Meilleur passage frontière Thaïlande-Cambodge?
by Mireg
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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nous partons en famille en fevrier 2015 pour trois semaine, nous aurons passé deux nuits à bangkok pour récuperer, et nous nous posons la question du passage terrestre de la fontiere, en avion à 5 cela monte vite..
pouvez vous nous donner des conseils et des avis recents , nous prendrons les visas à la frontiere.
je me demandais si par trat chantaburi cela pouvais etre plus tranquille et sympa pour battabang , mais apres c est un detour pour siem reap..
merci de vos conseils et des infos
Bonjour Régine,
par trat chantaburi
je suppose que tu veux parler du poste frontière de Cham Yeam.
je me suis renseigné il y a quelque temps sur ce poste frontière, et je n'ai trouvé que des avis négatif, les douaniers Cambodgien auraient la fâcheuse tendance à augmenter le prix du visa (50$ au lieu de 20). Mais cela à peut être changé. Cela dit, même pour Battambang, ça fait un sacré détour. Le mieux, depuis BKK, est de passer par Poipet.
par trat chantaburi
je suppose que tu veux parler du poste frontière de Cham Yeam.
je me suis renseigné il y a quelque temps sur ce poste frontière, et je n'ai trouvé que des avis négatif, les douaniers Cambodgien auraient la fâcheuse tendance à augmenter le prix du visa (50$ au lieu de 20). Mais cela à peut être changé. Cela dit, même pour Battambang, ça fait un sacré détour. Le mieux, depuis BKK, est de passer par Poipet.
Tu ne peux pas voyager sur un chemin sans être toi même le chemin.
Bouddha.
Bonjour,
Si l'mmigration cambodgienne rentre dans les clous, ce serait une bonne idée, car
de Battambang, tu prends une pirogue qui descend la rivière, traverse le
Tonlé Sap et tu arrives à une heure de Siem Reap
Autrement + sympathique que la foire d'empoigne de Poipet.
Bonne prépa, Lung.
Depuis Bangkok, prenez le bus, il n'y a pas de train jusqu'à Poipet.
D'autre membres de VF pourront vous renseigner pour trouver un bus pour Siem Reap ou Phnom Penh.
Exemple pour aller de Bangkok à Seam Reap:
Passage par Poipet: Bangkok -> Seam Reap : 400km env. 5h de route
Passage par Cham Yeam: Bangkok -> Cham Yeam : 400km env. 5h de route (existe-t-il des bus direct ?) Cham Yeam -> Battambang : 270km env. 4h de route Battambang -> Seam Reap : 135km env. 2h de route
Vous trouverez aisément des compagnies de bus faisant Bangkok Seam Reap par Poipet. Un premier bus vous conduit à la frontière, puis après le passage de la douane (à pied avec vos sacs), un second bus vous conduit à destination. Un accompagnateur vous dirigera vers le second bus. Après L'avion, c'est la solution la plus simple.
Par contre vous ne trouverez aucune compagnie passant par Cham Yeam. Ce sera à vous d'organiser tout le parcours. Et là, ça se complique très vite. Horaires et correspondance à la frontière Cambodgienne, retard éventuel, etc...
Pour revenir au train, vous pouvez le prendre jusqu'à Aran Yaprathet puis un taxi jusqu'à Poipet. De là prendre un autre Taxi pour Seam Reap.
à vous de voir...
Lionel.
D'autre membres de VF pourront vous renseigner pour trouver un bus pour Siem Reap ou Phnom Penh.
Exemple pour aller de Bangkok à Seam Reap:
Passage par Poipet: Bangkok -> Seam Reap : 400km env. 5h de route
Passage par Cham Yeam: Bangkok -> Cham Yeam : 400km env. 5h de route (existe-t-il des bus direct ?) Cham Yeam -> Battambang : 270km env. 4h de route Battambang -> Seam Reap : 135km env. 2h de route
Vous trouverez aisément des compagnies de bus faisant Bangkok Seam Reap par Poipet. Un premier bus vous conduit à la frontière, puis après le passage de la douane (à pied avec vos sacs), un second bus vous conduit à destination. Un accompagnateur vous dirigera vers le second bus. Après L'avion, c'est la solution la plus simple.
Par contre vous ne trouverez aucune compagnie passant par Cham Yeam. Ce sera à vous d'organiser tout le parcours. Et là, ça se complique très vite. Horaires et correspondance à la frontière Cambodgienne, retard éventuel, etc...
Pour revenir au train, vous pouvez le prendre jusqu'à Aran Yaprathet puis un taxi jusqu'à Poipet. De là prendre un autre Taxi pour Seam Reap.
à vous de voir...
Lionel.
Tu ne peux pas voyager sur un chemin sans être toi même le chemin.
Bouddha.
Bonjour, on est également passé par Poipet. Comme on était en famille ça ne nous a pas couté beaucoup plus cher(je sais plus combien) de prendre une voiture privée (depuis une agence de BKK) après passage à pied, un autre taxi et hop direction Battambang. Tranquille, bon un peu de queue à la frontière mais c'était fin juillet.
Bonnes vacances
Thailande vers Battambang par les environs de Pailin:
- positif: la route a été refaite et n'est plus un calvaire;
- négatif: après midi/13h: taxi à partager vers Battambang. Dur (marchandage - un occidental vaut "le volume" de deux cambodgiens, etc...... et pas le choix sinon bloqué). Fait en 2006.
Il paraît que le mieux est de faire ce trajet en sens inverse: je le ferai en 2015). Mais c'est faisable dans les 2 sens
(retrouver une discussion détaillée sur le sujet sur VF. Et pas trop ancienne: 2 ans? Avec les prix de chaque moye de transport).
inwa21
nous partons en famille en fevrier 2015 pour trois semaine, nous aurons passé deux nuits à bangkok pour récuperer, et nous nous posons la question du passage terrestre de la fontiere, en avion à 5 cela monte vite..
En réservant maintenant, voilà le genre de tarif que tu auras :
soit environ 30€/personne
J'ai peur qu'en disant ça, tu sous-estimes les frais liés aux voyages terrestres :
Sans même parler de la journée de voyage que tu gagnes, qui a un certain prix (assez inestimable pour moi, mais on peut quand même estimer la partie financière : 3 semaines de voyage budget 1500€/pers tout compris, ça fait 75€/jour), quand tu fais concrètement l'addition de tous les frais du voyage terrestre : multiples transports (6 etapes a payer, 3 seulement en avion: bkk-aeroport+avion+aeroport-siemreap), repas en route(ni les meilleurs, ni les plus économiques), plus les éventuels bakchich à la frontière pour éviter de perdre encore plus de temps, pas du tout sûr que tu arrives en dessous de 30 €, et 100 % sur que la maigre économie de quelques euros réalisée ne compensera jamais la journée de voyage de perdue
Maintenant, l'expérience d'une journée dans des transports bien fumants et inconfortables, des heures passées dans la fournaise de la frontière à slalomer entre les arnaques célèbres de poipet et des autres passages, il y en a que ça fait rêver...
En réservant maintenant, voilà le genre de tarif que tu auras :
soit environ 30€/personne
J'ai peur qu'en disant ça, tu sous-estimes les frais liés aux voyages terrestres :
Sans même parler de la journée de voyage que tu gagnes, qui a un certain prix (assez inestimable pour moi, mais on peut quand même estimer la partie financière : 3 semaines de voyage budget 1500€/pers tout compris, ça fait 75€/jour), quand tu fais concrètement l'addition de tous les frais du voyage terrestre : multiples transports (6 etapes a payer, 3 seulement en avion: bkk-aeroport+avion+aeroport-siemreap), repas en route(ni les meilleurs, ni les plus économiques), plus les éventuels bakchich à la frontière pour éviter de perdre encore plus de temps, pas du tout sûr que tu arrives en dessous de 30 €, et 100 % sur que la maigre économie de quelques euros réalisée ne compensera jamais la journée de voyage de perdueMaintenant, l'expérience d'une journée dans des transports bien fumants et inconfortables, des heures passées dans la fournaise de la frontière à slalomer entre les arnaques célèbres de poipet et des autres passages, il y en a que ça fait rêver...
Bonjour,
3 semaines, c'est court;se rendre confortablement sur le but du voyage est la bonne option.
Vous visiterez à vélo, à moto, ou en minibus.
Pour le retour, vous serez acclimaté à la région, je pencherais pour
un itinéraire terrestre en 3 jours:
De Siem Reap, embarcadère sur le Tonlé Sap, pirogue jusqu'à Battambang.
Taxi jusqu'à la frontière, nuit à Chantaburi puis bus clim sur BKK.
Sur place, vous trouverez de bonnes infos récentes.
En 2005, nous avons trouvé le bon taxi auprès de la postière francophone
(son neveu).
Cela fait partie des découvertes du voyage pas trop formaté.
Bon Voyage, Lung.
Battambang - Bangkok: en 1 jour et demi, c'est possible.
Battambang - Pailin: bus matinal et non taxi dans ce sens-là (infos dans les hôtels à Battambang). Et donc, pas d'arnaques. Nuit à Pattaya? Et deux heures de bus vers BGK (à n'importe quelle heure du jour).
Les "correspondances" entre les différents moyens de transports "collent" nettement mieux que dans l'autre sens.
inwa21
Bonsoir,
Pour aller de Thaïlande au Cambodge, nous sommes passés plusieurs fois par Koh Khong. Hat Hiet il me semble. Le passage de la frontière n'est pas fastidieux, mais ça pue la corruption gentille à tous les étages. Il y a 2 ans, nous sommes rentrés du Cambodge pour aller en Thaïlande de Battambang via Pailin. Je dois ressembler à Georges Clooney ( dans l'obscurité la plus totale ), mais ça s'est fait en 2 temps 3 mouvements côté cambodgien. Côté thaï, on nous a demandé des photos ( en février dernier, revenant du Laos, pas besoin de photo ). Bref. Côté cambodgien, super nickel, rapide. Il y a des bus qui vont de Batambang à Païlin. Mais apparemment, ils ne vont pas jusqu'au poste frontière. Nous avons donc pris un " taxi " pour aller de Battambang à la frontière thaïe. 30 ou 50 dollars pour 2. Mais ma mémoire... Arrivé au poste frontière, pas grand chose. On est un peu pris dans la nasse. Pas de bus / minibus. 4 ou 5 barraques perdues au milieu de la forêt. Bien entendu, pas de bus ni de minibus. Nous avons pris un " taxi " pour Trat. 70 ou 80dollars pour 2. Il y a quelques heures de route. Route nickel. très souvent une 4 voies.
Pour le trajet battambang - SR il y a plein de bus.
Le bateau, pourquoi pas. mais souvent le fleuve est encaissé et on ne doit pas voir grand chose. A part des plantation de piments, de carottes. Côté bus, ce n'est pas mieux. Plaines, champs de riz... Ce n'est pas à tomber.
Pour aller de Thaïlande au Cambodge, nous sommes passés plusieurs fois par Koh Khong. Hat Hiet il me semble. Le passage de la frontière n'est pas fastidieux, mais ça pue la corruption gentille à tous les étages. Il y a 2 ans, nous sommes rentrés du Cambodge pour aller en Thaïlande de Battambang via Pailin. Je dois ressembler à Georges Clooney ( dans l'obscurité la plus totale ), mais ça s'est fait en 2 temps 3 mouvements côté cambodgien. Côté thaï, on nous a demandé des photos ( en février dernier, revenant du Laos, pas besoin de photo ). Bref. Côté cambodgien, super nickel, rapide. Il y a des bus qui vont de Batambang à Païlin. Mais apparemment, ils ne vont pas jusqu'au poste frontière. Nous avons donc pris un " taxi " pour aller de Battambang à la frontière thaïe. 30 ou 50 dollars pour 2. Mais ma mémoire... Arrivé au poste frontière, pas grand chose. On est un peu pris dans la nasse. Pas de bus / minibus. 4 ou 5 barraques perdues au milieu de la forêt. Bien entendu, pas de bus ni de minibus. Nous avons pris un " taxi " pour Trat. 70 ou 80dollars pour 2. Il y a quelques heures de route. Route nickel. très souvent une 4 voies.
Pour le trajet battambang - SR il y a plein de bus.
Le bateau, pourquoi pas. mais souvent le fleuve est encaissé et on ne doit pas voir grand chose. A part des plantation de piments, de carottes. Côté bus, ce n'est pas mieux. Plaines, champs de riz... Ce n'est pas à tomber.
merci à tous pour ces reponses detaillee qui m aident;
nous allons donc partir à l aller par air asia pour plus de rapidité et de confort.
trois semaine c est tellement court , je n arrive pas à boucler l itineraire !
ce qui m amene à repenser le retour , soit par battabang pailin , si nous avons le temps c est sympa
soit par la cote si nous sommes à sihanouk cote cambodge, comme je ne sais pas encore ou se fera notre séjour plage..
qu en pensez vous ,
combien de temps le meilleur trajet , sympa.
au fait, il n y a pas de route entre battabang et sihanouk?
merci
Bonjour!
j'ai passé plusieurs fois la frontière nord et sud et franchement, je trouve que la frontière sud est bien moins compliquée. je n'ai eu aucun problème. que ce soit là ou ailleurs, montrez vous ferme mais souriant. le prix du visa est ce qu'il est, et montrez que vous le savez. pour ma part personne n'a essayé de me forcer à quoi que ce soit, ni mes différentes rencontres l'ayant pratiqué d'ailleurs. c'est vrai qu'il a mauvaise réputation, je ne vois pas pourquoi.
j'ai passé plusieurs fois la frontière nord et sud et franchement, je trouve que la frontière sud est bien moins compliquée. je n'ai eu aucun problème. que ce soit là ou ailleurs, montrez vous ferme mais souriant. le prix du visa est ce qu'il est, et montrez que vous le savez. pour ma part personne n'a essayé de me forcer à quoi que ce soit, ni mes différentes rencontres l'ayant pratiqué d'ailleurs. c'est vrai qu'il a mauvaise réputation, je ne vois pas pourquoi.
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After that, I can apply for a 30-day extension at the immigration office.
I’m planning to either buy a fully refundable ticket to the nearest country or a fake ticket.
For 3 months, I’ll need to extend my visa two more times before my return date to France.
My question is this:
Will immigration ask me each time I extend my visa by one month to show proof of an exit ticket matching the new visa extension date?
Is it possible to extend directly by 2 months before the initial 30 days expire?
Thanks in advance for your experiences and tips! 😊
Hello to all the Thailand regulars.
I’ve been to Thailand several times, but it was about 20 years ago…
There’s a new system in place now, it seems.
TDAC – Thailand Digital Arrival Card.
Before arriving, I apply for a TDAC, okay. If during my stay I cross the border to spend a few days in Malaysia and then re-enter Thailand, do I need to submit a new TDAC application? Do I use the same TDAC as when I first entered the country?
Or do I initially have to pay for a Thai multi-entry visa?
Thanks in advance for your insights—I can’t find the answer online.
Pierre
I’ve been to Thailand several times, but it was about 20 years ago…
There’s a new system in place now, it seems.
TDAC – Thailand Digital Arrival Card.
Before arriving, I apply for a TDAC, okay. If during my stay I cross the border to spend a few days in Malaysia and then re-enter Thailand, do I need to submit a new TDAC application? Do I use the same TDAC as when I first entered the country?
Or do I initially have to pay for a Thai multi-entry visa?
Thanks in advance for your insights—I can’t find the answer online.
Pierre
My partner (Mexican) entered France on January 21st as a tourist. She was therefore entitled to stay for 90 days in the Schengen Area. She’ll be leaving for Mexico on April 16th, so she’ll have “used up” 86 days.
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
Hello,
We’re planning to travel to Indonesia (Sulawesi with family) next July and August for a stay longer than a month (about 6 weeks).
I’ve seen that it’s possible to get a 60-day visa before departure, but I’ve also read about people having a lot of trouble getting it (some even didn’t manage and had to leave without it).
We absolutely need to have these 4 visas BEFORE leaving because once we’re in Sulawesi, I’m not sure we’ll be able to go to an embassy to request a visa extension after 30 days.
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
Hi there,
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
Hello, HAPPY NEW YEAR 2026!
We’re heading back in October for a trip through Botswana, Zambia, and Zimbabwe.
I have a question: for our route, we’ll need to cross the Zambia and Zimbabwe borders twice each. From experience, I know we won’t have any issues with Botswana.
But for the other two countries, I can’t find a clear answer.
All your tips are welcome!
Thanks for your replies
Thanks for your replies
Hi everyone!
I’m currently a student on a gap year, and I don’t plan to go back to school right away. That said, traveling really interests me. But I’ve been wondering: does being a student come with any perks when you decide to go abroad? The real question is whether I should re-enroll in a program just to keep that status without actually attending.
Thanks in advance for your replies,
Axel
I’m currently a student on a gap year, and I don’t plan to go back to school right away. That said, traveling really interests me. But I’ve been wondering: does being a student come with any perks when you decide to go abroad? The real question is whether I should re-enroll in a program just to keep that status without actually attending.
Thanks in advance for your replies,
Axel
hi everyone,
I’m French and live in France, and my Thai girlfriend just told me she’s pregnant—she lives in Thailand. First step, a paternity test to set my mind at ease. What steps do I need to take to recognize the child? Can I do it before the birth or only after? Where do I need to go, and what paperwork is required?
Just to clarify, I want him to stay in Thailand but be able to come to France anytime without any issues! Thanks for taking the time to read and reply.
Just to clarify, I want him to stay in Thailand but be able to come to France anytime without any issues! Thanks for taking the time to read and reply.






