Palu et grossesse en voyage entre la Guyane Française et le Brésil
by Désert2sable
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Envie d'un bébé en voyage entre la Guyane française et le Brésil.
Mon médecin m'a prescrit de la Doxycycline mais à lire les contre indications ça fait peur et à vrai dire j'aimerai éviter de prendre des médocs et pouvoir concevoir un bébé en tout tranquilité. A priori aucunes malformation du foetus mais risque de jaunissement des dents de lait du futur bébé.
Est ce qu'a cette période (mi décembre à fin décembre) pourrais-je faire l'impasse d'un traitement antipalu ?
Le trajet ?:
En Guyane : Cayenne- St Laurent du Maroni pour y rester 10 jours (a partir de mi décembre) et de St laurent revenir sur Cayenne pour prendre la direction de Belem avec traversée en bateau (Macapa-Belem) et continuer vers Sao Luis do Maranhao ?
Merci pour ces infos précieuses.😉
Ne demande jamais ton chemin... Tu risquerais de ne pas te perdre.
Bonjour,
Si vous allez coté Brésil, le traitement anti palu est fortement conseillé, plusieurs cas sur St Georges.
Autrement si vous faites St Laurent et Cayenne, vous pouvez vous en passer a conditions de bien vous proteger contre les moustiques.
Pour le Bébé, il serait plus sage d'attendre votre retour et la fin des médicaments. Choisir entre voyage et futurs responsabilités, je ne me poserai meme pas la question.
En tout cas bonne chance pour les deux.
Si vous allez coté Brésil, le traitement anti palu est fortement conseillé, plusieurs cas sur St Georges.
Autrement si vous faites St Laurent et Cayenne, vous pouvez vous en passer a conditions de bien vous proteger contre les moustiques.
Pour le Bébé, il serait plus sage d'attendre votre retour et la fin des médicaments. Choisir entre voyage et futurs responsabilités, je ne me poserai meme pas la question.
En tout cas bonne chance pour les deux.
zaza
je ne sais koi vous dire sinon que je suis partagée comme 973
l'idée d'un bb...c'est tres bien, de voyager aussi
je pense qu'il faut choisir et ne pas prendre de risques inutiles!!!!
vous compreneez bien ce que je veux dire
toutefois combien sommes nousa tomber enceinte parfois au gres d'un voyage?
j'habite cayenne
je suis enceinte
mais je ne batoude pas (plus!)
je n'ai pas de traitement anti pallu
trop de contrainte avec soleil
trop forte doses..;etc
par contre le moustique lui si j'ose dire est dur a cuire
on pshittpshitt la maison
on met des tourbillons
y a des mustiquaires aux fenetre, onse vaporise de produits sur le corps (d'ailleurs est ce bon, ça pour la santé.hum.....)
eh bien ons e fait quand meme piquer
comme dis 973 a st george ouai y a des cas de pallu et de dengue aussi apres comme dit mon voisin infirmier ceux qui mangent bien et ne sont pas faible resistent bien... par contre enceinte............. est ce bon de crapahuter partout? de bouger marcher stresser dormir peu s'enerver bouger encore peut etre couir? je pense sincerement que pour une prmiere grossesse il faut faire attention, s'ecouter le premier trimestre est a fair egaffe pour toutes les femmes je ne suis pas là pour vous dire non, oui, peut ete ke.. non, nous donnons notre point de vue, vous avez vos reves, je sais kil n'est pas tjrs facile de hoisir mais la vie.c'est un choix apres le plus dur parfois....... c'est d'assumer
les dents jaunes sur le sdents de lait d'un bébé c'est vrai kil n'y a rien de gravissime en sois..... mais qu'est ce que c'est moche! et est on sur que cel n'altere pas les dents definitives??? par contr vous ferez peut etre de votre bb un super mega baroudeur..... mais bon, ca on peut le devenir
si vous partez prenez unbon budget boufe car la vie est chere, si ous etes enceinte ca serai bien que vous mangiez correctment c'est au moins le minimum pour un bb en bonne santé
mais sinon une idée: faites le a la fin, pour bien le finir ce voyage, non???? ou a la maison avec tous ces souvenir?? une belle facon de clore un voyage est d'en garder une trace memorable quoi de plus beau qu'un bébé????
comme dis 973 a st george ouai y a des cas de pallu et de dengue aussi apres comme dit mon voisin infirmier ceux qui mangent bien et ne sont pas faible resistent bien... par contre enceinte............. est ce bon de crapahuter partout? de bouger marcher stresser dormir peu s'enerver bouger encore peut etre couir? je pense sincerement que pour une prmiere grossesse il faut faire attention, s'ecouter le premier trimestre est a fair egaffe pour toutes les femmes je ne suis pas là pour vous dire non, oui, peut ete ke.. non, nous donnons notre point de vue, vous avez vos reves, je sais kil n'est pas tjrs facile de hoisir mais la vie.c'est un choix apres le plus dur parfois....... c'est d'assumer
les dents jaunes sur le sdents de lait d'un bébé c'est vrai kil n'y a rien de gravissime en sois..... mais qu'est ce que c'est moche! et est on sur que cel n'altere pas les dents definitives??? par contr vous ferez peut etre de votre bb un super mega baroudeur..... mais bon, ca on peut le devenir
si vous partez prenez unbon budget boufe car la vie est chere, si ous etes enceinte ca serai bien que vous mangiez correctment c'est au moins le minimum pour un bb en bonne santé
mais sinon une idée: faites le a la fin, pour bien le finir ce voyage, non???? ou a la maison avec tous ces souvenir?? une belle facon de clore un voyage est d'en garder une trace memorable quoi de plus beau qu'un bébé????
Merci à tous de m'avoir éclairé sur la question.
Rien d'évident quand on est pas des adeptes des médocs de se faire à l'idée de prendre ces trucs qui détraquent pas mal l'organisme...même si nous "habitants du premier monde" nous pouvons nous offrir le luxe d'un traitement préventif (même si pas efficace à 100 %).
Et pour répondre à Frakass, je demandais un conseil et pas un jugement, d'ailleurs il aurait été plus irresponsable de ne pas se poser la question plutôt que de la poser dans un forum ou chacun est libre de faire partager ou non son expérience. 😉
Après tous les conseils reçus des uns et des autres, il est évident que nous n'avalerons pas de Doxycycline mais plutôt de la Malarone en espérant qu'il n'y ai pas trop de réaction avec le soleil. Quant au Bébé, nous agirons en tant qu'adultes responsables et conscients et attendrons le moment opportun...et puis on ne peut pas décider de tout non plus, il faut bien que la vie nous réserve des surprises.
Maroussiah, je te souhaite plein de bonnes choses en compagnie de ce petit bout qui grandit en toi.
Rien d'évident quand on est pas des adeptes des médocs de se faire à l'idée de prendre ces trucs qui détraquent pas mal l'organisme...même si nous "habitants du premier monde" nous pouvons nous offrir le luxe d'un traitement préventif (même si pas efficace à 100 %).
Et pour répondre à Frakass, je demandais un conseil et pas un jugement, d'ailleurs il aurait été plus irresponsable de ne pas se poser la question plutôt que de la poser dans un forum ou chacun est libre de faire partager ou non son expérience. 😉
Après tous les conseils reçus des uns et des autres, il est évident que nous n'avalerons pas de Doxycycline mais plutôt de la Malarone en espérant qu'il n'y ai pas trop de réaction avec le soleil. Quant au Bébé, nous agirons en tant qu'adultes responsables et conscients et attendrons le moment opportun...et puis on ne peut pas décider de tout non plus, il faut bien que la vie nous réserve des surprises.
Maroussiah, je te souhaite plein de bonnes choses en compagnie de ce petit bout qui grandit en toi.
Ne demande jamais ton chemin... Tu risquerais de ne pas te perdre.
😊oui la vie reserve des surprises ma belle! don fais kan meme bien attention, t puis lachez vous sur la fin du voyagehihihi
Bonjour désert2sable,
Tu ne dis pas combien de temps doit durer ton voyage. Mais si tu décides de prendre de la Malarone, on ne peut le faire que pendant quelques mois (trois, je crois). En ce qui concerne la doxy, mon compagnon, mes enfants et moi en avons pris pendant treize mois sans problème. Nous vivions en Sierra Leone. Pour éviter la photosensibilité, nous avons suivi les conseils de l'institut Pasteur, à savoir prendre la doxy le soir, à la nuit tombée. Il m'a été dit sur ce forum que cela ne servait à rien. En tout cas, aucun de nous n'a eu d'allergie, de problème de peau... ou de crise de palu ! Bon voyage et bonne future grossesse
Flo
Tu ne dis pas combien de temps doit durer ton voyage. Mais si tu décides de prendre de la Malarone, on ne peut le faire que pendant quelques mois (trois, je crois). En ce qui concerne la doxy, mon compagnon, mes enfants et moi en avons pris pendant treize mois sans problème. Nous vivions en Sierra Leone. Pour éviter la photosensibilité, nous avons suivi les conseils de l'institut Pasteur, à savoir prendre la doxy le soir, à la nuit tombée. Il m'a été dit sur ce forum que cela ne servait à rien. En tout cas, aucun de nous n'a eu d'allergie, de problème de peau... ou de crise de palu ! Bon voyage et bonne future grossesse
Flo
Vivre autour du monde plutôt que vouloir à tout prix en faire le tour...
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la durée du séjour est de au moins 10 jours en Guyanne (St Laurent et Cayenne) puis direction le Brésil (arrivée le 13 déc). On pensait passer par St George pour rejoindre Belem y rester jusqu'à début janvier et ensuite prendre 1 mois pour aller jusqu'à Natal ou nous comptons séjourner plus d'une semaine (j'ai un bout de ma vie là bas ! 6 ans d'aller-retour ça créer des liens forts...). Donc nous allons passer au maximum 15 jours en zone à risque, donc si mes sources sont bonnes, la Malarone on doit continuer le traitement 1 semaine et non 4 (pour la Doxy) après avoir quitté la zone à risque. ça nous convient mieux !
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Bonjour,
C'est vrai que pour une courte durée, la Malarone est mieux appropriée. On la prend en effet moins longtemps que la doxy après avoir quitté la zone à risques. Bon voyage
Flo
C'est vrai que pour une courte durée, la Malarone est mieux appropriée. On la prend en effet moins longtemps que la doxy après avoir quitté la zone à risques. Bon voyage
Flo
Vivre autour du monde plutôt que vouloir à tout prix en faire le tour...
http://familleautourdumonde.free.fr
http://www.amotsdelies.com/blog
Pour infos je t'écris un peu tard car je ne vois le message que maintenant. Une très proche amie à moi est tombée enceinte sous cachet palu en asie. Elle a su qu'elle l'était en rentrant soit donc environ 1 mois après. Après écho, le bb était malformé. Cela se voyait dès le départ. Le médecin lui a dit dès le départ que là le mieux était de ne pas donner suite. J'ai du moi-même l'accompagner à l'hopital pour qu'elle le fasse.... (une horreur). Elle s'est retrouvée dans l'obligation d'avorter alors que jamais elle n'aurait fait ça même si elle n'avait pas prévu cette grossesse. Bref... Attends donc de rentrer, les médicaments anti-palu sont redoutables. Moi même ainsi que mon ami nous avons eu suite à de nbreuses prises de médicament anti-palu des séquelles à vie. A l'époque nous prenions du Lariam. Nous avons été en observation pdt 5 ans chez un médecin qui a du nous aider à réparer les conséquences de ce traitement... Sinon si tu restes plusieurs mois encore là-bas et que tu veux asbolument tomber enceinte sur place, je ne saurais que trop te conseiller avant tout déjà d'arrêter ton traitement et de te protéger un max avec habits etc..., de prendre des dispositions pour éviter de t'exposer le soir à l'heure ou l'anophèle pique (tombée de la nuit au lever du jour), la nuit de voir s'il n'y a pas d'ouverture sur tes fenêtres et de te protéger avec moustiquaire, ..... Quand on voyage dans des zones Palu, ne pas oublier de bien vérifier qu'il est nécessaire de prendre le traitement dans la zone où l'on est (nous nous rendons tjs au dispensaire du lieu pour vérifier car parfois ce que dit le médecin français et ce qu'on trouve sur place n'est pas la même chose), de tjs enmener le traitement en cas de besoin mais si les médecins sur place affirment qu'il n'y a pas le palu et pas non plus sur la suite du voyage prévu et bien dans ce cas arrêter le traitement. Vous l'aurez compris ce que je veux dire c'est que le palu est qq chose de très grave donc il faut bien sûr faire très attention, mais dans le même temps il ne faut pas non plus prendre ce type de traitement trop facilement. Il y a une amie à moi qui suite à du Lariam a fait un arrêt cardiaque et a attéri à l'hopital.... Maintenant n'oublions pas que le palu est la 1ère maladie au monde... Bonne fin de voyage.
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What do you think of these last two? How do they compare in terms of value for money against the bigger companies?
Thanks in advance, everyone.
So, I’m looking for the best compromise for a 2-month health insurance plan. I’ve read the discussions on this topic, but the most recent one is from last year, and I’d love your take on the current situation. I’m familiar with the usual options like Europ Assistance and AXA, but I’ve just discovered Chapka and Heymondo (the latter seems interesting in terms of both price and coverage).
What do you think of these last two? How do they compare in terms of value for money against the bigger companies?
Thanks in advance, everyone.
Hi,
We’ve planned a 3-week trip to Bali this summer with our 7-year-old daughter. The itinerary includes Sanur, Nusa Lembongan, Sidemen, Amed, and Ubud. The more time passes, the more we read about people getting sick—some with mild to severe traveler’s diarrhea, and many ending up in the hospital. We, as parents, have been through it in Egypt with pretty bad cases, but we’d really like to avoid that for our daughter. Even though there’s no zero risk, and we’ll be careful, can any of you reassure me? Not everyone got sick, right? I’d love to hear positive feedback from parents, but not just them 😊. Thanks in advance!
Hi there...
I’m traveling with a friend for a month in November.
We booked our round-trip tickets from Paris to Phnom Penh, and yes, I know—it was a mistake. We should’ve flown out of Laos, but here we are.
But is it doable to backpack through both countries in a relaxed way?
I’ve seen that the transport takes a while...
Thanks so much for your replies.
Hi there,
I’ve started looking into getting dental implants, possibly in Costa Rica or Mexico.
Do you have any clinics to recommend or ones I should avoid?
For the next steps, I need to choose between Cuba Medika or Medigo—these are agencies that help with medical procedures. Do you have any info on either of them?
Thanks so much for your help!
Thanks so much for your help!
Hi everyone, a question for those who’ve been lucky enough to visit Raja Ampat—should you consider preventive malaria treatment given its proximity to Papua? And how was the food hygiene situation?
Thanks for your feedback! !
Hi there.
I’d like to know if all medications need to be declared at Uzbek customs.
E.g., antidepressants?
Thanks for your reply
For several years now, increased aggression has been observed in Cape fur seals.
At least 70 unprovoked attacks on humans.
It was recently confirmed that this is due to rabies.
The suspected origin is contamination in Namibia by jackals.
The contagion seems to be spreading.
Preventive vaccination (of the animals) is being considered.
Just a reminder:
Rabies affects all mammals.
Once symptoms appear—sometimes weeks or even months later—death is inevitable.
It’s the bite that transmits the disease.
There are so-called "furious" forms with aggression, but also forms without aggression.
In case of a bite, in addition to standard wound care, tetanus prevention… rabies prevention is essential.
Stay careful out there…
Seeing seals from a boat along the coast isn’t rare in these parts…
I need 2 dental implants and I'd like to get them done abroad (it's a question of price).
Thanks for helping me with my search (Turkey, Spain, Romania???)
Can you tell me if you're satisfied with the services provided by Dentist Miguel at Club Amigo in Holguin? I'd like to go there in mid-December. Is it worth the trip to get dental prosthetics done?
Thanks for getting back to me... Michelle from Quebec
Hello,
I’m looking for a dentist who can do a full lower-arch implant with a complete prosthesis. I’m in Quebec and available to travel to Cuba. Need full contact details. Thanks everyone!
Hi there,
My current plan is to get my teeth treated in Cuba, especially for dental implants. Has anyone here had experience and could refer me to a good, affordable dentist? I’d really appreciate it if you could give me an idea of the price for one implant, since I need at least 6 done. Thanks so much!
My current plan is to get my teeth treated in Cuba, especially for dental implants. Has anyone here had experience and could refer me to a good, affordable dentist? I’d really appreciate it if you could give me an idea of the price for one implant, since I need at least 6 done. Thanks so much!