je vais partir 10 jours dans le nord du vietnam. J'atterris à Hanoi et ensuite j'aimerais bien louer une moto avec ma copine. Le voyage en moto va etre surement super sympa. J'ai vu sur un message que le mieux etait de quitter Hanoi par train en mettant la moto dedans.
Etant donné que je n'ai malheureusement pas deux mois pour visiter tout le pays, pourriez vous me conseiller un itinéraire sympatoche pour ces 10 jours? J'ai quelques idées sur la question mais j'aimerais bien bien avoir votre avis.
Merci d'avance,
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
salut
10 jours c'est plus que court, quel dommage de dépenser un budget avion et visa pour 10 jours seulement.
toutefois il y a donc deux tours à faire à moto, le premier, hanoi lao cai en train avec moto à l'intérieur, arrivé le lendemain très tôt, direction sapa, puis lai chau, dien bien phu, son la, mai chau, hanoi.
le 2e, hanoi, lang son, cao bang, lac de ba bê, hanoi.
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Alors je ne l'ai aps dit dans mon message mais ensuite je aprs 12 jours à Siem Reap au cambodge. J'ai mon amie qui travaille la bas et je vais voir un peu de quoi son quotidien est fait.
MAis c'est vrai que nous n'avons que 10 jours. J'ai vu sur les guides que du coté de Ninh Binh, il y avait une belle ballade à faire. Cela vaut il le coup? Je comptais en effet descendre jusuq'a Ninh Binh et ensuite remonter vers la baie d'halong en longeant la mer et ensuite peut etre remonter un peu plus vers le nord s'il reste du temps avant de reprendre l'avion pour faire Hanoi Phnom pen.
Le gros souci c'est que j'ai un mal fou a voir le temps que cela prend en moto. Et moi et ma copine n'avons aucune envie de passer tout notre temps sur l'engin. Je prefererais plutot rencontrer des gens, visiter des coins, nous reposer un peu ( mais pas trop ;) )
En tout cas merci pour vos réponses.. je vais continuer a farfouiller pour avoir d'autres infos...
tu vois sur la carte un tracé en rouge au départ de Hanoi pour te rendre au Lac BaBe, ensuite au marché Bac Ha (il faut venir ici le Dimanche), ensuite Lao Cai, Sapa, Lai Chau, Dien Bien Phu, Son La, Moc Chau puis Hanoi. Tu peux emprunter une option sur le tracé en violet pour te rendre à Yen Bai en visitant la chute de Thac Ba, avant de redescendre vers Hanoi.
2ème proposition, si l'on a beaucoup de temps
en englobant la région de Lang Son (Minorité Viet, Tay, Nung, Dao, H'Mong, San Chay, Ngai, à visiter le marché de Ky Lua pour rencontrer toutes les minorités ethniques, la Vallée Chi Lang et Le mont Mau Son à visiter au Printemps, imaginez les fleurs de pêchers et les feuilles de Thé Vert pour composer le tableau) et Cao Bang (Minorités Tay, Nung, Dao, Mong, Viet, Hoa, San Chay, à visiter la chute de Ban Gioc, un peu vers le Nord Est près de la frontière chinoise, la plus belle du VietNam et le lac Thang Hen, l'un des 36 lacs de montagne du VietNam).
N'hésites pas à quitter la route principale pour t'engager dans les villages, tu seras vraiment au près de ces habitants. Les tracés en violets sont optionnels, il y en a un à l'Ouest qui t'amène vers le parc naturel de Bai Tu Long.
Le Parc Ba Be (minorités ethniques Dao, H’mong et Tay) qui contient le Lac Ba Be est d'une beauté extraordinaire. C'est là qu'on trouve le fameux phoenix (Phuong Hoang Dat) qui vit sur le sol. Je préfèrerais une traduction littérale Aigle Royale Terrestre.
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
Tellement de belles choses à voir!!! Arf.. et seulement 10 jours j'enrage... Je vais regarder plus en détail ce dont tu me parles... Je trouve que la boucle est immense à parcourir. De plus, fin juin debut juillet j'ai peur que les routes ne soient pas toutes tres praticables...
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
Merci de prendre de tout ce temps pour me répondre. La photo donne envie en effet... Je sens que cela va etre un voyage initiatique pour moi qui n'ai jamais été plus loin que l'autriche jusq'à présent...
Pour avoir parcouru le pays dans tous les sens - un petit conseil - si vous ne connaissez pas le vietnam commencez votre voyage par le nord ouest (hanoi lao cai en train avec moto à l'intérieur, arrivé le lendemain très tôt, direction sapa, puis lai chau, dien bien phu, son la, mai chau, hanoi) la route et les structures sont meilleures - Mais si vous désirez un changement radical - des paysages sans aucune comparaison et des nids de poules pour pouvez choisir l'autre parcours (attention aux conditions sanitaires, c'est pas encore vraiment développé)
quelques photos a voir sur www.mosaique-vietnam.com
en effet c'est à Abalone que je pensais répondre - suis pas très douée pour me retrouver dans vos question réponse - désolée
Par contre ne pas oublier que c'est la saison des pluies et que le meilleur moment pour visiter c'est entre octobre et décembre (bien que un peu plus froid)
Je vois que pas mal de choses se disent sur ta question. toutes ne sont pas vraies ou pas les meilleurs choix de voyage (par exemple ne passe pas par Dien Bien si tu viens de Muong Lay, mais choisis plutot la route des cretes, moins connue mais plus de 10 cols sur environ 80 km c'est a ne pas manquer!).
Tu as beaucoup beaucoup d'itineraires possibles en 10 jours au Nord et en evitant certains endroits trop frequentes (les camions vietnamiens sur la route c'est pas genial). Contacte des professionnels sur place, ne serait ce que pour avoir des infos et des conseils d'itineraires. La moto c'est marrant mais va renverser par accident un gamin dans un village et tu verras que si t'es pas organise ca peut tout de suite devenir beaucoup moins drole. Meme la location de moto devient moins facile, Dr Cuong est en train de fermer ses portes... malheur. Bref, je te conseille de rentrer en contact avec une compagnie specialisee, de recolter de l'information precise et juste et de t'organiser au minimum.
je vois que tu as fais comme moi mauvais adressage lol. en fait je répondais a quelqu'un. Je connais assez bien la région pour savoir que Dien Bien ne vaut pas le déplacement et que la moto vaut mieux se faire conduire que la conduire soi même c'est plus prudent.
Merci quand même de la réponse qui je l'espère sera lue par des gens en quête d'information.
Si cela t'intéresse parcontre tu peux aller voir le site que nous faisons avec un ami guide sur place www.mosaique-vietnam.com.
Je vous avouerais que je débute en moto. Mais que j'ai bien envie d'essayer là bas... Je ne suis pas un fou de la route en voiture et en moto je crois que je ne serais que plus prudent encore.. Je ne suis pas vraimetn pressé et je compte bien prendre mon temps pour visiter la région.
Vu les conditions climatiques et le peu de temps que je dispose pour visiter le nord vietnam, je crains de ne pas avoir le temps de monter en haut dans les montagnes. Je compte bien par contre me faire la baie d'Halong terrestre et maritime, me trouver de petites guest house sympatoche sur la route. Je ne sais pas encore les routes que prendrais ensuite, mais une chose est sur, je vais y aller tranquillement... :))
Reste t'il quand meme un endroit bien pour louer un moto pour 10 jours sur Hanoi?
Merci pour tous vos tuyaux et vos conseils de route...
Reste t'il quand meme un endroit bien pour louer un moto pour 10 jours sur Hanoi?
tu peux le faire directement avec l'hotel où tu logeras, et si tu peux évite de laisser ton passeport en échange mais plutôt ta carte d'identité, et explique qu'il te le faudra pour les autres hotels pendant ton circuit. en général ça marche, du moins pour moi, mais j'ai l'habitude de descendre toujours au même endroit à hanoi, et j'ai toujours le même loueur, donc on se connait un peu.
Super ce circuit Abalone!!!!
Je pars 21 jours ds le nord du vietnam en novembre et je compte passer par la frontière de DBF pour passer au laos rester 3 sem aussi.
J'avais très envie de faire la baie d'along ainsi que cao bang, lac babe et sapa et ses environs...mais ss chauffeur car petit budget...
La moto serait le bon plan mais est-ce faisable quand on n'a jamais roulé qu'en voiture?
J'arrive demain HCMC avant de remonter dans le nord. Je voulais ensuite acheter une moto a Hanoi pour pouvoir visiter le nord en passant par la baie d'along…
Je prépare un classique pour début février: le nord Vietnam en moto, départ d'Hanoi sans doute. J'ai pas mal potassé les forums, j'ai donc déjà beaucoup…
Nous arrivons à Hanoi avec mon mari le mardi 14 Avril très tôt et nous comptons prendre un bus direction Ha Giang. Nous n'avons pas bcp de temps mais aimerions…
En janvier 2026 je prépare un voyage en moto dans le nord Vietnam sur 3/4 semaines. Les obliges sont: Hanoi, RC4, Dien Bien Phu, sans oublier les paysages…
Hey everyone!
New to the forum, but not so new to Asia 😄
I’m Nico, from Switzerland, currently based in Bangkok. I love taking my motorcycle out to get lost in the mountains and small villages of Thailand, Laos, Vietnam, and more. I’ve been roaming around this area for a good fifteen years now, racking up quite a few kilometers—especially in northern Vietnam.
This time, I finally decided to tackle the Mae Hong Son Loop, clockwise. I’d been to Pai several times before, but oddly enough, I’d never done the full loop.
So, I’ll try to give you a little recap here, day by day, with the roads, stops, places worth checking out… and those that didn’t quite blow my mind 😅
I also filmed the trip, so I’ll post the corresponding video at the end of each day if that’s okay. If it’s not allowed here, just let me know, and I’ll remove them without any issue.
DAY 1 — Chiang Mai → Doi Inthanon → Mae Chaem → Khun Yuam
I left Chiang Mai after renting a Honda ADV 160 from Pop Motorbike. Not exactly an Africa Twin, but for what I had planned, it was more than enough.
Quick hotel note: I stayed at the Lanna Thaphae Hotel before leaving. Around 30 € per night, super well-located, and probably one of the most comfortable beds I’ve ever slept in. A crucial detail for any motorcycle road trip, obviously.
The plan for the day was pretty straightforward:
Head toward Doi Inthanon… and see what happens.
Flawless Swiss organization.
First stop along the way at Wachirathan Waterfall. A really nice waterfall, very easy to access, but don’t expect to channel your inner Indiana Jones—it’s crowded, touristy, and swimming isn’t allowed. Still, it’s a pretty stop along the way.
Next, up to Doi Inthanon.
The road climbs steeply, and my little 160cc started to realize that carrying my 80 kg to Thailand’s highest point probably wasn’t part of its youthful dreams. I was maxing out at 34 km/h in some spots.
But it made it. Good little bike.
The summit is nice—the forest is beautiful, and it’s cool—but I have to admit, it didn’t completely wow me. Glad I went, but not necessarily the highlight of the day for me.
Because then comes Route 1192.
And that’s *much* more my thing: small mountain roads, beautiful scenery, hardly any traffic… the kind of road where I usually start taking way too many unnecessary detours just because a little side road “looks fun.”
Stopped in Mae Chaem for a bite to eat, then headed to Khun Yuam to finish the day.
A little over 200 km in total.
Khun Yuam is… quiet.
*Very* quiet. 😅
A cute little market, a couple of cafés/restaurants, and zero chance of ending up in a club until 4 AM. But after a day on the bike, it was perfect.
Stayed at the Mit Khun Yuam Hotel, around 20 € for a small but very decent room.
All in all, a solid first day and a pretty relaxed start to the loop. Part of this leg is mostly about getting out of Chiang Mai and really diving into the mountains, in my opinion.
Because for me, the really interesting stuff starts over the next two days…
And a few slightly questionable route decisions will also make an appearance 😅
If anyone’s planning the Mae Hong Son Loop, feel free to ask your questions—I’d be happy to answer!
I also filmed this first day, so for those who’d rather see the roads and landscapes than read my rambling, here’s Day 1 😊
DAY 1 VIDEO
I’ll post the next part in the coming days with Day 2: Khun Yuam → Mae Surin → Mae Hong Son.
And that’s where it starts getting *really* fun. 😉
That’s all for now! Looking forward to contributing as much as I can to the forum!
I’d like to ride from Mahajanga to Morondava, sticking as close to the coast as possible—using roads and tracks—in September 2026. If you’ve got any suggestions, let me know! 😉
hi
I’m planning a 10-month trip to South America, and I’m looking into options for shipping a motorcycle to Buenos Aires by air or sea. If anyone has any info, thanks in advance!
christian
Hello everyone.
I'm looking for campsites around BOLZANO (South Tyrol) for early September.
I'll be on my motorcycle with a small tent.
I've noticed that some campsites have exorbitant prices.
If you've traveled through the Dolomites by motorcycle or otherwise and camped there, I'd love any tips on places and prices where I can stay for one night or several.
Thanks to all of you, and happy travels.
I’m starting to think about a trip that’s really close to my heart: Algeria by motorcycle, specifically the southern part of the country. It’d be for January 2025, and I’ve got two main questions:
Is it possible for an individual on a motorcycle to travel freely, outside of any organized tour, or does the regulation require some kind of supervision in the Algerian Sahara region?
Is the Hoggar massif accessible by road or by (rideable) tracks?
Beyond the official recommendations, I’m really looking for your firsthand experiences.
Thanks so much for your answers, and sorry if my questions are a bit newbie!
I just realized I’ve been registered on VoyageForum since... March 28, 2012 😊. Yet, I’ve barely participated until now.
August 1, 2026, will mark a somewhat special milestone: 5 years on the road.
We left Switzerland on August 1, 2021 with a simple idea: let chance decide our direction. We placed a bottle of wine on a world map, spun it... and it chose our first destination.
A year later, when we arrived in Morocco, we faced a new choice: continue toward Africa or head to Asia. This time, a tarot card game made the decision. Since then, we’ve tried to keep this journey as open to the unexpected as possible.
Today, that adds up to about 120,000 km, 46 countries, and over 1,800 days on the road—mostly by motorcycle, but also by sailboat, train, bus, hitchhiking, or on foot when adventure calls.
Our guiding thread isn’t just the motorcycle, but service exchanges. Instead of simply passing through countries, we try to stop regularly to lend a hand to the people we meet. So far, that’s about 600 days of volunteering.
Over the years, we’ve:
renovated a house in Croatia
made earth bricks in the Moroccan desert
helped sail a boat through the Greek islands
looked after houses, dogs, horses, a camel... and lots of other animals
worked at a street art festival in Morocco
created videos for local associations and projects
worked the grape harvest on the Tibetan plateau
been accredited as "media" for the World Nomad Games in Central Asia
Some of the moments that have stuck with us the most include six months in China, a night spent on the Great Wall, the Pamir Highway, the Silk Road, three months in Taiwan, and the incredible encounters in the mountains of Central Asia.
We travel on Falkor, our lucky dragon—a 2014 BMW F800GS that’s been with us since the start and is starting to have some great stories of its own.
While we share our adventure on Instagram, Polarsteps, and YouTube, that’s not why we’re here. The forum’s rules about promotion are clear, and I totally get them. If I’m finally taking the time to write, it’s mostly because after five years on the road, I thought our experience might be useful to other travelers.
Happy to chat about:
preparing for a long motorcycle trip
visas and borders
the Silk Road and Central Asia
riding in China (with or without a motorcycle)
volunteering and service exchanges while traveling
gear, daily life on the road... or just the unexpected moments that make long-term travel so special
Looking forward to swapping stories and hearing about your adventures too! 😊 Greetings from Thailand, and happy to chat! ✌️
Hello, I’m retired and planning a roughly 3-week motorcycle trip (1200gs). The dates aren’t set in stone yet, and everything’s open to discussion—I’m pretty flexible with the planning.
hi
planning to ride through Rajasthan on a motorcycle in January 2027 and I’d love to hear about the road conditions.
I’ll be riding with a buddy on a Royal Enfield that I’ll rent in Delhi.
Thanks for your tips!
hi there
I’d like to ride the RN 12 by motorcycle in September.
I’d love to know the main challenges—I ride a 300cc and do enduro in France.
Thanks for your tips!
I’m planning a motorcycle road trip to Armenia and Georgia in September 2026 or May 2027. I’m looking for one or more riders (male or female) who’d like to explore these countries with me.
Along the way, we’ll visit Cappadocia, the capitals Yerevan, Tbilisi, Sofia, Skopje, and other cities—we can finalize the route and roadbook later.
This trip requires experience with long motorcycle journeys, as we’ll cover around 7,000 km over 5 or 6 weeks (or more, depending on sightseeing and time spent).
I don’t expect dozens of applicants, since motorcycle riders are few and far between on this forum, but I’m putting this out there anyway.
Hi, I’d like to take a 15-day "break" to get away from the surrounding hustle and bustle.
Why not explore the Peloponnese!
I’m not particularly drawn to museums, ruins, or monuments.
I want to experience local life—small villages, seaside spots, beaches, and the interior if the landscapes are extraordinary.
Ideally, coming from Athens, I’d take a bus or train to get as close as possible to a starting point, then rent a scooter (125cc) to explore by taking secondary roads or even coastal paths. I’d stay in 2-3 places for a few days each to discover their surroundings.
Do a loop.
What do you think would be the ideal itinerary?
From Athens, the best option would be to take either a flight or a bus to Kalamata. Rent a scooter and head either west or east. Is there a tertiary road (very lightly trafficked) or a path where I can ride slowly, take it easy, and enjoy the scenery without being bothered by traffic? I’d like to go all the way to Monemvasia, still hugging the coast. I need to find a way to avoid returning to Kalamata to drop off the scooter and catch a flight—maybe a small town where the train stops so I can head back to Athens.
Thanks in advance for your tips.
I want to rent an off-road style motorcycle to get around the coast during my trip to Ecuador. I’m only finding options in Quito. Do you have any suggestions for me?
Hi there,
I’m planning a sidecar trip to South America for 4 or 5 months at the end of this year.
I’m looking for info on shipping my vehicle by sea—possibly to Uruguay or another destination, as I haven’t finalized anything yet.
How do you get visas for the countries I’ll be crossing: Uruguay, Argentina, Bolivia, Peru, and Chile? Are they e-Visas, obtained at the border, or through embassies?
Where can I get vehicle insurance?
Lastly, if any bikers want to join us (my partner and me), we’re open to that possibility too.
Patrick
I’ve got 15 days off in June and I’m pretty undecided about where to go for a motorcycle road trip. Two strong desires are pulling me in different directions: Corsica or Norway.
Corsica has been a dream of mine for a long time: legendary roads, stunning landscapes, a unique vibe, and the perfect mix of sea and mountains. At the same time, I’m wondering if 2 weeks might be *too much* for Corsica—risking feeling like I’ve seen it all too quickly, especially on a bike.
Since I also have an extra week free in May, I could use that specifically for Corsica. Maybe splitting it into two trips would make more sense? If so, which routes or regions would be the most interesting to plan for a 7-day trip?
On the other hand, Norway is *super* appealing. The landscapes look incredible, totally different from anything I’ve experienced, and it’d be a real “wow” trip. I know 15 days is still short for such a vast country. Getting all the way to the North Cape seems pretty much impossible in that time, but I’m curious about what realistic routes could be planned.
So I’m wondering:
Is it better to save Norway for next year, take 3 weeks off, and do it *properly*?
Or are 15 days enough for a first amazing taste of the country?
I’d love to hear about your experiences—whether it’s Corsica (ideal duration, routes) or Norway (what’s realistic in 2 weeks on a bike).
Thanks in advance for your thoughts!
Hello,
I'm thinking of buying a used small motorcycle to travel around the country for a month and a half.
I've done this in other countries without putting the registration in my name—is that possible in Guinea given the apparently frequent checks, or do I have to go through the paperwork?
Thanks.
Hello,
My dream is to ride Route 66 by motorcycle. I have a disability—while I’m not in a wheelchair, my walking mobility is reduced.
The ideal scenario would be to have a motorcycle driver and ride as their passenger on an organized trip.
Are there any guides or services like this offered by travel agencies?
Thanks for sharing your experiences!
Hello,
I’ve got a plan with a friend to go on a motorcycle road trip in 2028 or 2029, starting in Santiago de Chile and ending in Ushuaia, for about a month.
Has anyone done a trip like this before, and what’s the best time of year?
I’ve heard there can be quite a bit of wind depending on the season.
Thanks for any tips!
Cheers,
PA
I'm seriously considering heading to Nepal to do some nice motorcycle loops... my goal is also to do the Kailash Yatra round trip from Kathmandu, in a small group with a guide, in May '26... but here's the thing—I'm solo! So if you're up for sharing a similar adventure, hit me up... Cheers, Frankoys
It's all in the title: I'm heading to Krabi soon and want to rent a scooter for a few weeks, but after reading comments about all kinds of scams, I'm reaching out to ask where and how (read: *the right way*) to rent one.
Thanks for your tips and advice.
Hello everyone! Like every year, a winter migration is on the horizon (revised plan): this time, it’ll be Dakar, or even Abidjan, via Morocco, Mauritania, and Senegal.
Looking for an experienced motorcyclist or pillion rider—small build preferred—on a GSA 1250 with a comfy seat and luggage setup, available from early November to late December 2025. I’d like to plan the trip together (important to me) to make sure we’re on the same wavelength.
Don’t hesitate to get in touch!
Didier
Looking for travel companions to ride from France to Senegal by motorcycle.
I’m Paul, 37, and I’ve already done a bit of riding in Morocco.
For now, I’m solo, riding a 1998 SUZUKI DR 650 with some basic gear to keep things smooth. I’ll have a tent so we can do a few nights under the stars.
We’ll need to coordinate departure dates—"ideally in November."
I’m currently checking out routes to take. Any tips would be welcome! :)
I’m heading to Vietnam and Laos with a buddy next week for a month.
We’re thinking of renting motorbikes, especially to do the Ha Giang Loop. We don’t have an international license, just our Belgian one. Is that enough? If not, is it risky?
In November, we’re planning to do the Ha Giang loop and the RC4 by motorbike without a guide. 😎
We’re looking for a decent place to stay/rent in Ha Giang.
If anyone has any info, we’d be really interested.
Hello! We’re planning a motorcycle trip that will include a visit to Auschwitz-Birkenau in June 2026.
We’re unsure (still debating) whether we should stay at a hotel on-site and get to the memorial with an Uber (leaving our bikes at the hotel) and book a guided tour, or base ourselves in Kraków and take a tour that includes transport.
One thing’s for sure—we’d prefer a guide in French since we don’t speak English 😅.
Could you share your experiences or advice?
I understand we need to book online rather than on-site.
Thanks in advance for your replies!
Hello,
Next October we’re planning to ride the Ruta de la Plata by motorcycle—a historic Spanish route that runs from Gijón to Seville, also known as the N630.
Has anyone here already ridden it?
Unfortunately, I’m worried that parts of the N630 may have disappeared or merged with the A66 motorway, forcing us to ride long stretches of highway, which we’d rather avoid.
Thanks in advance for any tips or details about this route!