Après avoir concocté un itinéraire qui me parait sympatoche (
mercredi casablanca
jeudi casablanca
vendredi merzouga nuit bivouac dans le désert
samedi merzouga
dimanche fès
lundi fès
mardi fès
mercredi marrakech
jeudi marrakech
vendredi marrakech )
Je viens à la pêche aux infos !
Tout d'abord, peut-être y aurait-il l'ombre d'une hypothèse, l'esquisse d'une possibilité que vous envisagiez éventuellement de me transmettre quelques tuyaux concernant Marrakech et Fès !!? Des petits endroits pittoresques, des paysages atypiques, des monuments pas communs !!
En bref, Qu'y voir ? Suis certain qu'il y a parmi vous des locaux qui connaissent la beauté de leur pays...
Et une deuxième requête :
L'immonde beauf que je suis a besoin de sa dose de foot. Mercredi prochain, ya Barcelone-Lyon en Champions League et je ne veux pas manquer ça, connaitriez vous des bars où on peut voir une retransmission en direct du match à Marrakech ? Sivouplait...
En tous les cas, je vous remercie beaucoup de toutes vos réponses ! Bravo à vous ! Z'êtes les meilleurs !
Alors c'est un autre beauf qui te répond. Partout dans les cafés populaires que ce soit à Marrakech ou ailleurs. Tu vas voir, c'est une expérience à vivre. Et puis tu seras pas seul, tous les supporters du Réal viendront enquiquiner les supporters du barça et encourager Lyon.
Oui, sympatoche ton itinéraire, sauf que je pense que tu n'as pas trop la notion des distances qui séparent chaque point.
Bonjour,
Oui il eut été plus judicieux, si vous voulez faire ces villes là, de faire au moins une boucle et non ces ziz zag !
par exemple Casa - Fès - Marrakech - Merzouga - Marrakech.
Déjà en kilomètres ça fait beaucoup, mais en temps réel passé sur les routes ça fait beaucoup plus !
" Nous ne saurons jamais tout le bien qu'un simple sourire peut être capable de faire."
Mère Teresa
On va direct à Merzouga après avoir atteri à casa puisque il va pleuvoir partout et que cela me semble etre la seule région où on aura du soleil !
J'ai choisi fès après puisque apparrmment il y aura encore de la flotte mais je sais que Fès est une ville culturelle, voir les monuments, les musées sous la pluie c'est pas grave ! alors que Marrakesh se déguste plus avec du soleil je pense et il y ayra plus de cette denrée rare (lol) en fin de séjour, d'où mon itinéraire en train un peu zigzaguant.
En plus de ça, les voyages se feront de nuit, donc...
Si vous pouviez quand même me répondre quant à ma question initiale, quel petit coin secret, pittoresque, quels petite place à voir, ou paysage, ou établissement visiter à Fès et marrakech ? Des trucs vraiments magiques en dehors des guides touristiques quoi ! Jsuis sûr que vous connaissez ! Pis un hotel propre à Fès aussi si c'est pas trop demandé... Hihihi !
C'est toi qui as fait supprimer les messages concernant ton voyage en train ? Courageux, hein, mais tu as eu peur que le ridicule te tue ? Tu as de la chance que la modération efface n'importe quoi ces temps-ci, ça aurait fait rigoler bien du monde demain matin.
Franchement, tu aurais mérité qu'on te laisse prendre le train de Casa pour Merzouga avec changement à Meknès, puis le train de Merzouga pour Fès.
Danielle
A man, a plan, a canal, Panama - palindrome, auteur inconnu
Mais je n'ai rien demandé du tout ! je n'ai pas demandé à ce que les messages soient supprimés ! De quel droit me parlez vous comme cela !!
Et qu'y a t-il de si terrible d'aller à Merzouga ? Oui on y va en train, on n'a pas le choix du transport. Oui on débarque de l'avion à casablanca. Pas de ma faute. oui on part directement à merzouga puisque il pleuvra partout ailleurs. y trouvez vous à redire ? Oui nous partons après pour Fès et marrakech mais vous auriez préférez que l'on fasse Ouarzazate et agadir comme les beaufs ?
merci de ne pas utilisez de termes insultants, ce forum ne sert que pour préparez des voyages divertissants. je vous répondrai bien ce que je pense réellement de vous mais mon message sera supprimé...
Et qu'y a t-il de si terrible d'aller à Merzouga ? Oui on y va en train
Tu l'as trouvé où ta ligne de train !!! c'est ce qu'elle a voulu te dire !!!! je crois. Dés fois on se demande si vous prenez une carte michelin pour savoir ce qu'l existe.
Fés et marrakech, merzouga, il y a aussi les beaufs!!!, c'est super classique.
Par contre tu pourras nous dire si les marocains suportent lyon ou barcelone, moi je pari qu'il préfère barcelone. J'aimerai avoir la réponse s'il te plait.
Quelqu'un pourrait il proposer un itinéraire qui sort des sentiers battus alors!
Le Maroc est un pays hyper touristique, toutes les grandes villes, le sont devenues aussi, je pense qu'il faut laisser rèver les gens qui ne sont jamais aller, la ou d'autres sont déja aller maintes fois.
Pour ma part, je vais aller a mon aise vers Merzouga, en septembre, et peut m'importe les commentaires, ce sera ma première visite ds la vallée du Dadès,
et j'en rève déja.
Sur ce forum, tout le monde vient chercher des conseils, et pas des reproches.
Suggérer a ce jeune homme, gentiement de changer son itinéraire, est une bonne chose, c'est ce qu'il demandait je crois,
Et je suis certain, qu'il sait qu'après Marrakech, il n'y a plus de train!!
Ca a du facher quelqu'un que je lui dise que le train n'éxistait pas et que de ridicule, son itinéraire devenait "délirant ".
Ca a du facher aussi quelqu'un que je lui conseille un hotel correct à Fes (à condition qu'il ait le temps d'y aller !!).
Casa >> Merzouga, en train + bus, + taxi c'est 2 jours pleins, et encore, à condition de bien connaitre le fonctionnement.
Merzouga fes, en transports publics, pas moins d'une dizaine d'heures de route pure, à rajouter les correspondances et les attentes..
Et maintenant si ça fache encore, modérons, modérons!
et pendant que les messages d'information s'évaporent, les messages de pubs, d'humour vaseux, et d'engueulades pullulent !!
bonjour
a mons avis quand tu donne un conseil ou tu aide qq pour faciliter le trajet de son itineraire ;il faut pas critiquer son accord ou pas sur celui ci car chaqu un se debrouille comme il veut
Pour recaler les billes, je n'ai pas dis de choses vexantes, c'est lui qui dit au départ """ Oui nous partons après pour Fès et marrakech mais vous auriez préférez que l'on fasse Ouarzazate et agadir comme les beaufs ? """" ce qui n'est pas sympa pour ceux qui le font.
Par contre lui donner des conseils sur un itinéraire sympa hors sentier battu c'est compliqué vu son approche assez bizarre, aller à Merzouga en train, il ne faut pas s'être trop renseigné pour dire une pareil bêtise.
Je ne partirai pas avec des gens en voyage aussi peu renseigné mais bon c'est pas mon problème.
Pour sortir des sentiers battus, tu prends les routes jaunes du guide michelin, après tu essaies les blanches et ensuite, les poinillés noirs et enfin le hors piste.
Pour être plus précis, il faudraque la question soit plus précise et la je passe la main à "RAOULX", à qui je dis salut.
J'ai oublié, tu as raison, il faut faire merzouga, le dadès, mhamid, ... j'ai tout fait comme tout le monde et je ne regrette pas d'avoir fait le "beauf", on peut tous faire la même chose mais aussi différement, suivant sa façon de vivre.
Sans rancune.
Cela n'a rien à voir mais j'ai trouvé une offre d'embauche sur Agadir, 6000dh par mois avec logement pour un contrat de 2 ans, dommage ça suffit pas pour vivre donc une autre opportunité, peut être, salut.
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Here’s a first draft for a 14-night itinerary during the Christmas break with two teens. We’re especially fond of hiking (nothing too extreme, though), which is why we’re drawn to the south.
- Marrakech (2 nights)
- Aït Ben Haddou (1 night)
- Dadès (3 nights, though we’re thinking of doing a day trip to the Todra Gorge on one of those days)
- M'hamid (1 night)
- Erg Chigaga (1 night)
- 4 nights to slot in
- Marrakech (2 nights)
Okay, I realize this involves a lot of driving, and we’re still debating the return route since we’d like to avoid the Tichka Pass in January, but going through Taroudant seems like it would add *a lot* of time. 😕
If you’ve got other suggestions for an itinerary with great hikes, I’m all ears!
Also, the 4 nights total in MRK isn’t really our preference, but since we’re arriving/departing super early from overseas, we’d like to be a bit rested before the long flight.
Another question:
For hikes (aside from the desert one), is it better to have a guide with us, or are the trails well-marked?
Hi everyone,
Our trip to Morocco will be from November 3 to 17, in the High Atlas.
Basically, our route would be:
Marrakech - Aït Benhaddou
Skoura - Tinghir - Merzouga
Merzouga via the N12 to Zagora
Zagora - Draa Valley - Marrakech
It seems to be the low season, so I’d love to travel without having to book accommodations in advance. In other countries, pre-booking has restricted us and kept us from visiting unplanned sites. Freedom is important to us, but I’d also like to avoid arriving somewhere and finding nothing available.
What do you recommend? Book ahead or not?
Your advice is always helpful, and thanks to anyone who can shed some light on this for me.
Roberto
First of all: a big thank you to everyone whose insightful, funny, lively, and exotic posts we’ve enjoyed. It’s a joy to find such lovely writers on this forum, who’ve given me tons of ideas and addresses to prepare our trip.
Our plan: to explore Morocco from November 2nd to December 4th. We’ll have our own vehicle (a 2011 Renault Grand Scenic, in great condition), shipped with us from Sète to Tanger Med. Returning from Nador.
Our profile: 75 and 62 years young, so old but happy to be, in very good health. Seasoned travelers—it’s practically our whole life. Lovers of beautiful landscapes, historic sites, fine craftsmanship, and road trips. This will be my 3rd trip to Morocco, but the first two were 20 and 17 years ago. I’ve never been north of the Essaouira-Marrakech line (though I’ve gone further south). As for my husband, a lifelong expat including in Muslim countries, it’s his first time in Morocco.
He’s the one driving. He’s very experienced, cautious, not necessarily fast, but used to driving in all conditions (and countries, including the most creative on the road). But I don’t want to tire him out, and he no longer drives at night (and we’ll be there in November).
I’ve decided to show him a bit of everything by taking a road trip along beautiful backroads, with daily distances averaging 180-200 km (except on highways, which will be rare), regularly broken up by rest days. I’m counting on a speed of 40-50 km/h, plus stops/visits along the way.
Since I’ve read so many posts, I’ve narrowed it down to some very specific questions.
1) Coming directly from Rabat via the highway, we’d prefer to skip Marrakech*. Still, we’ll need to sleep somewhere nearby. We’ll head toward Skoura the next day. Does anyone have a well-located address for this route, possibly east of Marrakech? Ideally, we’re looking for a small town, easy parking, clean accommodation (minimum) with average comfort (or better if available), a bit heated, and if possible, pretty and/or nice—but above all, a place to sleep well, wash with lukewarm (ideally hot) water, and have a decent dinner.
(*Explanation for the "no-go" in Marrakech: it’s a shame, because there are truly beautiful things in this city, but I think the vibe won’t suit us—it’s an understatement for "it’ll put us off" / "make us flee" / "traumatize us." Not because it’s too crowded and we want to stand out from tourists (we’re part of them), but because of forced henna on your hand, or spending 10 minutes every quarter-hour saying "no thank you" to a "guide" who’s as much a guide as I am a trapeze artist. Knowing us, it’ll wear us down. The country is vast and beautiful, and our time too short to waste our memories just days after arriving. And I don’t want to ruin things for my peaceful husband, or he’ll demand we turn back—and Sète in November isn’t exactly thrilling either.)
2) Which route to Skoura (in 2 days)? I see two options: either via the Tichka Pass, with a night in Telouet before reaching Skoura, or via the R307/N23 from Demnate, with a night near Megdaz before descending to Skoura. So: Tichka Pass or R307/N23? I have a slight (big) preference for the second option, even though I know the other route is very beautiful too. Of course, before deciding, we’ll check the weather and the current state of the R307/N23—does anyone know where to get info on the road conditions? But even assuming the road is "passable," is it a bit too tough in itself? In short, is it reasonable? If a kind soul could share their experience, a thousand thanks in advance.
That’s all I’ve written for now. I’ll save the other questions for later posts. Thanks again to those who had the patience to read this and to those who can respond. Happy Sunday to all!
I’m just a few days away from my trip to Marrakech—I’m leaving from November 13th to 20th and bringing my parents along! I’d love to plan my stay as best as I can, and I’m sure the forum crew can help. So, here are my questions:
- Where’s the best place to exchange money without getting ripped off? The owner of the riad where we’re staying told us to avoid doing it at the airport because it’s really expensive and to do it in the medina instead, near Jemaa el-Fna square.
- Which traditional hammams do you recommend that are reasonably priced? How much should we budget for one? That’ll help me plan my expenses.
- What are some nice restaurants in the medina?
- I’d also like to know roughly how much to expect for a tea, a meal, a taxi, a djellaba, and babouches. I don’t want to get overcharged and would like to know what to expect.
- What are the must-do activities and places to visit?
Hi, I’d like to head to Morocco next week with my car. I’ve looked online at all the different info about the ferry crossing to Tangier, but I’m finding it really expensive. Is there a way to buy tickets in Spain? Or another way to get the Algeciras–Tangier crossing cheaper? Thanks for any tips or info!
We found a guide who offers the trip from M'hamid to a camp (departure at 3 PM, tea, meal, camel ride, overnight stay, breakfast, and return to M'Hamid by 11 AM the next day via the sacred oasis). He quoted us a price of 380 € for April.
What do you think of this rate?
This might sound like a silly question, but is it common to negotiate the price for this kind of thing (we're booking from France)? It’s still a big part of our travel budget.
Hi there,
We're planning to visit Egypt between January 25 and February 15, 2027. I looked up the Ramadan dates and found some sites saying it starts on February 8, while others say February 18... Where's the mistake?
Thanks,
Christian
Hi there,
We’re a family of 4 with two boys aged 12 and 10 traveling to Egypt in February.
We’re spending 3 days in Cairo to take our time exploring the city and the sites before heading south.
-Is it necessary to have a guide to visit the GEM? Are audio guides available?
-Do you have any contacts for drivers to organize a few transfers (Giza, Saqqara, Airport)?
-Do you know a French-speaking guide who’s friendly, family-friendly, and good at making things exciting, with reasonable prices?
With our two teens, we’re heading to Morocco for two weeks at the end of December and beginning of January. It’ll be our first trip that’s more "off the beaten path," even though we’ve visited several countries before. Given the overwhelming amount of info, I’m feeling a bit swamped with the prep this trip requires, and I’ll admit I’m a little lost when it comes to figuring out what’s realistic to visit in two weeks 😕 So, all your tips, personal experiences, and suggestions are more than welcome!
- Which places should we prioritize during this time of year? (I’ve read that some spots are less accessible in winter?)
- What’s the best way to get around? (rental car, train, private transport, buses, etc.? — just a heads-up, we’ll have a few suitcases!)
- In terms of "safety," are there any areas to avoid?
- Any recommendations for reliable local tour companies (beyond the big names like "Get Your Guide") that offer excursions or private transport to help us explore the country?
- A doable 2-week itinerary that lets us enjoy the country’s diversity without having to change accommodations every two days?
I’m planning a trip to the High Atlas in Morocco and have a few questions for you:
- Why do so many people recommend avoiding international agencies for car rentals? Can anyone explain why?
- Is Booking.com reliable, and has anyone rented a vehicle through their service? There’s a pretty big price difference compared to local Moroccan agencies.
- Is there a detailed road map included in the rental car?
- Is Google Maps enough to get around the High Atlas? This will be my first trip there.
Thanks so much to anyone who can help with this destination I’ve been dreaming about for years.
Have a great evening,
Roberto
hi there, I’m heading to Tunisia 🙂 from April 27 to May 8 with my family. I’ve read through the various discussions about the country, but I’m still a bit unsure🤪: for currency exchange, I saw on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that withdrawing currency with a bank card from ATMs is limited to 200 TND per week. There are four of us traveling by car, so that might be a bit tight! And it’s a hassle to carry a lot of cash, even if I’m not being paranoid! What do you all recommend?
Cheers,
Laurent.
I was wondering if it’s possible to join a group as a solo traveler with local agencies in Djanet for circuits like Tadrart, Essendilene, Sefar, or Tassili?
If you have any agencies to recommend, I’d love to hear about them.
I didn’t find any info on the forum.
Best,
We're planning a 2-week trip in late February/early March for a road trip in the High Atlas with a rental car, and we'd love to avoid booking our accommodations in advance. Is that doable, easily manageable, or risky (are accommodations available, expensive, or not great)? Thanks for your tips!
Annie
Hi,
This autumn, we’re planning to explore the Oriental region and we’re wondering where the best place to land would be. We’ll have three weeks ahead of us and we’ll be renting a car.
Any tips would be much appreciated. Thanks.
Is there an official website or list of certified Egyptologist guides in Egypt? And most importantly, what are the normal prices for a full day or half day? There’s so much scamming and crazy pricing—depending on who you contact, it can range from simple to quadruple!!!!
Thanks
Hello,
In September, my wife and I, along with another couple, will be traveling to Tunisia and staying at the Sheherasade Hotel near Sousse.
We’d love to hear your recommendations or tips on places to visit, as well as advice on taxis or other transportation options.
Thanks in advance!
This autumn’s trip should be in Morocco—barring any geopolitical issues between now and then.
After many trips to the south of Fès, I’m giving the north a try.
My plan is roughly to do a road trip loop from Rabat back to Rabat, passing through Asilah, Tangier, Tétouan, Chefchaouen, Akchour, Fès, Meknès, and Volubilis.
That’s a lot of cities.
Probably a bit too many for our taste—we usually prefer more isolated spots...
So I’m looking for tips on little backroads, secluded beaches, half-day hikes, and offbeat places.
If you’ve also got recommendations for accommodation... (We’re open to splurging over 100 € if it’s a real favorite.)
Feel free to think outside the box—this is an open-ended plan! !😉
Hello,
I’m looking for testimonials from Pieds-Noirs who have recently returned to Algeria.
There can’t be many left after 65 years of the country’s independence.
I’m planning to go back myself soon to reconnect with my roots... before I pass away...
I’ve started making a few pre-bookings for hotels and apartments to rent in Algiers. At first, I received friendly and welcoming responses. Then, when I mentioned I wanted to stay for two or three weeks—maybe even a month—explaining that my trip wouldn’t be strictly touristy but more of a pilgrimage to the places of my childhood, and that it would likely be a very emotional journey, I expected a positive and warm reaction to my approach. Instead, I suddenly stopped getting replies from the three or four people I’d contacted. So now I’m wondering about the reception former Pieds-Noirs can expect...
Anyone here who can share their experience of returning? I specified “recently” because it seems that right now, diplomatic relations between the two governments are extremely tense, not to say hostile... even if Macron claims otherwise...
Hello,
I’m traveling to Algeria from October 27 to November 16, 2026.
I’d love to hear from anyone who’s been through the process about the accommodation attestation required for the visa application:
- Does it need to cover the entire duration of the trip?
- Is this document mandatory for a hotel to rent a room?
- Is it checked during inspections?
- Is a hotel booking (e.g., via Booking.com) sufficient for the visa?
- If so, does it need to be paid in advance?
I plan to visit several cities and do one or more treks with a guide or agency.
If you have any contacts you’d recommend, I’d be grateful!
Also, I’d love to share this trip with a companion who’s already done some traveling.
We’d organize the journey together, of course.
Thanks for your feedback!
Safe travels to all,
Dom, Dijon, 64 years old
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
I’m heading to Morocco in September 2026, and part of my trip takes me through Merzouga. I’m looking for a 4x4 driver-guide to explore the area with my partner and me.
Even though I come to Morocco four times a year, it’s been a long time since I’ve made the trip by car. I need to refresh my knowledge! I’ll be traveling in early October. I have a car that’s about 20 years old. The plan is to cross via Algeciras/Ceuta.
A few questions:
1) Does this crossing still exist? If so, do I need to buy the ticket in advance or on the spot? From whom? Any advice is welcome!
2) What documents are required for the car?
3) If anyone is making the trip around the same time, it could be fun to drive together 😊
Hi there,
I’m looking for some friendly recommendations for places to stay in Marrakech for 3 nights in June 2026.
In the meantime, have a great day, everyone! Thanks so much in advance.