Organisation d'un voyage à Ghardaia (Algérie)
by Severineb01
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour,
Nous prévoyons un voyage à Ghardaia en décembre.
On m'a parlé de logement possible en maison traditionnelle, mais je n'ai pas pu avoir de coordonnées. Comment faire ?
Et, comment trouver un guide sur place ?
Tous les conseils sont les bienvenus
Séverine
Bonjour,
L'herbergement en maison traditionnelle il paraît que ça se fait du coté de Beni Isquen ; jamais testé sauf les pailottes dans la palmeraie (en fait les jardins annénagés). Les coordonnées sont dispo à l'office des guides (Ghardaïa-Beni Isquen). Expérience ancienne qualifiée de moyenne...
Les guides : ce n'est pas un problème : il y a un office à l'entrée de Beni Isquen et pas possible de passer à coté puisque c'est la seule porte d'ouverte. Ghardaïa association des guides sur la place du marché à droite vers le milieu de la place (en montant sur Ghardaïa vielle ville justement). Une adresse : Association d'Orientation Touristique Chez Maison FEKHAR Rue Cheikk Ammi Saïd DZ GHARDAIA 47000 Tel/fax +213 29 88 26 99 aotgm@yahoo.fr
Seules ces deux ville requièrent un guide, quoique El Atteuf vielle ville aussi, ce peut être l'un des offices qui le fait.
Il y a un office de tourisme à Ghardaïa aussi.
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L'herbergement en maison traditionnelle il paraît que ça se fait du coté de Beni Isquen ; jamais testé sauf les pailottes dans la palmeraie (en fait les jardins annénagés). Les coordonnées sont dispo à l'office des guides (Ghardaïa-Beni Isquen). Expérience ancienne qualifiée de moyenne...
Les guides : ce n'est pas un problème : il y a un office à l'entrée de Beni Isquen et pas possible de passer à coté puisque c'est la seule porte d'ouverte. Ghardaïa association des guides sur la place du marché à droite vers le milieu de la place (en montant sur Ghardaïa vielle ville justement). Une adresse : Association d'Orientation Touristique Chez Maison FEKHAR Rue Cheikk Ammi Saïd DZ GHARDAIA 47000 Tel/fax +213 29 88 26 99 aotgm@yahoo.fr
Seules ces deux ville requièrent un guide, quoique El Atteuf vielle ville aussi, ce peut être l'un des offices qui le fait.
Il y a un office de tourisme à Ghardaïa aussi.
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Rouler Jeunesse
Bonjour,
Effectivement, il y a des "résidences" traditionnelles dans la palmeraie de Beni Isguen, un lieu magnifique !
Pour visiter Beni Isguen, tu passeras par un guide obligatoire à l'entrée de la ville. Par contre, tu peux visiter Ghardaia sans recours à un guide obligatoire. Le guide peut être utile pour connaître les endroits un peu insolites ou traditionnels.
Votre voyage ne porte que sur Ghardaia et les environs ? Pas d'autres lieux ? Il faut savoir qu'un séjour de 3 à 4 jours maximum suffisent (dixit des amis mozabites) !
Selon votre programme, je peux vous donner d'autres conseils, connaissant bien la région, étant très souvent dans la Wilaya pour raisons professionnelles et personnelles....
Lili
Effectivement, il y a des "résidences" traditionnelles dans la palmeraie de Beni Isguen, un lieu magnifique !
Pour visiter Beni Isguen, tu passeras par un guide obligatoire à l'entrée de la ville. Par contre, tu peux visiter Ghardaia sans recours à un guide obligatoire. Le guide peut être utile pour connaître les endroits un peu insolites ou traditionnels.
Votre voyage ne porte que sur Ghardaia et les environs ? Pas d'autres lieux ? Il faut savoir qu'un séjour de 3 à 4 jours maximum suffisent (dixit des amis mozabites) !
Selon votre programme, je peux vous donner d'autres conseils, connaissant bien la région, étant très souvent dans la Wilaya pour raisons professionnelles et personnelles....
Lili
Il n'y a personne qui soit née sous une mauvaise étoile, il n'y a que des gens qui ne savent pas lire le ciel. (Dalaï Lama)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
Bonjour,
Faux, Ghardaïa guide obligatoire sinon on n'ira même pas jusqu'à la place de l'ancien marché (non fonctionnel).
Les rues jusqu'au marché et de sortie vers la palmeraie ainsi que la rue continuante étant libres : c'est pas ghardaïa, même si cela en fait partie !
Pour monter à la vielle ville il y a une pancarte en Français et en Anglais ! Elle existait en 85 et n'a pas changé. Accompagné = montée jusqu'au cimetière par différentes ruelles et visite de l'Ecole Coranique donc traversée totale + explications qui mériteraient plus de profondeur et d'actualités (trop enveloppées). Possibilité d'extention vers la palmeraie et le système d'irrigation (longuet). Ghardaïa, ce n'est pas qu'une vue rétrécie de la place du marché et des rues environnantes sauf une tronquée par le panneau... Essayez ?
Guide officiel ou pas, il faut être accompagné !... pour aller où l'on veut.
Par contre, Beni Isguen est possible à certaines heures. Mais à quoi bon car on ne voit rien et l'on est vu.
Les résidences traditionnelles relatées dans l'ancien Guide Bleu et du Routard aussi sont exclusivement dans Beni Isguen ville et les autres de la pentapole, pas dans la palmeraie qui ne se prête pas à ce genre d'habitat (là où l'espace manque, l'excès ne devient que caricatural). Mais piscine (bassin bétonné), proposée parfois.
Mélika-Bou Noura = libres.
Et Berriane c'est plus compliqué.
El Atteuf : libre aux extérieurs proches, visite de la mosquée Sidi Brahim libre. Mais essayez de monter seul dans la vieille ville ??? plus qu'ailleurs !
Au fait, seule Ghardaïa est photographiable en globalité maintenant. Les autres villes ont disparues à moins de changer d'angle à chaque fois. Seule Gardaïa fait figure de carte postale. je parle d'un point de vue global bien entendu. C'était inévitable ! La ville n'est plus une pentapole, car de nouvelles villes se sont gréffées et la route à été retracée.
Nota : tranquilité assurée à Ghardaïa où les voitures peuvent dormir dehors (attention tout de même).
3-4 jours suffisent largement, comme dit.
@+++++++
Faux, Ghardaïa guide obligatoire sinon on n'ira même pas jusqu'à la place de l'ancien marché (non fonctionnel).
Les rues jusqu'au marché et de sortie vers la palmeraie ainsi que la rue continuante étant libres : c'est pas ghardaïa, même si cela en fait partie !
Pour monter à la vielle ville il y a une pancarte en Français et en Anglais ! Elle existait en 85 et n'a pas changé. Accompagné = montée jusqu'au cimetière par différentes ruelles et visite de l'Ecole Coranique donc traversée totale + explications qui mériteraient plus de profondeur et d'actualités (trop enveloppées). Possibilité d'extention vers la palmeraie et le système d'irrigation (longuet). Ghardaïa, ce n'est pas qu'une vue rétrécie de la place du marché et des rues environnantes sauf une tronquée par le panneau... Essayez ?
Guide officiel ou pas, il faut être accompagné !... pour aller où l'on veut.
Par contre, Beni Isguen est possible à certaines heures. Mais à quoi bon car on ne voit rien et l'on est vu.
Les résidences traditionnelles relatées dans l'ancien Guide Bleu et du Routard aussi sont exclusivement dans Beni Isguen ville et les autres de la pentapole, pas dans la palmeraie qui ne se prête pas à ce genre d'habitat (là où l'espace manque, l'excès ne devient que caricatural). Mais piscine (bassin bétonné), proposée parfois.
Mélika-Bou Noura = libres.
Et Berriane c'est plus compliqué.
El Atteuf : libre aux extérieurs proches, visite de la mosquée Sidi Brahim libre. Mais essayez de monter seul dans la vieille ville ??? plus qu'ailleurs !
Au fait, seule Ghardaïa est photographiable en globalité maintenant. Les autres villes ont disparues à moins de changer d'angle à chaque fois. Seule Gardaïa fait figure de carte postale. je parle d'un point de vue global bien entendu. C'était inévitable ! La ville n'est plus une pentapole, car de nouvelles villes se sont gréffées et la route à été retracée.
Nota : tranquilité assurée à Ghardaïa où les voitures peuvent dormir dehors (attention tout de même).
3-4 jours suffisent largement, comme dit.
@+++++++
Rouler Jeunesse
Je tiens quand même à apporter quelques précisions concerant Ghardaia et les environs...
Me trouvant une grande partie de l'année dans cette région où je vais résider prochainement à plein temps..., je suis en mesure de vous informer qu'à Beni Isguen, on ne visite la ville qu'avec un guide de l'Office ou avec des amis mozabites de Beni ! Il s'agit d'une ville très typique et encore préservée... Une montée vers la Tour permet d'avoir une vue panoramique sur les alentours...
Ghardaia est une ville qui se visite seule, mais avec un guide c'est plus intéressant étant donné la visite approfondie de la ville.
Dans la palmeraie de Beni Isguen, il y a des résidences traditionnelles, très bien meublées et décorées... qui louent des chambres d'hôtes dans des jardins aménagés avec bassin...
LILI
Me trouvant une grande partie de l'année dans cette région où je vais résider prochainement à plein temps..., je suis en mesure de vous informer qu'à Beni Isguen, on ne visite la ville qu'avec un guide de l'Office ou avec des amis mozabites de Beni ! Il s'agit d'une ville très typique et encore préservée... Une montée vers la Tour permet d'avoir une vue panoramique sur les alentours...
Ghardaia est une ville qui se visite seule, mais avec un guide c'est plus intéressant étant donné la visite approfondie de la ville.
Dans la palmeraie de Beni Isguen, il y a des résidences traditionnelles, très bien meublées et décorées... qui louent des chambres d'hôtes dans des jardins aménagés avec bassin...
LILI
Il n'y a personne qui soit née sous une mauvaise étoile, il n'y a que des gens qui ne savent pas lire le ciel. (Dalaï Lama)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
salut comment va ?
mounir d'algerie ;bon alors un hebergement dans une maison traditionnelle dans les envoron de ghardaia c pas facile moi personnelmeent je ne sais pas si c possible par contre c possible de visite et reste dans une maison qui tenu par un ami a mon pere et qui a etais la maison d'un grand architecte (raverau) c une maison musee qui a plusieur sciecle mais bon vous me contacte et on vera ce qu'on peut faire pour vous ...
a tres bien tot
amicalement mounir akam
combaloi@hotmail.com
mounir_akam@yahoo.fr
tel 0021371776417
faite moi juste pense le sujet de votre message quand vous me contacte ok
mirage d'algerie
salut
c vrait que le cadre des maison traditionelle a ghardaia est tres agreable, vous avez deja environ 4 maison d'hote traditionelle .il ya une maison de l'asociation nejma 1 tres belle maison pas beaucoup de chambre 7 ou 8 mais elle est superbe tenue par des frere de la meme famille dans une exploitation agricole en mange tres bien tout est bio.
pour les visite tu peut t'adresser au bureau des guide de ghardaia c dans la place du marcher .
ce qui l vous faut c de prendre 1 taxi il vous aumenera la ou vous voulez.
pour les visite de beni isegue il ya aussi 1 bureau a l'entree je vous recomande "hadji" les visites sonts autoriser apartir de 16h00 donc vous pouvez vous programer la matiner pour la ville ghardaia .
et comme elle vous a dit tassili 3jour c largement sufisant si vous avez du temp projeter de completer votre programe car il ya beacoup de chose a fair a aprtir de ghardaia.
si vous voyez que vous aurez besoint d'info pour continuer votre sejour n'hesiter pas.
tanguet
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We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
A lot of people find it important to stick to their budget when traveling—not to skimp, but to visit as many places as possible since traveling is their hobby.
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!




