Nourriture en rando en autonomie complète
by Jsab
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour,
Qu'emmenez-vous comme nourriture ds vos sacs à dos quand vous partez plusieurs jours en autonomie complète, avec tente et tout le barda ?
Lyophilisés : lesquels, combien par jr ? Et puis ?...
Nous on tourne pas loin d'1 kg par jour / personne (à cause du pain ! Malgré les lyophilisés !), je suis sûre qu'on peut faire mieux sans pour autant crever de faim (et je déteste avoir la dalle !!).
J'attends vos bons plans à vous... Merci.
Ma base ce sont les pates (avec des sauces en poudre, du fromage et du poisson en boite), des cereales (porridge, semoule) plus fruits secs, chocolat, biscuits. Il faut compter 800 g par jour: 8 x 400 cal/100 g = 3200 calories par jour, un minumum pour un trek de plusieurs jours.
Bonjour, pour ma part 2 hyophi de pate par jour, lait en poudre, muesli, pour le grignotage pate d amande et fruit sec.Ensuite selon les pays et village traverse, je completerai avec des sardines et du pain(au maroc par exemple)Bon voyage a tous Patrice
que serait on sans le voyage
perso je n'aime pas trop les lyophilises specials rando (en plus c'est tres cher)
j'utilise beaucoup les nouilles chinoises (achetees chez les chinois c'est meilleur, 3 paquets pour 2 en rando) ) la semoule au lait et le riz au lait de chez ancel à reconstituer (evec du lait en poudre) est une bonne alternative au muesli du matin
avant de partir je teste un certains nombres de deshydrates en grande surface (style nouilles et riz cuisines) pour en aprecier le gout evaluer la quantite je regarde aussi le temps de cuisson
j'emporte aussi beaucoup de soupe style mouline aux legumes (avec qq croutons c'est festif et pas lourd)
en vivre de course je fabrique mon propre melange de fruits secs (je trouve les barres de cereales trop sucrées) il y a aussi des sucreries interressantes chez les chinois :des crackers au sesame ou aux cacahuetes
pour le pain je prends des tranches de pain noirs (qui se garde bien ) des crackers :les chinois en font des tres bon (à la ciboulette)
lyophilisés ou pas, de toutes façons, il faut de l'eau et en pays "sec", ça fait du poids .... en fait, sauf expé "sérieuse" les plats "lyophilisés" chers (trop chers) ne se justifient guère ... pâtes, riz, purée (base en glucides - guère plus lourd que les sachets ... ) - le reste (protides - fruits ...) selon les ressources du lieu et du moment (vous refuseriez de porter un fromage ou une spécialité locale pour cause de poids ??) - Le meilleur plan, je crois, c'est économiser du poids sur tout, sauf sur le "carburant" énergétique, l'autonomie en boisson ... et pour le reste, compter sur un peu de "musculation" et sur le développement de la sienne au fil des randos ...
michel mathieu
www.lethieu39.fr
Salut à tous randoneurs légers
Il ya la de bonnes idées, en particulier de la part de Marie31.
Pour ma part je fais tous aussi pour être léger (et pas chére): pour la bouffe j'opte pour des pates type vermicelle, cuisson 1mn, semoule précuite, les proportions sont de 100g à150 pour le repas du soir que l'on agrémente d'ail, d'huile d'olive ou autre verdure trouvée sur le terrain. cela apporte vitamine et glucide. Le chocolat oir me parrait aussi le meilleur rapport calorie poid, et bon en plus.
Et le pain. cruel dileme, pour le midi, repas froid c'est indispensable mais la portion entre 50g et100g et corect. pour le soir et le matin avec votre réchaud ou au feu de bois. vous faite chapati. de la farine et de l'eau...
guilaumus
Voyager c’est se fondre dans un autre monde pour se laisser remodeler.
http://naturemontagne.wordpress.com/
https://ecogitestien.wordpress.com/
A peu près tout a été dit, déjà. Personnellement, je n'aime pas les lyophilisés, mon budget non plus d'ailleurs.
Je privilégie le "sec" : nouilles, riz, blé, céréales de type "tipiac" dont certaines sont très savoureuses, mélange perso de raisins secs/amandes/noisettes/abricots secs, que je supporte bien mieux aux barres industrielles trop sucrées à mon goût.
Mais aussi : saucisson sec, jambon de pays, viande des grisons (çà peut se conserver roulé dans la veste de fourrure polaire ou la doudoune...), pain noir (un truc allemand qu'on ne trouve pas toujours).
Et du parmesan en bloc, pas rappé, c'est très sec, çà tient bien quelques jours aussi.
Le chocolat, oui si le temps n'est pas à la canicule. Et du sel, des soupes en sachets, un moulin en plastique de "5 baies" (mélanges de poivres et coriandre etc..). Avec çà, les moindres coquillettes sont gouteuses...
Et même si je ne suis pas très gras, je compte sur mes réserves de graisses qui physiologiquement sont prévues pour les périodes de "disette" même toute relative : c'est fou comme l'organisme s'adapte ! Je crois qu'un des secrets est d'éviter au maximum les produits très sucrés comme les barres industrielles et les sodas les jours qui précédent une tel raid en autonomie.
Et après 3, 4 ou 10 jours, la place de village avec épicerie, fruits et légumes, boucherie, charcuterie et bar à bière semble une oasis, même si on est à Trifouilly les oies !
Et du parmesan en bloc, pas rappé, c'est très sec, çà tient bien quelques jours aussi.
Le chocolat, oui si le temps n'est pas à la canicule. Et du sel, des soupes en sachets, un moulin en plastique de "5 baies" (mélanges de poivres et coriandre etc..). Avec çà, les moindres coquillettes sont gouteuses...
Et même si je ne suis pas très gras, je compte sur mes réserves de graisses qui physiologiquement sont prévues pour les périodes de "disette" même toute relative : c'est fou comme l'organisme s'adapte ! Je crois qu'un des secrets est d'éviter au maximum les produits très sucrés comme les barres industrielles et les sodas les jours qui précédent une tel raid en autonomie.
Et après 3, 4 ou 10 jours, la place de village avec épicerie, fruits et légumes, boucherie, charcuterie et bar à bière semble une oasis, même si on est à Trifouilly les oies !
pour ma part j'utilise un peu tous ce qui a été dit dans les messages precedents
mais apres un sejour au quebec j'ai acheter un bouquin sur la cuisine en plein air
fait par odile dumais qui depuis près de vingt ans, prépare des repas pour des expéditions internationales. et donc dans son livre il y a plein d'idée de recette simple a préparer chez soi, super bonne et pas trop lourd
http://www.physio2000.com/odiledumais/odile.html
http://www.physio2000.com/odiledumais/odile.html
mathias
Après de longues randos en France GR5/10/34/54 et la traversée de la Nouvelle Zélande à pieds sur le Te Araroa Trail durant 5 mois,
Voici un petit résumé de mon alimentation en rando:
https://throughtramp.wordpress.com/2015/08/24/alimentation-en-rando
Voici un petit résumé de mon alimentation en rando:
https://throughtramp.wordpress.com/2015/08/24/alimentation-en-rando
Te Araora Supertramp: http://throughtramp.wordpress.com/
3000km à pied pour 4 à 6 mois de marche en Nouvelle-Zélande
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I’ve been wanting to do this for several years, and this year’s the one. Next September, I’ll be trekking in Tusheti (Georgia), from Omalo to Shatili. Of course, I won’t be renting a vehicle that’d just sit unused. No problem getting to Pshaveli, but from there to Omalo, it’s a dirt road (still the case?) There must be some form of public transport since there are so many guesthouses, and not all travelers come in a 4x4. If any of you have been to Omalo, could you confirm that these shared transports exist and how often they run?
hi
we’re planning a trip to Yellowstone and hoping to do a three-day backcountry hike if we get a permit. if any of you have done this before, could you let me know if it’s possible to find water along the way? And if we can transport it, are we allowed to use a stove?
thanks for any tips!
sandra
we’re planning a trip to Yellowstone and hoping to do a three-day backcountry hike if we get a permit. if any of you have done this before, could you let me know if it’s possible to find water along the way? And if we can transport it, are we allowed to use a stove?
thanks for any tips!
sandra
Hello,
I’ll be in Nepal from March 6th to 29th (we’re flying into Kathmandu via Varanasi and leaving via Delhi).
I’m a bit confused about the regulations requiring a guide.
My wife and I (we’re 63 and 64) aren’t experienced trekkers—we’re more used to walking on terrain with very moderate elevation changes. I’m looking for fairly easy hikes, possibly day trips. Here are my questions: - Does the Poon Hill trek from Pokhara require a guide, or is it better to go through a local agency? (I’ve seen a lot of them offering 4-day packages) - I’d like to do a few multi-day hikes around Jomsom (Kagbeni, Mukitinath, Lupra, Marpha)... Do you need a guide for those, and can you find accommodations easily without booking in advance?
Last question—I’m really hesitant to lug around a sleeping bag or down jacket during our 6 weeks in India. Can you easily find these kinds of items at reasonable prices in Pokhara?
Thanks in advance for any tips you can share! Yann
My wife and I (we’re 63 and 64) aren’t experienced trekkers—we’re more used to walking on terrain with very moderate elevation changes. I’m looking for fairly easy hikes, possibly day trips. Here are my questions: - Does the Poon Hill trek from Pokhara require a guide, or is it better to go through a local agency? (I’ve seen a lot of them offering 4-day packages) - I’d like to do a few multi-day hikes around Jomsom (Kagbeni, Mukitinath, Lupra, Marpha)... Do you need a guide for those, and can you find accommodations easily without booking in advance?
Last question—I’m really hesitant to lug around a sleeping bag or down jacket during our 6 weeks in India. Can you easily find these kinds of items at reasonable prices in Pokhara?
Thanks in advance for any tips you can share! Yann
Hello.
I’m a 56-year-old man who’s done several treks in Nepal and elsewhere. Also passionate about photography. I’m looking for one or more people to form a group for a trek in Nepal. The trek is the Annapurna and Manaslu circuit (24 days), including a stop at Tilicho Lake. I’ve got a great itinerary and the local company seems solid. The price is around $1600. I’ll be in Nepal from April 5 to May 12, 2026, so the trek would need to happen within those dates.
Daniel, Québec, Canada
I’m a 56-year-old man who’s done several treks in Nepal and elsewhere. Also passionate about photography. I’m looking for one or more people to form a group for a trek in Nepal. The trek is the Annapurna and Manaslu circuit (24 days), including a stop at Tilicho Lake. I’ve got a great itinerary and the local company seems solid. The price is around $1600. I’ll be in Nepal from April 5 to May 12, 2026, so the trek would need to happen within those dates.
Daniel, Québec, Canada