J'aimerais aller faire une grosse ride en moto en Europe. Mais je ne sais pas le meilleur moyen pour faire traverser ma moto, il est sur que, je ne peu l’envoyer que par avion ou bateau.😉
La façon idéal, je ne le sais pas et le prix approximatif non plus.
Alors s'il ya des bikers à l'écoute qui l'ont fait, j'aimerais savoir leur moyen et le coût approximatif pour faire traverser ma moto. Et aussi sur quelle port ou aéroport.
Est ce qu'ont la démonte partiellement ou d'une pièces, dans une boite ou pas, le meilleur moment de l'année si c'est nécessaire, toutes ces interrogations que je ne parvient pas à résoudre en regardent sur le net.
C'est tout ça que j'attend des gars qui ont fait cette traversé.
Pour air france ou KLM, il faut les contacter directement par téléphone en premier pour faire le contact et confirmer par courriel par la suite, c'est mieux. Idem pour Air Transat et autres cies aériennes.
Cependant, si le prix qu'il te donne est très élevé, tu leur demande qui est leur principal "fowarder". Le "fowarder" c'est la cie qui prépare/expédie pleins de choses avec la cie aérienne et le "fowarder" bénéficie de meilleur prix en passant par eux. Encore une fois c'est variable, il faut vraiment faire ses devoirs et pleins d'appels.
Plus d'info;
Tu n'a pas besoin des services d'un courtier en douane ($$$) pour dédouaner ta moto rendu la-bas. Faut se renseigner avant de partir pour savoir quoi faire, c'est tout. Il y a des frais pour les "documents" que le douanier va remplir/compléter (moins de 100$ soit moins de 65 Euro)
75$ de frais de matières dangereuses (oui une moto est considérée comme matière dangereuse; essence et batterie)
rajoutes un 100-150$ de frais de consultant en MD, indépendant, pour mettre ton expedition aux normes pour le transport aérien
Tu amènes la moto a l'aéroport, avec la quantité de carburant requis, la moto est monté sur une palette, strappé, et hop, dans l'avion (faut débrancher la batterie et mettre du tape électrique sur les contacts)
Le crating n'est plus requis mais tu peut en faire un si tu veux; ça ajoute au poid et au prix. Certains préfère un crate pour plus de "sécurité", des fois il y a des bris ou manque de pièces a l'arrivé (rare mais ça arrive...) Si crate, faut prévoir l'endroit pour entreposer le crate la-bas et les $$$$ qui vont avec l'entreposage. Le "fowarder" peut faire un crate sur demande ($$$) et selon les normes du transporteurs.
Si la hauteur dépasse 1.60m, il faut un avion full cargo, car la palette/crate ne rentre pas dans la soute d'un avion passager standard, comme dans l'avion passager qu'on prend a Dorval.
Le tarid de 1200$ c'était la semaine dernière (2011-03). Cette semaine?????
Voila un an, c'était 2 fois 1/2 ce tarif. Ça varie beaucoup. Faut suivre le cours des tarifs et "booké" quand le tarif est bas ou nous convient. Comme pour le billet d'avion passager.
Souhaitant ces informations utiles,
Salutations!
Il y a ceux qui font du kilométrage et il y a ceux qui font un voyage.
Voyager c'est aussi s'arrêter, écouter et comprendre.
Salut,
C'était comme ça en MARS 2011, donc aujourd'hui (2011-11-29) c'est sûrement un peu différent pour les tarifs; très évolutif!!!!))
Expédié une moto de Montréal a Paris.
- 1.95$/kg, basé sur le poids équivalent volume (Long x Larg x Hauteur / 6000). La hauteur est toujours considérée comme 160cm, puisqu'on ne peut rien poser dessus, il y a donc perte d'espace disponible. (sans crate)
- ajoute les differentes surcharges (fuel, sécurité, NavCan), soit environ 0.90$-1$/kg (variable en fonction du prix du baril)
- assurance 0.50% de la valeur de la moto
- frais de matière dangereuse 75$
- le rack (en bois) pour stabiliser la moto est facturé 65$
En plus, les frais de mise aux normes de l'expédition, soit environ 150$, facturés par un consultant indépendant.
Si tu fais un crate c'est plus lourd mais AF/KLM ou autre transporteur (mais a vérifier directement auprès de chacun) peut mettre du stock dessus alors ça réduit un peu le prix car gain d'espace!
Mais encore la, ça dépend du poids total de ta moto.
Salut!
Il y a ceux qui font du kilométrage et il y a ceux qui font un voyage.
Voyager c'est aussi s'arrêter, écouter et comprendre.
Je te dit un gros merci pour ces éclaircissements.😊
Ma fois avec les coûts que tu me dit là qui sont très dispendieux, je crois qu'il serais moin coûteux d'acheter une petite moto style 125 la bas, en regardent sur le net je sais qu'il ont une multitude de choix dans cette catégorie.
Apres avoir fait mon voyage de quelques mois, tu revend la moto même à perte s'il le faut ! je crois que je serais gagnant sur les 2 tableaux.
Je continue à recueillir des renseignements et je regarde du coté de l'achat, et ce que ça implique si je sort de France pour voir d'autre pays de ce coin.
D'accord je communique avec mes assurances du Québec et je m'informe pour savoir si je suis couvert.
C'est pratique qu'il y ait d'autres intervenants pour aider lorsque l'ont n'est pas de la région.
A+ et merci.
A moins qu'il y ait eu des changements récents dans le monde de l'assurance, non, un vh du Qc n'est pas couvert en europe par ton assurance du Qc.
Faut prendre une assurance en Europe.
A cette fin, je te suggère de contacter ton assureur québécois, de l'informer clairement de ton projet et que tu veut obtenir copie de ton dossier d'assuré. Idem auprès de la saaq.
Avec ça en main, tu communique avec des assureurs en Europe et tu leur envoi ton dossier. Encore mieux si ton dossier est envoyé directement par ton assureur a l'autre assureur européen (on est en 2011....)
Ce n'est pas tous les assureurs européens qui veulent assumer le "risque" alors il faut faire plusieurs appels; OUI, appels car par courriel, a cause des bouffons de certains pays qui envoient par courriel des demandes farfelues sans compter les fraudes ou tentatives de, pour montrer le sérieux de ta démarche.
Ce n'est pas compliqué mais un peu long et demandant en temps.
Bon préparatifs
Il y a ceux qui font du kilométrage et il y a ceux qui font un voyage.
Voyager c'est aussi s'arrêter, écouter et comprendre.
Toi ! Tu ni crois pas !? C'est un gros bonhomme ben gentil, habillé en rouge, et il donne des cadeaux, je le vois dans les centres d'achats et tous le monde va le voir 🙂 et ils reçoivent des cadeaux, 🙂 cela veut dire que ça marche ? non!? 🙂.
Avec la mondialisation les Cie. sorte partout pour faire des affaires, pour te cité un exemple, AXA il me semble qu'elle est au Québec et en Europe, donc il se peu qu'il y ait un entente pour les gens assuré avec eux, qui faciliterais les déplacements outremer aurais une couverture.
A+ et merci.
Et le Père Noël existe!!!!🙂 demande à tes petits enfants.🙂
Avec la mondialisation les Cie. sorte partout pour faire des affaires, pour te cité un exemple, AXA il me semble qu'elle est au Québec et en Europe, donc il se peu qu'il y ait un entente pour les gens assuré avec eux, qui faciliterais les déplacements outremer aurais une couverture.
A+ et merci.
🙂
L'an dernier (2010) les cies avec origine européenne en sol canadien n'avaient pas de liens avec leurs géniteurs.😠😠😠 pour leurs assurés.
AXA et ING m'ont répondu que ce sont des cies canadienne même si elles ont toutes deux de grosses bases en europe.
Tout comme pour GM du Canada, Chrysler du Canada et Ford du Canada....... qui ne sont pas des cies des usa.🙁
Auprès d'une cie d'assurance on trouve des gens qui ont des objections a tout mais rarement des solutions pour ce genre de choses. Ils ont un cadre assez précis de fonctionnement (en fait très "étroit")
Mais il semble que ca change tranquillement. Il ne faut absolument pas se gêner pour les contacter, les informer de ton projet et si la réponse est négative, leur faire part qu'on est en 2011 et qu'avec internet le monde est maintenant bien petit au niveau des échanges d'informations de toutes sortes. 😉
Il y a ceux qui font du kilométrage et il y a ceux qui font un voyage.
Voyager c'est aussi s'arrêter, écouter et comprendre.
En France a Avignon il y a l'agence Guendon (AXA) qui assure les moto immatricule du Quebec lorsqu'il sont en Europe
GUENDON Assurances Appel gratuit 73 rue Joseph Vernet 1er étage - BP 14
84000 Avignon
Tél:. 04 90 86 40 86
Fax: 04 90 85 75 87
Mail: @ axa.fr agence.guendon
Voir le site web
WOW, ça c'est une bonne nouvelle. En voila UN qui a compris qu'il y a du "business" a faire et qui n'est pas aussi "frileux" que la majorité de ses collègues.
Merci de l'info.
Il y a ceux qui font du kilométrage et il y a ceux qui font un voyage.
Voyager c'est aussi s'arrêter, écouter et comprendre.
hi there! I’m heading to Vietnam with a biker friend for 3 months, starting from Hanoi... the plan is to do the northern loop, return to Hanoi, then head down to Ho Chi Minh City... and probably ride back up through the mountains. We’re leaving in February. Just a little detail—we’re two retirees, both 63, used to riding motorbikes, and we have French and international licenses... we’re looking for good tips and advice since we’re planning to buy 125cc Chinese bikes locally. Thanks to everyone, and happy trails—life is beautiful!
Hey everyone!
New to the forum, but not so new to Asia 😄
I’m Nico, from Switzerland, currently based in Bangkok. I love taking my motorcycle out to get lost in the mountains and small villages of Thailand, Laos, Vietnam, and more. I’ve been roaming around this area for a good fifteen years now, racking up quite a few kilometers—especially in northern Vietnam.
This time, I finally decided to tackle the Mae Hong Son Loop, clockwise. I’d been to Pai several times before, but oddly enough, I’d never done the full loop.
So, I’ll try to give you a little recap here, day by day, with the roads, stops, places worth checking out… and those that didn’t quite blow my mind 😅
I also filmed the trip, so I’ll post the corresponding video at the end of each day if that’s okay. If it’s not allowed here, just let me know, and I’ll remove them without any issue.
DAY 1 — Chiang Mai → Doi Inthanon → Mae Chaem → Khun Yuam
I left Chiang Mai after renting a Honda ADV 160 from Pop Motorbike. Not exactly an Africa Twin, but for what I had planned, it was more than enough.
Quick hotel note: I stayed at the Lanna Thaphae Hotel before leaving. Around 30 € per night, super well-located, and probably one of the most comfortable beds I’ve ever slept in. A crucial detail for any motorcycle road trip, obviously.
The plan for the day was pretty straightforward:
Head toward Doi Inthanon… and see what happens.
Flawless Swiss organization.
First stop along the way at Wachirathan Waterfall. A really nice waterfall, very easy to access, but don’t expect to channel your inner Indiana Jones—it’s crowded, touristy, and swimming isn’t allowed. Still, it’s a pretty stop along the way.
Next, up to Doi Inthanon.
The road climbs steeply, and my little 160cc started to realize that carrying my 80 kg to Thailand’s highest point probably wasn’t part of its youthful dreams. I was maxing out at 34 km/h in some spots.
But it made it. Good little bike.
The summit is nice—the forest is beautiful, and it’s cool—but I have to admit, it didn’t completely wow me. Glad I went, but not necessarily the highlight of the day for me.
Because then comes Route 1192.
And that’s *much* more my thing: small mountain roads, beautiful scenery, hardly any traffic… the kind of road where I usually start taking way too many unnecessary detours just because a little side road “looks fun.”
Stopped in Mae Chaem for a bite to eat, then headed to Khun Yuam to finish the day.
A little over 200 km in total.
Khun Yuam is… quiet.
*Very* quiet. 😅
A cute little market, a couple of cafés/restaurants, and zero chance of ending up in a club until 4 AM. But after a day on the bike, it was perfect.
Stayed at the Mit Khun Yuam Hotel, around 20 € for a small but very decent room.
All in all, a solid first day and a pretty relaxed start to the loop. Part of this leg is mostly about getting out of Chiang Mai and really diving into the mountains, in my opinion.
Because for me, the really interesting stuff starts over the next two days…
And a few slightly questionable route decisions will also make an appearance 😅
If anyone’s planning the Mae Hong Son Loop, feel free to ask your questions—I’d be happy to answer!
I also filmed this first day, so for those who’d rather see the roads and landscapes than read my rambling, here’s Day 1 😊
DAY 1 VIDEO
I’ll post the next part in the coming days with Day 2: Khun Yuam → Mae Surin → Mae Hong Son.
And that’s where it starts getting *really* fun. 😉
That’s all for now! Looking forward to contributing as much as I can to the forum!
I’d like to ride from Mahajanga to Morondava, sticking as close to the coast as possible—using roads and tracks—in September 2026. If you’ve got any suggestions, let me know! 😉
hi
I’m planning a 10-month trip to South America, and I’m looking into options for shipping a motorcycle to Buenos Aires by air or sea. If anyone has any info, thanks in advance!
christian
Hello everyone.
I'm looking for campsites around BOLZANO (South Tyrol) for early September.
I'll be on my motorcycle with a small tent.
I've noticed that some campsites have exorbitant prices.
If you've traveled through the Dolomites by motorcycle or otherwise and camped there, I'd love any tips on places and prices where I can stay for one night or several.
Thanks to all of you, and happy travels.
I’m starting to think about a trip that’s really close to my heart: Algeria by motorcycle, specifically the southern part of the country. It’d be for January 2025, and I’ve got two main questions:
Is it possible for an individual on a motorcycle to travel freely, outside of any organized tour, or does the regulation require some kind of supervision in the Algerian Sahara region?
Is the Hoggar massif accessible by road or by (rideable) tracks?
Beyond the official recommendations, I’m really looking for your firsthand experiences.
Thanks so much for your answers, and sorry if my questions are a bit newbie!
I just realized I’ve been registered on VoyageForum since... March 28, 2012 😊. Yet, I’ve barely participated until now.
August 1, 2026, will mark a somewhat special milestone: 5 years on the road.
We left Switzerland on August 1, 2021 with a simple idea: let chance decide our direction. We placed a bottle of wine on a world map, spun it... and it chose our first destination.
A year later, when we arrived in Morocco, we faced a new choice: continue toward Africa or head to Asia. This time, a tarot card game made the decision. Since then, we’ve tried to keep this journey as open to the unexpected as possible.
Today, that adds up to about 120,000 km, 46 countries, and over 1,800 days on the road—mostly by motorcycle, but also by sailboat, train, bus, hitchhiking, or on foot when adventure calls.
Our guiding thread isn’t just the motorcycle, but service exchanges. Instead of simply passing through countries, we try to stop regularly to lend a hand to the people we meet. So far, that’s about 600 days of volunteering.
Over the years, we’ve:
renovated a house in Croatia
made earth bricks in the Moroccan desert
helped sail a boat through the Greek islands
looked after houses, dogs, horses, a camel... and lots of other animals
worked at a street art festival in Morocco
created videos for local associations and projects
worked the grape harvest on the Tibetan plateau
been accredited as "media" for the World Nomad Games in Central Asia
Some of the moments that have stuck with us the most include six months in China, a night spent on the Great Wall, the Pamir Highway, the Silk Road, three months in Taiwan, and the incredible encounters in the mountains of Central Asia.
We travel on Falkor, our lucky dragon—a 2014 BMW F800GS that’s been with us since the start and is starting to have some great stories of its own.
While we share our adventure on Instagram, Polarsteps, and YouTube, that’s not why we’re here. The forum’s rules about promotion are clear, and I totally get them. If I’m finally taking the time to write, it’s mostly because after five years on the road, I thought our experience might be useful to other travelers.
Happy to chat about:
preparing for a long motorcycle trip
visas and borders
the Silk Road and Central Asia
riding in China (with or without a motorcycle)
volunteering and service exchanges while traveling
gear, daily life on the road... or just the unexpected moments that make long-term travel so special
Looking forward to swapping stories and hearing about your adventures too! 😊 Greetings from Thailand, and happy to chat! ✌️
Hello, I’m retired and planning a roughly 3-week motorcycle trip (1200gs). The dates aren’t set in stone yet, and everything’s open to discussion—I’m pretty flexible with the planning.
hi
planning to ride through Rajasthan on a motorcycle in January 2027 and I’d love to hear about the road conditions.
I’ll be riding with a buddy on a Royal Enfield that I’ll rent in Delhi.
Thanks for your tips!
hi there
I’d like to ride the RN 12 by motorcycle in September.
I’d love to know the main challenges—I ride a 300cc and do enduro in France.
Thanks for your tips!
I’m planning a motorcycle road trip to Armenia and Georgia in September 2026 or May 2027. I’m looking for one or more riders (male or female) who’d like to explore these countries with me.
Along the way, we’ll visit Cappadocia, the capitals Yerevan, Tbilisi, Sofia, Skopje, and other cities—we can finalize the route and roadbook later.
This trip requires experience with long motorcycle journeys, as we’ll cover around 7,000 km over 5 or 6 weeks (or more, depending on sightseeing and time spent).
I don’t expect dozens of applicants, since motorcycle riders are few and far between on this forum, but I’m putting this out there anyway.
Hi, I’d like to take a 15-day "break" to get away from the surrounding hustle and bustle.
Why not explore the Peloponnese!
I’m not particularly drawn to museums, ruins, or monuments.
I want to experience local life—small villages, seaside spots, beaches, and the interior if the landscapes are extraordinary.
Ideally, coming from Athens, I’d take a bus or train to get as close as possible to a starting point, then rent a scooter (125cc) to explore by taking secondary roads or even coastal paths. I’d stay in 2-3 places for a few days each to discover their surroundings.
Do a loop.
What do you think would be the ideal itinerary?
From Athens, the best option would be to take either a flight or a bus to Kalamata. Rent a scooter and head either west or east. Is there a tertiary road (very lightly trafficked) or a path where I can ride slowly, take it easy, and enjoy the scenery without being bothered by traffic? I’d like to go all the way to Monemvasia, still hugging the coast. I need to find a way to avoid returning to Kalamata to drop off the scooter and catch a flight—maybe a small town where the train stops so I can head back to Athens.
Thanks in advance for your tips.
I want to rent an off-road style motorcycle to get around the coast during my trip to Ecuador. I’m only finding options in Quito. Do you have any suggestions for me?
Hi there,
I’m planning a sidecar trip to South America for 4 or 5 months at the end of this year.
I’m looking for info on shipping my vehicle by sea—possibly to Uruguay or another destination, as I haven’t finalized anything yet.
How do you get visas for the countries I’ll be crossing: Uruguay, Argentina, Bolivia, Peru, and Chile? Are they e-Visas, obtained at the border, or through embassies?
Where can I get vehicle insurance?
Lastly, if any bikers want to join us (my partner and me), we’re open to that possibility too.
Patrick
I’ve got 15 days off in June and I’m pretty undecided about where to go for a motorcycle road trip. Two strong desires are pulling me in different directions: Corsica or Norway.
Corsica has been a dream of mine for a long time: legendary roads, stunning landscapes, a unique vibe, and the perfect mix of sea and mountains. At the same time, I’m wondering if 2 weeks might be *too much* for Corsica—risking feeling like I’ve seen it all too quickly, especially on a bike.
Since I also have an extra week free in May, I could use that specifically for Corsica. Maybe splitting it into two trips would make more sense? If so, which routes or regions would be the most interesting to plan for a 7-day trip?
On the other hand, Norway is *super* appealing. The landscapes look incredible, totally different from anything I’ve experienced, and it’d be a real “wow” trip. I know 15 days is still short for such a vast country. Getting all the way to the North Cape seems pretty much impossible in that time, but I’m curious about what realistic routes could be planned.
So I’m wondering:
Is it better to save Norway for next year, take 3 weeks off, and do it *properly*?
Or are 15 days enough for a first amazing taste of the country?
I’d love to hear about your experiences—whether it’s Corsica (ideal duration, routes) or Norway (what’s realistic in 2 weeks on a bike).
Thanks in advance for your thoughts!
Hello,
I'm thinking of buying a used small motorcycle to travel around the country for a month and a half.
I've done this in other countries without putting the registration in my name—is that possible in Guinea given the apparently frequent checks, or do I have to go through the paperwork?
Thanks.
Hello,
My dream is to ride Route 66 by motorcycle. I have a disability—while I’m not in a wheelchair, my walking mobility is reduced.
The ideal scenario would be to have a motorcycle driver and ride as their passenger on an organized trip.
Are there any guides or services like this offered by travel agencies?
Thanks for sharing your experiences!
Hello,
I’ve got a plan with a friend to go on a motorcycle road trip in 2028 or 2029, starting in Santiago de Chile and ending in Ushuaia, for about a month.
Has anyone done a trip like this before, and what’s the best time of year?
I’ve heard there can be quite a bit of wind depending on the season.
Thanks for any tips!
Cheers,
PA
I'm seriously considering heading to Nepal to do some nice motorcycle loops... my goal is also to do the Kailash Yatra round trip from Kathmandu, in a small group with a guide, in May '26... but here's the thing—I'm solo! So if you're up for sharing a similar adventure, hit me up... Cheers, Frankoys
It's all in the title: I'm heading to Krabi soon and want to rent a scooter for a few weeks, but after reading comments about all kinds of scams, I'm reaching out to ask where and how (read: *the right way*) to rent one.
Thanks for your tips and advice.
Hello everyone! Like every year, a winter migration is on the horizon (revised plan): this time, it’ll be Dakar, or even Abidjan, via Morocco, Mauritania, and Senegal.
Looking for an experienced motorcyclist or pillion rider—small build preferred—on a GSA 1250 with a comfy seat and luggage setup, available from early November to late December 2025. I’d like to plan the trip together (important to me) to make sure we’re on the same wavelength.
Don’t hesitate to get in touch!
Didier
Looking for travel companions to ride from France to Senegal by motorcycle.
I’m Paul, 37, and I’ve already done a bit of riding in Morocco.
For now, I’m solo, riding a 1998 SUZUKI DR 650 with some basic gear to keep things smooth. I’ll have a tent so we can do a few nights under the stars.
We’ll need to coordinate departure dates—"ideally in November."
I’m currently checking out routes to take. Any tips would be welcome! :)
I’m heading to Vietnam and Laos with a buddy next week for a month.
We’re thinking of renting motorbikes, especially to do the Ha Giang Loop. We don’t have an international license, just our Belgian one. Is that enough? If not, is it risky?
In November, we’re planning to do the Ha Giang loop and the RC4 by motorbike without a guide. 😎
We’re looking for a decent place to stay/rent in Ha Giang.
If anyone has any info, we’d be really interested.
Hello! We’re planning a motorcycle trip that will include a visit to Auschwitz-Birkenau in June 2026.
We’re unsure (still debating) whether we should stay at a hotel on-site and get to the memorial with an Uber (leaving our bikes at the hotel) and book a guided tour, or base ourselves in Kraków and take a tour that includes transport.
One thing’s for sure—we’d prefer a guide in French since we don’t speak English 😅.
Could you share your experiences or advice?
I understand we need to book online rather than on-site.
Thanks in advance for your replies!
