Maroc: passer par la vallée du Paradis en venant de Marrakech?
by Capucine33
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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bonjour,
dans notre circuit au Maroc mi mars 2011 nous aimerions passer par la vallée du paradis mais en arrivant de Marrakech
souvent les indications sont données en venant d' Agadir 😕
pouvez vous me dire si cette vallée est en impasse et si non par où passer en venant de la N8 ?
nous aurions aussi la possibilité de prendre une route qui relie la N8 à la N1 qui longe plus la côte atlantique . cette route existe elle ?
notre idée est de ne pas passer ni par essaoura ni par agadir
auriez vous une bonne adresse pour dormir ( et manger? )
l'hôtel des cascades ne me tente pas
merci à vous pour toutes vos propositions
capucine
de marakech a agadir il existe une autoroute
sortir de celle ci a argana, prendre la route qui va a immouzzer via tiqqi
logement a immouzzer a l'hotel des cascades (tu as le lien dans un ancien post)
depuis immouzzer pour rejoindre la nationale 1 pour essaouira prendre la route qui va a tamri
logement a immouzzer a l'hotel des cascades (tu as le lien dans un ancien post)
depuis immouzzer pour rejoindre la nationale 1 pour essaouira prendre la route qui va a tamri
merci pour cette réponse ( un peu ? ) rapide
OK pour l'autoroute puis la direction vers immozer , ceci confirme donc que la vallée n'est pas en impasse
concernant l'hôtel des cascades ( comme je le disais ) cela ne me tente pas Pourquoi ? tout à fait arbitraire, j'en conviens puisque je n'y suis jamais allée 😎 j'ai cru lire sur des commentaires de voyageurs , des critiques sévères ( le rapport qualité/ prix surtout ) et de plus , nous y irions en mars , et à cette période la piscine et les repas sur la terrasse cela fait un peu frisquet 🤪 dès lors , je n'ai pas envie de payer des prestations inutilisées
concernant la route N1 : mon idée était au départ de Marrakech de prendre la N8 ( au lieu de l'autoroute ) puis partir plein ouest et rejoindre la N1 , longer un peu la côte atlantique ( secteur de tamri ) puis avant d'arriver à agadir , prendre cette route qui remonte vers immouzer j'ai repéré aussi une route après imi n tanoute qui arrive à tamanar : ça roule bien par là ? quel serait le circuit le plus sympa ?
en cherchant sur les sites , j'ai trouvé 3 hôtels ds ce coin sur la côte : maison solaria à Tamraght et l'hôtel littoral à Aourir . dans la vallée : hotel Tifrit Qu'en pensez vous ? merci à vous
concernant l'hôtel des cascades ( comme je le disais ) cela ne me tente pas Pourquoi ? tout à fait arbitraire, j'en conviens puisque je n'y suis jamais allée 😎 j'ai cru lire sur des commentaires de voyageurs , des critiques sévères ( le rapport qualité/ prix surtout ) et de plus , nous y irions en mars , et à cette période la piscine et les repas sur la terrasse cela fait un peu frisquet 🤪 dès lors , je n'ai pas envie de payer des prestations inutilisées
concernant la route N1 : mon idée était au départ de Marrakech de prendre la N8 ( au lieu de l'autoroute ) puis partir plein ouest et rejoindre la N1 , longer un peu la côte atlantique ( secteur de tamri ) puis avant d'arriver à agadir , prendre cette route qui remonte vers immouzer j'ai repéré aussi une route après imi n tanoute qui arrive à tamanar : ça roule bien par là ? quel serait le circuit le plus sympa ?
en cherchant sur les sites , j'ai trouvé 3 hôtels ds ce coin sur la côte : maison solaria à Tamraght et l'hôtel littoral à Aourir . dans la vallée : hotel Tifrit Qu'en pensez vous ? merci à vous
capucine
Bonjour,
Si vous avez un 4x4, il vaut mieux prendre la route vers Essaouira pour longer la mer et avant d'arriver à Agadir vous prenez la piste qui mène au vallée du Paradis. Pour l'hôtel, il n y a que l'hôtel des cascades sinon vous serez obligés de prendre un à Agadir (50km entre Agadir et Immouzer)
Bonne route
Si vous avez un 4x4, il vaut mieux prendre la route vers Essaouira pour longer la mer et avant d'arriver à Agadir vous prenez la piste qui mène au vallée du Paradis. Pour l'hôtel, il n y a que l'hôtel des cascades sinon vous serez obligés de prendre un à Agadir (50km entre Agadir et Immouzer)
Bonne route
Salutations
Hind
cela veut il dire que la route dont je parle n'est praticable qu'en 4x4 ?
et les hôtels cités , ils sont pourtant ds ce secteur ...connaissez vous ?
merci
capucine
Bonjour,
Non ! cette route est entièrement goudronnée entre Marrakech, Chichaoua, Imintanoute, carrefour aus environs d'Argane, bien indiqué Immouzer, et la cote. L'hotel des cacades à Immouzer, est facile à trouver, mais il y a plusieurs maisons d'hotes aussi dans le secteur. En flanant , compter 6/7 h pour Marrakech Agadir.
les gens qui te disent qu'il faut un 4x4 ont peut etre intéret à te détouner vers leur secteur ?? va savoir ??
Non ! cette route est entièrement goudronnée entre Marrakech, Chichaoua, Imintanoute, carrefour aus environs d'Argane, bien indiqué Immouzer, et la cote. L'hotel des cacades à Immouzer, est facile à trouver, mais il y a plusieurs maisons d'hotes aussi dans le secteur. En flanant , compter 6/7 h pour Marrakech Agadir.
les gens qui te disent qu'il faut un 4x4 ont peut etre intéret à te détouner vers leur secteur ?? va savoir ??
et les hôtels cités , ils sont pourtant ds ce secteur ...connaissez vous ?
merci
je relance ma question 😉 un autre hébergement que l'hôtel des cascades ? j'ai repéré maison solaria et hôtel littoral à Aourir et l'hôtel tifrit qu'en pensez vous ? merci
je relance ma question 😉 un autre hébergement que l'hôtel des cascades ? j'ai repéré maison solaria et hôtel littoral à Aourir et l'hôtel tifrit qu'en pensez vous ? merci
capucine
....hummm ! cela n'engage pas vraiment 😕 à moins de demander une chambre à l'arrière ?
l'auberge tifrit me tente assez , je cherchais un hebergement en bord de mer mais nous trouverons certainement notre bonheur au sud d' Agadir ( 2 ème étape ) reste cette possibilité de la maison solaria .... au final , je préfère un endroit plus reculé mais calme , propre , accueillant et une bonne table qu'un superbe bloc de béton froid et impersonnel en bord de mer
l'auberge tifrit me tente assez , je cherchais un hebergement en bord de mer mais nous trouverons certainement notre bonheur au sud d' Agadir ( 2 ème étape ) reste cette possibilité de la maison solaria .... au final , je préfère un endroit plus reculé mais calme , propre , accueillant et une bonne table qu'un superbe bloc de béton froid et impersonnel en bord de mer
capucine
Bonsoir,
C'est pas sûr que cette route est praticable par des voitures normales, beh à ma connaissance!! Concernant, les hôtels je ne peux pas vous informer puisque je ne les connais pas.
N.B: J'habite à Fès (qui se situe au centre-nord du Maroc) donc tout à fait loin du Sud marocain ... alors je n'ai aucun intérêt à détourner personne vers mon secteur qui est loin de ce que quelques personnes pensent !!
C'est pas sûr que cette route est praticable par des voitures normales, beh à ma connaissance!! Concernant, les hôtels je ne peux pas vous informer puisque je ne les connais pas.
N.B: J'habite à Fès (qui se situe au centre-nord du Maroc) donc tout à fait loin du Sud marocain ... alors je n'ai aucun intérêt à détourner personne vers mon secteur qui est loin de ce que quelques personnes pensent !!
Salutations
Hind
Bonjour,
* **** C'est pas sûr que cette route est praticable par des voitures normales, beh à ma connaissance!! Concernant, les hôtels je ne peux pas vous informer puisque je ne les connais pas ****
Quel est l'intéret, alors de répondre à ce message, sinon de jeter le trouble et de multiplier les hors sujets !!
Cette route , je la connais goudronnée depuis presque 2 ans , et l'ai empruntée le 8 novembre dernier , le seul problème , est la masse des minibus des TO d'Agadir! ca roule vite et ça se gare pas ces bètes la!
* **** C'est pas sûr que cette route est praticable par des voitures normales, beh à ma connaissance!! Concernant, les hôtels je ne peux pas vous informer puisque je ne les connais pas ****
Quel est l'intéret, alors de répondre à ce message, sinon de jeter le trouble et de multiplier les hors sujets !!
Cette route , je la connais goudronnée depuis presque 2 ans , et l'ai empruntée le 8 novembre dernier , le seul problème , est la masse des minibus des TO d'Agadir! ca roule vite et ça se gare pas ces bètes la!
La route goudronnée de Marrakech jusqu'à Imouzzer Ida Outanae en passant par Essaouira, Tamanar et Taghazout puis à gauche vous montez la montagne jusqu'à Imouzzer des Ida ou Tanae.
Sinon, la route dont j'ai parlé comme piste, on arrive pas à Taghazout on tourne à gauche avant, c'est plus proche mais il y a la piste d'où la nécessité d'un 4x4!!!
En plus, le trajet que vous indiquez est montagnard et ne longe pas la mer comme demande la dame ... c'est un trajet montagnard!!
Pour l'hebergement, il y a l’hôtel les cascades et chez l'habitant dans Imouzzer.
/* "Concernant, les hôtels je ne peux pas vous informer puisque je ne les connais pas" Quel est l'intéret, alors de répondre à ce message, sinon de jeter le trouble et de multiplier les hors sujets !! */ Je pense que la nécessité de savoir TOUT n'est pas une condition pour pouvoir répondre à un sujet.
Et finalement, répondre à un message juste pour jeter le trouble et multiplier les hors sujets, ce n'est pas ma spécialité comme vous pouvez le constater puisque vous participez à tous les sujets.
En plus, le trajet que vous indiquez est montagnard et ne longe pas la mer comme demande la dame ... c'est un trajet montagnard!!
Pour l'hebergement, il y a l’hôtel les cascades et chez l'habitant dans Imouzzer.
/* "Concernant, les hôtels je ne peux pas vous informer puisque je ne les connais pas" Quel est l'intéret, alors de répondre à ce message, sinon de jeter le trouble et de multiplier les hors sujets !! */ Je pense que la nécessité de savoir TOUT n'est pas une condition pour pouvoir répondre à un sujet.
Et finalement, répondre à un message juste pour jeter le trouble et multiplier les hors sujets, ce n'est pas ma spécialité comme vous pouvez le constater puisque vous participez à tous les sujets.
Salutations
Hind
En plus, le trajet que vous indiquez est montagnard et ne longe pas la mer comme demande la dame ... c'est un trajet montagnard!!
merci à tous la "dame" ( hi hi hi 😏 )pense qu'elle ne s'est pas bien exprimée lorsqu'elle décrit la route repérée sur une carte ... je NE VEUX PAS aller à essaouira , je pensais prendre la N 8 ( Chichaoua - Imi n tanoute -et juste après tourner à droite vers Jbel igrane ? et ressortir vers Tamanar ) ce coin là , j'en conviens doit etre montagnard est ce celui ci que les TO empruntent à fond de train ? ensuite , la dame pensait longer la côte vers tamri et prendre ensuite la vallée du paradis ( rassurez moi , c'est bien en bord de mer cette route ? ) pour clarifier mon idée c'est de descendre assez vite vers agadir par une route qui aurait qd même un certain intérêt . par ce trajet , je pense combiner de la montagne et de la mer merci à vous si vous pouvez encore m'éclairer la dame capucine
merci à tous la "dame" ( hi hi hi 😏 )pense qu'elle ne s'est pas bien exprimée lorsqu'elle décrit la route repérée sur une carte ... je NE VEUX PAS aller à essaouira , je pensais prendre la N 8 ( Chichaoua - Imi n tanoute -et juste après tourner à droite vers Jbel igrane ? et ressortir vers Tamanar ) ce coin là , j'en conviens doit etre montagnard est ce celui ci que les TO empruntent à fond de train ? ensuite , la dame pensait longer la côte vers tamri et prendre ensuite la vallée du paradis ( rassurez moi , c'est bien en bord de mer cette route ? ) pour clarifier mon idée c'est de descendre assez vite vers agadir par une route qui aurait qd même un certain intérêt . par ce trajet , je pense combiner de la montagne et de la mer merci à vous si vous pouvez encore m'éclairer la dame capucine
capucine
la "dame" ( hi hi hi 😏 )
Est ce que ça vous dérange le mot "dame"?!! si oui je suis désolée!
Est ce que ça vous dérange le mot "dame"?!! si oui je suis désolée!
Salutations
Hind
non, non , pas du tout : c'est très mignon
cela donne un côté " vieille France " où je me sens un peu décalée
bonne nuit , Monseigneur😉 ou gente dame ?
capucine
bonne nuit , Monseigneur😉 ou gente dame ?
🙂 Jeune demoiselle. Désolée, je vous parle avec mon français marocain alors je ne connais pas les subtilités de la langue française actuelle ... je ne connais pas votre âge ni votre situation familiale donc je m'excuse si c'est décalé par rapport à votre statut.
Bonne nuit Madame ou Mademoiselle 😉
🙂 Jeune demoiselle. Désolée, je vous parle avec mon français marocain alors je ne connais pas les subtilités de la langue française actuelle ... je ne connais pas votre âge ni votre situation familiale donc je m'excuse si c'est décalé par rapport à votre statut.
Bonne nuit Madame ou Mademoiselle 😉
Salutations
Hind
je ne veux pas faire la coquette mais ma capucine a déjà quelques printemps au compteur 😉
capucine
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We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
A lot of people find it important to stick to their budget when traveling—not to skimp, but to visit as many places as possible since traveling is their hobby.
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
Thanks in advance.
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
Thanks in advance.
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Hi,
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Hi there,
Can anyone tell me if it's possible to travel from the Dades Gorges (Msemrir) to the Todra Gorges (Tamtatouche) on a paved road? Thanks in advance for any answers.
Hello,
We’d like to hire a French-speaking guide (agency, professional, or volunteer) to show us around Cairo over three days.
Trip planned for November 22, 23, and 24, 2026—four veteran French travelers.
We’re open to any leads, contact info, or suggestions.
Best regards,
Jacques
Hi there,
I have a layover in Algeria.
I won’t be leaving the airport.
The two tickets aren’t with the same airline.
Do I need a transit visa?
Thanks for any details and your help!
Hi there,
I live in Casablanca and my parents, who are 80, will be joining me in Marrakech at the beginning of May for a few days.
We’ll be renting a car to get around.
Do you have any suggestions for things to see or visit within a 2-3 hour drive max from Marrakech that aren’t too touristy?
My parents can walk a bit, but at 80, no climbing Mount Toubkal!
Thanks so much in advance for your ideas!
Hi everyone, just back from the 8-day Marrakech-Merzouga loop by car, and I’d love to share my feedback in case it helps some of you. Big thanks to all the forum members who kindly answered my questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Hi there,
I’m traveling solo to Egypt. Could you give me a rough idea of the budget for:
meals
hotels
taxis including tips
visits...
Just an estimate, of course.
For 15 days, what would the price range be, considering there’s an overnight train and a Nile cruise?
I’d like to compare with a travel agency. Is it more worthwhile to go through an agency despite the downsides of group travel?
Otherwise, if a travel buddy is interested in this country, why not?
Thanks a lot!
