En août prochain je m'envole pour la chine, avec un copain. On atterrit à Chengdu puis on projette de sillonner le xinjiang en moto. Est-ce autrisé, en tant qu'étudiant étranger? Est-ce pratiquable? Et peut-on acheter une moto facilement? Merci si vous avez quelques réponses
À moto dans le Xinjiang en Chine?
by Gailvoyage
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour à tous,
En août prochain je m'envole pour la chine, avec un copain. On atterrit à Chengdu puis on projette de sillonner le xinjiang en moto. Est-ce autrisé, en tant qu'étudiant étranger? Est-ce pratiquable? Et peut-on acheter une moto facilement? Merci si vous avez quelques réponses
En août prochain je m'envole pour la chine, avec un copain. On atterrit à Chengdu puis on projette de sillonner le xinjiang en moto. Est-ce autrisé, en tant qu'étudiant étranger? Est-ce pratiquable? Et peut-on acheter une moto facilement? Merci si vous avez quelques réponses
Merci de ces infos. Finalement alors le permis international ne servirait à rien ni celui que l'on peut avoir en chine en échage de son permis français? La seule solution est d'essayer quand même? En comptant sur la bonne volonté de la police chinoise? Mais dans le Xinjiang, les contrôles ne doivent pas être très fréquents, ou au contraire?
Et donc peux tu m'indiquer à peu près le prix d'une moto, et si c'est facile à acheter, en quelqus jours.
A plus
Hello
Tous le problème est la, c'est que pour acheter une moto il faut un permit et une plaque d'immatriculation ... Sur la fréquence des contrôles détrompe toi il y'en a pas mal au contraire, et c'est quitte ou double pour les étrangers ...
Si tu reste longtemp dans une grand ville, il y'as un moyen d'avoir un permit, il faut aller dans un bureaux spécial avec un traducteur que tu paye, et tu peut passé, une sorte de côde de la route (20 question peut être moins) et tu as ton permit ...
Je ne l'est pas expérimenter, mais des expat de shanghai le font ...., plus d'infos sur le site : vieashanghai ... (faut chercher sur google, je ne connait pas l'adresse par coeur ....
Philo
Tous le problème est la, c'est que pour acheter une moto il faut un permit et une plaque d'immatriculation ... Sur la fréquence des contrôles détrompe toi il y'en a pas mal au contraire, et c'est quitte ou double pour les étrangers ...
Si tu reste longtemp dans une grand ville, il y'as un moyen d'avoir un permit, il faut aller dans un bureaux spécial avec un traducteur que tu paye, et tu peut passé, une sorte de côde de la route (20 question peut être moins) et tu as ton permit ...
Je ne l'est pas expérimenter, mais des expat de shanghai le font ...., plus d'infos sur le site : vieashanghai ... (faut chercher sur google, je ne connait pas l'adresse par coeur ....
Philo
"J'ai refait tous les calculs, notre projet est irréalisable, il ne nous reste plus qu'une chose à faire, le réaliser". Latecoere
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Salut,
Pas de problème pour conduire en Chine, j'ai traversé le pays d'est en Ouest à moto l'année dernière, mais c'est vrai que la police aux check point ou lors de contrôles volants ne sait pas vraiment quoi faire !!!, en tout cas, ils n'ont pas l'ordre de t'empêcher de circuler ! J'avais un permis international et cela a suffi. A Pékin, j'ai rencontré quelques expat qui roulent à moto sans avoir de permis spécial ni de plaques et pour le moment le mot d'ordre semble être de laisser faire... A part ça, n'y a pas beaucoup de contrôles dans le xinjiang et parfois ils sont tellement surpris qu'ils en oublient de te demander les papiers n'hésites pas si tu as besoin d'autres infos Chris
Pas de problème pour conduire en Chine, j'ai traversé le pays d'est en Ouest à moto l'année dernière, mais c'est vrai que la police aux check point ou lors de contrôles volants ne sait pas vraiment quoi faire !!!, en tout cas, ils n'ont pas l'ordre de t'empêcher de circuler ! J'avais un permis international et cela a suffi. A Pékin, j'ai rencontré quelques expat qui roulent à moto sans avoir de permis spécial ni de plaques et pour le moment le mot d'ordre semble être de laisser faire... A part ça, n'y a pas beaucoup de contrôles dans le xinjiang et parfois ils sont tellement surpris qu'ils en oublient de te demander les papiers n'hésites pas si tu as besoin d'autres infos Chris
Aaahh, alors il y aurait peut-etre une solution pour rouler en moto ds le xinjiang. Mais d'après ton site, très beau d'ailleurs, tu es venu de France en moto. Or nous on va en avion à Chengdu et on voudrait acheter une moto là-bas. C'est quand même possible? J'ai mon permis international.
Et sinon, j'ai pleins pleins de questions puisque ça serait notre 1er voyage à moto, et tu as l'air d'être rôdé. Estce que c'est possible de voyager à 2 sur une seule moto pdt 1 mois?
Et si c'est possible de conduire, ils n'ont vraiment pas l'ordre de t'empecher de circuler? En fait on ne peut pas prendre trop de risques parce qu'en septembre on commence une année de fac à chengdu donc on ne peut pas se permettre de transgresser les lois...
Merci de vos infos à tous
Gaëlle
Gaëlle
Oui, rouler est tout à fait possible, il y a un autre motard, qui a fait cette route quelques semaines avant moi, et qui n'a pas eu de pb non plus, j'avais aussi croisé un expat anglais qui faisait le Xinjiang en side avec sa copine chinoise et qui n'avait pas non plus de problèmes pour circuler, après je ne dis pas que c'est légal, mais à mon sens c'est toléré. Après, bien évidemment il ne faut pas avoir d'accrochage, sinon là c'est la m… Je ne me suis fait jeter qu'une fois dans les montagnes entre Yining et Balguntay, sur la piste de Bayanbulak, visiblement la région semblait sous haute surveillance et il fallait un permis spécial. Je m'étais fait arrêter par des flics en civil qui roulent souvent en jeep Cherokee 4x4 banalisé, et ils mont prié de faire demi-tour et de retourner au Kazakhstan !!! ce que j'ai oublié de faire… pour ce qui est des flics en uniforme qui surveillent le trafic, aucun souci avec eux, ils sont beaucoup plus occupés à jouer avec leur téléphone mobile à l'ombre d'un arbre… mais les contrôles se passent super bien et ils sont toujours très serviables quand tu es perdu.
Pour ce qui est d'acheter une moto sur place, je ne sais pas, tu trouves essentiellement des 125, petit mono style 125 CG Honda revus, corrigés et copiés. Il y aussi des side, copie des Oural et autre Dniepr russe. Voyager à deux, oui, c'est possible, mais sur un 125, vu les distances, c'est très grand le Xinjiang !!!, j'ai peur que ça fasse un peu juste, car il vous faudra aussi transporter un peu de matos pour être autonome, de l'essence, de l'eau… le side serait plus approprié. Après, si c'est votre première expérience de voyage moto, la barre est peut-être un peu haute, la route est dure en Chine, trafic important, beaucoup de camions, pistes, routes en travaux et depuis Chengdu, ça fait une sacrée tirée. C'est peut-être une expérience à faire en choisissant un point de départ comme Kashgar, en louant sur place et en rayonnant, à partir de là, tu peux monter vers la frontière pakistanaise, tu as Yarkand et Hotan pas loin…. Je te passerai en mp le mail d'un gars qui a un business de side CJ750 sur Pékin, il pourra peut être t'aider si tu cherches à acheter une moto et te tuyauter sur ce qui est faisable ou pas.
A+Chris
Pour ce qui est d'acheter une moto sur place, je ne sais pas, tu trouves essentiellement des 125, petit mono style 125 CG Honda revus, corrigés et copiés. Il y aussi des side, copie des Oural et autre Dniepr russe. Voyager à deux, oui, c'est possible, mais sur un 125, vu les distances, c'est très grand le Xinjiang !!!, j'ai peur que ça fasse un peu juste, car il vous faudra aussi transporter un peu de matos pour être autonome, de l'essence, de l'eau… le side serait plus approprié. Après, si c'est votre première expérience de voyage moto, la barre est peut-être un peu haute, la route est dure en Chine, trafic important, beaucoup de camions, pistes, routes en travaux et depuis Chengdu, ça fait une sacrée tirée. C'est peut-être une expérience à faire en choisissant un point de départ comme Kashgar, en louant sur place et en rayonnant, à partir de là, tu peux monter vers la frontière pakistanaise, tu as Yarkand et Hotan pas loin…. Je te passerai en mp le mail d'un gars qui a un business de side CJ750 sur Pékin, il pourra peut être t'aider si tu cherches à acheter une moto et te tuyauter sur ce qui est faisable ou pas.
A+Chris
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