Je viens de passer quelques minutes à lire quelques échanges apparemment houleux sur ce forum à propos du tourisme solidaire au Maroc.Ayant l'habitude de voyager en routard, je prépares déjà notre futur séjour.J'ai constaté sur le net qu'il existe une multitude d'agence relevant du tourisme solidaire et pour tout vous dire je n'y connait absolument rien dans leurs démarches et façons de faire.Au travers de cela je cherches seulement à connaitre des adresses sûres pour vivre chez l'habitants (4 adultes) côté Marrackech, et des gens du coin pour nous faire découvrir leur pays.Nous sommes des gens simples, ne cherchant pas spécialement "du plein la vue" mais plutôt de l'authentique.
Maroc chez l'habitant
by Pitos
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Bonjour à tous
Je viens de passer quelques minutes à lire quelques échanges apparemment houleux sur ce forum à propos du tourisme solidaire au Maroc.Ayant l'habitude de voyager en routard, je prépares déjà notre futur séjour.J'ai constaté sur le net qu'il existe une multitude d'agence relevant du tourisme solidaire et pour tout vous dire je n'y connait absolument rien dans leurs démarches et façons de faire.Au travers de cela je cherches seulement à connaitre des adresses sûres pour vivre chez l'habitants (4 adultes) côté Marrackech, et des gens du coin pour nous faire découvrir leur pays.Nous sommes des gens simples, ne cherchant pas spécialement "du plein la vue" mais plutôt de l'authentique.
Je viens de passer quelques minutes à lire quelques échanges apparemment houleux sur ce forum à propos du tourisme solidaire au Maroc.Ayant l'habitude de voyager en routard, je prépares déjà notre futur séjour.J'ai constaté sur le net qu'il existe une multitude d'agence relevant du tourisme solidaire et pour tout vous dire je n'y connait absolument rien dans leurs démarches et façons de faire.Au travers de cela je cherches seulement à connaitre des adresses sûres pour vivre chez l'habitants (4 adultes) côté Marrackech, et des gens du coin pour nous faire découvrir leur pays.Nous sommes des gens simples, ne cherchant pas spécialement "du plein la vue" mais plutôt de l'authentique.
Après 40 tours du soleil et quelques escapades, toujours la même envie d'aller vers l'inconnu
Bonsoir,
"""une multitude d'agence relevant du tourisme solidaire """
Ben oui, puisque c'est à la mode et que tous les gogos tombent dedans! Ces agences ne "relèvent" pas !!! il n'y a pas de labellisation autre que l'autoproclamation ! Et comment se dire solidaire, quand on se fait payer en Euros en Europe ?? il y a surement des déperditions.
Le tourisme chez l'habitant, dit "solidaire" n'existe que confidentiellement au Maroc, soit par des particuliers qui ont créé des chambres spéciales touristes pour un revenu au noir, et qui n'a rien du "chez l'habitant", ou par des assocs francaises, qui se sucrent sur le dos du client et de l'habitant, certaines ont des marges bénéficiaires de plus de 50 %, ce qu'aucune agence commerciale, qui paye des impots, n'oserait faire. Mais ça permet aux bénévoles de se ballader à l'oeil.
Rien de plus "solidaire" et "authentique" que la multitude de petites auberges, gites, hotels de campagne, à petit prix, avec un nombre restreint de chambres, un vrai acceuil, un vrai accompagnement, comme on en trouve partout et que l'on cite régulièrement sur ce forum.
""Ayant l'habitude de voyager en routard, je prépares déjà notre futur séjour.J'ai constaté sur le net qu'il existe une multitude d'agence ................""
Si tu as l'habitude de voyager en Routard, inutile de contacter ces agences, les petits hébergements sympas, sont rarement dedans.
"""une multitude d'agence relevant du tourisme solidaire """
Ben oui, puisque c'est à la mode et que tous les gogos tombent dedans! Ces agences ne "relèvent" pas !!! il n'y a pas de labellisation autre que l'autoproclamation ! Et comment se dire solidaire, quand on se fait payer en Euros en Europe ?? il y a surement des déperditions.
Le tourisme chez l'habitant, dit "solidaire" n'existe que confidentiellement au Maroc, soit par des particuliers qui ont créé des chambres spéciales touristes pour un revenu au noir, et qui n'a rien du "chez l'habitant", ou par des assocs francaises, qui se sucrent sur le dos du client et de l'habitant, certaines ont des marges bénéficiaires de plus de 50 %, ce qu'aucune agence commerciale, qui paye des impots, n'oserait faire. Mais ça permet aux bénévoles de se ballader à l'oeil.
Rien de plus "solidaire" et "authentique" que la multitude de petites auberges, gites, hotels de campagne, à petit prix, avec un nombre restreint de chambres, un vrai acceuil, un vrai accompagnement, comme on en trouve partout et que l'on cite régulièrement sur ce forum.
""Ayant l'habitude de voyager en routard, je prépares déjà notre futur séjour.J'ai constaté sur le net qu'il existe une multitude d'agence ................""
Si tu as l'habitude de voyager en Routard, inutile de contacter ces agences, les petits hébergements sympas, sont rarement dedans.
Justement, toi qui connait bien le Maroc, peux tu nous donner des adresses, des noms, autour de Marrakech ???
Cordialement.
Cordialement.
Après 40 tours du soleil et quelques escapades, toujours la même envie d'aller vers l'inconnu
Bonsoir à tous,
Pour avoir "pratiqué" je peux témoigner qu'il existe des gens qui font du tourisme intelligent et SOLIDAIRE (seuls les gens du pays perçoivent l'argent des circuits c'est une certitude), avec leur coeur, comme le guide de cette agence locale que je connais, qui ne fait pas de bruit mais enchante le voyageur en lui faisant découvrir son pays et son désert.
A bon entendeur...
Bonjour,
J'ai une famille d'amis marocain qui serait suceptible de pouvoir recevoir des personnes pour quelques jours, ils se situent dans le quartier de massira qui est un quartier populaire de marrackech.Je les contacte et vous apporte un reponse sous peu.
Ouais! Justice oblige, je vous prie de comdamner le capitalisme pas les Marrakchis une fois votre voyage tire à sa fin.😉bonne vacances
Pierre qui roule n'amasse pas mousse..
J'ai lu votre lettre et j'ai compris tout de suite votre volenté de sympatiser avec les habitants du maroc;A ce propos moi j'habite à la campagne en atlas pas trés trés loin de marrakech et si vous voulez bien! j'ai tout ce qu' ils vous faut exactement comme vous venez d'annoncer.j'ai une petite maison avec jardin bien situés, lever et coucher du soleil;gorges, riviérre à l'eau claire plus des gens bérbères trés sympatique avec tout le monde.N-B:ce n'est pas que je fait de pub OU ANNONCE NON ET NONà moi ou à mon petit village mais quand méme c'est vrai.et d'ailleurs je suis infirmier, je gagne ma vie pas mal, alors je n'attendrai de vous que l'amitié, échanges et passer des bons moments ensemble et avec ma famille.mon adresse est:aziz ben hachem -kasbah berrem- midelt-maroc- tel:(212) (0)16210037.contactez-moi pour plus d'information.voilà futures amis et faites-moi signes d'abord ok?
aziz l'infirmier ksar berrem midelt
Bonjour belkaid,
je viens de voir ton message, mon mari et moi nous allons venir au maroc fin septembre 2008, avec notre voiture. Et nous avions l'intention de nous arrêter à Fès ou Meknès, avant d'aller rejoindre nos amis à Goulmima. Je serais intéressée de prendre ton adresse et ton téléphone, pour peut être venir chez toi. En attendant je te souhaite bon week end.
Hasardii, a lire ta fiche perso..tu a l'air d'être la clientèle parfaite à plumer ...
" ..1.350 dhs la location d'un 4x4 pour la journée ..." c'est du vol manifeste ....
Bonjour,
qu'est ce que tu veux tout le monde n'est pas parfait, nous avions en plus demandé à plusieurs agences de l'occasion et toutes tourner autour de 125 €, il faut dire que c'était un modèle récent de toyota et nous étions 4.
qu'est ce que tu veux tout le monde n'est pas parfait, nous avions en plus demandé à plusieurs agences de l'occasion et toutes tourner autour de 125 €, il faut dire que c'était un modèle récent de toyota et nous étions 4.
une partie de maison, près du jardin Majorelle à Marrakech pour un prix raisonnable
Si cela vous intéresse je suis à votre disposition pour de plus amples😉 renseignements
seccotinedbx
"Respecte avant de vouloir être respecté"
"Respecte avant de vouloir être respecté"
Bonjour,
En pleine saison, 1350dh, c'est le prix de base de location d'un 4x4 en bon état (apparent!) chez les loueurs qui ont une certaine notoriété sur Marrakech. Medloc est un peu moins cher, mais l'ordre de grandeur est sensiblement le meme.
On trouve effectivement moins cher, mais pas si facilement que cela, et je serais circonspect sur l'état .......
En pleine saison, 1350dh, c'est le prix de base de location d'un 4x4 en bon état (apparent!) chez les loueurs qui ont une certaine notoriété sur Marrakech. Medloc est un peu moins cher, mais l'ordre de grandeur est sensiblement le meme.
On trouve effectivement moins cher, mais pas si facilement que cela, et je serais circonspect sur l'état .......
Alors, ça drôlement augmenté depuis quelques années ..
Je pensais bien moins cher ...
Bonjour,
Je serais à Marrakech du 27/07/08 au 08/08/08 avec ma filleule de 11 ans. Sac à dos et souhait de rencontrer des marocains. Je fais aussi partie d'Hospitality Club (France-Normandie-Caen-Marty14) et je reçois assez fréquemment des jeunes étrangers de passage. Je souhaiterais que nous soyons accueillies le temps de trouver un petit hôtel ou un hébergement via Hospitality, mais je n'ai pas encore eu le temps de regarder. Merci pour ta réponse.
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1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Hi,
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)