATS RENOMME INDEPENDANT POUR TOUT VERIFIER; ils coutent plus cher que les autres, mais il vaut mieux ca que de se faire avoir, vu que les cours Thaies se foutent completement des histoires entre farang (entre farang et thais, c'est encore pire, c'est rarement le farang qui gagne!)
Voir mon site "Acheter un condo en Thailande" pour une liste des magouilles courantes.
Méfiez-vous de la vie, car les ratés ne vous rateront pas!
merci Larsay, de ses messages d'alerte toujours aussi, informatifs du marche et de ses craintes . cela fait peur de voir de telles agissements, j'en arrive parfois a me demander si la confiance d'un marche immo, existe bien dans ce pays, bien sur je suis conscient, que l on ne peut pas mettrre tout le monde dans le meme sac, mais alors comment peut on faire la difference et mesurer les risques, en tant que neophytes, parfois j en reviens au discours de Barbot, qui nous assene de louer contre vent et maree .
cest un topic encore a mediter, merci encore
DONC, un bon conseil: mefiez vous comme de la peste de toute transaction immobiliere en Thailande. Ne vous adressez qu'a des maisons connus et ENGAGER UN CABINET D'AVOCATS RENOMME INDEPENDANT POUR TOUT VERIFIER; ils coutent plus cher que les autres, mais il vaut mieux ca que de se faire avoir, vu que les cours Thaies se foutent completement des histoires entre farang (entre farang et thais, c'est encore pire, c'est rarement le farang qui gagne!)
Voici une recette ecul้e mais qui marche encore de temps en temps comme une vieille paire de godasses que l'on ressort du placard pour partir en chasse guetter le bon coup de fusil.
Condition sine qua non: il est absolument indispensable de posseder, comme miroir aux alouettes, un acte notarie; (authentique si possible) qui vous permet d'exploiter un etablissement de la categorie ''bar-restaurant-hotel-Agogo-disco-karaoke'' et d'avoir effectivement l'usufruit, pour ne pas dire la jouissance, des lieux. Cela ne s'adresse qu'aux fonds de commerce plutot deficitaires et dont il faut relever la sauce avec un peu de poudre de perlimpinpin.
Pour ce faire, prenez un bleubite de farang nourri au grain et qui debarque la gueule enfarinee, pas encore dessale malgre son age, et d้jเ farci de belles liasses de biftons qui vous le rendent fort app้tissant, surtout lorsqu'il annonce qu'il est pr๊t เ mettre toutes ses ้conocroques dans une affaire saine, car il est bien d้cid้ เ casser la baraque dans le but d้clar้ de se payer une retraite dor้e au milieu d'un cheptel sans cesse renouvel้.
Et une affaire saine, justement vous en connaissez une, la v๔tre, que vous avez mis tant d'ann้es เ faire prosp้rer mais qu'il vous faut revendre maintenant pour acheter plus grand afin de mieux pouvoir assurer le train de vie auquel vous vous ๊tes gentiment habitu้ grโce aux b้n้fices plus que confortables que vous accumulez quotidiennement derri่re votre comptoir, livre de comptes เ l'appui, tout en surveillant les "petites" d'un œil paternaliste, car en plus c'est devenu une affaire de famille et vous ne la c่deriez certainement pas เ un malotru qui ne prendrait pas bien soin du personnel.
Oui, vous l'avouez, vous avez du mal เ choisir parmi tous ces pr้tendants au tr๔ne et vous recherchez celui qui aura en plus cette g้n้reuse touche d'humanit้, ce petit suppl้ment d'โme comme on dit เ quelqu'un pour ๊tre s๛r qu'il se reconnaisse.
C'est ce qu'on appelle passer la viande เ l'attendrisseur. Ensuite, vous n'avez plus qu'เ la faire mariner dans les aromates les plus subtils, et de la fumer au parfum du profit imm้diat, savoureusement rehauss้ par les douces fragrances d'un beau bouquet garni d'oseille et d'้pinards au beurre frais.
Pour que la sauce prenne, il vous suffit d'inviter une belle brochette de "barons" assoiff้s que vous r้galerez gratis pendant quelques soir้es en pr้sence de l'heureux ้lu. A l'occasion du verre de fermeture, vous lui accorderez l'honneur de faire la caisse lui-m๊me, puisque il est "virtuellement" le nouveau patron, et avant la fin de la semaine, il viendra de bon matin avec une mallette de billets vous supplier de le suivre chez le notaire avec qui il a d้jเ pris rendez-vous pour conclure l'affaire du si่cle, ou du moins de sa petite vie de labeur.
Et vous avez eu juste le temps de r้cup้rer deux ou trois objets personnels que d้jเ il se la joue big boss. Puis, les semaines, les mois passent, et les clients fid่les, ces ingrats, ne sont jamais revenus. Pas encore inquiet, notre nouveau ca๏d change toute la d้coration et se ruine en publicit้ afin d'attirer le chaland, mais rien n'y fait, plus le temps passe, plus les comptes sont d้sastreux.
Un beau jour, il est "al dente", et comme par hasard, vous lui rendez visite pour prendre de ses nouvelles; au moment o๙ il commence เ pleurer sur votre ้paule, vous lui "sauvez la mise" en proposant de racheter ses parts. Devant ce geste magnanime, il est absolument confondu et n'aura aucune peine เ comprendre qu'au taux de l'inflation locale et compte tenu de la baisse de l'euro, vous ne pouvez lui offrir que le tiers de ce qu'il vous a vers้. Un peu de braise suffit pour r๔tir les ้tourneaux… Lorsque vous avez r้int้gr้ votre palombi่re, il ne vous reste plus qu'เ attendre le prochain passage, et d'ailleurs en cette saison les vols sont complets…
Raymond Verge
Ce post sur la chasse aux pigeons est excellent et j'Ai toujours du plaisir à le relire ! ÉMerci de l'avoir ressorti
Tout le monde meurt, peu de gens vivent .
Je n'aime pas donner des réponses ... . Aujourd'hui, quand on donne aux gens des réponses, ils ont l'impression qu'on les prend pour des imbéciles et qu'on empiète sur leur liberté.
Mon testament philosophique
Citations de Jean Guitton
Merci de continuer à informer malgré les remontrances de certains aveugles !
"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man." - George Bernard Shaw
Desole, mais je suis completement nul en ordi, donc je ne sais meme pas mettre un "lien" sur le VF. Si quelqu'un peut m'expliquer ETAPE PAR ETAPE comment faire, je lui en serai reconnaissant
Voila le etxte:
Acheter un condo en Thaïlande Citer | Répondre Je viens de tomber par hazard sur un petit fascicule tres bien fait expliquant les droits des proprietaires de condos en Thailande, publie par Tighe Books, 234/807 Moo9, Nong Prue, Banglamung, Chonburi E-mail Thghebooks@hotmail.com. Bouquin tres interressant car il commence par expliquer toutes les effroyables arnaques de nombreux promoteurs de condos, notemment a Pattaya. Parmi les meilleures:
1) Utilisation des fonds communs pour des besoins personnels. Ex: un proprietaire de condo fait un proces au promoteur pour rupture ehontee de contrat; le promoteur paie (grassement) un gros avocat sur les fonds communs alors qu'il s'agit d'un proces personnel
2) Nomination d'un "Condo Manager" par le promoteur, evidemment a la botte de celui-ci. La loi est tres claire: ce Manager doit etre nomme par l'association des co-proprietaires
3) Utilisation des surfaces communes pour des operations immobilieres crasses sans en aviser les co-proprietaires, et augmentation abusive des frais de maintenance. La, helas, la loi sur les condos veut que, "pour toute decision importante, le promoteur doit reunir les co-proprietaires avec un quorum de 75%". Le pb est que, la majorite des co-proprios habitant en Europe une partie de l'annee ou preferant piccoler dans un bar ou se sauter une pute plutot que d'assister a une reunion, le quorum n'est jamais atteint. Le promoteur organise donc une reunion (ou pas du tout, il est signale un cas a Jomtiem ou aucune reunion n'a ete organisee depuis 3 ans!!!!!) et, en l'absence du quorum, prend les decisions qu'il lui plait. Resultat: a Jomtiem toujours, un salopard de promoteur a commence a eriger une structure sur le terrain appartenant a la communaute, entre l'immeuble et la mer bien sur, expliquant aux curieux que c'etait "une coffee shop pour l'agrement des co-proprios"; en fait de coffee shop, ca c'est termine par un immeuble commercial de 3 etages bloquant la vue sur la mer (qu'ils avaient payee grassement) de tous les co-proprietaires des 3 premiers etages!!!!!!!
4) Ignorance volontaire de la loi sur les condos exigeant une reunion generale annuelle (Annual General Meeting -AGM) des co-proprios et du promoteur. Inutile de dire que, celle-la, elle arrive rarement ou pas du tout.
DONC, les arnaques continuelles: Augmentation illegale des frais de maintenance Surcharges illegales sur les frais de maintenance Achats non-autorises avec les fonds communs Depenses personnelles payees sur les fonds communs Corruption de fonctionnaires locaux, police, et juges (les promoteurs ont BEAUCOUP d'argent) pour bloquer ou annuler toute reaction d'un co-proprio Diffamation des co-proprios "recalcitrants" Vol pur et simples de fonds communs en l'absence de controle serieux des co-proprietaires (suivi d'un appel de fonds + ou - volontaire en cas de grosse depense necessaire) Comptes trafiques Menaces et violences physiques contre les fortes tetes
Il faut bien dire que tout cela est un peu de la faute des co-proprios aussi, qui ne parlent pas, ne se reunissent pas, et finissent par decouvrir qu'ils sont en train de se faire avoir jusqu's l'os, mais il est trop tard!
EN D'AUTRES TERMES, MARCHER SUR DES OEUFS! Il vaut mieux payer plus cher et avoir affaire a des promoteurs serieux que de signer avec des gangsters, notemment des specialistes thais de la question
Le petit bouquin explique un truc tres simple pour flairer les promoteurs enfoires des le depart : demander une copie du Condominium Act BE 2522 (1979) au promoteur ou son agent. S'il vous dit qu'il n'y en a pas, ou qu'il ne l'a pas, ou qu'il ne sait pas ou vous pouvez l'obtenir, ou qu'il n'est disponible qu'en thai, FUYEZ!!!!!!!!
Il explique aussi de ne jamais signer un papier quelqu'il soit redige en thai. Une trado thai-anglais ou francais coute 500 baht la page; donc, vous prenez le papier et vous le donnez vous-meme a une societe de traduction (je suppose que je n'ai pas besoin de vous expliquer le "vous-meme"). Il vaut mieux payer ca que se faire rouler!
Mettez-vous dans la tete que, notemment a Pattaya ou regnent la mafia thaie et russe, la moitie des promoteurs sont des escrocs complets. Donc, un bon conseil, achetez chez Ellis ou autres maisons serieuses, et laissez les thais et les Russes s'escroquer entre eux. Si vous etes dans le doute, n'achetez RIEN sans parler d'abord a plusieurs co-proprietaires, si possible pas obsede sexuel alcoolique (dur a trouver a Pattaya!)
Méfiez-vous de la vie, car les ratés ne vous rateront pas!
En thaïlandais et ailleurs : ce n'est pas parce-que on est francais que l'on est honnête.
Il faut avoir une bonne raison pour aller habiter sur une île ou dans un pays étranger, certain le font pour une envie de changement, idéalisme ou autre et d'autre pour des raisons beaucoup plus obscures.
De ces gens la il faut se méfier (entre autre) car ils se pensent assez loin de chez eux pour faire tout et n'importe quoi. Il y a les restes a tout prix, de petit arnaqueur ou même des gros arnaqueurs.
Un ami me disait, un pirate : "les requins, ne sont pas dans l'eau il sont sur les îles".
Quoi qu'il arrive méfiez vous...
Maintenant comment faire pour se méfier : NE FAIT PAS CE QUE VOUS NE FERRIEZ PAS EN FRANCE !!
Dans la plupart des cas ou les gens se font arnaquer il n'y a pas d'arnaqueur !!! méditer bien ça.
On en veux toujours aux mauvaises personnes.
L'immobilier est un exemple frappant car ce sont souvent de gros montant.
De se faire avoir de 100 b par un taxi, c'est pas grave...
La plus part des arnaqués, s'arnarque tout seul, parce-qu'ils ne suivent pas des règles simples. L'histoire du condo : Vous achèteriez vous, un condominium sans même prendre un avocat de renommé (non discuter), pour s'occuper de la vente, a oui ça coût un peu plus mais bon. Alors peu être que pour économiser 1000 E vous aller en perdre beaucoup plus.
Je peux vous dire le nombre de gens qui font confiance sur une simple poignée de main vous seriez affolez et heureusement qu'il y a quand même beaucoup de gent honnêtes car se serais une catastrophe.
Le manque de connaissance fait que les arnaques sont possibles. Pourquoi vous vous renseignez sur VF pour pas vous faire arnaquer alors quand vous achetez un bien renseigner vous et pas qu'a une seule personnes, en plus, suivant les réponses vous pourrez juger les gens sur leurs professionnalismes.
Les forums sont bien pour cela car si quelque chose s avère faux il y a du monde pour le dénoncer...
Aller bye
Il n'y a d'homme plus complet que celui qui a beaucoup voyagé, qui a changé vingt fois la forme de sa pensée et de sa vie
En Thailande l'erreur numero1, est de faire confiance a un avocat Farang..Il semblerait donc que les conseilleurs sur ce forum ne connaissent rien et racontent n'importe quoi .c'est evident.un avocat thai sera mieux vous conseiller plus honnette, moins cher, et pas vous plumer comme une allouette.la verite se gagne et surtout ne pas ecouter les conneries qui se disent derriere un pc.ceux qui savent ne parlent pas, en tout cas pas dans un forum
.c'est evident.un avocat thai sera mieux vous conseiller plus honnête, moins cher,
oui mais ou est le bouton, honnête ??? pas évident a le voir, 🤪
acheter c'est possible, simplement il faut le faire en connaissance de causse,
il y a pas mal de monde qui vivent dans leur condos acheter, et qui dorment bien, et d'autres qui ont la valise dans le couloir prêt a déguerpir,
autre chose que il faut bien tenir compte puisque c'est un achat a long terme <, je suppose ............>
beaucoup de choses vont changer après le décès de ce roi, , et je crains que votre achat va poser problème,
rien ne prouve que on ira dans le positif, , , , , , , , ,
« Le voyage apprend la tolérance. »
Benjamin Disraeli
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Donc il ne faut surtout pas t'écouter, c'est ça? D'ailleur il n'a jamais été dit qu'il faut voir un avocat étranger mais un avocat sérieux!
"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man." - George Bernard Shaw
Un avocat thai connait bien les lois de son pays ainsi que les coutumes qu'il expliquera a un farang qui voudrait tenter le diable.l'avocat farang plume ses compatriotes car il est en thailande pour ca. les expats qui reussissent dans ce pays les savent et ne font jamais appel a eux. c'es pas pour rien je pense, mais si j'etais avocat je ferai de meme pour gonfler ma treso car c'est un travail comme un autre, les plumes sont toujours des gens avertis. ils aiment se faire plumer, plutot se rapprocher des escrocs qui parlent leur langue et donner leur confiance betement
possible mais mettre tout le monde dans le même panier ??
puis entre nous il y a des avocats thais bien plus véreux que des farangs,
le problème du farang n'est pas tellement l'honnêteté, mais le manque de connaissance, normal il faut être thaï pour comprendre leur système, 🤪
j'ai déjà discuter de cela avec un ami avocat mais allemand, qui travaille pour la chambre de commerce, , leur gros problème est le manque d'information et de transparence, , cela peut conduire effectivement à une catastrophe,
« Le voyage apprend la tolérance. »
Benjamin Disraeli
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le but de mon intervention est de mettre en garde, et rien de plus . quel serait mon interet ????Je crois que celui qui est passe par la pourra confirmer, les autres intervenants semblent loin de tout ca. c'est la raison de leur exitation inutile car leur experience personnelle peut etre vide sinon ils temoigneraient concretement au lieu de jacasser stupidement pour ne rien dire
D'ailleurs il n'a jamais été dit qu'il faut voir un avocat étranger mais un avocat sérieux!
Heureusement, il y a sur ce forum des gens qui savent lire et ecrire!
Le but de mon post etait: D'exposer certaines malhonnetetes De prevenir que ce n'etait pas parceque l'on traitait avec des francais que l'on etait a l'abri.
Comme d'habitude, une bonne intention est torpillee par des energumenes qui la dévient completement et transforme ca en racisme ou je ne sais trop quoi qui n'a rien a voir avec le sujet, L'IMMOBILIER.
Je connais des avocats thais fantastiques, et je suis d'accord qu'il vaut mieux passer par eux qui connaissent bien les arcanes des lois locales
Méfiez-vous de la vie, car les ratés ne vous rateront pas!
Conclusion, n'achetez pas d'immobilier en Thaïlande ...
Cà fait monter les prix et de plus le fric ne profite pas au "petit peuple" mais à des requins !
Restez chez vous, çà vaudra même mieux LOL
(Je me tâte pour constituer une liste des coins "à éviter" : ceux que je préfère ...)
😉
Si vous avez compris tout ce que je viens de vous dire, c'est que j'ai dû faire une erreur quelque part. - Alan Greenspan
Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme - Rabelais
Je n'ai pas dit qu'il ne fallait pas acheter, j'ai dit qu'il fallait se mefier, meme avec des francais, et qu'il fallait tout verifier avec un avocat serieux. Ca fait une sacree nuance. Decidemment........
Méfiez-vous de la vie, car les ratés ne vous rateront pas!
Oh, je ne vous ai point même effleuré "le kiki" ! 🏴☠️
(je suis hétéro d'obédience intégriste ...)
Un peu d'humour, de temps en temps ...
Et je confirme, en ce qui me concerne, moins il y a de falangs (français, mais les anglos ne sont pas mal non-plus merci) dans l'immobilier mieux JE me porte !
Désolé ! (il n'y a pas de smiley hypocrite, çà manque pour la compréhension ...)
Si vous avez compris tout ce que je viens de vous dire, c'est que j'ai dû faire une erreur quelque part. - Alan Greenspan
Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme - Rabelais
Hi fellow travelers,
First trip to Vietnam.
We’ll be arriving in Ho Chi Minh City during Tet.
Is it complicated to find accommodation and get around during this period?
Any tips would be welcome.
Thanks for your replies.
Hello,
After 1 night in Khao Sok, I’d like to find a 2 Days 1 Night package on the lake.
After reading a lot, I decided to "break the bank" and treat ourselves to a private tour—mainly to avoid the crowds.
But after contacting several operators, they offer "private tours" that are very expensive (around 700 €), yet in the details, the boats can only leave from the pier at 10 AM like everyone else. (I was hoping to leave much earlier.) The morning program is the same for everyone too (private or not). They drop us off at noon at our floating hotel (I’d chosen Phupha Waree). Free afternoon (swimming or kayaking in front of the hotel). We head back by boat for a 1-hour sunset ride. And the next morning, we leave the hotel at 8 AM to be at the pier by 9:30 AM at the latest—end of the trip.
So basically, we’re paying a lot for a private tour just to do the same thing as everyone else at the same time.
Or maybe I just had bad luck in my search.
I contacted Panida Ladi, who’s very popular on forums. We’d agreed on a private tour that matched my request (departure from the pier at 8 AM, very personalized itinerary). We settled on the itinerary and price, she asked for a Wise transfer for a 30% deposit, confirmed receipt of the deposit. Then 30 minutes later, she messaged me to say she was canceling everything because it was impossible to do the requested tour—and promised a quick refund of my deposit.
So here’s my question: Who’s done a *real* private tour on this lake? Who can recommend a reliable agency? Is it even really possible to do a private tour here?
Hi,
I wanted to get some info about the cable car and the bridge—I see lots of different options...
How much time should we allow for these two activities? If we arrive around 4 PM, will we have enough time to visit without rushing?
Thanks
I’m searching for a real gem for my 3rd stay in Koh Lanta: a lovely, high-quality hotel right by an easily accessible beach in a lively spot.
If you know of anything that fits what I’m looking for and want to share, don’t hesitate!
Hi,
On September 1st, we're heading to Kalimantan for six weeks, probably from Pontianak to the Derawan Islands.
I've scoured this site, which is usually my go-to 😉, and others like VoyageForum, but recent info is pretty scarce.
I'd love any tips on places you've visited—our itinerary is still a work in progress.
We're two couples traveling with backpacks, using buses, boats, guesthouses, and homestays.
Thanks in advance!
Hi! I’d like to split my trip into two parts: 15 days in Phuket and 15 days in Krabi. Do you know if I can rent a car and drop it off in Krabi when I fly back to France?
Thanks for your feedback!
Have a great Sunday!
Martine
Hi, is anyone there in Flores right now? According to some websites, everything is closed and the situation is tough. But our guide says it's fine. Who should we believe? We're supposed to leave on September 2nd. Thanks to anyone in Flores at the moment!
Hi dear community,
I'm planning to visit Cambodia this winter, right after Christmas, for my first solo trip and my first trip to Asia. For two weeks (yes, I know it's short, but I really can't do more...). I have two main desires: Siem Reap and the countryside, the villages, the Mekong...
What do you think of this itinerary? Arrival in Siem Reap, departure from Phnom Penh.
SR: 5 days (1 day for arrival, 3 for the temples, 1 for the lake and its villages)
Kratie (stop on the way to Mondolkiri): 3 days (1 day of travel, 2 days there)
Mondolkiri/Sen Monorom: 4 days (1 day of travel, 1 day there, 2 days of treks)
PP: 3 days (1 day of travel, 2 days of sightseeing)
I think I need to cut one day somewhere if I travel from Saturday to Saturday or Sunday to Sunday. In Kratie, maybe? Or in PP? And I'll miss the boat trip that everyone recommends (SR-Battambang), but I don't see where to fit it in. Unless I do a PP-PP loop starting in the east, skip Kratie or just stay one night, then SR, then PP.
In my timing, Mondolkiri seems closer than Ratanakiri, which also tempted me a lot! Will it be too complicated alone? I'm thinking of using local guides or a small local agency for a nature and village getaway.
I've read that Siem Reap is very crowded between Christmas and New Year's. I could also do the circuit in the opposite direction. But I thought it would be easier to get familiar with the country by arriving in a touristy area—I might be wrong...
Thanks for your advice and opinions!
Hi everyone.
I’m planning my trip, and based on all the posts I’ve read, this country is amazing.
Of course, I’ve got a ton of questions for you.
Here’s a possible itinerary: Vientiane - Vang Vieng - Phonsavan - Sam Neua - Nong Khiaw + villages - Phongsali - Luang Namtha and the area - Udomxai - Huay Xai - Luang Prabang and back to Vientiane.
What do you think?
We’re planning to prioritize local transport—is it possible to do this loop?
We’d also love to go kayaking, but I’m not sure if the season’s right or where the best spot is.
For trekking—I read that Phongsali is the most authentic spot to visit villages and see wildlife. Do you know of a reliable agency and a guesthouse with reasonable prices?
Is it worth taking a slow boat for a stretch on the Mekong, and if so, which route?
For accommodations, is it better to book through Booking.com and Agoda or look when we arrive?
Are mosquitoes bad in Laos, and should we take malaria prophylaxis?
What’s the average daily budget (accommodation, food, visits)?
Is renting scooters a good option for exploring towns, and if so, which ones?
From what I’ve read, it’s best to carry cash—euros or dollars? Is it risky to walk around with that much cash?
I’ve still got tons of questions. Thanks to anyone who can help, and I’m open to all tips, info, etc.
Thanks again
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Vietnam in February, specifically Da Nang and Hoi An.
Does anyone know a French-speaking guide in the area?
Thanks for your help
Hi there,
I’m planning a family trip (my wife and I, both 47, and our two sons, aged 5 and 12) to Malaysia for the last week of June and the first two weeks of July 2027.
We used to love road trips as a couple, then as a trio, but since our second child arrived, we’ve taken a break with "camping village" style trips.
Now feels like the right time to get back to our old habits, while adjusting the pace for the kids.
We’re craving Asia. We’ve been lucky enough to visit Thailand, Indonesia (Bali and Lombok), and Sri Lanka before.
Friends have raved about Malaysia, so we’re definitely tempted.
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Hello,
We’re a family of four with two teens aged 16 and 18. We’re heading to Thailand this summer. We’ll arrive in Bangkok and plan to take a flight to Luang Prabang.
I’ve seen there are some great visits and excursions to do (temples, markets, waterfalls) and maybe even venture a bit north to places like Nong Khiaw, Muang Xay, Muang Ngoy, or Oudom Xay.
But I’ve also heard about the Bokeo region with the Gibbon Experience.
Since we won’t be able to do everything, I’d love to hear about your experiences, impressions, and advice on the two options I’m considering, especially since we’ll be meeting family in Chiang Mai, Thailand, afterward.
Option 1: A loop from Luang Prabang heading slightly north, then a flight from Luang Prabang to Chiang Mai.
Option 2: A few days in Luang Prabang, exploring within a few dozen kilometers around, then heading to Bokeo province for the 2-day/1-night Gibbon Experience. For this option, I saw on Rome2Rio that it’s possible to book a ferry trip on the Mekong from Luang Prabang to Huay Xay—they mention about 8 hours. But is that realistic? What type of boat is it?
Then, to get to Chiang Mai, there aren’t many options—bus or minivan—but how does crossing the border work?
Finally, for those of you who’ve been to Laos in August, what was the weather like?
We’ve already visited Thailand, Vietnam, and Cambodia during the same period over the past four years and weren’t really bothered by bad weather.
I’m starting a discussion about guides in the Mekong Delta because we’ve just finished our trip in this region and had a hard time finding a French-speaking guide. We had Thanh—she speaks French really well and travels all over the delta region, including Ho Chi Minh City. She’s super friendly and flexible. I recommend her wholeheartedly. If it can help someone...
Feel free to contact us for her number.
Hi everyone,
I couldn’t find any recent info on Kuching.
Can anyone recommend a hotel or guesthouse for under 100 RM that’s nice and affordable? No dorms, please.
Also, does it rain a lot in November, and is it still worth visiting Semenggoh or Bako?
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you?
If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip?
I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Hi there,
I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...
After a stay on Koh Phayam this coming November, I’d like to spend 2 or 3 days on Koh Phra Thong before heading further south.
Do you think it’s doable to leave Koh Phayam early enough to catch the 10 AM boat from Khura Buri to Koh Phra Thong? The next one isn’t until 4 PM, which would cost me a whole day.
I’m planning a trip to Indonesia, specifically Sulawesi and Java, in September for 10 days.
I don’t know this part of the world at all—any advice is welcome!
I’ll be traveling solo and would also love tips on meeting other travelers or locals.
Hello everyone,
Not long ago, I used to travel as a couple, but my husband has since passed away, and I’ve decided to set off again. The trip I took to Cambodia in January 2025 did me a world of good.
I’m now considering Thailand, a destination we never included in our plans because even 15 years ago, people said it was too touristy. Still, I’m thinking about the itinerary below, but I don’t feel up to arranging buses, trains, or guides on my own while I’m there. I’m looking for one or more drivers and have been in touch with an agency, but their offers are just copy-paste group tours that I don’t want.
So, if you have any contacts, experiences, or advice, I’d be so grateful if you’d share them with me. Here’s my rough plan:
Arrival in Bangkok
Ayutthaya (2 nights)
Kanchanaburi (2 or 3 nights)
Sangkhlaburi/Sai Yok (3 nights)
Sukhothai (2 nights)
Lampang (I’ve planned 3 nights, but that might be a bit much—it depends on what time I arrive in the city)
Chiang Mai
Chiang Dao
Pai
Chiang Rai
I was thinking about the Mae Hong Son loop—thoughts?
What do you think about staying overnight at the Golden Triangle?
When I look online, of course, I can find agencies that organize tours to national parks, etc.
I’m retired but in great physical shape. I’d rather go hiking than sit in hot springs with crowds of tourists who’ve all arranged meet-ups. I don’t want to spend a day at an elephant camp, and I don’t want to visit Karen villages.
I’d love to hear your advice.
Thank you all,
Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
Hi,
From Malacca to get to Jerantut, is it better to go back to KL and take a bus from there, or take a bus to Tampin and then a train? Any feedback on the "Jungle Train"? (duration, price, comfort, etc.). Thanks
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur
Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral.
Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo).
Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok:
* Orangutan Center
* Malayan Sun Bear Center
* Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan.
Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari.
Jungle walk.
Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari.
Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port.
Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar
5 full days.
* Snorkeling
* Hiking
* Turtle watching
* Wild beaches
* Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland.
Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Flores and then Bali at the end of September.
We’ve already visited both but this time, once we’re in Labuan Bajo, we’d like to take a boat to the Komodo Islands to see the famous Komodo dragons.
I don’t want to sleep on the boat—just a day trip would be perfect.
Does anyone know a reliable and friendly provider to recommend?
Thanks in advance, and have a great summer!
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali.
And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people!
So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops):
- 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud
2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa)
1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...)
- 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces)
- 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai
- 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed)
- 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island)
- 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan)
- 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels.
Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?)
Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?)
Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027:
- Phnom Penh
- Kampong Cham
- Kratie
- Siem Reap
- Battambang
- Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights.
Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above.
Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations:
We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights:
The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1:
We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2:
This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3:
With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4:
Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings.
We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops.
In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5:
Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6:
This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8:
Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10:
On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12:
We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines.
Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment.
We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15:
From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP).
We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning.
We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise.
Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16:
We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town.
It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view.
We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise.
In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911.
On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city.
We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17:
Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning.
Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in.
The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances:
In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary:
Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional.
Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.